It’s a good show, shame the creator turned out to be a bit of a git.
UrsulaDavina
That was unfortunate
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anonymsly
I’ve had a bit of a tumble….
UrsulaDavina
Four I mean five I mean Fire!
Rose by Any Other Name
That could be so many different creators… it’s kinda sad.
David Alexander McDonald
Graham Linehan, a raving TERF, right wing bigot, and all around horrifying English pillock who blew up a highly successful writing and producing career to be even more reprehensible that Laurence Fox.
LiamKav
*Irish
Miri
Oh ? Actually thinking about it, there was a Trans* woman character on it in one episode who the womanising idiot boss fell in love with, misheard her trying to tell him this, she thought he was surprisingly chill, he didn’t know why she thought it might be a big deal she was born in Iran (“a man” being misheard as “Iran” should have been a BIG clue by four thinking about it actually ?) and it descended into physical violence…
This probably shouldn’t have been a surprise…
modulusshift
yeah that’s the episode which had a pretty negative reaction, which Graham thought was unwarranted and doubled down, and still has never recovered from
It’s a scene in The IT Crowd where the two lead geeks prank their non-geek boss by giving her a small box with a light on it and claiming it’s “The Internet”. Like, the actual internet, which is a physical item they were allowed to borrow so she could show it off in a presentation (and humiliate herself).
The joke backfires because all the execs she shows it to are as dumb as she is and actually impressed. And then panic when the box accidentally gets damaged because they believe the internet was just destroyed.
At this point, I assume every reference I don’t get is to The IT Crowd, a Terry Pratchett book, or that thing with the hot dog guy who’s all trying to find out who did this.
Doctor_Who
You can take or leave The IT Crowd, but if you’ve never read a Pratchett book you are really missing out.
Taffy
See, people always say that whenever I bring it up, but I disagree.
Formedras
I assume the only Pratchett novel Taffy’s read is The Colour of Magic, which is easily the weakest Discworld novel (easy to do, considering that it’s the first one). But eh, not their fault. (Even if I’m wrong, and they have in fact read some good ones.) Gotta read one of the good ones. I’m especially partial to Guards! Guards!
I haven’t read any of them. Only random sentences that are allegedly appropriate to whatever conversation they appear in.
HueSatLight
I like them, my brother doesn’t. Not the messaging, just the style isn’t his thing.
If you get people hyping them all the time, I can see how that’s not actually encouraging. There is an ersatz-Christmas movie made from one of the books, called Hogfather. If you were inclined to expose yourself to Discworld and his style without committing to a book, that’s what I’d watch. The humor is pretty corny sometimes, but corny in a different way than “I think you should leave”
Schpoonman
Personal taste is personal taste is personal taste is personal taste.
begbert2
I wanted to give the Discworld books a fair shot, so I read the first twenty of them. Of them maybe four were tolerable and none were good. I’ve discovered that I have little tolerance for authors who discard character in favor of dad humor.
khn0
It took me actually years to understand that what I had taken for depth were cheap pop cultures references that covered darwinist libertarian views (libdem at best?) with a humor varnish (and yeah I’m ashamed it took me so long, but in the other hand, I had culturally no way to understand them as cheap refs since I’m from across the channel and don’t watch TV). Not counting the YA/teen novels, there are actually like four books where the intrigue is good enough, four where the hidden message is interesting enough, and four that are written well enough. Those are not the same four books, and all along he can’t write that many good female characters while thinking of himself as a feminist. His best are imo the YA/teen novels, by far…
HueSatLight
personal taste is personal taste, but lol @ “darwinist libertarian”
khn0
Well I read Lapsus clavi.
summary:
-why public school is awful
-why do you keep taxing me?
-that time I got honoured and made a funny/moving speech
-I’m ill
-that time I got honoured and made a funny/moving speech
-taxes aren’t well used
-being a fantasy author doesn’t mean you can’t write but critics that understand literature should go to hell because they are living thanks to my work and they pay me no royalties
-taxes
-I like tech and since I can afford it it makes me a pioneer.
-I like Australia
-taxes taxes taxes taxes
LiamKav
Lapsus clavi?
Tan
I think I’ve read one proper Pratchett novel in my teen years, but could not tell you which one or much thoughts on it beyond it was alright. Good Omens by Pratchett and Neil Gaiman is an absolute treasure though (but given how much I enjoy Gaiman generally, that is not surprising)
thejeff
Lapsus Clavi seems to be a French translation of a collection of Pratchett letters and essays. Not sure what the English title would be.
Lapsus Clavi is indeed the french title for Pratchett’s nonfiction essay collection A Slip of the Keyboard
Daibhid C
Okay, the conversation about whether Terry Pratchett is Bad Actually is one I literally cannot be part of (and if you seriously think the guy who inspired the Vimes Boots Index was a right-winger I don’t know what to tell you), but I totally get “Everyone keeps going on about these and it puts me off”, because I did exactly that to my dad, who eventually told me he was sure he would have liked them if I hadn’t built up this weight of expectations that would be hanging over him if he tried to read one.
