Well as the song goes, Dotty – “You can’t fight the moonlight”, so… perhaps don’t try? Just admit to the moonlight that you’re in love with Joyce in your own way, acknowledge Leann Rimes as the undisputed queen and move on. 😉
All I could think of when I read the title was Sisko’s speech from In the Pale Moonlight.
“So I lied, I cheated, I bribed men to cover the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But most damning thing of all, I think I can live with it. And if I had to do it all over again, I would.”
HueSatLight
I thought of the Babylon 5 intro voiceover, “all alone in the night”. Makes more sense than Cats. Dorothy’s not a cat. She is however, living on a self-contained world, a shining beacon in space.
At this point most of the cast should have varying stages of PTSD, evolving into depression, which is similar to what you said, Joyce in particular should be having nightmares on a daily basis, and Becky should be as well given all the schitt she’s seen, repeated kidnappings and her Toe Dad killed in front of her. She should be getting therapy on the regular, but we never see it…
Hacksaw
But never alone. Someone’s been there for her. This doesn’t erase the traumas, but it helps.
elebenty
As I recall, the timing of the van kidnapping viscerally interacted with my own PTSD from the first orange term. As Hacksaw wrote, it didn’t erase the trauma, but it felt like Willis’ buffer knew just what we’d need in that moment.
It is worth noting that while the flashback itself is reasonably pleasant, it also takes place shortly after Amber gutted Gashface McDrugger
thejeff
It also leads to her sleeping with Joyce. (And Walky.)
Sharizard
Is it me or has Joyce had a bit of a… bust increase in the redraw?
Dorothy’s certainly remembering things in an interesting way.
Regina phalange
No, it’s a different angle and Willis’ art style has gotten more detailed.
Why are so many commenters obsessed with looking for hints that Dorothy is attracted to Joyce’s chest? It’s constant, but unsupported by any reasonable interpretation of these strips. Dorothy wouldn’t have believed herself to be a 0 on the Kinsey scale at any point if she was attracted to boobs; it’s pretty clear that she is attracted to Joyce for Joyce, not necessarily her body. She’s not going to go from “I exclusively like men” to “boooooobz” overnight just because her first girl crush has a big chest.
Sharizard
Mostly because it’s fun to join in on the teasing the same way Willis clearly is.
How many are “so many”? Can you give even one example?
clif
“So many” is always more than two, but mostly depends on context. You previous post is an example of the use of “so many.”
No, I don’t know what we’re talking about either. I started back at the beginning of the thread with the van comment and couldn’t find a use of the word “many.” I’m inclined to believe that the Internet stuck your comment in at a random place instead of where it was supposed to go, but what with you being Taffy and all, it’s hard to know for sure.
I mean, the post I directly replied to says “so many commenters” right up front. They’ve made a claim (“so many commenters are obsessed with blah blah blah”), but can’t give one example of somebody who’s obsessed with it.
Li
Like one person yesterday joked that Dorothy was staring at Joyce’s chest in the flashback panel, one person agreed, and like six people said “no she’s not, obviously”, so I guess that’s people being obsessed with it????
Blaine and Toedad kidnapped Joyce, Dorothy, and pretty much half the cast in an effort to get Amazigirl to show up. Dorothy took charge and came up with a plan to escape and expose Blaine. It ALMOST worked, except Dotty didn’t count on Blaine’s spitefulness when cornered with his inevitable arrest and he grabbed Joyce, threw her into a van, and drove off rather than just surrender to the police, like Dotty was expecting.
Still have them now and they are awesome. I think it’s weird how often people forget that humans are tactile social animals. Skin-to-skin contact and physical touch is so important to our moods. You wouldn’t refuse to pet an animal, why stop hugging your friends and laying about all over each other?
clif
No idea, except in my case the people I would do that with are dead now or far away. My current friends don’t do that. Except hugs. Hugs are always nice.
Jerach
Realizing my queer identity and meeting other queer people has definitely helped me engage with that more. Still kinda anxious about asking with new people though ’cause our society sucks.
Both my older brothers have kids with one more on the way and I can safely reassess I’ll be extremely happy as the weird uncle who doesn’t talk much they see about once a year.
I feel like I’m missing something obvious re: the empty hanger in the final panel. Is it that the hanger with nothing on it represents her trauma over almost losing Joyce forever during the kidnapping? I feel like there’s a more direct connection that I’m just failing to recognize.
201 thoughts on “All alone in the moonlight”
Steamweed
All the memories. All the feels.
