Given my family history, I’m pretty close to being an expert, and I know that’s not how it works 😛
meep
My mom says that once your an alcoholic, you are always an alcoholic. Even if you get sober, you are an alcoholic recovering for life.
HMH
This is a common thread with addiction recovery strategies, and for all intents and purposes, it seems to be a very beneficial way of thinking about addiction. It doesn’t allow for the kind of fuzzy subconscious logic that makes it so much easier to badly relapse.
Sunfish
Personally, as a recovered addict and as someone with addicts in the family, I hate that line of thinking. I see it in very much the opposite way – if you’re just going to be an addict for life, then what is the point of stopping at all? Recovery without relapse is incredibly unusual. A much more realistic expectation and hope is that one will relapse less and less as one recovers. One has to learn to relapse well, to not let a relapse become full-blown addiction again. Will an addict always bear the psychological scars of their addiction? Yes, absolutely. But should they always define themselves by their addiction? No, that’s doing the exact opposite of what recovery should do – it’s replacing the identity of the addict with their addiction. The most challenging thing about addiction is getting to the underlying causes – biological, chemical, psychological, and healing those factors. Defining a person with addiction is pretty similar to defining someone with the flu. Your body and mind do change forever after having had the flu. You have new antigens, different immune cells, and the experience of going through it. But would you call somebody who has had the flu a recovering flu victim for the rest of her life? Of course you wouldn’t. Nor should you call someone who has had an addiction to alcohol an alcoholic for the rest of their life. Give people hope and let them be people again instead of defining them by their addiction.
BBCC
The flu isn’t a chronic, often long term issue though. Many people with non-addiction but still chronic or long term issues DO consider that part of their identity because it’s not just an experience they’ve had, but affected every aspect of their life long term. Plus many addicts use that line because they are always going to have to try not to relapse or manage their relapses and resist falling back into the addiction cycle. It’s fine to not do that for yourself, sure, and I can see the wisdom in not applying it to people you don’t know feel that way, but it is a real thing I’ve seen many addicts express.
Whether you’re making a sincere statement about what’s happening in the comic or a sarcastic complaint about the direction it’s going, panel 2 invalidates your point.
If you’re making a more general sardonic remark about the way stories tend to portray recovery as a binary, then I have nothing to add, because you’re right.
It doesn’t work that way, unfortunately. I’ve spent way to many years as a functional alcoholic, through periods where I didn’t touch a drop knowing that I was one night away from going right back to a 26er a night. I’ve got it controlled now, drink sparingly … by I’m still, and always will be, an alcoholic.
Just wanted to chime in to add support for this. Non-addicts often don’t realize that addiction is never truly “cured”. The potential for it is ALWAYS there, and it’s not uncommon for addicts to stop one addiction (whether it be drugs, gambling, sex, gaming etc.) only to fall headfirst into a different addiction. Being an addict means always having to keep an eye on yourself and avoiding things that could trigger a relapse.
Yes, the cure for alcoholism is “never again, not even once.” It also means removing the temptation as much as possible.
Sunfish
If it helps them live a meaningful and full life, more power to them. I just question if it is all that true, and if it is really that useful to pretend like alcoholism is so different from using movies or showers or exercise to numb out. The addictive cycle is a real thing, but it’s also simple reward pathway functioning in the brain. It’s more like a slippery slope than an on/off. I think it’s more realistic to see everyone as on an addictive spectrum (in fact – multiple addictive spectrums for many substances) than either an simply an addict or not. Semantics perhaps, but semantics change the way we think about people, and therefore the way we treat them, which can change the courses of their lives.
Not completely. While the point needed to be delivered, that’s a lot of blame being shoved onto Billie. Most of it deserved, mind, but when paired with Billie’s lack of self-esteem… hoo-boy.
Sometimes you have to say something that can negatively impact someone’s mental state to protect your own. You can’t always avoid hurting people.
AntJ
Ruth is much more at risk here than Billie. Billie knows that, which is why she doesn’t respond in panel 6. There’s nothing for her to say. She already told Ruth she would quit, but she never did.
Nono
Billie also has a lot of tragedy-adjacent guilt considering she still has images of Ruth, passed out drunk in her dorm room.
And knowing that she’s being responsible for Ruth not getting better…
The problem is that Billie seems to accept that part of their relationship means that she can avoid getting better. That they can both be toxic together. But she also wants Ruth to get better, and in order for Ruth to get better, Billie has to get better.
