Poor Amazi-girl, all of the responsibility and yet none of the perks. At least she still seems to be the most content of the pair, if increasingly frustrated with her counterpart.
I hope that discontent doesn’t drive her to evil. Everybody knows the slide to the darkside begins with fear of vegetables. That is why the darkside has cookies.
she got to punch criminals/ppl who deserved it, that’s more than other ppl their age get but i’d totally read an ‘amazigirls day off’ oneshot/spinoff/arc llol
Given the sudden craving for donuts, I kind of suspect that this IS the “Amazi-Girl’s Day Off” arc. At last, we get to see what happens when the world”s most law-abiding citizen really cuts loose and goes wild!
Just in case anyone doesn’t get the reference: Elliot Dunkel is a character from El Goonish Shive, another comic on Hiveworks, who,
1. Has anger issues in his backstory, but supresses it.
2. At least once, performed a walljump mid-conversation and apparently without effort.
3. has a superhero alter-ego.
I’m gonna tread carefully here, but I don’t think you’d be as happy about the usual(?) prerequisites for getting one of those. Not really the kind of environment one tends to deliberately seek out, I imagine.
That’s a grey area. Adventure of Dai has basically that situation, with a 1989-1996 manga, a 1991 anime, and a 2020 anime, so I guess it’s only cringe if it’s a reference to something that’s original to the latest adaptation.
Clif
I don’t know which anime version I saw in passing and dismissed as a Dragon Ball knock-off, though I don’t remember why now. With three versions, is the manga worth going back and searching for?
I’ve only seen the 2020 version (up to episode 80, so no spoilers plz), but I’d say it’s 100% worth checking out. It has that old Toriyama flair to it, and feels a lot older than it is, in a really cozy way.
Jeremiah
Dragon quest original art was made by the creator of dragon ball so probably that’s why you fell that.
Jeremiah
That doesn’t sound right but I don’t know enough about cringe culture to dispute it.
Clif
Wait! There’s an entire culture based around cringe now?
Of course there is.
Jeremiah
There been for as long as fandom has existed. It just people telling others that their interest are lame.
When I was a kid– around four and a half, I think– I had dinner over at my neighbors’ house one night, and they had broccoli, which I guess I wasn’t used to… and I really liked it and came home like, “How come we never have broccoli?”
The first time I consciously and intentionally ate broccoli, far as I recall, was at some hole-in-the-wall buffet that probably doesn’t exist anymore, and it was at the salad bar, raw and all that. I thought it was spicy, because kids that young don’t typically have an intricate lexicon for flavors and whatnot, and I said as much to… I think probably a grandparent, and then the next thing I remember, we were leaving the restaurant.
It makes sense to a young person’s palate that broccoli could be spicy. Many closely related plants are, and there’s a wild plant that I can never remember the American name for* that in Britain is called ‘rocket’ that looks a lot like broccoli but has a spiciness like radish.
*despite being American
PirateTawnee
Arugula?
Meagan
That is also in the same family, I believe, but not the plant I am thinking of.
I tried looking it up and was unsuccessful. I went on a plant walk years ago where it was shown to me as a plant that grows wild in my area. I can’t remember the common American name – which the walk leader shared – but for some reason the British name stuck with me: “rocket.” However, apparently “rocket” is also a common name for arugula. But I’ve seen and grown arugula, and the planet I’m thinking of is not the same, although they are similar in flavor and clearly closely related.
I’ll have to get a picture sometime and do a reverse image search. It’ll still probably bring up a bunch of broccoli and arugula.
Broccoli is an MCU variant of wild mustard. So, yeah, to a kid’s developing and sensitive palate, the plant’s inner tanginess might be detected as spicy.
Alaric
Not exactly. It’s related, but Broccoli is actually one of many cultivars of wild cabbage, along with cabbage, red cabbage, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, kale, collards, kohlrabi, and several other vegetables. They’re all human-bred cultivars of the same species (Brassica oleracea). The mustards belong to the same family, and brown mustard, specifically, belongs to the same genus, but it’s a different species.
I love broccoli – preferably well-steamed, with butter or sometimes cheese – but am “meh” on cauliflower, go fig. (Maybe it’s that I tend to only encounter the latter raw, intended for dipping in ranch or the like.)
