One, despite the protestations of the creators I really have a hard time not seeing Chie and Yukiko in a lesbian relationship. But since they’re both romance options that would probably make them bisexual.
Two, Persona Golden’s epilogue is set a year after the main game, at which point both Yukiko and Chie are 18. So it’s perfectly ok.
Leila
Naww. How it goes down- 15 years later:
Cop Chie comes in and throws her coat down angrily. “All men are shit!”
Narukami: *comes in carrying a dinner tray I’m sorry.
Chie: I- I didn’t mean you! Aw, Yukiko, how did you get so lucky?
Narukami puts down dinner for the ladies and leaves to go back to cooking for the inn.
Chie: I know. We can split Yuu-kun.
Yukikio has a laughing fit. Danny stumbles in accidentally, wearing a towel from the hotsprings.
Yukiko: You could date this random American tourist?
Chie: This inn is even weirder than I remember.
I ship that even more! Danny deserves it! For reasons!
Smiling Cat
Does Rose exist in this universe?
Architex
Yeah, y’all are forgetting Rose. So considering Amber is the brunette clone of Dorothy, and Rose was Amber’s counterpart in retail employment, does that make Rose a crimson copy of Dorothy by association? If so, Danny probably shouldn’t go down that road.
To quote Dark Justice:
(character I don’t know): How do you cope?
Batman: I have a butler.
On a more serious note, he’s only so good at repressing the truth because he’s too busy being a foster father (and real father in Damian’s case) to four teens to actually question himself or his motives. Seriously, Batman has the most hectic family life out of the Justice League members.
I know, so many Robins, all following the same trajectory.
Batman needs a Robin.
Robin is young and Batman is his protector.
Robin is popular, lets make him older and give him his own comic/back up etc.
Wait, Batman and Robin are of legal age and living together. Must be teh gays.
Spin Robin off somewhere else, after a big, existential split/Kill Robin off
Batman needs a Robin.
However, apart from being a fictitious character, I think Bruce deals with his repression thanks to frequent opportunities to punch bad guys in the face. As with AmaziGirl, it is surprisingly cathartic.
About “teh gays”: at this point I’m fairly certain that Joker is gay for Bats. Or at the very least one of the THREE Jokers that exists according to the comics is gay for batman. Probably all three actually. And then Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy are finally officially together in at least two ongoing comics within the multiverse, and they’ve had such good chemistry together since Harley was first introduced in the animated series and first interacted with her. I think batman might actually know the most gay characters out of the main DC heroes.
Makkabee
Given that Wonder Woman grew up on Paradise Island, I don’t think Bruce can finish in better than second place there. Even if we add in Montoya.
Oh yeah. I forgot that Wonder Woman’s an Amazon. Man, I really need to refresh up on the rest of the Justice League outside of Batman. It’s been way too long. Actually, come to think of it I don’t think I’ve actually paid attention to any DC comics not involving Batman since Young Justice got cancelled. Oh well, guess I’ll start paying attention again because season three baby!!
Cerberus
Yeah, Wonder Woman grew up in the equivalent of a lesbian separatist colony as a young bisexual.
thejeff
Which has all sorts of weird implications if you think too much about it – generally a bad idea for decades old superhero origins.
Why are all the Amazons lesbian? Or even bi? Just because they live in an all female environment?
timemonkey
Why else would they agree to live with only women for thousands of years?
