Unless those regular habits are inherently destructive to the mental well-being of those around you, sure.
BenRG
But not replacing those habits with something new and better? Just apathetically repeating the old behaviours because he doesn’t seem able to think of anything else to do? No, just worrying.
HeySo
Er. While I’m not necessarily opposing your sentiment, your presented logic isn’t really panning out. Much like with drug abuse, simply avoiding a strictly negative behavior is in itself already inherently a positive [ie, “something new and better”]. Or, per your phrasing, “Something good coming from losing the will to continue engaging in regular habits”. Given that fact, I’m a bit confused as to your intended sentiment.
I mean, so far I’m getting the impression that your sentiment is along the lines of “Sure, he stopped murdering people, but really, isn’t his life so unproductive now?”
ProfBluestocking
Let’s phrase it a different way.
One of the signs of serious depression is the loss of interest in engaging in your previous behaviors. Even if your previous behaviors were being a huge dick, the loss of will is a sign of a dangerous level of depression that often ends in suicide.
HeySo
Thanks, that makes the sentiment a lot more clear. 🙂
It’s not a guitar, it’s an ukulele. I have no idea either. The chord progression is F# major – E major – Eflat minor – C# major. Too generic to get you a specific song unless you know Willis’s ukelele repertoire, which I don’t.
@Needfuldoer Danny’s is not actually as generic as the famous I-V-vi-IV progression you linked. 😉
I don’t recognize it, but it has a bit of a quirky/bluesy vibe to it? (The chords C# major and E major don’t fit in the same major scale, whereas most pop chord progressions stay in one key.) My tentative genre guess would be indie or classic rock.
ValdVin is probably just going to use the chord letter names, not the fretboard diagrams below. But interestingly, ukulele chord frettings also work on guitar. Ukes are tuned like the 4 treble strings of a guitar, with a capo on 5th fret.* (Which is why a uke G chord & guitar D chord are fretted the same: 0232)
Although for recognizing a chord progression, the absolute pitch doesn’t matter anyway. (It’s still the same song if you play it in the key of C#, instead of F#.)
* Or 7th fret, if it’s a soprano uke tuned to A-D-B-F#, or no capo if it’s a baritone. Also, usually the 4th string is tuned one octave higher, but that doesn’t really change the chord, only its voicing.
I guess I also have cautious interest. I just feel cautious interest as excitement!!!
…lol jk, but seriously, I love when a well-established asshole character has the possibility of even a glimpse of the long, long, long road to redemption, because… like, what’s the worst that can happen – they screw it up and are still an asshole?? They become MORE of an asshole, which no one would be surprised by at this point? There is all potential gains here, and practically nothing to lose in terms of the realistically expected outcome. Also, in a karmic sense, I think it would be hilarious if Mike slept with Ethan to make Danny jealous, which he was able to accomplish by taking advantage of Ethan’s old attraction to Mike, and accidentally gave HIMSELF feelings that he now doesn’t know what to do with.
From a more nurturing perspective, I would also be looking forward to watching him figure out what the hell to do with that. But also I would really enjoy the irony of the situation, especially because Mike probably has the greatest sense of irony of all the characters here, probably by lightyears, so you just know he’s gotta be beating himself up, all “How the f did you let this happen, Mike?”
Meagan
I like your headcanon of Mike being super self-aware of his ironic and self-inflicted feels.
…I HAVE SO MUCH [circumstantial, but still] EVIDENCE. IF ANYONE CARES I WILL LIST IT ALL OUT, BUT IT IS TOO MUCH WORK IF NO ONE ACTUALLY WANTS TO SEE IT.
…I feel like this is a weird ship to be pulling for but I don’t actually care that much.
A Mike ship strikes me as one of those little children rides outside of big stores. In Mike’s case, put in a nickel, climb on board, enjoy some sounds and motion, then it ends.
geno
I mean he marries Amber in the Dumbiverse does that mean she just kept putting nickels in?