Steam the cauliflower, preferably with some garlic (fresh or powdered, either is great) and lemon juice. Or roast it next to a bit of red meat and let it soak up the juice. Trust me, I’m a stranger.
Nymph
I trust you explicitly.
Clif
You may be a stranger, but you’re our stranger.
StClair
You’re definitely strange, but that does sound like a good recipe and/or flavor combo. Thanks.
…Great, I just realized even if I was full blown DID instead of OSDD where I remain aware while the others do stuff, the only one of us three who’d eat healthy would end up not doing it out of spite of being expected to
It is interesting to see AG more actively thinks of herself as part of a system. She really talks a lot about Amber and how her actions affect Amber. She puts Amber first in a way we never really see Amber do. Kind of like Amber owns their body and AG is a guest. I don’t know much of anything about DID mind you. Just an observation.
I mean, a huge part of the point is that AG is “the responsible one”. Amber can shove a lot of responsibility onto AG because AG is there to shoulder it, for better and worse. In a lot of ways, AG exists to be the grownup in the room head.
DID mostly just specifies that AG and Amber are cohabitants. Modern methods of therapy would probably recommend that AG and Amber chat with each other and negotiate what they each want to give and have. Which they’ve done increasingly over the course of the comic, but the core of the dynamic is still “Amber is gremlin; AG is adult” and they both kinda resent each other for it while recognizing each other’s validity.
The real question is whether or not Phantom Mike is still there.
Re-reading that, I think I’m overselling the “adult”-ness of AG. It’s more of a “oldest sibling forced into the parental role because of absentee parents” deal: it’s extremely trying-very-hard to be responsible despite being not ready for it rather than a healthy version of responsibility. Hence why AG overreacts constantly.
It’s really a pity that Amber and Amazigirl can’t do family therapy together. (Or maybe couples therapy? Or any therapy that helps the two of them as two individuals, I mean.)
I’d actually be very interested in Amazi-Girl talking with her mom. Stacy doesn’t seem aware of her daughter’s disassociation at all to the point Amber flat out told her and I think she said Amber was just hungry or something like that. I don’t know if we’ve ever seen them interact at all. It might be good for AG to be acknowledged by her parent.
I looked it up and remembered that wrong. Amber kind of told Richard about it sarcastically while Stacy was next to her. I don’t think they took it seriously.
DID is a specialization that therapists will advertise their qualification in handling. As with all therapists, YMMV, but it’s a thing you can filter on when looking them up.
162 thoughts on “Broccoli”
NGPZ
*plays “Kryptonite” by Three Doors Down on hacked muzak*
Cholma
Ooh! Haven’t heard that in awhile. Thanks!
Nymph
hmm this was not the first comment when I checked last – I can only assume you’ve begun world domination.
NGPZ
maybe I have…
or maybe one too many earthlings accidentally clicked “Report comment” on the original first comment too many times XD
True Survivor
Poor Amazi-girl, all of the responsibility and yet none of the perks. At least she still seems to be the most content of the pair, if increasingly frustrated with her counterpart.
I hope that discontent doesn’t drive her to evil. Everybody knows the slide to the darkside begins with fear of vegetables. That is why the darkside has cookies.
DailyBrad
Yeah, she doesn’t even get to fuck Danny anymore. I guess she at least gets to roller derby, that’s probably fun.
anon
she got to punch criminals/ppl who deserved it, that’s more than other ppl their age get but i’d totally read an ‘amazigirls day off’ oneshot/spinoff/arc llol
Mturtle7
Given the sudden craving for donuts, I kind of suspect that this IS the “Amazi-Girl’s Day Off” arc. At last, we get to see what happens when the world”s most law-abiding citizen really cuts loose and goes wild!
Nono
Carla being included here feels very deliberate. Not sure what’s coming next.
Thag Simmons
I’m trying to imagine what accidentally including Carla in a comic would look like
Cholma
There are no accidents with Carla. She’s like a Wizard; she appears in the comic precisely when she means to.
DJTsurugi
thank you for getting there before me. ~<3
Cattleprod
It could just be that Amazi-Girl next runs into Joyce, Ethan, and Asher, who Carla just skated by, establishing visual continuity.
