Other equally dangerous options but not offensive to Christians: Lord English, the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors, Aldrich the Devourer of Gods, Izalith, the Chaos Gods, the Old Gods of the Tevinter Empire, the Daedric Princes, the Cheese, the Wild Hunt, etc.
Interestingly enough, if you Google “Alice Marble Gray”, the only result is a link to the eponymous song by the band Califone. I found this song on YouTube, listened to it, and am no more enlightened as to the nature of the legend.
Jim
My bad, I didn’t notice that Marsh’s text was a link… I am suitably educated now.
However, it’s weird that when I Googled Alice Marble Gray the Diana of the Dunes article didn’t show up.
Jim
This is probably beating a dead horse, but I did a little more digging and found that the problem was actually the fact that her name was apparently Alice MABEL Gray. You get lots of results if you search that name…
Marsh Maryrose
Interesting. I was doing a search for Indiana folk lore and apparently I glommed on to the one document that had this wrong name.
I chose her because Indiana Dunes is about 30 miles from La Porte, Joyce’s home town.
Marvel fans, and jews, and BLM and a lot of other people should.
Why again is this fashist organisation of pop culture so popular? Joker, Harley, Luthor, Loki okay – but why those nazis?
thejeff
Because Nazis (or even pseudoNazis) make good bad guys.
And Jews and BLM and others would only be offended if they were enough of a Marvel fan to know what you’re talking about. Most would probably just be confused.
Offending a Christian has about the same consequences as offending a Marvel fan. Someone will bluster a few quotes attached to silly names at you, you’ll ignore them, and they’ll slink off to resume monopolising your media.
No, she’s helping because everyone else can’t figure out what to do and she’s too exasperated to put up with overhearing them not figure it out so she’ll just do it so that it’s over with. This is normal.
Joyce being an edgelord and not answering her phone has been one of the few reasons all of this happened. If Sarah tells her Hank has been trying to contact her to warn her about Toedad and Blaine, then Joyce will realise hse is in part responsible for Mike’s funeral in another comic series.
I think the edgelord comment is unrelated to not answering her phone. They might be referring to her attitude with Becky at the party?
abysswatcher1993
That too. After Joyce tried to break up a couple and realised she is capable of evil, she began talking shit about ideals and common decency just because she can’t accept she is a flawed human like everyone else and should accept she can make mistakes. Also, she has been avoided talking with her family for days, even Jocelyn, who she only talked to because Ethan convinced her to. I have been in college and even with my crankiness and atheism I always made sure to talk at least once with my mom to make sure I was safe. What Joyce has been doing isnt helping her case of her mom wanting her to be back home, even if Carol is a bongo.
BBCC
No, what she said was that another thing her church taught her was full of shit (namely, that atheists can do whatever they want without any consequences whatsoever because no god. She realized this was full of crap because other people still have feelings and she still cared about them. Which, ah, kinda screws with the idea she’s rejecting common decency and can’t accept she’s flawed and makes mistakes but okay). She also said that since everything else they’ve taught her was full of crap, why not sexual purity? Which – good! Sexual purity and the idea you need a god to be a moral person ARE full of crap teachings and she’s absolutely right to reject them. That’s not being an edge lord. Hell, even calling her community ‘BSing b-holes’ isn’t exactly nice, but she’s still not exactly WRONG. They were BSing. The fact they sincerely believed their BS doesn’t mean they weren’t peddling bullshit and Joyce is entirely in her rights to be angry at them for ingraining it into her.
Also, she called Jocelyne like three days ago, in universe. Yes, after Ethan prompted her to, but sue the girl for not wanting to talk to her (so far as she knows) hyper religious family about her religious doubts. ESPECIALLY since the possibility of her being corrupted is EXACTLY why her mom wants to pull her out and her dad’s only defence (that she heard) was that she was ‘stronger’ than that. Considering her reasons for not answering were not feeling like it and living in mortal fear of her dad’s judgement, I don’t think it’s wrong not to answer. Family can be bad for you, even the well meaning ones like Hank. Joyce even said if it were important (like needing to know if she’s safe), her dad would’ve texted her, so it’s not like she’s missing anything vital.