To thejeff: It’s complicated. In the original mythology the Amazons did live in an all female society after all the men were wiped out in a war and devoted themselves to becoming an all female society of mounted warriors without peer, going so far as to cut off one breast so it would be easier to draw a bow (which of course is an invention of Greek men because having breasts doesn’t affect archery at all). Of course as they were all warriors they were pretty much by definition what we would nowadays consider bisexual or lesbian. This is because from the Greek view it was accepted, and often expected of warriors to have same-sex relationships with fellow warriors. The city of Thebes in Boetia took it to the extreme of having 300 warriors known as the “Companions” who were 150 gay couples, the reasoning being that putting lovers together would make them a)fight harder to protect one another and b) drive them into a berserker rage if their lover fell. And these guys routinely trounced Spartans and gave Philip of Macedonia his hardest challenge, killing thousands of warriors and fighting to the last. He and his son Alexander the Great and the various Greek successor states after him would all name their bodyguards after that unit. So because it was considered normal for Greek warriors to bed one another the Greeks logically supposed that the mythical Amazons did the same thing. At the same time, the Amazons kept up their numbers and made sure their society survived by routinely going on raids to find strong warriors who they would then capture and sleep with in order to reproduce. If the resulting child was female she was raised as an Amazon, if the child was male they would raise him to adulthood (generally considered 16 or 17 at that time) and then kick him out with directions to the nearest neighboring city state or kingdom. Or they just killed the male children depending on regional variety of the Amazon myth. Now, in order to explain why the Amazons had remained hidden for so many years, and in order to avoid the possibly messy female-on-male rape (which does happen in real life but isn’t as common as male-on-female rape and even less commonly reported do to the pervading cultural notion that a man can’t be raped by a woman) aspect of Amazon number replenishment, the comic writers had Amazons (or at the very least Diana) made out of clay by the gods, put in a mold, and then brought to life by Olympian god fire. Because, you know, reasons. It also helps explains why Amazons are immortal in the DC multiverse. Of course, it’s also slightly implied in some earlier Justice League episodes and I think a couple of comic storylines (if I’m remembering properly) that Diana herself is the daughter of Hades. Interesting note, despite being nominally made of clay by the gods Amazons still apparently have mothers and a Royal line, so I’m guessing Amazons just mix some of their blood into the clay being used in a statue when they want to have a daughter, which makes seem kinda like Amazons are some sort of mold or fungus.
thejeff
Yeah, I think that all falls into “don’t look at it too closely in modern terms”. Myth is one thing (as are superhero backstories), how it would actually work if you took it seriously is another.
Most of that I was at least vaguely aware of, though I’ve kind of lost track on the different variations of the DC Amazons history – last I knew they were all the original immortal Greek ones. Except Diana of course.
Hellespont
I always though the Joker was purely biastophiliac. Assigning anything as normal as homosexuality to him seems, not right. YMMV
Leorale
The Joker’s sexuality is probably like Mike’s: he’s whatever you don’t want him to be.
Lokitsu
That reminds me of something Mark Waid wrote in his 90’s run of The Flash.
Wally asks Pied Piper if the Joker was gay and he replies; “No, the Joker’s always seemed more asexual to me. As far as I know, I’m the only gay supervillain.” That was the first time the readers (and Wally) learned that Piper was gay. My apologies if my quote is a little off. Its been twenty something years and I sold those comics a long time ago.
Killjoy
And then there’s that one who ran for Congress on a conservative-for-convenience platform, and ended up stalking a college professor, and…
Foster father is Dick, Jason, Tim, and Cass and real father is Damian, yes?
That’s like 5 kids. Heck, we’ll throw in Babs and Stephanie as being like nieces, make it 7. Aquaman’s been responsible for 15 over the years.
Hellespont
younare both kind of right.
By my count, all time there is probably 15 in Aquaman’s immediate “family” but that includes Mera, and his brothers. And they definitely haven’t all been around at the same time. Aquaman may well outnumber Bruce’s all time record, but as far as hectic “foster families” go, Bruce has him covered.
Seriously, what is your count for 15? I have Tempest, Aqualad, Aquababy, Aquagirl, Dolphin (stretching things there), Ceridan (grandson) and…?
Last I looked (not including a Rebirth, because we have no idea where that is going to settle yet) Cassandra, Bluejay, Dick, Jason, Tim, Damian, Stephanie and Barbara are all looking to Bruce with a current, mutual feeling of responsibility. Jean-Paul keeps popping up, needing guidance as well.
BBCC
I remember I once got bored and did a tally of it and Aquaman came out with fifteen. This was pre-New 52. I dunno if he’s gained more since. I wrote them down somewhere, I’ll see if I can dig it up later.
Stephanie and Babs have worked with him a lot, but aside from Steph’s brief run as Robin, they never really worked FOR him as a sidekick and they’ve never been adopted by him, hence why I’d say they’re more like nieces than daughters to him. Cass was never really much of a sidekick either (the batgirls tend to be more like independent operatives who work with him but not for him) but he ended up adopting her.
You’re right that Aquaman’s kids aren’t all together though. So for long lasting families, Bruce wins out. But by pure numbers, Arthur’s got him licked.
