Yeah. Now let’s hope Sarah can bring herself to contact Dana.
Anonymous
With fists of steel?
At least Dana is still alive… That probably wouldn’t be the case if she kept wallowing in self-pity and recreational drug abuse. Tours something, right?
Anonymous
Sorry, “that’s”, not “tours”.
I blame autocorrect and regret nothing.
djangermouse
“At least Dana is still alive… That probably wouldn’t be the case if she kept wallowing in self-pity and recreational drug abuse.”
yes she would have weedsmoked her way to death
or gateway druggsed her way to meth, that obv happens to everybody on the devilweed
moonyriver
I think it’s more the depression that both caused the overuse of weed and was then probably exacerbated by it (because it can do that). When you’re smoking drugs THAT often and for that kind of reason, yes, it is bad. And that’s the kind of drug abuse that *does* serve as a gateway, because at some point it’ll stop helping. If you’re using a drug for fun, it won’t necessarily be a gateway, but if it’s self-medication of sorts then at some point, it’s going to stop working.
Ms Danger
Yeah…people don’t die from smoking cannabis. Period.
Narf
Assuming you know better than someone else does what to do with their life makes you an asshole.
Even if it turns out later that you really did.
Funny thing, but a true one.
Narf
…and though my opinion regarding Sarah has shifted somewhat (I’m trying more to see things from the perspective of others, and to give credit for attempts to do the right thing, even attempts that end in misguided failures), I still feel this way.
However, it was remiss of me not to add that sometimes in life, one can reach a place where one needs someone else to be that asshole that knows better than they do, to make that choice that they couldn’t make on their own.
It will probably take a very long time, but unless it turns out that Sarah was either A) actually acting selfishly rather than out of concern (which strikes me as unlikely, given how many other faster, more vindictive ways there would have been to simply “remove the distraction,” so to speak), or B) grossly mistaken about Dana’s state of emotional health at the time she made the phone call to her father (which also strikes me as unlikely, given the social withdrawal, greatly increased drug intake and late-night sobbing), I think that Dana will want to apologize to Sarah. Probably also give her a huge hug and tell her how grateful she is for giving her that kick in the ass that she sorely needed.
Or, hell, maybe going home was the worst thing that ever happened to her and her life has been even more sharply downhill ever since. Maybe being in college and close to her friends was the one thing keeping her from the razor blade, and being taken away from that caused her to shut down completely. Who knows? Raidah seems to think she does, but there’s no way to be sure that she’s right.
Those are the risks you run when you make a choice like the one Sarah made, but I (having examined my own thoughts on this many, many times now) would like to think I’d have made a similar choice in her position. I’d like to think I’d have to courage to force my friend to help themselves instead of allowing them to sink deeper and deeper into sadness and loneliness and isolation and pain. I’d like to think I would take the risk of alienating people if it would help someone who was a friend to me.
Present-day me might. College-age me almost certainly wouldn’t have. Sarah is a better person than I was when I was 19.
Even if she did, “last I checked” could mean _any time_.
Raidah, of course, still thinks Dana’s didn’t have any problems so nuts to her
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
Also could have brought her contacting of Dana up at any time, but waited until Sarah brought her up first. The more this plays out, the less it seems to have to do with Dana’s prospects and more to do with something else. Raidah is clearly is smarter than Sarah by this point as well.
no I mean the patty could one of those meatless ones.
Yotomoe
it could have. It could have not.
When you assume you make an ass out of Yumi.
Random832
It would be decidedly odd to illustrate an ordinary meat patty as being gray with red and green bits in it. She also put no cheese on it. Balance of evidence says it’s a veggie burger.
Did you know, that in the Hebrew version, it’s just “Green Eggs and Food”, ’cause ham isn’t kosher and/or doesn’t rhyme well enough?
Yotomoe
I’d love to just see, “Food” on a menu. I’d have to order it out of curiosity.
GrrArg42
That’s what I keep TRYING to order but I keep getting various shapes of plywood. One was in the shape of a bread box and I thought I was getting close.
It rhymes with Am! And Sam! What else does it need to rhyme with? What is Sam I Am’s name in Hebrew!?!?!?
ThoDuSt
You seem to be forgetting that Hebrew is a different language with different words for things. Different words referring to things like ham, for example. Words that may not rhyme with the same things their English counterparts do.
begbert2
Different languages have different words? What madness are you speaking of??