Geeky Warrior
I feel like that is a theme of the comic of late. The dangers of merely accepting your issues instead of working on them.
Walky & Amber “We can be garbage up here”, eventually the problems you put off will come back to bite you.
HMH
“Billie also has a lot of tragedy-adjacent guilt considering she still has images of Ruth, passed out drunk in her dorm room.”
Uh, so, are we just glossing over the fact that Billie got shitfaced and literally nearly murdered a person with a car?
Kat
As for the previous conversation about the binary status of “cured”,
There is a reason that the term is “Recovering Alcoholic” and not
“Former Alcoholic.”
And actually, I see where this is going. One of the common things you
hear from AA and other programs designed to help someone quit is that
you have to get away from the things that triggered you to drink and the
enablers. How long before Ruth figures out that Billie is her Enabler, and
decides she has to choose between getting better and having Billie?
A lack of self-esteem that was caused in part by Ruth! Everyone’s at fault and no one’s happy! yaaayyy
Sam
It was not *caused* by Ruth in part or full, Billie’s lack of self-esteem already existed before they even met as her alcoholism problem existed long before this and led to her totaling a car before. Even when acting harmfully, Ruth more just baffled and angered her and didn’t seem to really impact her self-esteem. She didn’t HELP her self-esteem by humiliating her in front of people in the first meeting of the dorm but that didn’t seem to have a real lasting effect since Joyce was soon fawning over her.
I don’t see much blame here. I see mainly Ruth: “I need this behavior to stop.” Billie:”No you don’t, because it’s not so bad!” Really rude, undercutting behavior, especially to someone in a vulnerable situation.
I think there might even be some “Watching you fight to get better makes me feel bad about not getting better, so I will feel better if I pull you back down to my level.”
Jurti
I think you’re spot on. I see Billie as not wanting to change (or put the effort in to change, perhaps) and that it is simply easier for things to go back to status quo with them drinking, etc.
Now, instead of Ruth relapsing into another alcoholic-depressive spiral, Billie’s going to have another reason to label herself as a toxic drama hurricane who ruins everything around her!
. . . Good on Ruth for laying down that law. About her fears of backsliding and how she is trying to be better. She has made amazing progress opening up to Billie and herself.
This.
Ruth is facing the difficulties in her life and trying to muscle through.
Billie is still in denial and hasn’t taken responsibility for herself. “Let the alcohol do the heavy lifting” says it all.
And she said it to Ruth! WTF does she not understand about Ruth’s situation? If she doesn’t get her shit together, Ruth is going to have to break up to save herself.
I get the impression that Billie often thinks that being flippant about something = making it actually be inconsequential. So if she’s all nonchalant about booze, booze can’t hurt her.
And people who think like that try to find other people who think like that to hang out with, because it’s easier to whistle past the graveyard that way.
AntJ
Billie does have a lot of shit to deal with. She was flippant about Linda’s cookies until Carla forced her to think about why she’s favored over Sal, and then she didn’t want them anymore. She’s a bust at journalism, even though it’s her major. She can’t quit alcohol, she doesn’t want to be the responsible one in her relationship, she doesn’t want Ruth to have responsibility either (see: copying her keys), and her new popularity is largely a facade built on degrading lies about her relationship with Ruth. Plus, her family was never there for her on top of it all. It was too much to confront, so she’s learned to ignore it instead and trust that everything will work out. (I tried this once and it failed spectacularly.)
Ruth is trying to break the spiral of depression, so she’s forcing herself to care. This results in fights she’d rather not have, but it’s good to see her standing up for herself.
In Ruth’s ideal of their relationship, they’re sober and support each other. In Billie’s ideal, they get roaring drunk and don’t hurt anybody. But Ruth is becoming less of a depressed mess, and is quickly becoming less “toxic”, to use Billie’s word. Soon enough, she’ll be at a point where Billie CAN ruin her. They need to end their “mutually assured destruction” suicide pact relationship in favor of a normal one as soon as possible.
TK
Honestly, that may not happen.
It would be wonderful if it did, but self-reflective change is difficult, and is often very painful.
As much as I feel for Billie – alcohol was one of the things they had in common, and now that’s being taken away – Ruth is completely in the right here.
