Well it doesn’t have to be. On the other hand it can get a lot more complicated than this. Suppose Dorothy had weakened and then regretted it while Imaginary Mike had seized control of Amber.
I wouldn’t expect that anytime soon. Maybe after some more character growth, but the amount of spine it took for him to just give a single statement that his mom hadn’t been treating Sal well tells me that might be a while.
I see it as him testing himself and Dorothy to see if there was still something there. Dorothy turning him down proved that their romance is over, and he needs to focus on Amber and his family issues.
Wait, does the roof symbolise a safe and stable position from which you will eventually have to move because you can’t just live there?
And do the stairs represent the precarious change from one stable state to hopefully a more sustainable one?
Do the car chases embody the concept of running away from your problems while also taking them with you and how dangerous it can be when things come to a head?
Was the kidnapping basement the lowest point for our heroes?
Have I just dangerously galaxy-brained? Should you all keep a safe distance while my mind is blown?
I really want them to make out on garbage roof. I want them to do OTHER things on garbage roof but it’s probably not the best time but I definitely want some garbage snogging.
I don’t know, makeouts/sex after such stressful events might be just the relaxer that they need. Besides, it’s better than talking about/thinking about Amber’s uncertain future at the school.
Wow, the social dysfunction’s gettin’ kinda thick ’round these parts.
Hopefully wacky hijinks will once again ensue pretty soon-ish. I love this comic and, like most here, have a longstanding history with them (or analogues of them).
It kinda actually pains me to see so many of them hurt so deeply and all at the same time.
There’s enough malaise IRL. These students need a break from all the “ugh”!
Bleh to Walky. I still remember how you tried to lowkey get with your ex the same day your “guilty pleasure” friend saved your life. You deserved a day with your shitty parents.
I dunno. After getting kidnapped, then botching guarding the prisoners, then seeing his Mom treat his sister like trash,… I’m not treating any of them too harshly. I can see Walky grabbing for any good feels he can as a way to block out the tragedy that is his life at the moment. He doesn’t even know if his room mate will live through the night.
I’m not judging any of them for flailing at anything to hold onto. They are not well experienced at this level of chaos, except maybe Amber and Sal… and Marcie.
Tragedy? Look I’m not gonna discredit the traumatic event they all went through, but Walky has it relatively easy overall. Like aside from recent events things just kind of work out for him. I’m not even sure how he really feels about Mike. They were not really friends or at least it’s not been depicted as a close relationship.
Yeah, imma gonna call what Walky is living, ATM, a tragedy, because he’s a tragic figure; He fails at everything. He is Unprepared for school (at this academic level), unprepared for love, for an invested adult emotional relationship. He is capable of going to class and getting his meals, but more than that, no, he is totally out of his depth. And doesn’t seem poised to change, to grow to meet his challenges, … and I think that makes him, if not tragic, then at least a doomed figure.
Traditional Greek tragedy required the downfall to be due to the person’s bad choices when they had the potential to do better. In modern times we would look at a story about (say) an innocent child struck by bullets shot through a wall and dying and say “What a tragedy!” but to be Greeks, Tragedy was reserved for failures caused by the self.
I mention this because so far it not clear to me that Walky *could* have done better.
Walky’s smart. He could certainly be doing better at school. Probably couldn’t have kept Dorothy, since that was basically all about her.
Now you could say that his personality and upbringing made it so that he couldn’t put in the work to do better in school, but that’s basically how good tragedy (or any good characterization) works – they could chosen differently, but their choices grow out of who they are, so they really can’t.
That said, I don’t believe this story is a tragedy and I don’t think Walky is doomed. He will grow to meet his challenges. In fact, he already is. He’s just not all the way there yet.
He’s also shown the ability to step up and be very mature on some occasions, so the potential is there, which just makes it all the more frustrating when he doesn’t most of the time.
Yeah, with everything that’s been happening recently (and still is happening), I think that the time has long since come for Walky and Amber to figure out what ‘this’ really is!