Seregiel
Coin operated boy – Dresden dolls and amber
thejeff
Outrigger canoe?
Khno
It would look like the Titanic: an unrequited crush with an iceberg.
Wait, people are telling me in my earphone that it is crash and not crush.
Well, does it changes so much things with Mike involved?
I am late but yes I am interested. Mike in an unrequited love scenario, liking someone who… has morals and is overall a decent and good hearted person and pushes him to be better? And doesn’t like him back, therefore his perspective doesn’t become skewed by rose colored glasses? I like that
“If that’s annoying you can leave in a huff. If that’s too soon you can leave in a minute and a huff. Do you realize you haven’t stopped talking since I got here? You must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle!” -Marx
At first i was like “how do you know???” And then realized someone has a slipshine subscription. Jealous. I haven’t been able to justify that expense to myself.
vitalProximity
Very late reply so you’ll probably never see this, but oh well: Honestly, I couldn’t really justify it either. But… I did it anyway, because I’m bad at adulting. So like… props to you for your self control.
So I saw this on Patreon yesterday and thought “Hm, I want to put the link to this strip in this ukulele-related document I’m working on” so I waited until this morning to find out what the link was going to be and no I’m not putting it in that document after all…
That party was much more exclusive than this one.
Still, I assume Mike is crashing this party. Becky doesn’t seem to exercising much control over who comes in.
Khno
I was once the sole 20 y.o. at a 17/18y.o party. I ended doing much more door control than partying, let it be said.
I also ended being one of the only useful witnesses when the cops investigated weeks after (about theft only, thankfully)
176 thoughts on “Asshole”
Ana Chronistic
at this point “doing Mike things” constitutes his mere existence
BenRG
I know. I’m kind of worried about him too. Nothing good comes from losing the will to engage in your regular habits.
Delicious Taffy
Unless those regular habits are inherently destructive to the mental well-being of those around you, sure.
BenRG
But not replacing those habits with something new and better? Just apathetically repeating the old behaviours because he doesn’t seem able to think of anything else to do? No, just worrying.
HeySo
Er. While I’m not necessarily opposing your sentiment, your presented logic isn’t really panning out. Much like with drug abuse, simply avoiding a strictly negative behavior is in itself already inherently a positive [ie, “something new and better”]. Or, per your phrasing, “Something good coming from losing the will to continue engaging in regular habits”. Given that fact, I’m a bit confused as to your intended sentiment.
I mean, so far I’m getting the impression that your sentiment is along the lines of “Sure, he stopped murdering people, but really, isn’t his life so unproductive now?”
ProfBluestocking
Let’s phrase it a different way.
One of the signs of serious depression is the loss of interest in engaging in your previous behaviors. Even if your previous behaviors were being a huge dick, the loss of will is a sign of a dangerous level of depression that often ends in suicide.
HeySo
Thanks, that makes the sentiment a lot more clear. 🙂
auroki
And it only cost a nickel
mrnoidea
Beat me to it.
Felix
You’re gosh darn right.
Suet
Nickels. All the nickels.
Sorry, Dan, Dan-nuendos ain’t worth it
Emperor Norton II
Dan gets knocked down
But he gets up again
Mike will never ever keep him down.
DarkoNeko
Dannying the night awayyy
Danielle
lmao
Stephen Bierce
*doesn’t play anything because Danny already is playing something*
Today’s strip is sponsored by Delta Faucets.
ValdVin
What’s he playing? It’s too late to pick up my guitar and try to suss it out.
Marsh Maryrose
It’s not a guitar, it’s an ukulele. I have no idea either. The chord progression is F# major – E major – Eflat minor – C# major. Too generic to get you a specific song unless you know Willis’s ukelele repertoire, which I don’t.
merbrat
Ukeleles tune to: My Dog Has Fleas
ValdVin
I know it’s a uke, but all I have is a guitar.
At any rate, it’s 1am and either would wake my wife up. I’ll have to try it in the morning.