Next you’re going to tell them they put the words in a different order, or some other craziness like that.
Legasher
That would be totally silly. At least we can still just add an “S” sound to the end of a word to make it more than one.
JIntegrity
Yes, like gooses, childs, babys, deers, foxs, boxs, ad other such convenient examples!
Eating a veggie burger does not a vegetarian make. I’ve had plenty of Veggie burgers, in fact Morningstar’s garden burger is quite delicious. however I still eat primarily meat.
Sarah–if you want to prove you give a shit about someone besides yourself (which you clearly don’t, but you should at least pretend you want to so Raidah might get off your back) why not ask how Dana’s doing and why life at home isn’t working out? Best case scenario the only problem is Dana not being allowed to smoke. You can fire a few quips off of that.
Well, I guess if her dad remarried in a year or if he were divorced and remarried before her mom died. That might explain why there’s some tension at home.
I don’t think Sarah only cares about herself. She seems to care about what happens to Joyce. She could’ve just let her go to that party, and not follow after her to make sure she was ok.
However, I am surprised she didn’t ask how Dana was doing. I don’t know if she never really cared about her in the first place, but she sure doesn’t seem to now. I know she was starting to get pissed off at Raidah again, but it seemed like she would’ve said “Wait, what do you mean that she’s not in a better place – – what’s going on with Dana?” But she didn’t.
It’s possible that she’s keeping in contact with Dana as well, and it’s also possible that Raidah has gone into more detail during previous times she harassed Sarah. They may have had the “being put into a drug program is not the same thing as being sent away in shame!” argument already.
(And it’s also totally possible that she has no idea what’s up with Dana but is just tired of discussing the whole thing and wants it to go away now. There are many possibilities, is my point.)
Norah
I agree, she’s probably sick of discussing it with Raidah. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t care. I spoke too quickly.
djangermouse
And it’s also totally possible that she has no idea what’s up with Dana but is just tired of discussing the whole thing and wants it to go away now.
“Oh well here’s my halfassed apology for unlawful assault, now I’M ALL TIRED”
Greenygal
That wasn’t actually meant to be a defense of Sarah, but it’s still more like “This girl keeps harassing me about this, and then I sat down and explain the whole thing in detail to two other people even though I really didn’t want to, and then one of them threw it in my face and accused me of other shit that isn’t even true, and now I’m making myself apologize to the girl who was harassing me earlier and she still won’t let it drop for five minutes, and I don’t even care anymore, I am just DONE, okay?” (This is speculative of Sarah’s state of mind…but it sounds in-character to me.)
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Plasma Mongoose
Zing!
David Herbert
Oh, so she is still in contact with Dana. Well that’s good, making sure her friend’s fine.
Yotomoe
Raidah is a sweetheart. Heart of Gold, that girl.
ASmellyOgre
Yeah. Now let’s hope Sarah can bring herself to contact Dana.
Anonymous
With fists of steel?
At least Dana is still alive… That probably wouldn’t be the case if she kept wallowing in self-pity and recreational drug abuse. Tours something, right?
Anonymous
Sorry, “that’s”, not “tours”.
I blame autocorrect and regret nothing.
djangermouse
“At least Dana is still alive… That probably wouldn’t be the case if she kept wallowing in self-pity and recreational drug abuse.”
yes she would have weedsmoked her way to death
or gateway druggsed her way to meth, that obv happens to everybody on the devilweed
moonyriver
I think it’s more the depression that both caused the overuse of weed and was then probably exacerbated by it (because it can do that). When you’re smoking drugs THAT often and for that kind of reason, yes, it is bad. And that’s the kind of drug abuse that *does* serve as a gateway, because at some point it’ll stop helping. If you’re using a drug for fun, it won’t necessarily be a gateway, but if it’s self-medication of sorts then at some point, it’s going to stop working.
Ms Danger
Yeah…people don’t die from smoking cannabis. Period.
Narf
Assuming you know better than someone else does what to do with their life makes you an asshole.
Even if it turns out later that you really did.
Funny thing, but a true one.
Narf
…and though my opinion regarding Sarah has shifted somewhat (I’m trying more to see things from the perspective of others, and to give credit for attempts to do the right thing, even attempts that end in misguided failures), I still feel this way.
However, it was remiss of me not to add that sometimes in life, one can reach a place where one needs someone else to be that asshole that knows better than they do, to make that choice that they couldn’t make on their own.