Seriously though, even if alcohol didn’t blunt the effects of the medication, you shouldn’t fuck around with combining the two. I was on seizure meds for 16 years and one of the things they started telling me as I became a teenager was ‘no drinking! Your meds and alcohol don’t get along and they will fuck you up if you make them hang out together.’
I may be paraphrasing a little. My neurologists have been really great (though I fucking LOATHED one of their residents who tried to wean me off my meds waaaay too quickly way too soon – my doctor told me she’d done the same thing to one of his other patients and he died from a massive seizure), but not very much of the ‘talking to teens’ variety. XD
Bathymetheus
Wow! I really hope that resident learned not to project their own problems onto patients. Though not before encountering you, apparently.
BBCC
My doctor said she was following the newest advice in the textbooks (like weaning off meds if you’ve been seizure free for a couple years) but went way too fast for someone who’d been on them over a decade.
glad this is happening. the hope is billie will make the good decision going forward, but i really can’t tell whether she’ll nudge alcohol out of her life entirely for the sake of her and ruth or whether she’ll continue to drink.
she isn’t, but ruth may as well have. one of ruth and billie’s common grounds is drinking, and if ruth wants to stop being tempted to drink, billie might see that as someone telling her to stop drinking.
BBCC
Not necessarily. Billie can always drink when Ruth’s not around, even if Billie’s invested in not having alcohol in Ruth’s living space.
Leorale
Billie’s in denial, but she also really likes fixing things.
A likely annoying-but-positive Billie reaction: to become overbearing about removing all alcohol from Ruth’s presence. Possibly by drinking it.
PS my housemates are having really loud sexy times right now and it’s very appropriate for a Billie/Ruth comic.
If you knock on their door really loud and angrily tell them to turn up the volume, you might confuse them enough to make them chill out.
Leorale
I could blow my nose or something to show them that the walls are thin. But I don’t need to make them self-conscious — I live on a city, it’s on me to get headphones, I just think it’s funny.
Emily
Well, they live in close proximity to others so it’s at least partially on them to maybe be less loud about their fucking.
El Chupacabre
Having lived in places where the walls are very thin, there really isn’t a volume level for sex that makes it comfortable to be the neighbor. It isn’t a great situation for anyone, but I think Leorale is right–music is the best way to make middle ground.
Drunk Mike
You can be as loud the hell you want… when you’re makin loovvveee.
thejeff
If I recall my dormroom/crappy apartment days, I think the proper response is clapping and cheering the performance when it reaches the climax.
Probably not. If someone yelling at them was enough to get an alcoholic to stop drinking, it wouldn’t be such a problem. I just really hope she stops bothering Ruth with that.
Do we know what medication Ruth is on? I know it doesn’t really matter because the experiences of them can be so different for different people and also this is a work of fiction, but as someone also medicated for depression, I’m curious.
Well, Serotonin re-uptake inhibitors typically work on that time frame, and are frequently used as anti-depressants. But I think Mr. Willis is wise not to specify.
BBCC
Well, huh, the Willis hath answered.
Apparently they’re a fictional brand.
NotPiffany
Especially since it’s pretty common to have to try a few different meds before you find the one(s) that work with your individual brain.
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Ana Chronistic
“I was just thinking I could use a drink–”
“WHAT DID I JUST SAY”
“–OF WATER”
*glare*
“a tall drink of water… in bed”
Stephen Bierce
Gimme Some Water
I took a femur from a man on the Mexican border…
Bruceski
I grew up in the desert and water was the first go-to for any ailment. Even when it wasn’t the issue it tended to make any issues worse.
Made for an interesting time in college when I’d forget to hydrate and heavily sigh “I need a drink.”
AnvilPro
And now they’re not alcoholics 🙂
Beef
I’m no expert but I don’t think that’s how it works
JetstreamGW
Given my family history, I’m pretty close to being an expert, and I know that’s not how it works 😛
meep
My mom says that once your an alcoholic, you are always an alcoholic. Even if you get sober, you are an alcoholic recovering for life.
HMH
This is a common thread with addiction recovery strategies, and for all intents and purposes, it seems to be a very beneficial way of thinking about addiction. It doesn’t allow for the kind of fuzzy subconscious logic that makes it so much easier to badly relapse.
