But would pretend to not know what a storm trooper is. Otherwise she might accidentally name drop Kit Fisto.
Thag Simmons
Do you think she was a “ship a Jedi with a Clone Trooper” person or was she writing Jedi/Jedi stuff.
Proxiehunter
Kit Fisto self insert. Just not sure if the self insert was a Jedi, a clone trooper, or a civilian.
Thag Simmons
I had assumed self-insert, there’s not really any obvious characters to ship him with in-canon unless you want to do enemies to lovers with the evil Sharkman. I kind of feel like she’d have gone for a Jedi? I don’t think she’d have been the biggest fan of the Clones honestly.
zee
Fisto x Aayla is a ship I’ve seen a lot. I’m not against it
DrunkenNordmann
I think it was a thing in Legends?
Aura
There absolutely is an obvious character to ship him with, and it is Aayla Secura. They were as close to a thing as it was possible for Jedi to be in old canon.
True Survivor
Ok this is something that has been bothering me for a long time. The jedi aren’t allowed romantic entanglement and yet two of the most handsome Jedi (one of which keeps finding excuses to take his shirt off) are named Kit Fisto and Mace Windu. Come on!
I mean is there a Dysa Loan or Ace Nonpoon to balance them out or were all those jedi kicked out when Mace and Fisto framed them when they got caught sneaking girls into the temple.
Thag Simmons
My understanding was that Jedi are allowed to fuck but not to get attached.
But even if it’s not allowed, it probably still gets broken. Institutionally enforced Vows of Celibacy get broken, all the time.
BBCC
According to George Lucas, Jedi are not required to be celibate, no. The problem is attachment (which, because most of us aren’t Methodist-Buddhists like he is in the States, he defines not as ‘liking this person and/or thing’ but ‘being so unwilling to let this person and/or thing go that we’re willing to massacre CHILDREN to keep them from dying and/or because we’re angry they died’).
Which, ah, *glances at Anakin ‘two genocides under his belt before he’s even 25’ Skywalker* ….yeah.
eh, whatever
So, they are required to be celibate ( = unmarried) – but not chaste.
Psychie
According to google Celibacy is refraining from marriage AND sexual relations. Meanwhile Chastity allows for sexual relations within marriage. Neither seem applicable if marriage is off the table but sex isn’t.
Queezle
He did a pretty bad job of portraying that in the sequels.
Or maybe the Jedi were just real bad at teaching Anakin how to regulate his Emotions.
Koname
He never did a great job of showing it in the movies, but there were many examples in canon and legends of Jedi that viewed that teaching to wildly different degrees. Ki Adi Mundi for example had wives and children and had 0 emotional attachment to any of them and expected that of others. Others like Plo Koon and Qui Gon felt that caring for others was extremely important but to not forget the duty of a jedi.
danimagoo
But that was the whole point with Anakin. The Jedi Council initially said he was too old to begin training, and too emotional. And then Qui-Gon basically said, screw you, I’m training him anyway. And then he proved to be too emotional to be a Jedi and turned to the darkside, thus proving the initial assessment.
JBento
So, what I’m hearing is that Ki Adi Mundi is a parent fit for Dumbing of Age. Wait, is Ki Adi Mundi Señor Billingsworth? Is that why Jennifer is into Star Wars?
BBCC
Nah, Ki-Adi Mundi cared very much about his wives and children and was heartbroken when he died. He just didn’t go out and commit genocide because he was angry about it. The latter is attachment in Star Wars terms. It’s not a synonym for love, like, care about, etc.
That was the problem with Anakin. He wasn’t willing to let anybody go. He felt he should be able to have it all. And when he lost one of “his” people, he massacred an entire village down to the last child. And when he was afraid he’d lose someone else, he….committed another genocide. He knew better (“I’m not the Jedi I should be”) but he wanted it all.
sultryglebe
I have only read this second-hand, but I thought Kit Fisto had a thing with Aayla Secura.
BBCC
He did in the Legends continuity, before Disney bought it. They decided to end it because they felt their service to the Jedi Order was more important to them than having a romantic relationship.
I wonder if Jennifer plays SWTOR. Or if Billie played it.
With the sliding timeline, the game came out when they were under 10 years old.
And as the years pass, knowing who kit fisto is becomes nerdier and nerdier because the last time he was relevant to a casual Star Wars fan was in…
2014. 9 years ago.
Needfuldoer
No, because video games are for nerds and she’s not a nerd.
I like to think that storm troopers are so inaccurate because the force is messing with them to shield the heroes. Also apparently according to Captain Rex Storm Trooper helmets provide truly terrible vision.