Hellespont
My Aquaman collection needs work, I have his run in 70s Adventure comics and his subsequent solo series, but only four of the original 60s run of his own title. So, yeah, please dig out that list.
Considering Datb of the Family and various Luther storylines, and Redruk’s saying “hectic family life” I am definitely counting Barbara and Stephanie into the that grouping, whatever subset you wish to apply. All time you would have to add Carrie, Helena and Terry McGinnis.
BBCC
Ooooh, AU kids! Fun! 😀
Aqua man’s kids, as of that list:
1) First Aquagirl (Lisa)
2) Second Aquagirl (name was Selena iirc)
3) Garth
4) Tula
5) Dolphin (I like stretching it. :P)
6) Lorena
7) Arthur Jr.
8) AJ
9) Koryak
10) Lagoon Boy
11) Mareena (his daughter from Terry’s universe)
12) Lagoon Girl
13) Jackson Hyde (Young Justice fans know him as Kaldur)
14) Aquagirl (A different AU)
15) I think the other was Tramm, which is REAAAAAALLLLY stretching it, as he’s on the very periphery of the Aquafamily. I’d argue there’s a stronger case for Dolphin, as she at least goes on several missions with him and eventually became his daughter in law.
Also I have found out about another Aquagirl who was not previously on my list named Jane.
I would count Cerdian, but that’s not a son. That’s a grandson. If we’re counting grandchildren, we’ll have to bring Jason’s sidekick Scarlet into Bruce’s tally. 😛
I forgot about Cass and Stephanie (I’m unfortunately more of casual-medium comic fan) and I’ve never really counted Barbara because of Commissioner Gordon. But who the hell is Bluejay? I’ve never heard of that one.
Hellespont
Bluejay and Cassandra both came into their own as Batsibs in Batman Eternal and Batman and Robin Eternal.
Ok. Wait, do we also count that one sorta clone of Batman that Talia made and who killed Damian in that one storyline? Or is he just too inconsequential in the big scheme of things?
Hellespont
The Heretic? He was a clone of Damian. Considering he never learned from or studied with Batman or fought by his side, I don’t think we can count him. Although, straight DNA would suggest otherwise. Your call, I guess. This is all subjective, anyway.
Oh and I made a mistake calling Bluebird, Bluejay. Bluejay was that guy from JLI.
I always felt sorry for the Heretic. I mean he never really had a chance because Talia was such a bongo (seriously, least favorite love interest for Batman and I want a comic storyline where Damian is Batman and Catwoman’s son and ends up being the Robin for Dick Grayson after Bruce passes the mantle to him, leaving Tim Drake to become the new Nightwing). And at the same time, despite all the League of Shadows brainwashing, accelerated growth, and training from hell, he’s fighting Batman simply because he thinks he (the Heretic” will be a better Batman and do a better job of protecting Gotham, and Talia kills him for it. (I really, really hate Talia al-Ghul.)
thejeff
But Damian is Damian because of that horrific upbringing. That was the whole point of the character – at least in the initial story arc (before he died and was brought back and all that nonsense.)
It was all about Damian learning to be a functional human being and even a kid. Desperate to earn his father’s love with no idea how to go about it. And Bruce, of course, being nearly incapable of showing it.
I always thought it was a “flock”. Turkeys and crows are the only birds I know of that aren’t collectively called “flocks” but instead “gaggle” and “murder” respectively.
Hellespont
Nah, all birds have collective names, from a mob of emus running along, to a gaggle of geese taking off, to the aerie of eagles high overhead.
My favourite one of Sandman story. A Parliament of Rooks.
Greenygal
Google suggests that robins are sufficiently territorial that mostly they don’t have groups to name, hence the need for the online vote. One of the collective-bird-name pages included “a gift of robins” among their possibilities, though, and for this context I quite like that. (Alternately, “a squabble of robins”, for when Bruce has to threaten to stop the Batmobile. 🙂
BBCC
Yeeesss, both of those are great. Breast and Round are apparently the most common though.
Speaking of which – does anyone else see a face in Amber’s neck and collar area in the 5th and 6th panels? Her collarbone is its mouth. The hair over her ear is its bangs. Her neckline defines its chin. It seems to have an eye and a nose.