Sunfish
Personally, as a recovered addict and as someone with addicts in the family, I hate that line of thinking. I see it in very much the opposite way – if you’re just going to be an addict for life, then what is the point of stopping at all? Recovery without relapse is incredibly unusual. A much more realistic expectation and hope is that one will relapse less and less as one recovers. One has to learn to relapse well, to not let a relapse become full-blown addiction again. Will an addict always bear the psychological scars of their addiction? Yes, absolutely. But should they always define themselves by their addiction? No, that’s doing the exact opposite of what recovery should do – it’s replacing the identity of the addict with their addiction. The most challenging thing about addiction is getting to the underlying causes – biological, chemical, psychological, and healing those factors. Defining a person with addiction is pretty similar to defining someone with the flu. Your body and mind do change forever after having had the flu. You have new antigens, different immune cells, and the experience of going through it. But would you call somebody who has had the flu a recovering flu victim for the rest of her life? Of course you wouldn’t. Nor should you call someone who has had an addiction to alcohol an alcoholic for the rest of their life. Give people hope and let them be people again instead of defining them by their addiction.
BBCC
The flu isn’t a chronic, often long term issue though. Many people with non-addiction but still chronic or long term issues DO consider that part of their identity because it’s not just an experience they’ve had, but affected every aspect of their life long term. Plus many addicts use that line because they are always going to have to try not to relapse or manage their relapses and resist falling back into the addiction cycle. It’s fine to not do that for yourself, sure, and I can see the wisdom in not applying it to people you don’t know feel that way, but it is a real thing I’ve seen many addicts express.
Pablo360
Whether you’re making a sincere statement about what’s happening in the comic or a sarcastic complaint about the direction it’s going, panel 2 invalidates your point.
If you’re making a more general sardonic remark about the way stories tend to portray recovery as a binary, then I have nothing to add, because you’re right.
Dark
I’m pretty sure they’re making a joke.
Pablo360
Hence two of the three options I outlined are jokes.
Dunedon
It doesn’t work that way, unfortunately. I’ve spent way to many years as a functional alcoholic, through periods where I didn’t touch a drop knowing that I was one night away from going right back to a 26er a night. I’ve got it controlled now, drink sparingly … by I’m still, and always will be, an alcoholic.
Zaxares
Just wanted to chime in to add support for this. Non-addicts often don’t realize that addiction is never truly “cured”. The potential for it is ALWAYS there, and it’s not uncommon for addicts to stop one addiction (whether it be drugs, gambling, sex, gaming etc.) only to fall headfirst into a different addiction. Being an addict means always having to keep an eye on yourself and avoiding things that could trigger a relapse.
C.T Phipps
Yes, the cure for alcoholism is “never again, not even once.” It also means removing the temptation as much as possible.
Sunfish
If it helps them live a meaningful and full life, more power to them. I just question if it is all that true, and if it is really that useful to pretend like alcoholism is so different from using movies or showers or exercise to numb out. The addictive cycle is a real thing, but it’s also simple reward pathway functioning in the brain. It’s more like a slippery slope than an on/off. I think it’s more realistic to see everyone as on an addictive spectrum (in fact – multiple addictive spectrums for many substances) than either an simply an addict or not. Semantics perhaps, but semantics change the way we think about people, and therefore the way we treat them, which can change the courses of their lives.
BarerMender
A 26er?
Agemegos
26-fluid-ounce (750mL) bottle, I imagine. A fifth of a US gallon
StClair
Thus the term, “a fifth of [liquor]”.
Ana Chronistic
Unavowed treats this amazingly well, the alcoholic character has been sober for years, “and with luck, one day more.”
DarkoNeko
…This is sorta going better than I feared.
Nono
Not completely. While the point needed to be delivered, that’s a lot of blame being shoved onto Billie. Most of it deserved, mind, but when paired with Billie’s lack of self-esteem… hoo-boy.
Sam
Sometimes you have to say something that can negatively impact someone’s mental state to protect your own. You can’t always avoid hurting people.
AntJ
Ruth is much more at risk here than Billie. Billie knows that, which is why she doesn’t respond in panel 6. There’s nothing for her to say. She already told Ruth she would quit, but she never did.
Nono
Billie also has a lot of tragedy-adjacent guilt considering she still has images of Ruth, passed out drunk in her dorm room.
And knowing that she’s being responsible for Ruth not getting better…
The problem is that Billie seems to accept that part of their relationship means that she can avoid getting better. That they can both be toxic together. But she also wants Ruth to get better, and in order for Ruth to get better, Billie has to get better.