Norah
At least talk to her dad, who’s a reasonable person. And Jocelyne. I didn’t realize she’d been ignoring her too.
BBCC
That’s only because she wasn’t. Joyce called Joss, not the other way around. It was at Ethan’s prompting but so far as I recall, she hasn’t been ignoring Joss. And Hank’s generally reasonable nowadays, but he’s got 18 years worth of BS being pounded into Joyce’s head. She doesn’t really want to talk to him. She’s already said he’d send a text if it was important, so she has no reason to think this is something vital.
Not answering your phone to preserve your mental health is a fucking great call (though I recommend communicating on needing space for a bit, but that’s hard). Not only is it not being an edge lord, I’m somewhat judgemental at her being pressured into this. It’s not massively less emotional labour to have your friends take the call, and more likely to evoke drama.
The fact I know this is probably serious is irrelevant.
To be honest, I think we’ve really lost sight of what “emotional labor” actually is when we’re using it to describe being distant and immature towards people who love you. Barring actual abusive situations, ghosting someone is never valid and it’s not “self-care”. Joyce isn’t a bad person, but refusing to answer all day without so much as a quick check-in or texted, “Hey, I’m okay, can’t talk right now” is not a really adult thing to do.
(I will fight for the reclamation of the term “emotional labor” even as all of my enemies gather at the gates. It’s not the same thing as emotion work! FIGHT ME, Jeff Bezos.)
Yenklette
I’m not actually really judging Joyce for this, to be clear, I just think we’re a little too flippant about branding unhealthy habits as “self-care”. You know what’s real self-care? Taking care of Future You. Eating ten cookies is not self-care. Cooking a healthy meal is self-care.
Meagan
Preach! So happy to run into someone who knows about the difference between emotional labor and emotional work.
BBCC
Different things can be healthy in different ways. Eating ten cookies at once one day because you’re depressed and cookies make you happy might not be good for your stomach, but it can be good for your mental health. And honestly, if it’s not happening super frequently, it probably won’t actually do too much harm.
Madock345
Ghosting also implies an extended time period. It’s been one day. Anyone should be able to cut cords for one day.
142 thoughts on “Brainspace”
Ana Chronistic
“How about Lilith? Lilith ok? Cthulhu? Crom?”
Stephen Bierce
“Crom laughs at your ‘four winds’!”
Doctor_Who
Hmmm, demon Lilith? Or Firehawk Lilith? Because Firehawk Lilith is pretty badass.
Abel Undercity
Frasier’s Lilith. Because Bebe Neuwirth is awesome.
Doctor_Who
No argument here.
abysswatcher1993
Other equally dangerous options but not offensive to Christians: Lord English, the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors, Aldrich the Devourer of Gods, Izalith, the Chaos Gods, the Old Gods of the Tevinter Empire, the Daedric Princes, the Cheese, the Wild Hunt, etc.
Marsh Maryrose
Knowing her northern Indiana folklore, Sarah says, “Hi, this is Alice Marble Gray“
Jim
Interestingly enough, if you Google “Alice Marble Gray”, the only result is a link to the eponymous song by the band Califone. I found this song on YouTube, listened to it, and am no more enlightened as to the nature of the legend.
Jim
My bad, I didn’t notice that Marsh’s text was a link… I am suitably educated now.
However, it’s weird that when I Googled Alice Marble Gray the Diana of the Dunes article didn’t show up.
Jim
This is probably beating a dead horse, but I did a little more digging and found that the problem was actually the fact that her name was apparently Alice MABEL Gray. You get lots of results if you search that name…
Marsh Maryrose
Interesting. I was doing a search for Indiana folk lore and apparently I glommed on to the one document that had this wrong name.
I chose her because Indiana Dunes is about 30 miles from La Porte, Joyce’s home town.
Ed Rhodes
Dang!
Doctor_Who
Sarah: “Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!”
Plot twist: Hank enthusiastically joins in.
King Daniel
Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu B’loomngtn wgah’nagl fhtagn
abysswatcher1993
Those pesky cultists from Innsmouth. This is Indiana’s University, not Mistkatonic.
DSL
I’ll have a gin and Miskatonic.