Could this be a subtle Willis commentary on Amber having more than one aspect? (Probably not.)
299 thoughts on “Blame”
Ana Chronistic
“YES I CAN AND YOU JUST WATCH ME”
“…dang, she DID just do it”
…
*spins the Pokestop* “wait WHAT DO YOU MEAN ‘Try again later’???”
DarkoNeko
He just can’t get a break, even in POkémon.
Hellespont
Yep, the evidence clearly suggests she can.
Clif
Well, yes, but what he really means is that it isn’t effective in escaping from the truth.
Mr. Mendo
Oh, Amber’s a mess…
TheAnonymousGuy
Yea, she’s starting to confuse Danny with Jon snow, that’s not a good sign.
Mr. Mendo
…would that give Danny a free pass to sleep with a redhead?
Pablo360
Unless I’m forgetting someone, the only redhead in the comic who’s into boys is Ruth and god dammit now I’m shipping it
Bagge
There is another alternative, but I wouldn’t recommend it
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/twelvethirty/
Pablo360
DAMMIT NOW I SHIP THAT TOO
NOW IT’S A POLY SHIP
YOU SEE WHAT YOU DID
YES THIS WAS 100% YOUR FAULT, NOT MINE AT ALL, WHAT, I’M NOT BEING DEFENSIVE, YOU’RE BEING DEFENSIVE
Pablo360
WHATEVER, I’M JUST GOING TO GO BACK TO SHIPPING CHIE AND YUKIKO
…
DAMMIT NOW I’M SHIPPING ALL FIVE OF THEM IN ONE BIG HAPPY POLY FAMILY
wait now Penny’s gone, this is fine now
Pablo360
Yes, it’s an older Chie and Yukiko, of course, GAWD
Rukduk
One, despite the protestations of the creators I really have a hard time not seeing Chie and Yukiko in a lesbian relationship. But since they’re both romance options that would probably make them bisexual.
Two, Persona Golden’s epilogue is set a year after the main game, at which point both Yukiko and Chie are 18. So it’s perfectly ok.
Leila
Naww. How it goes down- 15 years later:
Cop Chie comes in and throws her coat down angrily. “All men are shit!”
Narukami: *comes in carrying a dinner tray I’m sorry.
Chie: I- I didn’t mean you! Aw, Yukiko, how did you get so lucky?
Narukami puts down dinner for the ladies and leaves to go back to cooking for the inn.
Chie: I know. We can split Yuu-kun.
Yukikio has a laughing fit. Danny stumbles in accidentally, wearing a towel from the hotsprings.
Yukiko: You could date this random American tourist?
Chie: This inn is even weirder than I remember.
Mr. Mendo
I ship that even more! Danny deserves it! For reasons!
Smiling Cat
Does Rose exist in this universe?
Architex
Yeah, y’all are forgetting Rose. So considering Amber is the brunette clone of Dorothy, and Rose was Amber’s counterpart in retail employment, does that make Rose a crimson copy of Dorothy by association? If so, Danny probably shouldn’t go down that road.
Architex
Jack! Rose!
Emperor Daniel
As long as he gets to feel all depressed about it once the redhead dies in his presence . . . oh my.
Is Ruth destined to play the role of Ygritte?
Rukduk
I thought she already sorta did in Roomies?
Needfuldoer
There is another! (Probably? We don’t know much about her.)
Gwen
Man, Cerberus really called this one
Emperor Daniel
Was about to say just that.
Doopyboop
I was also about to say as much! Cerberus, you get maximum points for this one, hot damn.
Annika
Yeah, Cerberus called it.
Killjoy
Yeah. Even if this isn’t DID, it’s something that Amber really needs to deal with in a far less self-destructive way.
ValdVin
This reminds me of Dorothy telling Joyce of Joyce’s inherent goodness. I hope Amber listens at some point.
butts
You forgot the time she jumped on top of a moving truck
Doctor_Who
“Well you can’t beat up that mugger from the truth!”
“And you can’t rescue that cat from a tree and the truth!”
“Hey, stop mooning me from the truth!”
Jay Eff
*See my comment for more of this*
Bicycle Bill
“You can’t run, flip over a hedge, and somersault onto a roof from the truth!”
“Maybe not, but I can look awesome AF while doing it!”