Geeky Warrior
I feel like that is a theme of the comic of late. The dangers of merely accepting your issues instead of working on them.
Walky & Amber “We can be garbage up here”, eventually the problems you put off will come back to bite you.
HMH
“Billie also has a lot of tragedy-adjacent guilt considering she still has images of Ruth, passed out drunk in her dorm room.”
Uh, so, are we just glossing over the fact that Billie got shitfaced and literally nearly murdered a person with a car?
Kat
As for the previous conversation about the binary status of “cured”,
There is a reason that the term is “Recovering Alcoholic” and not
“Former Alcoholic.”
And actually, I see where this is going. One of the common things you
hear from AA and other programs designed to help someone quit is that
you have to get away from the things that triggered you to drink and the
enablers. How long before Ruth figures out that Billie is her Enabler, and
decides she has to choose between getting better and having Billie?
Proto
A lack of self-esteem that was caused in part by Ruth! Everyone’s at fault and no one’s happy! yaaayyy
Sam
It was not *caused* by Ruth in part or full, Billie’s lack of self-esteem already existed before they even met as her alcoholism problem existed long before this and led to her totaling a car before. Even when acting harmfully, Ruth more just baffled and angered her and didn’t seem to really impact her self-esteem. She didn’t HELP her self-esteem by humiliating her in front of people in the first meeting of the dorm but that didn’t seem to have a real lasting effect since Joyce was soon fawning over her.
Shane Wegner
I don’t see much blame here. I see mainly Ruth: “I need this behavior to stop.” Billie:”No you don’t, because it’s not so bad!” Really rude, undercutting behavior, especially to someone in a vulnerable situation.
I think there might even be some “Watching you fight to get better makes me feel bad about not getting better, so I will feel better if I pull you back down to my level.”
Jurti
I think you’re spot on. I see Billie as not wanting to change (or put the effort in to change, perhaps) and that it is simply easier for things to go back to status quo with them drinking, etc.
Pablo360
Now, instead of Ruth relapsing into another alcoholic-depressive spiral, Billie’s going to have another reason to label herself as a toxic drama hurricane who ruins everything around her!
Keulen
Don’t worry, there’s plenty of time for it to get worse again.
William Leonard Reese Jr.
. . . Good on Ruth for laying down that law. About her fears of backsliding and how she is trying to be better. She has made amazing progress opening up to Billie and herself.
BigDogLittleCat
This.
Ruth is facing the difficulties in her life and trying to muscle through.
Billie is still in denial and hasn’t taken responsibility for herself. “Let the alcohol do the heavy lifting” says it all.
And she said it to Ruth! WTF does she not understand about Ruth’s situation? If she doesn’t get her shit together, Ruth is going to have to break up to save herself.
Jenny Islander
I get the impression that Billie often thinks that being flippant about something = making it actually be inconsequential. So if she’s all nonchalant about booze, booze can’t hurt her.
And people who think like that try to find other people who think like that to hang out with, because it’s easier to whistle past the graveyard that way.
AntJ
Billie does have a lot of shit to deal with. She was flippant about Linda’s cookies until Carla forced her to think about why she’s favored over Sal, and then she didn’t want them anymore. She’s a bust at journalism, even though it’s her major. She can’t quit alcohol, she doesn’t want to be the responsible one in her relationship, she doesn’t want Ruth to have responsibility either (see: copying her keys), and her new popularity is largely a facade built on degrading lies about her relationship with Ruth. Plus, her family was never there for her on top of it all. It was too much to confront, so she’s learned to ignore it instead and trust that everything will work out. (I tried this once and it failed spectacularly.)
Ruth is trying to break the spiral of depression, so she’s forcing herself to care. This results in fights she’d rather not have, but it’s good to see her standing up for herself.
In Ruth’s ideal of their relationship, they’re sober and support each other. In Billie’s ideal, they get roaring drunk and don’t hurt anybody. But Ruth is becoming less of a depressed mess, and is quickly becoming less “toxic”, to use Billie’s word. Soon enough, she’ll be at a point where Billie CAN ruin her. They need to end their “mutually assured destruction” suicide pact relationship in favor of a normal one as soon as possible.
TK
Honestly, that may not happen.
It would be wonderful if it did, but self-reflective change is difficult, and is often very painful.
Nono
As much as I feel for Billie – alcohol was one of the things they had in common, and now that’s being taken away – Ruth is completely in the right here.