1)I will burn down the garbage roof, 2)Walky and Amber must be honest about what they want of their relationship. Do they want love? Do they want sex? Do they want marriage? Do they want benefits? nIf they aren’t honest about what they want the two will hurt each other. Just imagine marrying someone you don’t really love and spending years hating each other, or on the opposite end, loving each other always but not having the guts to be honest about that love.
I think it’s a very casual, no pressure or committment, sort of comfort relationship. “Guilty pleasure” Something you enjoy but maybe feel bad about later. I can appreciate that and I think it works for Amber better since she’s not really mentally composed enough to commit to a serious romance. (As far as my opinion on a fictional character goes anyway). Walky might even be good for that. My problem is the whole “garbage roof” part. They’ve given themselves justfication to act like assholes maybe even to each other if given the chance. Walky did try to get back with his ex the day after heavy grinding with Ambs. Is that okay in this garbage relationship? Who knows?
Sigh. They were such a great couple. But life is cruel…. And Walky has yet to tell Amber that his mom wants to kick her out of college and has the possibility to do it.
Maybe they’re just tired and hungry. Snogging, a Snickers or some sleep might help. Taking a break from your anxieties can make a difference. http://existentialcomics.com/comic/356
“our ‘it’s complicated'”
“idk, garbage doesn’t seem too complicated”
Well it doesn’t have to be. On the other hand it can get a lot more complicated than this. Suppose Dorothy had weakened and then regretted it while Imaginary Mike had seized control of Amber.
The image that conjures in my head is Imaginary!Mike-controlled Amber/Dorothy makeouts.
Garbage can get really complicated if you want to sort it for recycling, though.
I’m in the alt-text and I don’t like it.
Why they gotta come for us like that mang
yup.
either “guilty” or “meaningless and irrelevant and why are you trying to distract yourself from the thing you should be obsessing about right now“
I feel targeted
Yep, so intensely
Alt-text calling me out
Hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha *gasp* ahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha….
Good to see this couple interacting again. I hope Wally fights his parents for Amber.
I wouldn’t expect that anytime soon. Maybe after some more character growth, but the amount of spine it took for him to just give a single statement that his mom hadn’t been treating Sal well tells me that might be a while.
Ah, to be young and unsure whether you’re in love, in like, or in lust.
Well, it’s complicated
Particularly since none of them are mutually exclusive.
And neither of them know if they are, either.
‘or’ can be inclusive?
In logic, yes. ‘Or’ kind of means ‘either’ so regardless of if one or both conditions are met the statement is true.
Well, it’s good Sal has at least one family member willing to stand by her.
Right? It’s great to see Billie standing up for Sal!
Agreed. Though to be fair, it was only because she was her brother’s sister.
I wasn’t the only one who read Walky’s last talk with Dorothy after the kidnapping as him saying he still wanted to be with her right?
I definitely got the vibe feelings were still there, yes.
That’s definitely how she read it. But she isn’t going to let what she wants interfere with her goals.
I see it as him testing himself and Dorothy to see if there was still something there. Dorothy turning him down proved that their romance is over, and he needs to focus on Amber and his family issues.
Garbage roof is back on!
…one of them is going to break up with the other for stupid reasons, aren’t they?
I was thinking the exact same thing honestly, this relationship is too good to not be destroyed by Willis.
They can’t break up (again)! They aren’t on The Stairs!
as long as they stay on the roof they are fine.
Garbage has a certain stability. If you’re expectations are low, it’s hard to be disappointed.
Wait, does the roof symbolise a safe and stable position from which you will eventually have to move because you can’t just live there?
And do the stairs represent the precarious change from one stable state to hopefully a more sustainable one?
Do the car chases embody the concept of running away from your problems while also taking them with you and how dangerous it can be when things come to a head?
Was the kidnapping basement the lowest point for our heroes?
Have I just dangerously galaxy-brained? Should you all keep a safe distance while my mind is blown?
Sure. To all of the above.
There’s only one way to be sure: What does that goddamned Red Semi represent?