Needfuldoer
nuq Dajatlh jIyajbe’.
nobodybasically
Slowly, imperceptibly, Sarah becomes the new Mike.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
When they cast him down he became more powerful that they could possibly imagine.
abysswatcher1993
Mike the White… privileged douchebag.
Reltzik
Plot twist: As soon as she’s committed to that path, the real Mike shows up again like nothing ever happened.
abysswatcher1993
This isn’t Shortpacked.
clif
No, this is the version where the Head Alien has been so successful that no-one believes he exists outside of a cartoon.
HeySo
So the version where Head Alien has even the most basic level of competence, then. 😛
shadowcell
Dumbing of Age Book 10: ALL HAIL SATAN! [click]
Kyoulkoa
DoA Book 10:…………wWWWell NOW I definitely can’t promise that.
Keulen
DoA Book 10: I Don’t Got the Brainspace For Family Stuff Right Now!
Ana Chronistic
Dumbing of Age Book 10: BBZZT BBZZT
Nono
I too, hope to know someone someday where I can answer a phone call for them, snarl “All Hail Satan”, and hang up.
clif
Know thyself.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
“Hail Hydra!”
abysswatcher1993
That will only offend Marvel fans, not Christians.
clif
Cut off one Marvel fan and ten more will take their place.
Lars
Marvel fans, and jews, and BLM and a lot of other people should.
Why again is this fashist organisation of pop culture so popular? Joker, Harley, Luthor, Loki okay – but why those nazis?
thejeff
Because Nazis (or even pseudoNazis) make good bad guys.
And Jews and BLM and others would only be offended if they were enough of a Marvel fan to know what you’re talking about. Most would probably just be confused.
Delicious Taffy
Offending a Christian has about the same consequences as offending a Marvel fan. Someone will bluster a few quotes attached to silly names at you, you’ll ignore them, and they’ll slink off to resume monopolising your media.
vlademir1
To quote Lindsay Ellis, “Hail Hang Glider!”
Mada
Ahhh, memories.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/answer-2/
Keulen
I swear Willis is deliberately reminding us that he still hasn’t revealed what happened to Mike yet by referencing that strip.
clif
Yes, that’s the joke.
Stephen Bierce
*plays Chris Isaak’s “Wicked Game” on the hacked Muzak, followed by “You Can’t Do A Thing To Stop Me”*
Wizard
*slips in the HIM cover* ’cause extra sinister
Kyrik Michalowski
Not going to lie, snarling “All hail Satan” to her dad sounds like fun to me. Clearly she has to do it now.
Robbie
Mike did that once iirc
Kamino Neko
It was her mom, IIRC, but, yeah.
jufreire
Thank you! I was really trying to remember who did that before or if I was imagining stuff. Huh. That reference to Mike is a bit ominous now
anonymousethatscurriesinthedarkness
The big reveal is that Mike is in the fridge.
When they discover him …..
“Close the damn door, I’m chill-in here!”
Bagge
“Young lady, you tell me immediately why my phone tries to connect to my fridge.”
DailyBrad
“They’re in love, duh.”
BBCC
See, Joyce, she probably wouldn’t have but then you went and said it.
Bagge
Sarah is helping!
This is a strange experiene for everyone involved.
Reltzik
No, she’s helping because everyone else can’t figure out what to do and she’s too exasperated to put up with overhearing them not figure it out so she’ll just do it so that it’s over with. This is normal.
anonymousethatscurriesinthedarkness
This is DOA, there is no normal.
thejeff
Pretty much. Sarah is grumpy, but helpful behind that mask.
abysswatcher1993
Joyce being an edgelord and not answering her phone has been one of the few reasons all of this happened. If Sarah tells her Hank has been trying to contact her to warn her about Toedad and Blaine, then Joyce will realise hse is in part responsible for Mike’s funeral in another comic series.
abysswatcher1993
I am not a consequentialist, but all of this could have been avoided.
BBCC
Seriously? Not answering your phone when your dad calls is being an edge lord now?
Reltzik
According to my dad, yes.
(Actually, he’s stills struggling to add the correct usage of the word “troll” to his vocabulary.)