Needfuldoer
So he’s playing just about anything, then?
(I don’t know chords…)
znk
@Needfuldoer Danny’s is not actually as generic as the famous I-V-vi-IV progression you linked. 😉
I don’t recognize it, but it has a bit of a quirky/bluesy vibe to it? (The chords C# major and E major don’t fit in the same major scale, whereas most pop chord progressions stay in one key.) My tentative genre guess would be indie or classic rock.
John
I’d guess “indie” just from the fact that he’s Danny and he’s playing a ukulele.
znk
ValdVin is probably just going to use the chord letter names, not the fretboard diagrams below. But interestingly, ukulele chord frettings also work on guitar. Ukes are tuned like the 4 treble strings of a guitar, with a capo on 5th fret.* (Which is why a uke G chord & guitar D chord are fretted the same: 0232)
Although for recognizing a chord progression, the absolute pitch doesn’t matter anyway. (It’s still the same song if you play it in the key of C#, instead of F#.)
* Or 7th fret, if it’s a soprano uke tuned to A-D-B-F#, or no capo if it’s a baritone. Also, usually the 4th string is tuned one octave higher, but that doesn’t really change the chord, only its voicing.
ValdVin
I will use the chord letter names.
I recognize the similarity between E and F#, also E and Ebm. But it doesn’t ring any bells.
(I must admit when folks talk about alternative tuning on a guitar, or how different ukeleles are tuned different.)
Fred
https://www.hooktheory.com/trends#node=1.b7.6.5&key=F# gives me three options: Stop by the Spice Girls, Weep by by TMBG, and… knowing Danny as we do… the Dragon Roost Island theme from Zelda (Windwalker)
Deanatay
puts on Hey Jealousy by the Gin Blossoms
vitalProximity
MIKE IS BACK
AND WE’RE ACKNOWLEDGING THE THING WITH ETHAN
YESSSSSSSSS
vitalProximity
…is there anyone else who’s actually excited about this storyline, or is it just me? o.O
Kyrik Michalowski
You aren’t alone, though I replace excited with cautious interest because it involves Mike.
Charles Phipps
I’m pretty sure Mike will sleep with Danny at the party.
Thus causing Danny existential angst for abetting cheating.
Agemegos
At? Please let it be “after”. Those college parties are very uncomfortable, and these kids aren’t even high.
Clif
But it’s a joint party.
Miri
That is not correct use of the Quiet Room! Sarah might have to go get her bat.
Delicious Taffy
Kinky.
vitalProximity
I guess I also have cautious interest. I just feel cautious interest as excitement!!!
…lol jk, but seriously, I love when a well-established asshole character has the possibility of even a glimpse of the long, long, long road to redemption, because… like, what’s the worst that can happen – they screw it up and are still an asshole?? They become MORE of an asshole, which no one would be surprised by at this point? There is all potential gains here, and practically nothing to lose in terms of the realistically expected outcome. Also, in a karmic sense, I think it would be hilarious if Mike slept with Ethan to make Danny jealous, which he was able to accomplish by taking advantage of Ethan’s old attraction to Mike, and accidentally gave HIMSELF feelings that he now doesn’t know what to do with.
From a more nurturing perspective, I would also be looking forward to watching him figure out what the hell to do with that. But also I would really enjoy the irony of the situation, especially because Mike probably has the greatest sense of irony of all the characters here, probably by lightyears, so you just know he’s gotta be beating himself up, all “How the f did you let this happen, Mike?”
Meagan
I like your headcanon of Mike being super self-aware of his ironic and self-inflicted feels.
Gallio
Ah, my two favourite characters interacting! I’m hoping for a relationship to develop.
Gallio
I see this dialogue as flirtation.
Delicious Taffy
All dialogue is flirtation. Hell, the two words are just anagrams of each other, anyway.