*mind blown*
They had better not!
At least let Linda find out first…
I really predicted Walky threatening to leave college if Linda didn’t back off from being mean to amber, but it seems he won’t have to.
Technically they are broken up, they just don’t act like it.
I really want them to make out on garbage roof. I want them to do OTHER things on garbage roof but it’s probably not the best time but I definitely want some garbage snogging.
I don’t know, makeouts/sex after such stressful events might be just the relaxer that they need. Besides, it’s better than talking about/thinking about Amber’s uncertain future at the school.
If they manage to shoot this relationship down before we get a slipshine out of it I’m going to be SO CROSS
If they do I guess I’ll just have to draw it myself…y’know…at my leisure. very slowly. I’d make it kinky as hell though.
You have the power!
Let’s not forget I have done it before
https://imgur.com/a/W3bImzi (NSFW)
You could make a regular feature of it and name it Garbage with Benefits.
That’s really hot! Especially amber’s kinda annoyed expression
That’s great, Yotomoe!
In terms of a Slipshine from Willis, I guess we could already get one for “dry humping to climax” instead of studying?
Nice~ <3
Nah, it’d end up just bein another trashy sex scene.
That would be kinda rubbish
Love will lift us Up Where We Belong…
Mr. Bierce, Where does your extensive knowledge of music come from?
Wow, the social dysfunction’s gettin’ kinda thick ’round these parts.
Hopefully wacky hijinks will once again ensue pretty soon-ish. I love this comic and, like most here, have a longstanding history with them (or analogues of them).
It kinda actually pains me to see so many of them hurt so deeply and all at the same time.
There’s enough malaise IRL. These students need a break from all the “ugh”!
Well, we know the blanket warning extends till June. We just don’t know which June.
What if it’s IN-COMIC June?
Their June.
Which will be something like our 2050.
At which time I’ll be 101. I hope my eyes hold out.
Surviving to 101, I’m less worried about my eyes holding out, than Willis’ ability to draw/create.
#GarbageScowForever
#LongMaySheSail
Garbage Roof love prevails where all others may fade away. Truly this is the relationship we need, if not the one we deserve.
Also what are the odds one of them ends this relationship in the near future?
We really don’t want to know.
I have hope that the SS Garbage Scow will keep sailing for a while longer. Not much hope, but a little at least.
I’ve heard of worse labels!
Bleh to Walky. I still remember how you tried to lowkey get with your ex the same day your “guilty pleasure” friend saved your life. You deserved a day with your shitty parents.
I dunno. After getting kidnapped, then botching guarding the prisoners, then seeing his Mom treat his sister like trash,… I’m not treating any of them too harshly. I can see Walky grabbing for any good feels he can as a way to block out the tragedy that is his life at the moment. He doesn’t even know if his room mate will live through the night.
I’m not judging any of them for flailing at anything to hold onto. They are not well experienced at this level of chaos, except maybe Amber and Sal… and Marcie.
Tragedy? Look I’m not gonna discredit the traumatic event they all went through, but Walky has it relatively easy overall. Like aside from recent events things just kind of work out for him. I’m not even sure how he really feels about Mike. They were not really friends or at least it’s not been depicted as a close relationship.
Yeah, imma gonna call what Walky is living, ATM, a tragedy, because he’s a tragic figure; He fails at everything. He is Unprepared for school (at this academic level), unprepared for love, for an invested adult emotional relationship. He is capable of going to class and getting his meals, but more than that, no, he is totally out of his depth. And doesn’t seem poised to change, to grow to meet his challenges, … and I think that makes him, if not tragic, then at least a doomed figure.
Traditional Greek tragedy required the downfall to be due to the person’s bad choices when they had the potential to do better. In modern times we would look at a story about (say) an innocent child struck by bullets shot through a wall and dying and say “What a tragedy!” but to be Greeks, Tragedy was reserved for failures caused by the self.
I mention this because so far it not clear to me that Walky *could* have done better.