BBCC
Thank you, Ruth!
Seriously though, even if alcohol didn’t blunt the effects of the medication, you shouldn’t fuck around with combining the two. I was on seizure meds for 16 years and one of the things they started telling me as I became a teenager was ‘no drinking! Your meds and alcohol don’t get along and they will fuck you up if you make them hang out together.’
Bathymetheus
Sounds like your health advisor knew how to talk to teens!
BBCC
I may be paraphrasing a little. My neurologists have been really great (though I fucking LOATHED one of their residents who tried to wean me off my meds waaaay too quickly way too soon – my doctor told me she’d done the same thing to one of his other patients and he died from a massive seizure), but not very much of the ‘talking to teens’ variety. XD
Bathymetheus
Wow! I really hope that resident learned not to project their own problems onto patients. Though not before encountering you, apparently.
BBCC
My doctor said she was following the newest advice in the textbooks (like weaning off meds if you’ve been seizure free for a couple years) but went way too fast for someone who’d been on them over a decade.
shadowcell
blunts! i get it! ha ha!…ha!…ha…
Bathymetheus
Joyce avatar does NOT work for that comment.
Gwen
I dunno, I can see Joyce having learned that word, like, yesterday and being pleased to recognize it in context
Danielle
glad this is happening. the hope is billie will make the good decision going forward, but i really can’t tell whether she’ll nudge alcohol out of her life entirely for the sake of her and ruth or whether she’ll continue to drink.
BBCC
Ruth’s not even asking Billie to stop drinking – she’s asking Billie to stop trying to get Ruth to drink.
Danielle
she isn’t, but ruth may as well have. one of ruth and billie’s common grounds is drinking, and if ruth wants to stop being tempted to drink, billie might see that as someone telling her to stop drinking.
BBCC
Not necessarily. Billie can always drink when Ruth’s not around, even if Billie’s invested in not having alcohol in Ruth’s living space.
Leorale
Billie’s in denial, but she also really likes fixing things.
A likely annoying-but-positive Billie reaction: to become overbearing about removing all alcohol from Ruth’s presence. Possibly by drinking it.
PS my housemates are having really loud sexy times right now and it’s very appropriate for a Billie/Ruth comic.
BBCC
That sounds like a very Billie solution for sure.
Opus the Poet
Loud sexy times is a solution for many things.
Delicious Taffy
If you knock on their door really loud and angrily tell them to turn up the volume, you might confuse them enough to make them chill out.
Leorale
I could blow my nose or something to show them that the walls are thin. But I don’t need to make them self-conscious — I live on a city, it’s on me to get headphones, I just think it’s funny.
Emily
Well, they live in close proximity to others so it’s at least partially on them to maybe be less loud about their fucking.
El Chupacabre
Having lived in places where the walls are very thin, there really isn’t a volume level for sex that makes it comfortable to be the neighbor. It isn’t a great situation for anyone, but I think Leorale is right–music is the best way to make middle ground.
Drunk Mike
You can be as loud the hell you want… when you’re makin loovvveee.
thejeff
If I recall my dormroom/crappy apartment days, I think the proper response is clapping and cheering the performance when it reaches the climax.
C.T Phipps
I’m inclined to believe Ruth will want Billie to stop drinking because she wouldn’t want her to be an unrecovering alcoholic.
Alanari
Probably not. If someone yelling at them was enough to get an alcoholic to stop drinking, it wouldn’t be such a problem. I just really hope she stops bothering Ruth with that.
Ashley
*standing ovation to Ruth for making her feelings clear*
ValdVin
Seconded. Some anvils need to be dropped, goes the trope.
Yumi
Do we know what medication Ruth is on? I know it doesn’t really matter because the experiences of them can be so different for different people and also this is a work of fiction, but as someone also medicated for depression, I’m curious.
BBCC
I don’t believe we’ve ever been given specifics. All we know is they take about two weeks-ish and apparently they’re blunted by alcohol.
I have no idea how much that does or doesn’t narrow it down.
Bathymetheus
Well, Serotonin re-uptake inhibitors typically work on that time frame, and are frequently used as anti-depressants. But I think Mr. Willis is wise not to specify.
BBCC
Well, huh, the Willis hath answered.
Apparently they’re a fictional brand.
NotPiffany
Especially since it’s pretty common to have to try a few different meds before you find the one(s) that work with your individual brain.