Kyrik Michalowski
I think the edgelord comment is unrelated to not answering her phone. They might be referring to her attitude with Becky at the party?
abysswatcher1993
That too. After Joyce tried to break up a couple and realised she is capable of evil, she began talking shit about ideals and common decency just because she can’t accept she is a flawed human like everyone else and should accept she can make mistakes. Also, she has been avoided talking with her family for days, even Jocelyn, who she only talked to because Ethan convinced her to. I have been in college and even with my crankiness and atheism I always made sure to talk at least once with my mom to make sure I was safe. What Joyce has been doing isnt helping her case of her mom wanting her to be back home, even if Carol is a bongo.
BBCC
No, what she said was that another thing her church taught her was full of shit (namely, that atheists can do whatever they want without any consequences whatsoever because no god. She realized this was full of crap because other people still have feelings and she still cared about them. Which, ah, kinda screws with the idea she’s rejecting common decency and can’t accept she’s flawed and makes mistakes but okay). She also said that since everything else they’ve taught her was full of crap, why not sexual purity? Which – good! Sexual purity and the idea you need a god to be a moral person ARE full of crap teachings and she’s absolutely right to reject them. That’s not being an edge lord. Hell, even calling her community ‘BSing b-holes’ isn’t exactly nice, but she’s still not exactly WRONG. They were BSing. The fact they sincerely believed their BS doesn’t mean they weren’t peddling bullshit and Joyce is entirely in her rights to be angry at them for ingraining it into her.
Also, she called Jocelyne like three days ago, in universe. Yes, after Ethan prompted her to, but sue the girl for not wanting to talk to her (so far as she knows) hyper religious family about her religious doubts. ESPECIALLY since the possibility of her being corrupted is EXACTLY why her mom wants to pull her out and her dad’s only defence (that she heard) was that she was ‘stronger’ than that. Considering her reasons for not answering were not feeling like it and living in mortal fear of her dad’s judgement, I don’t think it’s wrong not to answer. Family can be bad for you, even the well meaning ones like Hank. Joyce even said if it were important (like needing to know if she’s safe), her dad would’ve texted her, so it’s not like she’s missing anything vital.
Norah
At least talk to her dad, who’s a reasonable person. And Jocelyne. I didn’t realize she’d been ignoring her too.
BBCC
That’s only because she wasn’t. Joyce called Joss, not the other way around. It was at Ethan’s prompting but so far as I recall, she hasn’t been ignoring Joss. And Hank’s generally reasonable nowadays, but he’s got 18 years worth of BS being pounded into Joyce’s head. She doesn’t really want to talk to him. She’s already said he’d send a text if it was important, so she has no reason to think this is something vital.
BigDogLittleCat
Yeah, where has she been ignoring Jocelyne?
Hrovitnir
Not answering your phone to preserve your mental health is a fucking great call (though I recommend communicating on needing space for a bit, but that’s hard). Not only is it not being an edge lord, I’m somewhat judgemental at her being pressured into this. It’s not massively less emotional labour to have your friends take the call, and more likely to evoke drama.
The fact I know this is probably serious is irrelevant.
Yenklette
To be honest, I think we’ve really lost sight of what “emotional labor” actually is when we’re using it to describe being distant and immature towards people who love you. Barring actual abusive situations, ghosting someone is never valid and it’s not “self-care”. Joyce isn’t a bad person, but refusing to answer all day without so much as a quick check-in or texted, “Hey, I’m okay, can’t talk right now” is not a really adult thing to do.
(I will fight for the reclamation of the term “emotional labor” even as all of my enemies gather at the gates. It’s not the same thing as emotion work! FIGHT ME, Jeff Bezos.)
Yenklette
I’m not actually really judging Joyce for this, to be clear, I just think we’re a little too flippant about branding unhealthy habits as “self-care”. You know what’s real self-care? Taking care of Future You. Eating ten cookies is not self-care. Cooking a healthy meal is self-care.
Meagan
Preach! So happy to run into someone who knows about the difference between emotional labor and emotional work.
BBCC
Different things can be healthy in different ways. Eating ten cookies at once one day because you’re depressed and cookies make you happy might not be good for your stomach, but it can be good for your mental health. And honestly, if it’s not happening super frequently, it probably won’t actually do too much harm.
Madock345
Ghosting also implies an extended time period. It’s been one day. Anyone should be able to cut cords for one day.