SvenTS
Clearly it’s setting up a long term ‘Carla attempts to learn to wall-skate’ arc since she can’t risk anyone upstaging her.
anon
lol she has charlie but i wonder if carla considers it a ‘flex’ and is gonna have some kinda rivalship to ‘compete’ with amber/amazigirl lol
Jeremiah
Good enough, welcome Elliot Dunkel.
Jamie
Lol, German Dark.
Bobbi
Glad I’m not the only one who thought of that
showler
He’s starting college soon. Maybe they’ll meet?
Smallmoon
Just in case anyone doesn’t get the reference: Elliot Dunkel is a character from El Goonish Shive, another comic on Hiveworks, who,
1. Has anger issues in his backstory, but supresses it.
2. At least once, performed a walljump mid-conversation and apparently without effort.
3. has a superhero alter-ego.
mindbleach
Other Rachel: “How’d all this shit fall off my shelf?”
mindbleach
Okay so reloading the page does not in fact reset where a comment goes, even if it resets where the comment box goes. Good to know.
Jeremiah
I’m gonna be honest, I completely forgot about the superhero connection when I made that comment, I just focused on the wall jump lol.
Charles Phipps
Someday, Amazi-Girl will have to beat Amber in a junkyard.
Newlland(Henryvolt)
So Tyler Durden scenario ?
NickG
Superman 3
Josh Spicer
Got, Amazi-Girl is so cool I wish had an alternate superhero personality who could take over for me when life gets too “nope”.
Taffy
I’m gonna tread carefully here, but I don’t think you’d be as happy about the usual(?) prerequisites for getting one of those. Not really the kind of environment one tends to deliberately seek out, I imagine.
Bryy
I love that we’re actually seeing Amazi-Girl out and about.
EtchJetty
Oh this REALLY seems like it’s gonna be a full Amazi-Girl front today. :DDD that’s SO fucking hype tbh
Sirksome
IU has very wide and very short ceiling hallways.
Taffy
This is getting out of hand. Now there are four of her.
Jeremiah
Would it be too cringe to make a Naruto reference?
Taffy
Anime references are only cringe if the show started airing after 2013.
Sirksome
Amazi-Girl is clearly a fighting dreamer.
Yumi
What if the show started airing in 2019, but it was a new adaptation and the previous anime version of the series had come out in 2001?
Taffy
That’s a grey area. Adventure of Dai has basically that situation, with a 1989-1996 manga, a 1991 anime, and a 2020 anime, so I guess it’s only cringe if it’s a reference to something that’s original to the latest adaptation.
Clif
I don’t know which anime version I saw in passing and dismissed as a Dragon Ball knock-off, though I don’t remember why now. With three versions, is the manga worth going back and searching for?
Taffy
I’ve only seen the 2020 version (up to episode 80, so no spoilers plz), but I’d say it’s 100% worth checking out. It has that old Toriyama flair to it, and feels a lot older than it is, in a really cozy way.
Jeremiah
Dragon quest original art was made by the creator of dragon ball so probably that’s why you fell that.
Jeremiah
That doesn’t sound right but I don’t know enough about cringe culture to dispute it.
Clif
Wait! There’s an entire culture based around cringe now?
Of course there is.
Jeremiah
There been for as long as fandom has existed. It just people telling others that their interest are lame.
Yumi
When I was a kid– around four and a half, I think– I had dinner over at my neighbors’ house one night, and they had broccoli, which I guess I wasn’t used to… and I really liked it and came home like, “How come we never have broccoli?”
Taffy
The first time I consciously and intentionally ate broccoli, far as I recall, was at some hole-in-the-wall buffet that probably doesn’t exist anymore, and it was at the salad bar, raw and all that. I thought it was spicy, because kids that young don’t typically have an intricate lexicon for flavors and whatnot, and I said as much to… I think probably a grandparent, and then the next thing I remember, we were leaving the restaurant.
Icalasari
Grandparent to.the rescue
Taffy
Shows what they knew. I’ll gladly vore an entire head of raw broccoli now, without a hint of remorse.
Meagan
It makes sense to a young person’s palate that broccoli could be spicy. Many closely related plants are, and there’s a wild plant that I can never remember the American name for* that in Britain is called ‘rocket’ that looks a lot like broccoli but has a spiciness like radish.
*despite being American
PirateTawnee
Arugula?
Meagan
That is also in the same family, I believe, but not the plant I am thinking of.