Walky’s smart. He could certainly be doing better at school. Probably couldn’t have kept Dorothy, since that was basically all about her.
Now you could say that his personality and upbringing made it so that he couldn’t put in the work to do better in school, but that’s basically how good tragedy (or any good characterization) works – they could chosen differently, but their choices grow out of who they are, so they really can’t.
That said, I don’t believe this story is a tragedy and I don’t think Walky is doomed. He will grow to meet his challenges. In fact, he already is. He’s just not all the way there yet.
He’s also shown the ability to step up and be very mature on some occasions, so the potential is there, which just makes it all the more frustrating when he doesn’t most of the time.
Did he, though?
Pretty definitely did.
Jeez, ads. Ya order one shirt and suddenly it’s the Leafs merchandise catalogue up in this B.
Hey, for a couple of hundred bucks, I’ll compose you a Go Leaf’s song.
….only if it sounds like Ron Wasserman
So you want the Mighty Morphin Leafs. Pretty sure that Ron Wasserman gets more than a couple of hundred bucks though.
“Oh and I also tried to guilt Dorothy into loving me again. It didn’t take.”
That is a red flag. Walky is slowly becoming like BoJack Horseman, jumping from one relationship to another in the most toxic way possible.
Or Walky’s just still a bit hung up on his ex. Which isn’t great, but hardly a toxic pattern.
I second this, him not being over his first girlfriend and first girl he had a serious romantic feelings for only after a few weeks makes more sense.
Someone will always find the least-charitable interpretation of a character possible.
Alt-text: I thought that was Catholicism and/or Puritanism.
well at least there is an admision of pleasure.
Yeah, with everything that’s been happening recently (and still is happening), I think that the time has long since come for Walky and Amber to figure out what ‘this’ really is!
One of the main appeals with amber for Walky is that he doesn’t have to.
Eh, labels are overrated.
1)I will burn down the garbage roof, 2)Walky and Amber must be honest about what they want of their relationship. Do they want love? Do they want sex? Do they want marriage? Do they want benefits? nIf they aren’t honest about what they want the two will hurt each other. Just imagine marrying someone you don’t really love and spending years hating each other, or on the opposite end, loving each other always but not having the guts to be honest about that love.
It’s been less than 2 weeks. Sure, they’ve got to figure it out, but it’s a bit early to be picturing years of loveless marriage.
I think it’s a very casual, no pressure or committment, sort of comfort relationship. “Guilty pleasure” Something you enjoy but maybe feel bad about later. I can appreciate that and I think it works for Amber better since she’s not really mentally composed enough to commit to a serious romance. (As far as my opinion on a fictional character goes anyway). Walky might even be good for that. My problem is the whole “garbage roof” part. They’ve given themselves justfication to act like assholes maybe even to each other if given the chance. Walky did try to get back with his ex the day after heavy grinding with Ambs. Is that okay in this garbage relationship? Who knows?
It’s already dark outside. That was a very short chapter compared to last one. But hey, at least Ruth got to suplex an old lady.
Off panel! That doesn’t count.
Yeah, really. What’s with that, Willis?
now moosh
“If you have anxiety, all pleasure is guilty” first of all how dare you second, you’re right.
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Sigh. They were such a great couple. But life is cruel…. And Walky has yet to tell Amber that his mom wants to kick her out of college and has the possibility to do it.
“Guilty pleasure” she makes it sound like they’re not happily shameless about it.
Shameless is how you act. Guilty is how you feel. Pleasure is transient. Happiness is a myth.
Eat at Arby’s.
I thought for a moment you were going to end with, “Burmashave”.
and “Cabbage is a vegetable!”…Frank Zappa
Maybe they’re just tired and hungry. Snogging, a Snickers or some sleep might help. Taking a break from your anxieties can make a difference.
http://existentialcomics.com/comic/356
Just a shout-out for the alt-text today
It is truly great.
Also did Jeph and Willis coordinate today or what?
https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4337
Who designed a shirt where starman is depressed and understated?
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