Jay Eff
“You can’t backflip onto another rooftop from the truth, either!”
AgentKeen
“STOP PARKOURING FROM THE TRUTH”
Hellespont
If you have to avoid the truth, do it like Batman. No one knows repression better.
Rukduk
To quote Dark Justice:
(character I don’t know): How do you cope?
Batman: I have a butler.
On a more serious note, he’s only so good at repressing the truth because he’s too busy being a foster father (and real father in Damian’s case) to four teens to actually question himself or his motives. Seriously, Batman has the most hectic family life out of the Justice League members.
Hellespont
I know, so many Robins, all following the same trajectory.
Batman needs a Robin.
Robin is young and Batman is his protector.
Robin is popular, lets make him older and give him his own comic/back up etc.
Wait, Batman and Robin are of legal age and living together. Must be teh gays.
Spin Robin off somewhere else, after a big, existential split/Kill Robin off
Batman needs a Robin.
However, apart from being a fictitious character, I think Bruce deals with his repression thanks to frequent opportunities to punch bad guys in the face. As with AmaziGirl, it is surprisingly cathartic.
Rukduk
About “teh gays”: at this point I’m fairly certain that Joker is gay for Bats. Or at the very least one of the THREE Jokers that exists according to the comics is gay for batman. Probably all three actually. And then Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy are finally officially together in at least two ongoing comics within the multiverse, and they’ve had such good chemistry together since Harley was first introduced in the animated series and first interacted with her. I think batman might actually know the most gay characters out of the main DC heroes.
Makkabee
Given that Wonder Woman grew up on Paradise Island, I don’t think Bruce can finish in better than second place there. Even if we add in Montoya.
Rukduk
Oh yeah. I forgot that Wonder Woman’s an Amazon. Man, I really need to refresh up on the rest of the Justice League outside of Batman. It’s been way too long. Actually, come to think of it I don’t think I’ve actually paid attention to any DC comics not involving Batman since Young Justice got cancelled. Oh well, guess I’ll start paying attention again because season three baby!!
Cerberus
Yeah, Wonder Woman grew up in the equivalent of a lesbian separatist colony as a young bisexual.
thejeff
Which has all sorts of weird implications if you think too much about it – generally a bad idea for decades old superhero origins.
Why are all the Amazons lesbian? Or even bi? Just because they live in an all female environment?
timemonkey
Why else would they agree to live with only women for thousands of years?
Rukduk
To thejeff: It’s complicated. In the original mythology the Amazons did live in an all female society after all the men were wiped out in a war and devoted themselves to becoming an all female society of mounted warriors without peer, going so far as to cut off one breast so it would be easier to draw a bow (which of course is an invention of Greek men because having breasts doesn’t affect archery at all). Of course as they were all warriors they were pretty much by definition what we would nowadays consider bisexual or lesbian. This is because from the Greek view it was accepted, and often expected of warriors to have same-sex relationships with fellow warriors. The city of Thebes in Boetia took it to the extreme of having 300 warriors known as the “Companions” who were 150 gay couples, the reasoning being that putting lovers together would make them a)fight harder to protect one another and b) drive them into a berserker rage if their lover fell. And these guys routinely trounced Spartans and gave Philip of Macedonia his hardest challenge, killing thousands of warriors and fighting to the last. He and his son Alexander the Great and the various Greek successor states after him would all name their bodyguards after that unit. So because it was considered normal for Greek warriors to bed one another the Greeks logically supposed that the mythical Amazons did the same thing. At the same time, the Amazons kept up their numbers and made sure their society survived by routinely going on raids to find strong warriors who they would then capture and sleep with in order to reproduce. If the resulting child was female she was raised as an Amazon, if the child was male they would raise him to adulthood (generally considered 16 or 17 at that time) and then kick him out with directions to the nearest neighboring city state or kingdom. Or they just killed the male children depending on regional variety of the Amazon myth. Now, in order to explain why the Amazons had remained hidden for so many years, and in order to avoid the possibly messy female-on-male rape (which does happen in real life but isn’t as common as male-on-female rape and even less commonly reported do to the pervading cultural notion that a man can’t be raped by a woman) aspect of Amazon number replenishment, the comic writers had Amazons (or at the very least Diana) made out of clay by the gods, put in a mold, and then brought to life by Olympian god fire. Because, you know, reasons. It also helps explains why Amazons are immortal in the DC multiverse. Of course, it’s also slightly implied in some earlier Justice League episodes and I think a couple of comic storylines (if I’m remembering properly) that Diana herself is the daughter of Hades. Interesting note, despite being nominally made of clay by the gods Amazons still apparently have mothers and a Royal line, so I’m guessing Amazons just mix some of their blood into the clay being used in a statue when they want to have a daughter, which makes seem kinda like Amazons are some sort of mold or fungus.