I tried looking it up and was unsuccessful. I went on a plant walk years ago where it was shown to me as a plant that grows wild in my area. I can’t remember the common American name – which the walk leader shared – but for some reason the British name stuck with me: “rocket.” However, apparently “rocket” is also a common name for arugula. But I’ve seen and grown arugula, and the planet I’m thinking of is not the same, although they are similar in flavor and clearly closely related.
I’ll have to get a picture sometime and do a reverse image search. It’ll still probably bring up a bunch of broccoli and arugula.
Bash
Raw Broccoli is quite bitter, so I’m not surprised it felt “spicy” to you.
Michael Steamweed
Broccoli is an MCU variant of wild mustard. So, yeah, to a kid’s developing and sensitive palate, the plant’s inner tanginess might be detected as spicy.
Alaric
Not exactly. It’s related, but Broccoli is actually one of many cultivars of wild cabbage, along with cabbage, red cabbage, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, kale, collards, kohlrabi, and several other vegetables. They’re all human-bred cultivars of the same species (Brassica oleracea). The mustards belong to the same family, and brown mustard, specifically, belongs to the same genus, but it’s a different species.
StClair
I love broccoli – preferably well-steamed, with butter or sometimes cheese – but am “meh” on cauliflower, go fig. (Maybe it’s that I tend to only encounter the latter raw, intended for dipping in ranch or the like.)
Taffy
Steam the cauliflower, preferably with some garlic (fresh or powdered, either is great) and lemon juice. Or roast it next to a bit of red meat and let it soak up the juice. Trust me, I’m a stranger.
Nymph
I trust you explicitly.
Clif
You may be a stranger, but you’re our stranger.
StClair
You’re definitely strange, but that does sound like a good recipe and/or flavor combo. Thanks.
Jamie
Roasted broccoli is also quite good.
Miri
Steam broccoli and cauliflower. Coat both in a cheese sauce with garlic, herbs, etc to taste. Top with more cheese. Bake in oven until browning.
Mark
Chilled, or soaked in terriyaki, or I’ll pass.
IntangibleMatter
Carla and Amazi-Girl should get a dedicated team-up sometime
Pocky
PARKOUR
BRAZIL
Icalasari
…Great, I just realized even if I was full blown DID instead of OSDD where I remain aware while the others do stuff, the only one of us three who’d eat healthy would end up not doing it out of spite of being expected to
Sirksome
It is interesting to see AG more actively thinks of herself as part of a system. She really talks a lot about Amber and how her actions affect Amber. She puts Amber first in a way we never really see Amber do. Kind of like Amber owns their body and AG is a guest. I don’t know much of anything about DID mind you. Just an observation.
Jamie
I mean, a huge part of the point is that AG is “the responsible one”. Amber can shove a lot of responsibility onto AG because AG is there to shoulder it, for better and worse. In a lot of ways, AG exists to be the grownup in the
roomhead.DID mostly just specifies that AG and Amber are cohabitants. Modern methods of therapy would probably recommend that AG and Amber chat with each other and negotiate what they each want to give and have. Which they’ve done increasingly over the course of the comic, but the core of the dynamic is still “Amber is gremlin; AG is adult” and they both kinda resent each other for it while recognizing each other’s validity.
The real question is whether or not Phantom Mike is still there.
Jamie
Re-reading that, I think I’m overselling the “adult”-ness of AG. It’s more of a “oldest sibling forced into the parental role because of absentee parents” deal: it’s extremely trying-very-hard to be responsible despite being not ready for it rather than a healthy version of responsibility. Hence why AG overreacts constantly.
Uly
It’s really a pity that Amber and Amazigirl can’t do family therapy together. (Or maybe couples therapy? Or any therapy that helps the two of them as two individuals, I mean.)
Sirksome
I’d actually be very interested in Amazi-Girl talking with her mom. Stacy doesn’t seem aware of her daughter’s disassociation at all to the point Amber flat out told her and I think she said Amber was just hungry or something like that. I don’t know if we’ve ever seen them interact at all. It might be good for AG to be acknowledged by her parent.
Sirksome
I looked it up and remembered that wrong. Amber kind of told Richard about it sarcastically while Stacy was next to her. I don’t think they took it seriously.
Jamie
DID is a specialization that therapists will advertise their qualification in handling. As with all therapists, YMMV, but it’s a thing you can filter on when looking them up.
Riley