In a New Hope at least the Imperial forces have orders to bring their targets in alive, and the only fights we see where they’re cleared to go for the kill are massacres. They perform pretty decently in ESB from what I remember too. It’s really only ROTJ that’s an utter embarrassment for them
Mano308gts
In actuality, even in RotJ they weren’t as bad as the reputation. The Storm Trooper accuracy trope is hot garbage- based on shots fired vs shots hit on-screen, the storm troopers were crack shots compared to normal real-life soldiers.
Mr D
If you’ve played the old star wars FPS games with Kyle Katarn on them, the stormtrooper rifle has the worst shoot spread I’ve seen in any game. It is a fucking cone of fire, not a single shot goes where you want.
Azhrei Vep
Mando season 1 shows their sidearms as being pretty hot garbage too.
Real-life soldiers were only expected to hit a man-sized target one in 20 shots. Because suppressive fire in the general direction of the enemy to keep them from being able to take aim at you is a thing.
The booster knows where they are at all times. They knows this because they know where they aren’t. By subtracting where they are from where they aren’t, or where they aren’t from where they are (whichever’s greater) they obtain a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive Booster from positions where they are to where they aren’t. And arriving to a position where they aren’t where they now are.
Consequently, the position where they are is now the position where they weren’t. And it follows that the position where they were, is now the position they aren’t.
I can’t think of a single time when Jennifer’s had an intuitive understanding of another person. Hell, I don’t think she has an intuitive understanding of the person she is, presumably, having intimate relations with.
She certainly has a very strong intuitive understanding of who she wants that person to be. So strong it seems like she doesn’t want to bother looking at the signs that might confirm or contradict that intuition.
Well in Jennifer’s defense knowing yourself is frequently the most difficult thing. Unless you take the time to really assess things properly you are perpetually hidden in your own blind spot.
What are you talking about?
Jennifer knew Sal was Amazi-girl right away.
And she helped Walky get with Dorothy.
She was spot on with how well Ruth and Daisy are hitting it off.
And she’s been guiding Raidah to be more assertive and to start focusing on social networking.
Jennifer can only navigate those social situations so easily due to her instinctive understanding of human nature and her Sherlockian (if that’s not a word, it is now) powers of reading people.
I think she has a completely average level of social awareness, but because she’s generally surrounded by – well, the rest of the cast, she has misinterpreted this as her being some kind of social savant.
If you’ve lived your entire life on a flat plain, a good-sized hill is a mountain.
The one time I can think of her having an understanding is when she called out Dorothy for acting like Joyce’s mom but other than that yeah, not very “intuitive”
maybe she’s also just stuck in the past and thought of more times where she’s ‘helped’ others in high school and such even tho within her own ‘cheerleader’ clique i don’t think anyone’s problems would be that ‘deep/in need of understanding’ other than the ‘sneak into the abortion center’ exacple
You never know when you need to Kill Bill. (Does that make sense I have never seen that movie?)
cbwroses
The Kill Bill movies are great (there’s 2).
I’d recommend you watch them.
Oh, and in that instance, they definitely knew when they needed to kill Bill.
Well, mostly knew when.
188 thoughts on “Nerve”
Ana Chronistic
So, Booster = homing missiles with hair trigger, Jennifer = Stormtrooper
Doctor_Who
At least Jennifer would appreciate being a Star Wars reference.
Proxiehunter
But would pretend to not know what a storm trooper is. Otherwise she might accidentally name drop Kit Fisto.
Thag Simmons
Do you think she was a “ship a Jedi with a Clone Trooper” person or was she writing Jedi/Jedi stuff.
Proxiehunter
Kit Fisto self insert. Just not sure if the self insert was a Jedi, a clone trooper, or a civilian.
Thag Simmons
I had assumed self-insert, there’s not really any obvious characters to ship him with in-canon unless you want to do enemies to lovers with the evil Sharkman. I kind of feel like she’d have gone for a Jedi? I don’t think she’d have been the biggest fan of the Clones honestly.
zee
Fisto x Aayla is a ship I’ve seen a lot. I’m not against it
DrunkenNordmann
I think it was a thing in Legends?
Aura
There absolutely is an obvious character to ship him with, and it is Aayla Secura. They were as close to a thing as it was possible for Jedi to be in old canon.
True Survivor
Ok this is something that has been bothering me for a long time. The jedi aren’t allowed romantic entanglement and yet two of the most handsome Jedi (one of which keeps finding excuses to take his shirt off) are named Kit Fisto and Mace Windu. Come on!
I mean is there a Dysa Loan or Ace Nonpoon to balance them out or were all those jedi kicked out when Mace and Fisto framed them when they got caught sneaking girls into the temple.
Thag Simmons
My understanding was that Jedi are allowed to fuck but not to get attached.