It will probably take a very long time, but unless it turns out that Sarah was either A) actually acting selfishly rather than out of concern (which strikes me as unlikely, given how many other faster, more vindictive ways there would have been to simply “remove the distraction,” so to speak), or B) grossly mistaken about Dana’s state of emotional health at the time she made the phone call to her father (which also strikes me as unlikely, given the social withdrawal, greatly increased drug intake and late-night sobbing), I think that Dana will want to apologize to Sarah. Probably also give her a huge hug and tell her how grateful she is for giving her that kick in the ass that she sorely needed.
Or, hell, maybe going home was the worst thing that ever happened to her and her life has been even more sharply downhill ever since. Maybe being in college and close to her friends was the one thing keeping her from the razor blade, and being taken away from that caused her to shut down completely. Who knows? Raidah seems to think she does, but there’s no way to be sure that she’s right.
Those are the risks you run when you make a choice like the one Sarah made, but I (having examined my own thoughts on this many, many times now) would like to think I’d have made a similar choice in her position. I’d like to think I’d have to courage to force my friend to help themselves instead of allowing them to sink deeper and deeper into sadness and loneliness and isolation and pain. I’d like to think I would take the risk of alienating people if it would help someone who was a friend to me.
Present-day me might. College-age me almost certainly wouldn’t have. Sarah is a better person than I was when I was 19.
Todd
At least I hope Raidah’s actually talked to Dana and isn’t just assuming
Yotomoe
When you assume you make an ass out of Uma Thurman.
Originalslugboy
Wait, that was *my* fault? Uh, sorry, Ooms.
Roborat
That would be bad, she might through a shark at you.
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
Heads, she actually did, tails, she’s assuming.
Charles RB
Even if she did, “last I checked” could mean _any time_.
Raidah, of course, still thinks Dana’s didn’t have any problems so nuts to her
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
Also could have brought her contacting of Dana up at any time, but waited until Sarah brought her up first. The more this plays out, the less it seems to have to do with Dana’s prospects and more to do with something else. Raidah is clearly is smarter than Sarah by this point as well.
Yotomoe
I am liking this mutual respect. Let’s hope they can hate each other in silence, as girls often do.
Wonder Wig
I’m a guy and I hate things in silence.
GrrArg42
I’m Thing, and I hate silence in a guy. “It’s clobbering time!”
slicedtoad
I’m The Silence and I hate things looking at me.
Vincent
Hello Darkness, my old friend.
Cespinarve
I’ve come to bother you again….
Or something. That’s how the lyric goes in my head, anyways.
Kaj
Because a vision softly creeping…
Pantsotron
Stole my lunch while I was sleeping…
LaurelRaven
Great, now I have Simon and Garfunkle stuck in my head.
Hmm…could be worse.
Ms Danger
I’ll never forget you The Silence.
Caffienated
Looks like Raidah is a vegetarian, interesting 🙂
Plasma Mongoose
It least I hope that green circle is a vegetable.
Caffienated
or it’s a barf pattie with seasoning 😛
Plasma Mongoose
So it’s predigested? How convenient!
Liam
A reference my ears (or eyes, rather) applaud (if they serve me correctly)
Lieutenant Dan
I tried to imagine how one’s ears might applaud.
Looking at your gravatar, I no longer have to imagine.
Liam
that quote in itself is a reference to the golden years of Community
Yotomoe
wanting a lot of vegatables on your burger doesn’t make one a vegetarian. I put lots of vegies on my burgers and I eat meat regurally
Caffienated
no I mean the patty could one of those meatless ones.
Yotomoe
it could have. It could have not.
When you assume you make an ass out of Yumi.
Random832
It would be decidedly odd to illustrate an ordinary meat patty as being gray with red and green bits in it. She also put no cheese on it. Balance of evidence says it’s a veggie burger.
Rachel
For all we know, that could be greeen eggs and ham she’s eating…cuz those things actually exist. Shut up.
GrrArg42
They do! My dad made some for me as a kid. Just used some green food coloring when cooking the ham and eggs. I remember being really excited.
Rachel
For all we know, that could be green eggs and ham she’s eating…cuz those things actually exist. Shut up.
Leorale
Did you know, that in the Hebrew version, it’s just “Green Eggs and Food”, ’cause ham isn’t kosher and/or doesn’t rhyme well enough?
Yotomoe
I’d love to just see, “Food” on a menu. I’d have to order it out of curiosity.
