So, considering that Joyce’s homeschooled Sex Ed likely consisted of “Don’t”, she was unable to recognize a vibrator, she’s “a size six”, and her erotic dreams involve tummy wands…do you think she’s currently wondering why Sarah is offering Dorothy chewing gum?
(This wasn’t meant to be a reply, not sure what happened there)
Some Ed
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RassilonTDavros
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Needfuldoer
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I’d wager an even 50/50 on her being alright versus trying to overcompensate and just SEEM alright. On one hand her mother has been dead for longer and Toedad was, well, Toedad, but on the other hand I can’t imagine how rough it must be to lose both parents that young.
Emperor Norton II
What? Becky trying to overcompensate because she’s still incredibly afraid to show any form of vulnerability, because a lifetime habit of building that as your armour doesn’t just magically go away once the main reason you built the armour is gone?
Nahhh, that’s not possible at all.
Reltzik
And we can completely rule out the possibility that she addresses problems with humor and absurdity because that makes them more manageable and lets her actually process them.
… and also that I’m projecting myself onto her with that. Yup, we can definitely rule that out too.
Achallenger
Oh yeah, is it established how old she was when her mom died?
Thag Simmons
Late teens I think.
Needfuldoer
IIRC it was last spring, just under a year ago DoA time.
Condoms always come in strips like that. Unless you buy singles from the bathroom vending machine or whatever.
I do wonder why Sarah carries ALL OF THEM around.
Wizard
Considering that Sarah seems to be in a committed relationship with her vibe, I’m wondering why she is carrying any around. Just in case of this situation?
Reltzik
She rooms with Joyce, and there’s a significant chance that Joyce is just going to snap one day and want to go out and blow a dozen dicks in one night.
But until then, there are so many hilarious opportunities to wave them in Joyce’s face and freak her out to pass up.
More seriously, it’s not that Sarah wants abstinence, so much as abstinence is the price she willingly pays for distancing herself from society. I’m sure that if she encountered an objectifiably hunky guy who was completely cool with no-strings attached one-night stand without also being a creepazoid looking for a no-strings one-night stand with her, she’d be prepared multiple condoms.
… er, I mean, it’s just on the general principle. Carry them even if you don’t plan on using them, because sometimes unplanned opportunities arise and need wrappers. She doesn’t plan to and definitely doesn’t fantasize using them all quick succession. Nope. Definitely not.
Roborat
Okay, I can buy your argument, and I can see having a supply in her room. However, I don’t understand why she would be carrying them around to her lectures, does she think an spontaneous orgy is going to happen in class? Oh, I know, she has watched too much anime and expects some guy to confess to her behind the gym, and everyone knows if you don’t outright reject them, you are supposed to have sex right then and there.
Reltzik
Oh, that. No, she just has them in her purse, and like pretty much everyone with a purse, she doesn’t customize her purse’s contents specifically for every trip she takes out of the dorm.
Sarah has sex. Not with anybody we’ve seen during the first semester, but we skipped a whole three months. Even if she didn’t, she carries some just in case.
milu
i don’t know, that sounded like it could be describing an extended, creative masturbatory life experience
thejeff
She may have been more social and sexually active back in high school before the full pressure of keeping the scholarship and then the Dana situation and resulting harassment happened.
It would seem odd if she was getting laid offscreen without it becoming a plot point. Something could have happened during the timeskip, but the longer we go without it coming up, the less likely that is I think.
BarerMender
Hope springs eternal.
HeatherJean
>I do wonder why Sarah carries ALL OF THEM around.
Possibly because she hopes that will convince everybody that she’s having tons of sex, and that will keep them from trying to match her up with someone.
Not likely, but an alternative explanation as to why she’s be carrying them around.
It’s just that I never saw more than three or four to a strip, and then only when purchased in multipacks of 12 or 24. Even the video you linked to, which showed the finished and rolled condoms being sealed into their individual packets as one lone stripe, mentioned that the strips were then cut to a specific number of packets suitable to the desired package.
I can only assume that a long, continuous strip would be part of a special package intended for places of extensive distribution such as public health facilities or high-use environments such as brothels.
Peter Parker doesn’t typically live that sensational a day to day life. Minus the spider powers any sufficiently trained person with a mask can get their ass kicked for the greater good while struggling to hold down a job, a relationship, and a studio apartment. In fact it might be better cause at least you’d get to pal around with other do gooder freaks.
Ferret
Peter Parker also builds himself an array of gadgets that complement his powers in most iterations, including his own webshooters. Getting bankrolled by Stark Industries for that stuff is an MCU thing.