Steamweed
Howinhell did I get first? :O
Giffem
i gave up after 12:03 and it not being ready yet. assume rest also gave it time to post
Steamweed
I think the server is lagging again. Five minutes I’m guessin’?
Yet_One_More_Idiot
Well as the song goes, Dotty – “You can’t fight the moonlight”, so… perhaps don’t try? Just admit to the moonlight that you’re in love with Joyce in your own way, acknowledge Leann Rimes as the undisputed queen and move on. 😉
Needfuldoer
All I could think of when I read the title was Sisko’s speech from In the Pale Moonlight.
“So I lied, I cheated, I bribed men to cover the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But most damning thing of all, I think I can live with it. And if I had to do it all over again, I would.”
HueSatLight
I thought of the Babylon 5 intro voiceover, “all alone in the night”. Makes more sense than Cats. Dorothy’s not a cat. She is however, living on a self-contained world, a shining beacon in space.
Steamweed
An excellent speech.
Adept
Memories, from the Cats musical guys
Daibhid C
I can smile at the old days … except some of them.
clif
All the nostalgia. All the memories highlighted.
Is Joyce about to die?
Kammon
Hopefully it’ll just be the ‘Little death’.
elebenty
Maybe multiple Little Deaths, she’s overdue.
Steamweed
Little deaths for everyone. Let the little slaughter commence!
Sirksome
Hey, trauma is hot. Just ask literally any character in this comic.
Steamweed
If that were true, I would want to see all of them in the spicy patreon. Every single one. (except the minors thank you)
Huh. Come to think of it…..
clif
It’s almost true. The corrected version is “other people’s trauma is hot.”
Steamweed
Yes, this! Most sadly, my own trauma is just…abrasive. Not in any way hot.
jpnr
nooo, remember dinosaur comics!
feelings are boring
kissing is awesome
Steamweed
Trust Moray to know what she’s talking about!
Charles Phipps
Dorothy must realize her true calling: to be a supervillain!
Steamweed
She is.. the Queenpin!
(dunDunDUN)
mindbleach
All her outfits remind you that you’ve been through some shit with this girl.
Silver lining: shopping montage!
Mr. Random
Say what you will about Joyce, she’s strong.
She never lets the negative memories stop her from trying to make better ones.
Davus
And it seems like it’s getting to the point where she’s litterally been through so much and yet she’s so upbeat that it’s easy to forget.
Durandal_1707
At this point, half the cast have endured so much trauma that I’d have expected them all to be catatonic by now.
Opus the Poet
At this point most of the cast should have varying stages of PTSD, evolving into depression, which is similar to what you said, Joyce in particular should be having nightmares on a daily basis, and Becky should be as well given all the schitt she’s seen, repeated kidnappings and her Toe Dad killed in front of her. She should be getting therapy on the regular, but we never see it…
Hacksaw
But never alone. Someone’s been there for her. This doesn’t erase the traumas, but it helps.
elebenty
As I recall, the timing of the van kidnapping viscerally interacted with my own PTSD from the first orange term. As Hacksaw wrote, it didn’t erase the trauma, but it felt like Willis’ buffer knew just what we’d need in that moment.
Coatl
Something tells me that this enthusiasm is hiding very well some details that Joyce still has
True Survivor
Heck yeah she is. Every story needs a hero we can aspire to be and Joyce has got that on lock (along with the epitome of sweater vest fashion).
Elf grrl
It took me a bit to find these strips but yes, Joyce really has grown stronger in spite of her trauma and has told Joe she is NOT fragile.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2024/comic/book-15/01-love-dares-you-to-change/bothbe/
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2024/comic/book-15/01-love-dares-you-to-change/fragile/
Shitbird
I don’t remember the van
Laura
I could use an explainer on all the panels.
Marisa Mockery
1. Not sure, looks like they’re hanging out.
2. Joyce gets roofied at the party.
3. Joyce gets kidnapped (again) by Blaine.
Davus
I believe that they are watching Dexter and Monkey master together.
RassilonTDavros
Flashback One: Redraw (or maybe just alteration?) of the final panel of this strip from 2017.
Flashback Two: Redraw of the first panel of this strip, but with Joyce’s pose amended to match the last panel of the preceding strip.
Flashback Three: Depicts the scene from this strip, but from a different angle.
Straximus
Huh. All of those links work for me except the first one.
a/snow/mous/e
Yeah, same for me. See if this link works better.