But even if it’s not allowed, it probably still gets broken. Institutionally enforced Vows of Celibacy get broken, all the time.
BBCC
According to George Lucas, Jedi are not required to be celibate, no. The problem is attachment (which, because most of us aren’t Methodist-Buddhists like he is in the States, he defines not as ‘liking this person and/or thing’ but ‘being so unwilling to let this person and/or thing go that we’re willing to massacre CHILDREN to keep them from dying and/or because we’re angry they died’).
Which, ah, *glances at Anakin ‘two genocides under his belt before he’s even 25’ Skywalker* ….yeah.
eh, whatever
So, they are required to be celibate ( = unmarried) – but not chaste.
Psychie
According to google Celibacy is refraining from marriage AND sexual relations. Meanwhile Chastity allows for sexual relations within marriage. Neither seem applicable if marriage is off the table but sex isn’t.
Queezle
He did a pretty bad job of portraying that in the sequels.
Or maybe the Jedi were just real bad at teaching Anakin how to regulate his Emotions.
Koname
He never did a great job of showing it in the movies, but there were many examples in canon and legends of Jedi that viewed that teaching to wildly different degrees. Ki Adi Mundi for example had wives and children and had 0 emotional attachment to any of them and expected that of others. Others like Plo Koon and Qui Gon felt that caring for others was extremely important but to not forget the duty of a jedi.
danimagoo
But that was the whole point with Anakin. The Jedi Council initially said he was too old to begin training, and too emotional. And then Qui-Gon basically said, screw you, I’m training him anyway. And then he proved to be too emotional to be a Jedi and turned to the darkside, thus proving the initial assessment.
JBento
So, what I’m hearing is that Ki Adi Mundi is a parent fit for Dumbing of Age. Wait, is Ki Adi Mundi Señor Billingsworth? Is that why Jennifer is into Star Wars?
BBCC
Nah, Ki-Adi Mundi cared very much about his wives and children and was heartbroken when he died. He just didn’t go out and commit genocide because he was angry about it. The latter is attachment in Star Wars terms. It’s not a synonym for love, like, care about, etc.
That was the problem with Anakin. He wasn’t willing to let anybody go. He felt he should be able to have it all. And when he lost one of “his” people, he massacred an entire village down to the last child. And when he was afraid he’d lose someone else, he….committed another genocide. He knew better (“I’m not the Jedi I should be”) but he wanted it all.
sultryglebe
I have only read this second-hand, but I thought Kit Fisto had a thing with Aayla Secura.
BBCC
He did in the Legends continuity, before Disney bought it. They decided to end it because they felt their service to the Jedi Order was more important to them than having a romantic relationship.
ValdVin
Unlike Jennifer i never knew what Wookieepedia was before reading it here.
My secret shame? I am very low on the distribution curve of proper nerd knowledge for a Willis reader.
Mr D
I wonder if Jennifer plays SWTOR. Or if Billie played it.
With the sliding timeline, the game came out when they were under 10 years old.
And as the years pass, knowing who kit fisto is becomes nerdier and nerdier because the last time he was relevant to a casual Star Wars fan was in…
2014. 9 years ago.
Needfuldoer
No, because video games are for nerds and she’s not a nerd.
/s
Stephen Nedland
Not in public; only nerds understand nerd things.
True Survivor
I like to think that storm troopers are so inaccurate because the force is messing with them to shield the heroes. Also apparently according to Captain Rex Storm Trooper helmets provide truly terrible vision.
Thag Simmons
In a New Hope at least the Imperial forces have orders to bring their targets in alive, and the only fights we see where they’re cleared to go for the kill are massacres. They perform pretty decently in ESB from what I remember too. It’s really only ROTJ that’s an utter embarrassment for them
Mano308gts
In actuality, even in RotJ they weren’t as bad as the reputation. The Storm Trooper accuracy trope is hot garbage- based on shots fired vs shots hit on-screen, the storm troopers were crack shots compared to normal real-life soldiers.
Mr D
If you’ve played the old star wars FPS games with Kyle Katarn on them, the stormtrooper rifle has the worst shoot spread I’ve seen in any game. It is a fucking cone of fire, not a single shot goes where you want.
Azhrei Vep
Mando season 1 shows their sidearms as being pretty hot garbage too.
Opus the Poet
Real-life soldiers were only expected to hit a man-sized target one in 20 shots. Because suppressive fire in the general direction of the enemy to keep them from being able to take aim at you is a thing.
Yotomoe
The booster knows where they are at all times. They knows this because they know where they aren’t. By subtracting where they are from where they aren’t, or where they aren’t from where they are (whichever’s greater) they obtain a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive Booster from positions where they are to where they aren’t. And arriving to a position where they aren’t where they now are.