Z
A RECENT mcu thing. Originally he was shown creating his own stuff.
Reltzik
He literally has a sixth sense as a superpower. If that’s not sense-ational, I don’t know what is.
nooooo
Ross with his flaws was still her father. I see mistakes, not prolonged, intentional abuse; therefore losing her last parent undoubtedly is bad for Becky’s emotional well being.
Wagstaff
He threatened her and her girlfriend with a shotgun! If that’s not abuse, then does abuse even exist?
Spencer
They probably mean before that, before Ross made it abundantly clear he valued his authority over Becky and his imagined vision of a perfect family over the daughter he actually had.
If Toedad was just the shittiest human being imaginable from birth to timely enough death it probably wouldn’t have been that big a deal.
Wagstaff
Does a disease cease to exist before its discovery?
Spencer
Use an analogy that’s appropriate to the situation.
Wagstaff
I was referring to abuse, not homosexuality.
Spencer
I’m aware, I’m saying that we’ve seen like two flashbacks to Becky’s homelife involving her dad. One was him being kind of a weird fundie at a theme park but not particularly malicious, the other was him collapsed in his chair that his wife was dead.
Like, Toedad’s actions on campus don’t travel back in time and make him always an abusive asshole. He’s wrong because of the things he did now, when his daughter was in front of him and he decided that his authority and his dogmatic faith mattered more than her. The closest thing to “Toedad was always an abuser” we can say here is that his actions on campus showed that he valued the perfect suburban home life for Jesus and himself he thought he had as opposed to the one where his wife was suffering from severe mental problems and his daughter is gay.
thejeff
We haven’t seen much in the way of flashbacks, but we’ve seen hints from Becky.
We know the whole religion aspect went far beyond “valued the perfect suburban home life for Jesus and himself”. We know he was forcing Becky into that mold – even beyond her being gay, she was allowed no aspirations beyond getting married and raising kids.
We knew Becky has developed all sorts of emotional armor and tricks to cope with her home life. There was a comment, for example, about “accidentally” getting gum in her hair so she could get it cut shorter – then tie that to Ross’s speech during the kidnapping about “your hair is your womanhood”.
I’d agree it’s not proven, but it’s also not clear that he was fine until he showed up on campus with the gun. Abusers are often subtle, especially when out in public, so one flashback to a theme park trip doesn’t prove much.
Spencer
It probably wouldn’t have been that big a deal that he died, I mean.
Reltzik
I mean…. TECHNICALLY you can set the threshold for what counts as abuse as worse than that, and still not reach the bottom of the barrel.
You’re completely right but when you phrase it like that I have to accept the challenge.
Jhon
A squirrel rifle is not a shotgun.
(Every time someone calls a rifle a shotgun, the NRA kills a kitten.)
woobie, kidnapping someone at gunpoint to send them to conversion “therapy” (torture) is not a “mistake”, that’s the horrifying logical endpoint of an abusive and bigoted mindset
What the fuck is wrong with you
Wagstaff
Well put, Fart Captor.
Chris Phoenix
On the one hand, what Toedad did was far beyond “mistakes.”
On the other hand, Joyce didn’t realize how toxic Carol was until she got away from home. Becky, having grown up in a cult, might have thought her dad was normal and loving until … hmm… sometime between when her mom killed herself and her dad kidnapped her with a shotgun. Which is actually pretty late in her young life, and she might easily miss the dad she thought she grew up with, even in hindsight.
Wagstaff
It had been said that blood is thicker than water. For people who’ve enjoyed healthy family relationships, it can be deeply unsettling to hear values like that being questioned.
However, for people who have endured abusive relationships in their families, blood is only messier than water.
Miri
I love my parents. I know they love me and would do anything they can to support me.
I also know that yelling at your kid til they’re so upset they vomit then being annoyed with them for overreacting is not exactly stellar parenting and my dad did this to me a few times… My brother, who does not go to pieces when he’s yelled at, tried to walk away from an argument to his room and Dad followed him so he jumped out of his bedroom window (UK first floor; the one above the ground floor) once. When they got into an argument when Dad was teaching him to drive, my brother got out of the car and threatened to play Chicken with oncoming traffic if Dad didn’t go away and leave him alone.
In retrospect, I kinda wish I’d had my brother’s boundary-setting abilities…
Delicious Taffy
Damn, your brother plays hardball.
JBento
That’s not what “blood is thicker than water” means. It’s the shortened version of an originally-Jewish saying “the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb”, and it literally means the opposite of what people are using it for these days, that the bonds you CHOOSE to form are more important than any resulting from the circumstances of birth.
milu
oh wow, didn’t know that! thanks!
that said, meanings drift through time for many reasons, so i would argue that what an expression means is determined (primarily) by how people use it, not (so much) by its etymology.