Tan
It is worth noting that while the flashback itself is reasonably pleasant, it also takes place shortly after Amber gutted Gashface McDrugger
thejeff
It also leads to her sleeping with Joyce. (And Walky.)
Sharizard
Is it me or has Joyce had a bit of a… bust increase in the redraw?
Dorothy’s certainly remembering things in an interesting way.
Regina phalange
No, it’s a different angle and Willis’ art style has gotten more detailed.
Why are so many commenters obsessed with looking for hints that Dorothy is attracted to Joyce’s chest? It’s constant, but unsupported by any reasonable interpretation of these strips. Dorothy wouldn’t have believed herself to be a 0 on the Kinsey scale at any point if she was attracted to boobs; it’s pretty clear that she is attracted to Joyce for Joyce, not necessarily her body. She’s not going to go from “I exclusively like men” to “boooooobz” overnight just because her first girl crush has a big chest.
Sharizard
Mostly because it’s fun to join in on the teasing the same way Willis clearly is.
Taffy
How many are “so many”? Can you give even one example?
clif
“So many” is always more than two, but mostly depends on context. You previous post is an example of the use of “so many.”
No, I don’t know what we’re talking about either. I started back at the beginning of the thread with the van comment and couldn’t find a use of the word “many.” I’m inclined to believe that the Internet stuck your comment in at a random place instead of where it was supposed to go, but what with you being Taffy and all, it’s hard to know for sure.
Taffy
I mean, the post I directly replied to says “so many commenters” right up front. They’ve made a claim (“so many commenters are obsessed with blah blah blah”), but can’t give one example of somebody who’s obsessed with it.
Li
Like one person yesterday joked that Dorothy was staring at Joyce’s chest in the flashback panel, one person agreed, and like six people said “no she’s not, obviously”, so I guess that’s people being obsessed with it????
Straximus
Thanks!
Laura
Whoa, cool! Thank you for all these detailed explanations, everyone!
Sirksome
Joyce got kidnapped by Blaine.
HueSatLight
Speaking of strips with no dialogue. https://www.dumbingofage.com/crosscountry-2/
HueSatLight
https://www.dumbingofage.com/fun-3/ also no dialogue
HueSatLight
third one is this scene: https://www.dumbingofage.com/hospital/ (this moment)
https://www.dumbingofage.com/police/ (but from this angle)
Corey C.
Blaine and Toedad kidnapped Joyce, Dorothy, and pretty much half the cast in an effort to get Amazigirl to show up. Dorothy took charge and came up with a plan to escape and expose Blaine. It ALMOST worked, except Dotty didn’t count on Blaine’s spitefulness when cornered with his inevitable arrest and he grabbed Joyce, threw her into a van, and drove off rather than just surrender to the police, like Dotty was expecting.
NGPZ
Oh no, Vietnam Flashback :(
Taffy
You’re never too young.
Needfuldoer
*Fortunate Son intensifies*
Longshot97
First panel = genuinely adorable
Steamweed
Aww, yeah. I remember fondly my co-ed cuddle puddles back in the college days.
Nymph
Still have them now and they are awesome. I think it’s weird how often people forget that humans are tactile social animals. Skin-to-skin contact and physical touch is so important to our moods. You wouldn’t refuse to pet an animal, why stop hugging your friends and laying about all over each other?
clif
No idea, except in my case the people I would do that with are dead now or far away. My current friends don’t do that. Except hugs. Hugs are always nice.
Jerach
Realizing my queer identity and meeting other queer people has definitely helped me engage with that more. Still kinda anxious about asking with new people though ’cause our society sucks.
Pocky
that’s the thing about memories, the bad ones always find a way to creep in.
Benjamin Geiger
Memories can be vile, repulsive little brutes.
Like children, I suppose.
But can we live without them?
Schpoonman
Both my older brothers have kids with one more on the way and I can safely reassess I’ll be extremely happy as the weird uncle who doesn’t talk much they see about once a year.
Nono
Man this is like clearing out your grandma’s closet after she died or something and going through the memories of each outfit.
Akane
Ross!!
darkoneko
Oh hey Walky’s here on one of them. I’m almost surprised.
RassilonTDavros
I feel like I’m missing something obvious re: the empty hanger in the final panel. Is it that the hanger with nothing on it represents her trauma over almost losing Joyce forever during the kidnapping? I feel like there’s a more direct connection that I’m just failing to recognize.
HueSatLight