thejeff
Yeah, I think that all falls into “don’t look at it too closely in modern terms”. Myth is one thing (as are superhero backstories), how it would actually work if you took it seriously is another.
Most of that I was at least vaguely aware of, though I’ve kind of lost track on the different variations of the DC Amazons history – last I knew they were all the original immortal Greek ones. Except Diana of course.
Hellespont
I always though the Joker was purely biastophiliac. Assigning anything as normal as homosexuality to him seems, not right. YMMV
Leorale
The Joker’s sexuality is probably like Mike’s: he’s whatever you don’t want him to be.
Lokitsu
That reminds me of something Mark Waid wrote in his 90’s run of The Flash.
Wally asks Pied Piper if the Joker was gay and he replies; “No, the Joker’s always seemed more asexual to me. As far as I know, I’m the only gay supervillain.” That was the first time the readers (and Wally) learned that Piper was gay. My apologies if my quote is a little off. Its been twenty something years and I sold those comics a long time ago.
Killjoy
And then there’s that one who ran for Congress on a conservative-for-convenience platform, and ended up stalking a college professor, and…
BBCC
Foster father is Dick, Jason, Tim, and Cass and real father is Damian, yes?
That’s like 5 kids. Heck, we’ll throw in Babs and Stephanie as being like nieces, make it 7. Aquaman’s been responsible for 15 over the years.
Hellespont
younare both kind of right.
By my count, all time there is probably 15 in Aquaman’s immediate “family” but that includes Mera, and his brothers. And they definitely haven’t all been around at the same time. Aquaman may well outnumber Bruce’s all time record, but as far as hectic “foster families” go, Bruce has him covered.
Seriously, what is your count for 15? I have Tempest, Aqualad, Aquababy, Aquagirl, Dolphin (stretching things there), Ceridan (grandson) and…?
Last I looked (not including a Rebirth, because we have no idea where that is going to settle yet) Cassandra, Bluejay, Dick, Jason, Tim, Damian, Stephanie and Barbara are all looking to Bruce with a current, mutual feeling of responsibility. Jean-Paul keeps popping up, needing guidance as well.
BBCC
I remember I once got bored and did a tally of it and Aquaman came out with fifteen. This was pre-New 52. I dunno if he’s gained more since. I wrote them down somewhere, I’ll see if I can dig it up later.
Stephanie and Babs have worked with him a lot, but aside from Steph’s brief run as Robin, they never really worked FOR him as a sidekick and they’ve never been adopted by him, hence why I’d say they’re more like nieces than daughters to him. Cass was never really much of a sidekick either (the batgirls tend to be more like independent operatives who work with him but not for him) but he ended up adopting her.
You’re right that Aquaman’s kids aren’t all together though. So for long lasting families, Bruce wins out. But by pure numbers, Arthur’s got him licked.
Hellespont
My Aquaman collection needs work, I have his run in 70s Adventure comics and his subsequent solo series, but only four of the original 60s run of his own title. So, yeah, please dig out that list.
Considering Datb of the Family and various Luther storylines, and Redruk’s saying “hectic family life” I am definitely counting Barbara and Stephanie into the that grouping, whatever subset you wish to apply. All time you would have to add Carrie, Helena and Terry McGinnis.
BBCC
Ooooh, AU kids! Fun! 😀
Aqua man’s kids, as of that list:
1) First Aquagirl (Lisa)
2) Second Aquagirl (name was Selena iirc)
3) Garth
4) Tula
5) Dolphin (I like stretching it. :P)
6) Lorena
7) Arthur Jr.