Wagstaff
Yeah, I guess phrases and words in the English language inevitably get altered and tortured by their users for generations.
For instance, the “hammer and anvil” metaphor is often used to imply that the anvil gets the worse of it, although in reality it is always the anvil that breaks the hammer.
milu
please do go ahead and rant about how the english language is deteriorating, i’ll be over here marveling at how it ceaselessly reinvents itself *whistles*
Thag Simmons
I’ve heard conflicting things about which version/meaning of the phrase came first
However the version where “blood is thicker” refers to family ties is by far the more common usage
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Ana Chronistic
Amazi-Sarah is prepared for
ANYTHINGthis one specific thingReltzik
Snarking at people?
Felix
Yes, but also yes. And yes, in addition to more yes.
HeySo
I dunno. “Be Prepared [for anything]” feels less like an Amazi-Girl slogan, and more a slogan from a particular hyena-rallying Disney villain. 😛
“Scar brand condoms: If you don’t stop them now, they’ll grow up to become a threat to your throne. BE PREPARED.”
milu
that’s excellent
Demoted Oblivious
I really do NOT want anything that refers to scars around my equipment.
Morleuca
ugh, I wish I had scars around my equipment. I mean, I ultimately want them to fade too, but….
Deanatay
She’s been carrying those around just waiting for the opportunity to throw them at someone like this.
Use them herself?? Naaaaaah
Doctor_Who
So, considering that Joyce’s homeschooled Sex Ed likely consisted of “Don’t”, she was unable to recognize a vibrator, she’s “a size six”, and her erotic dreams involve tummy wands…do you think she’s currently wondering why Sarah is offering Dorothy chewing gum?
poofdepoof
She might have learned a thing or two during that time skip
RassilonTDavros
…well the way Becky is talking about her parents here totally doesn’t worry me at all.
RassilonTDavros
(This wasn’t meant to be a reply, not sure what happened there)
Some Ed
In other web comic comments I sometimes engage in, there are apparently issues about posts suddenly not showing up as replies when they were definitely meant to be replies.
Maybe some javascript got updated with a bug somewhere that’s causing those attempts at making replies to come over here and make random base posts into replies?
RassilonTDavros
I should note I was typing that comment while barely coherent, under the effects of the second Pfizer vaccine dose, so it may well have been my fault
Needfuldoer
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NotThatDrew
I’d wager an even 50/50 on her being alright versus trying to overcompensate and just SEEM alright. On one hand her mother has been dead for longer and Toedad was, well, Toedad, but on the other hand I can’t imagine how rough it must be to lose both parents that young.
Emperor Norton II
What? Becky trying to overcompensate because she’s still incredibly afraid to show any form of vulnerability, because a lifetime habit of building that as your armour doesn’t just magically go away once the main reason you built the armour is gone?
Nahhh, that’s not possible at all.
Reltzik
And we can completely rule out the possibility that she addresses problems with humor and absurdity because that makes them more manageable and lets her actually process them.
… and also that I’m projecting myself onto her with that. Yup, we can definitely rule that out too.
Achallenger
Oh yeah, is it established how old she was when her mom died?
Thag Simmons
Late teens I think.
Needfuldoer
IIRC it was last spring, just under a year ago DoA time.
Rainhat
With you on that one.
KJ
This is just Becky being Becky. She’s said similar things in the past – it’s kind of how she copes.
Bicycle Bill
There must be at least ten there. Does Sarah really think that Dorothy and Walky would need THAT many?
And btw, since when do condoms come in strips like that?
(asking for a friend….)
woobie
Condoms always come in strips like that. Unless you buy singles from the bathroom vending machine or whatever.
I do wonder why Sarah carries ALL OF THEM around.
Wizard
Considering that Sarah seems to be in a committed relationship with her vibe, I’m wondering why she is carrying any around. Just in case of this situation?
Reltzik
She rooms with Joyce, and there’s a significant chance that Joyce is just going to snap one day and want to go out and blow a dozen dicks in one night.
But until then, there are so many hilarious opportunities to wave them in Joyce’s face and freak her out to pass up.
More seriously, it’s not that Sarah wants abstinence, so much as abstinence is the price she willingly pays for distancing herself from society. I’m sure that if she encountered an objectifiably hunky guy who was completely cool with no-strings attached one-night stand without also being a creepazoid looking for a no-strings one-night stand with her, she’d be prepared multiple condoms.