Bathymetheus
I am not familiar with whatever arcane alphabet you are using.
vitalProximity
It is the ancient and revered alphabet called SLASH GOGGLES. *spooky fingers*
Kyrik Michalowski
This is a surprisingly tame Mike interaction, makes me wonder why Mike is still holding to that agreement. Does Mike actually have feelings for Ethan?
vitalProximity
YES. YES HE DOES.
…I HAVE SO MUCH [circumstantial, but still] EVIDENCE. IF ANYONE CARES I WILL LIST IT ALL OUT, BUT IT IS TOO MUCH WORK IF NO ONE ACTUALLY WANTS TO SEE IT.
…I feel like this is a weird ship to be pulling for but I don’t actually care that much.
vitalProximity
Actually I don’t necessarily ship Ethan liking Mike back necessarily, although I don’t NOT ship it.
Can you ship something one-sided?? I definitely ship Mike liking Ethan. o.O
Kyrik Michalowski
I think you can ship an unrequited love scenario, it is unusual but it can be done.
Needfuldoer
What would that ship look like, anyway? I’m picturing a catamaran missing one of its hulls.
Lone Duck
A Mike ship strikes me as one of those little children rides outside of big stores. In Mike’s case, put in a nickel, climb on board, enjoy some sounds and motion, then it ends.
geno
I mean he marries Amber in the Dumbiverse does that mean she just kept putting nickels in?
Seregiel
Coin operated boy – Dresden dolls and amber
thejeff
Outrigger canoe?
Khno
It would look like the Titanic: an unrequited crush with an iceberg.
Wait, people are telling me in my earphone that it is crash and not crush.
Well, does it changes so much things with Mike involved?
jufreire
I am late but yes I am interested. Mike in an unrequited love scenario, liking someone who… has morals and is overall a decent and good hearted person and pushes him to be better? And doesn’t like him back, therefore his perspective doesn’t become skewed by rose colored glasses? I like that
Zee
*please* give me your evidence I am very much interested
Hazel
Mike is trying not to Mike.
Keulen
Judging by the last panel, he’s not succeeding at it.
thejeff
Mike is Miking by not-Miking.
Liquid Len
But is Danny Danning-up the not-Miking?
HeatherJean
There’s probably something funny about the Mike-and-Ethan thing and “innuendo” but I’m too sleepy to think of it.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
“Love goes out the door when money comes innuendo.” – Marx
anonymsly
“If that’s annoying you can leave in a huff. If that’s too soon you can leave in a minute and a huff. Do you realize you haven’t stopped talking since I got here? You must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle!” -Marx
Dafydd
Well, in-Ethan’s-endo, anyway…
vitalProximity
Actually, it was Mike’s.
Meagan
At first i was like “how do you know???” And then realized someone has a slipshine subscription. Jealous. I haven’t been able to justify that expense to myself.
vitalProximity
Very late reply so you’ll probably never see this, but oh well: Honestly, I couldn’t really justify it either. But… I did it anyway, because I’m bad at adulting. So like… props to you for your self control.
Doctroid
So I saw this on Patreon yesterday and thought “Hm, I want to put the link to this strip in this ukulele-related document I’m working on” so I waited until this morning to find out what the link was going to be and no I’m not putting it in that document after all…
tim gueguen
NOW KISS!!
Other people of course. Because the last person Danny should kiss is Mike.
Regalli
… Why was Mike invited?
No, serious question, who involved in the planning of this party actually wants to spend time with Mike? You didn’t have to let him in, Becky!
abysswatcher1993
Becky doesn’t know many of the people at the party in a personal level, so she probably invited him because he hangs out with Joyce’s group.
ValdVin
He didn’t even pass the test to the last party.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/nice-2/
thejeff
That party was much more exclusive than this one.
Still, I assume Mike is crashing this party. Becky doesn’t seem to exercising much control over who comes in.
Khno
I was once the sole 20 y.o. at a 17/18y.o party. I ended doing much more door control than partying, let it be said.
I also ended being one of the only useful witnesses when the cops investigated weeks after (about theft only, thankfully)
Charles Phipps