Consequently, the position where they are is now the position where they weren’t. And it follows that the position where they were, is now the position they aren’t.
jeffepp
To quote another military source, a training manual: “If we don’t know what we’re doing, the enemy sure the Hell won’t.
Clif
Thank you for clearing that up.
Decidedly Orthogonal
Ruth, that was a better take down than during orientation!
Clif
That’s what I was thinking. Good to see them flirting again.
DailyBrad
Zing.
DailyBrad
Oh, I am Leslie now, interesting. Haven’t decided if I’ll try and get another gravatar or not.
Clif
Why not?
Thag Simmons
They were always pretty thin on the ground for her but man, Jennifer just can’t get a win these days, huh.
Needfuldoer
Helping Joyce left her with an imbalance; she has to take a few Ls before she’s back to equilibrium.
anonymsly
Felt like a sweet compliment for a couple seconds there, huh Jennifer?
True Survivor
She doesn’t get to have nice things. That’s why her romantic partners have included an abusive RA and a mobster.
Nono
And Alice.
DailyBrad
Though I get the feeling Alice put more weight into it than Billie did, at the time certainly. I kinda wish sometimes Alice would pop up again.
Yotomoe
I can’t think of a single time when Jennifer’s had an intuitive understanding of another person. Hell, I don’t think she has an intuitive understanding of the person she is, presumably, having intimate relations with.
TulipKitten
She couldn’t figure out Amber was Amazi-Girl after she was told this information straight up.
Proxiehunter
I’m not sure Jennifer has an intuitive understanding of Jennifer.
MM
Jennifer is probably the person Jennifer has the least intuitive understanding of.
Yotomoe
There’s a very real chance they’ve never even met.
Amelie Wikström
She certainly has a very strong intuitive understanding of who she wants that person to be. So strong it seems like she doesn’t want to bother looking at the signs that might confirm or contradict that intuition.
Jamie
Conviction isn’t the same as understanding.
Just an Armadillo
Well in Jennifer’s defense knowing yourself is frequently the most difficult thing. Unless you take the time to really assess things properly you are perpetually hidden in your own blind spot.
Yumi
A relevant strip: https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/02-this-is-the-way-that-we-love/sitch/
cbwroses
What are you talking about?
Jennifer knew Sal was Amazi-girl right away.
And she helped Walky get with Dorothy.
She was spot on with how well Ruth and Daisy are hitting it off.
And she’s been guiding Raidah to be more assertive and to start focusing on social networking.
Jennifer can only navigate those social situations so easily due to her instinctive understanding of human nature and her Sherlockian (if that’s not a word, it is now) powers of reading people.
vulcanodon
I’ve heard “Holmsian” and “Sherlock Holmsian” so “Sherlockian” must be the final contraction. It could not be more cromulent.
HueSatLight
She did solid B+ work in Don’t Stop Billie-ving. https://www.dumbingofage.com/justthat/
cbwroses
6 months of knowing these people and she only got a B+.
HueSatLight
She aced that strip. Bungled it a little later in the day.
Illjwamh
I think she has a completely average level of social awareness, but because she’s generally surrounded by – well, the rest of the cast, she has misinterpreted this as her being some kind of social savant.
If you’ve lived your entire life on a flat plain, a good-sized hill is a mountain.
Needfuldoer
*Malaya walks down the hallway, stops in her tracks, backs up, and leans back into the door*
“FAKEY!”
Decidedly Orthogonal
I’m frankly disappointed we haven’t had a good Malaya/Ms. Billingsworth confrontation.
ProtoMan
The one time I can think of her having an understanding is when she called out Dorothy for acting like Joyce’s mom but other than that yeah, not very “intuitive”
Angel
maybe she’s also just stuck in the past and thought of more times where she’s ‘helped’ others in high school and such even tho within her own ‘cheerleader’ clique i don’t think anyone’s problems would be that ‘deep/in need of understanding’ other than the ‘sneak into the abortion center’ exacple
TulipKitten
After how much of an asshole Jennifer has been, this is a very satisfying burn to see.
Taffy
Ruth, put the gun down.
Yumi
Well, see, she heard that Billie’s Got a Gun, and she doesn’t know if Jennifer held onto it, so Ruth needs one just in case.
True Survivor
You never know when you need to Kill Bill. (Does that make sense I have never seen that movie?)
cbwroses
The Kill Bill movies are great (there’s 2).
I’d recommend you watch them.
Oh, and in that instance, they definitely knew when they needed to kill Bill.
Well, mostly knew when.
Proxiehunter
I thought it was Janie who had the gun.
Taffy
You’re both wrong, it was Elmo.
Proxiehunter
Someone gave Elon Musk a gun?