… er, I mean, it’s just on the general principle. Carry them even if you don’t plan on using them, because sometimes unplanned opportunities arise and need wrappers. She doesn’t plan to and definitely doesn’t fantasize using them all quick succession. Nope. Definitely not.
Roborat
Okay, I can buy your argument, and I can see having a supply in her room. However, I don’t understand why she would be carrying them around to her lectures, does she think an spontaneous orgy is going to happen in class? Oh, I know, she has watched too much anime and expects some guy to confess to her behind the gym, and everyone knows if you don’t outright reject them, you are supposed to have sex right then and there.
Reltzik
Oh, that. No, she just has them in her purse, and like pretty much everyone with a purse, she doesn’t customize her purse’s contents specifically for every trip she takes out of the dorm.
Roborat
You are no fun, I like my theory better.
BBCC
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/sexualshamereel/
Sarah has sex. Not with anybody we’ve seen during the first semester, but we skipped a whole three months. Even if she didn’t, she carries some just in case.
milu
i don’t know, that sounded like it could be describing an extended, creative masturbatory life experience
thejeff
She may have been more social and sexually active back in high school before the full pressure of keeping the scholarship and then the Dana situation and resulting harassment happened.
It would seem odd if she was getting laid offscreen without it becoming a plot point. Something could have happened during the timeskip, but the longer we go without it coming up, the less likely that is I think.
BarerMender
Hope springs eternal.
HeatherJean
>I do wonder why Sarah carries ALL OF THEM around.
Possibly because she hopes that will convince everybody that she’s having tons of sex, and that will keep them from trying to match her up with someone.
Not likely, but an alternative explanation as to why she’s be carrying them around.
Miri
It depends how many you buy at once
Opus the Poet
That’s the way they come when shipped as a multi-pack.
You know what would be fun? a “How It’s Made” episode about condoms, especially how they get rolled up and in the package that you have to tear open.
Well, ask Google and ye shall find https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oif5CWc4eU&ab_channel=HowIt%27sMade
Bicycle Bill
It’s just that I never saw more than three or four to a strip, and then only when purchased in multipacks of 12 or 24. Even the video you linked to, which showed the finished and rolled condoms being sealed into their individual packets as one lone stripe, mentioned that the strips were then cut to a specific number of packets suitable to the desired package.
I can only assume that a long, continuous strip would be part of a special package intended for places of extensive distribution such as public health facilities or high-use environments such as brothels.
Lars
She lives in a wing with Roz. So probably not.
Pylgrim
No, no. You see, fundies are taught what condoms are: evil tools created by the devil to promote promiscuity in teenagers.
Wagstaff
Not a bad trade, Becky.
Doctor_Who
For that price, your options are “become Batman” or “date a dinosaur”.
Becky chose well.
NotThatDrew
Yeah, the Batman shit sucks if you don’t have the nearly unlimited budget to work with
Stephen Bierce
She can’t even afford to be Peter Parker.
Sirksome
Peter Parker doesn’t typically live that sensational a day to day life. Minus the spider powers any sufficiently trained person with a mask can get their ass kicked for the greater good while struggling to hold down a job, a relationship, and a studio apartment. In fact it might be better cause at least you’d get to pal around with other do gooder freaks.
Ferret
Peter Parker also builds himself an array of gadgets that complement his powers in most iterations, including his own webshooters. Getting bankrolled by Stark Industries for that stuff is an MCU thing.
Z
A RECENT mcu thing. Originally he was shown creating his own stuff.
Reltzik
He literally has a sixth sense as a superpower. If that’s not sense-ational, I don’t know what is.
StClair
Action is his reward.
Adam Black
LooKOUT , here comes
Gabriel A Klonoski
If she plays her cards right she could become a paleontologist and she can date dinosaurs while she dates a dinosaur.
milu
eyyyyy
Sirksome
I’m not so sure actually. If it was just Ross that would be a debateable profit but I assume Becky enjoyed having her mom around.
woobie
nooooo
Ross with his flaws was still her father. I see mistakes, not prolonged, intentional abuse; therefore losing her last parent undoubtedly is bad for Becky’s emotional well being.
Wagstaff
He threatened her and her girlfriend with a shotgun! If that’s not abuse, then does abuse even exist?
Spencer
They probably mean before that, before Ross made it abundantly clear he valued his authority over Becky and his imagined vision of a perfect family over the daughter he actually had.
If Toedad was just the shittiest human being imaginable from birth to timely enough death it probably wouldn’t have been that big a deal.
Wagstaff
Does a disease cease to exist before its discovery?