GrrArg42
That’s what I keep TRYING to order but I keep getting various shapes of plywood. One was in the shape of a bread box and I thought I was getting close.
AJBulldis
It rhymes with Am! And Sam! What else does it need to rhyme with? What is Sam I Am’s name in Hebrew!?!?!?
ThoDuSt
You seem to be forgetting that Hebrew is a different language with different words for things. Different words referring to things like ham, for example. Words that may not rhyme with the same things their English counterparts do.
begbert2
Different languages have different words? What madness are you speaking of??
Next you’re going to tell them they put the words in a different order, or some other craziness like that.
Legasher
That would be totally silly. At least we can still just add an “S” sound to the end of a word to make it more than one.
JIntegrity
Yes, like gooses, childs, babys, deers, foxs, boxs, ad other such convenient examples!
TemplarKnight
Eating a veggie burger does not a vegetarian make. I’ve had plenty of Veggie burgers, in fact Morningstar’s garden burger is quite delicious. however I still eat primarily meat.
Jelli
I’m not a vegetarian either, but the veggie options at my college were usually better and not as fraught with peril as the meat options were.
Liam
I read that first sentence as “I’m not a vegetarian eater, but..”
phlebas
Or she’s a Muslim and only eats meat if it’s Halal.
Wonder Wig
On my home Tamaran, this is what we call the BUURRRN.
Yotomoe
On my home, Aldaran, people don’t say much these days.
Wonder Wig
Awwwwh
Mrelegos
And that was read completely in Starfires voice.
Liam
BOOYAH
brasca1
So much for Dana setting Raidah straight. Maybe she’s in rehab or was cut off when she refused to do that.
GenericScreenName101
Well ya’now Sarah, Cuba is actually a nice, interesting & progressive place and the USA is still the best
Wack'd
Sarah–if you want to prove you give a shit about someone besides yourself (which you clearly don’t, but you should at least pretend you want to so Raidah might get off your back) why not ask how Dana’s doing and why life at home isn’t working out? Best case scenario the only problem is Dana not being allowed to smoke. You can fire a few quips off of that.
Yotomoe
She went home and her parents sent her to a boarding school where she’s hit in the face with a dodgeball every time she thinks of weed.
Gordon
Boarding school?
For a college student?
(Technically, Dana already was at a boarding school.)
Jelli
Parents?
Well, I guess if her dad remarried in a year or if he were divorced and remarried before her mom died. That might explain why there’s some tension at home.
Norah
I don’t think Sarah only cares about herself. She seems to care about what happens to Joyce. She could’ve just let her go to that party, and not follow after her to make sure she was ok.
However, I am surprised she didn’t ask how Dana was doing. I don’t know if she never really cared about her in the first place, but she sure doesn’t seem to now. I know she was starting to get pissed off at Raidah again, but it seemed like she would’ve said “Wait, what do you mean that she’s not in a better place – – what’s going on with Dana?” But she didn’t.
Greenygal
It’s possible that she’s keeping in contact with Dana as well, and it’s also possible that Raidah has gone into more detail during previous times she harassed Sarah. They may have had the “being put into a drug program is not the same thing as being sent away in shame!” argument already.
(And it’s also totally possible that she has no idea what’s up with Dana but is just tired of discussing the whole thing and wants it to go away now. There are many possibilities, is my point.)
Norah
I agree, she’s probably sick of discussing it with Raidah. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t care. I spoke too quickly.
djangermouse
And it’s also totally possible that she has no idea what’s up with Dana but is just tired of discussing the whole thing and wants it to go away now.
“Oh well here’s my halfassed apology for unlawful assault, now I’M ALL TIRED”
Greenygal
That wasn’t actually meant to be a defense of Sarah, but it’s still more like “This girl keeps harassing me about this, and then I sat down and explain the whole thing in detail to two other people even though I really didn’t want to, and then one of them threw it in my face and accused me of other shit that isn’t even true, and now I’m making myself apologize to the girl who was harassing me earlier and she still won’t let it drop for five minutes, and I don’t even care anymore, I am just DONE, okay?” (This is speculative of Sarah’s state of mind…but it sounds in-character to me.)
Wack'd
I didn’t say Sarah only cares about herself. I said she doesn’t care if other people think that.
begbert2
She cares whether Joyce thinks that. It appears that she’s given up caring about Radiah’s opinion.
And the way Radiah’s been harassing her, I would have stopped caring too.