8) AJ
9) Koryak
10) Lagoon Boy
11) Mareena (his daughter from Terry’s universe)
12) Lagoon Girl
13) Jackson Hyde (Young Justice fans know him as Kaldur)
14) Aquagirl (A different AU)
15) I think the other was Tramm, which is REAAAAAALLLLY stretching it, as he’s on the very periphery of the Aquafamily. I’d argue there’s a stronger case for Dolphin, as she at least goes on several missions with him and eventually became his daughter in law.
Also I have found out about another Aquagirl who was not previously on my list named Jane.
I would count Cerdian, but that’s not a son. That’s a grandson. If we’re counting grandchildren, we’ll have to bring Jason’s sidekick Scarlet into Bruce’s tally. 😛
Rukduk
I forgot about Cass and Stephanie (I’m unfortunately more of casual-medium comic fan) and I’ve never really counted Barbara because of Commissioner Gordon. But who the hell is Bluejay? I’ve never heard of that one.
Hellespont
Bluejay and Cassandra both came into their own as Batsibs in Batman Eternal and Batman and Robin Eternal.
Rukduk
Ok. Wait, do we also count that one sorta clone of Batman that Talia made and who killed Damian in that one storyline? Or is he just too inconsequential in the big scheme of things?
Hellespont
The Heretic? He was a clone of Damian. Considering he never learned from or studied with Batman or fought by his side, I don’t think we can count him. Although, straight DNA would suggest otherwise. Your call, I guess. This is all subjective, anyway.
Oh and I made a mistake calling Bluebird, Bluejay. Bluejay was that guy from JLI.
Rukduk
I always felt sorry for the Heretic. I mean he never really had a chance because Talia was such a bongo (seriously, least favorite love interest for Batman and I want a comic storyline where Damian is Batman and Catwoman’s son and ends up being the Robin for Dick Grayson after Bruce passes the mantle to him, leaving Tim Drake to become the new Nightwing). And at the same time, despite all the League of Shadows brainwashing, accelerated growth, and training from hell, he’s fighting Batman simply because he thinks he (the Heretic” will be a better Batman and do a better job of protecting Gotham, and Talia kills him for it. (I really, really hate Talia al-Ghul.)
thejeff
But Damian is Damian because of that horrific upbringing. That was the whole point of the character – at least in the initial story arc (before he died and was brought back and all that nonsense.)
It was all about Damian learning to be a functional human being and even a kid. Desperate to earn his father’s love with no idea how to go about it. And Bruce, of course, being nearly incapable of showing it.
Hellespont
And what is the collective name for Robins? I just found “Round” and “Breast” but they were the result of an online vote a little while ago.
Rukduk
I always thought it was a “flock”. Turkeys and crows are the only birds I know of that aren’t collectively called “flocks” but instead “gaggle” and “murder” respectively.
Hellespont
Nah, all birds have collective names, from a mob of emus running along, to a gaggle of geese taking off, to the aerie of eagles high overhead.
My favourite one of Sandman story. A Parliament of Rooks.
Greenygal
Google suggests that robins are sufficiently territorial that mostly they don’t have groups to name, hence the need for the online vote. One of the collective-bird-name pages included “a gift of robins” among their possibilities, though, and for this context I quite like that. (Alternately, “a squabble of robins”, for when Bruce has to threaten to stop the Batmobile. 🙂
BBCC
Yeeesss, both of those are great. Breast and Round are apparently the most common though.
Fart Captor
Obviously, the it should be “a mammobomb of Robins”
Chris Phoenix
What do you call a single crow?
Murder One.
Joe Covenant
And two crows are Attempted Murder
Andorxor
I think Magnus has the most childs with 6
Kernanator
The Truth knows parkour too!
caesaria82
Some a+++ faces going on in this strip. I enjoy these faces.
Hellespont
I know, it almost doesn’t need dialogue in most panels, huh?
Chris Phoenix
Speaking of which – does anyone else see a face in Amber’s neck and collar area in the 5th and 6th panels? Her collarbone is its mouth. The hair over her ear is its bangs. Her neckline defines its chin. It seems to have an eye and a nose.
Could this be a subtle Willis commentary on Amber having more than one aspect? (Probably not.)
Positron
I didn’t until you pointed it out – it kind of looks like Danny…
Gwen
Man, This is why I read comments. That’s hilarious. Well, this and all of the insightful commentary into the characters and also the real world.
anonymsly