Spencer
Use an analogy that’s appropriate to the situation.
Wagstaff
I was referring to abuse, not homosexuality.
Spencer
I’m aware, I’m saying that we’ve seen like two flashbacks to Becky’s homelife involving her dad. One was him being kind of a weird fundie at a theme park but not particularly malicious, the other was him collapsed in his chair that his wife was dead.
Like, Toedad’s actions on campus don’t travel back in time and make him always an abusive asshole. He’s wrong because of the things he did now, when his daughter was in front of him and he decided that his authority and his dogmatic faith mattered more than her. The closest thing to “Toedad was always an abuser” we can say here is that his actions on campus showed that he valued the perfect suburban home life for Jesus and himself he thought he had as opposed to the one where his wife was suffering from severe mental problems and his daughter is gay.
thejeff
We haven’t seen much in the way of flashbacks, but we’ve seen hints from Becky.
We know the whole religion aspect went far beyond “valued the perfect suburban home life for Jesus and himself”. We know he was forcing Becky into that mold – even beyond her being gay, she was allowed no aspirations beyond getting married and raising kids.
We knew Becky has developed all sorts of emotional armor and tricks to cope with her home life. There was a comment, for example, about “accidentally” getting gum in her hair so she could get it cut shorter – then tie that to Ross’s speech during the kidnapping about “your hair is your womanhood”.
I’d agree it’s not proven, but it’s also not clear that he was fine until he showed up on campus with the gun. Abusers are often subtle, especially when out in public, so one flashback to a theme park trip doesn’t prove much.
Spencer
It probably wouldn’t have been that big a deal that he died, I mean.
Reltzik
I mean…. TECHNICALLY you can set the threshold for what counts as abuse as worse than that, and still not reach the bottom of the barrel.
You’re completely right but when you phrase it like that I have to accept the challenge.
Jhon
A squirrel rifle is not a shotgun.
(Every time someone calls a rifle a shotgun, the NRA kills a kitten.)
Fart Captor
woobie, kidnapping someone at gunpoint to send them to conversion “therapy” (torture) is not a “mistake”, that’s the horrifying logical endpoint of an abusive and bigoted mindset
What the fuck is wrong with you
Wagstaff
Well put, Fart Captor.
Chris Phoenix
On the one hand, what Toedad did was far beyond “mistakes.”
On the other hand, Joyce didn’t realize how toxic Carol was until she got away from home. Becky, having grown up in a cult, might have thought her dad was normal and loving until … hmm… sometime between when her mom killed herself and her dad kidnapped her with a shotgun. Which is actually pretty late in her young life, and she might easily miss the dad she thought she grew up with, even in hindsight.
Wagstaff
It had been said that blood is thicker than water. For people who’ve enjoyed healthy family relationships, it can be deeply unsettling to hear values like that being questioned.
However, for people who have endured abusive relationships in their families, blood is only messier than water.
Miri
I love my parents. I know they love me and would do anything they can to support me.
I also know that yelling at your kid til they’re so upset they vomit then being annoyed with them for overreacting is not exactly stellar parenting and my dad did this to me a few times… My brother, who does not go to pieces when he’s yelled at, tried to walk away from an argument to his room and Dad followed him so he jumped out of his bedroom window (UK first floor; the one above the ground floor) once. When they got into an argument when Dad was teaching him to drive, my brother got out of the car and threatened to play Chicken with oncoming traffic if Dad didn’t go away and leave him alone.
In retrospect, I kinda wish I’d had my brother’s boundary-setting abilities…
Delicious Taffy
Damn, your brother plays hardball.
JBento
That’s not what “blood is thicker than water” means. It’s the shortened version of an originally-Jewish saying “the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb”, and it literally means the opposite of what people are using it for these days, that the bonds you CHOOSE to form are more important than any resulting from the circumstances of birth.
milu
oh wow, didn’t know that! thanks!
that said, meanings drift through time for many reasons, so i would argue that what an expression means is determined (primarily) by how people use it, not (so much) by its etymology.
Wagstaff
Yeah, I guess phrases and words in the English language inevitably get altered and tortured by their users for generations.
For instance, the “hammer and anvil” metaphor is often used to imply that the anvil gets the worse of it, although in reality it is always the anvil that breaks the hammer.
milu
please do go ahead and rant about how the english language is deteriorating, i’ll be over here marveling at how it ceaselessly reinvents itself *whistles*
Thag Simmons
I’ve heard conflicting things about which version/meaning of the phrase came first
However the version where “blood is thicker” refers to family ties is by far the more common usage