Rose by Any Other Name
@Formedras
The only Pratchett novel I’ve read is Good Omens.
It was fine. Not really my thing.
I know that comment wasn’t directed at me, but I’ve had people trying to get me to read Discworld / more Pratchett for years, so I understand how Taffy feels.
khn0
Daibhid
It depends how you define right winger. If being for women’s rights and antiracist makes suffices to make you left wing, so be it.
To me the Vimes index is a sign of a left sensibility, but in the same time, much of Pratchett, especially late ones, are about how rich men (and an aging female vampire that learnt from a rich man) lead the advance of society thanks to technical progress, being some sort of benevolent economic tyrants. In the two first Vimes novels, Vime is a poor and almost powerless vigilante and develops the theory you mentioned. But as soon as he becomes an economic forces, while a chaotic one, he cease to appeals to solidarity and replaces it with charity which is pretty much what right wing is: it is even developed literally when he goes to the Counties to get lectured (and finally agree) that giving money while torturing is OK because then you have the impression to have earnt it and that it’s better to get more money from a jerk than less from someone OK. That sensibility pervades his whole work, where it’s always some kind of merit that make people go up and the role of inheritance is downplayed (Vetinari himself, Vimes, Henry, Wordes, Lipwig). In the Lipwig novels, he goes so far to demonstrate that Lipwig can’t be a crook without causing deaths, but after that he and Henry can moguls, exploiting people, without showing any death resulting of extreme labor exploitation (that pseudo antiracist stance where it’s positive that migrants work more is severely undermined but the fact you employ them *because* they are willing to bypass protective rules and put more hours than people that somehow get a kind of choice). In the one about economy, he totally reverses his former theory of value (as the sum work being able to be produced, hence the power of possible workforce of golems) to pursue a monetary theory where it’s nothing short of neo-classics: and in fact, most of Pratchett revolves around innovation being the main factor rather than the reproductive process of capital based on the exploitation of workers. The same change happens also between Feet of Clay (one of my favorites, well until a few pages to the end where it becomes NCABIRL: No Cop Is a Bastard If Rightfully Led refusing the systemic aspect of undemocratic law management) and the Lipwig novels: suddenly, people who worked to free themselves from oppression (no gods, no masters, literally) now are a temp agency perfectly fine with unethical labor as long as they’re paid and considered people. I will not speak longer for now his silencing of homosexuality in Monstruous regiment and his picking of equal rights orgs.
Kelibath
@Taffy – It’s absolutely understandable to not appreciate something – just a shame if you haven’t made that decision for yourself. We have friends IRL who have not and may never watch Firefly for similar overhype reasons. I’d happily sit down and no-judgement just stream it with them, but others have pushed them too far off it already. So I understand… but I hope you can find a way in someday if that pressure loosens up.
If there’s any chance you did eventually push past the forced hype and try Pratchett out, I do think you’d be marvellously surprised. It’s less about those single pithy sayings and more about the care shown to characters and situations both alongside some real nuanced understanding of our world translated into comic fantasy. And Pratchett is equal parts loving and righteously angry, so tends to handle subjects sympathetically and cuttingly at once, somehow. His earlier works have a few content snafus given their time and his demographics but most of these are addressed later on.
FWIW, if that does occur, Mort is a fun early introduction to the series, if you can ignore size commentary. Or Monstrous Regiment is probably one of the best but may be a bit dense for a brand new reader – Men at Arms, Guards Guards, or similar first, maybe. One good thing about Discworld is there are actually 4 or 5 concurrent sub series with different tones and focii.
Kelibath
@khn0 fair points, I think, but given the development of his works over his lifetime, I think your characterisation is less fair for the later parts of the series. He starts libdem/leftish centrist but moves farther left and into deeper character study as the books go on (at least in my reading and opinion). Which honestly was a nice match for me as I shifted the same way after university and unpacked my prejudices at the same rate alongside it.
It’s this kind of thing that makes me not want to bother with the books. “It’s a shame”, “You’re missing out”, “find a way in”, as if there’s something fundamental that’s inherently missing from my life because I haven’t read books by one specific author. I can’t even say I haven’t read them without multiple people jumping down my throat with this crap, like that simple fact alone is evidence of some sinister outside force keeping me away from these precious tomes, or some kind of petulant contrarianism in my part.
I haven’t read them. I’m not interested in reading them. The people who tell me to read them are too damn pushy (and honestly kinda condescending) about it, and that doesn’t help, but it’s not the important factor. I’m sorry if people feel personally harmed and offended that I haven’t read their favorite books, but they’re just not something that grabs my attention enough to bother reading one. I can barely make myself read books I am interested in.
I regret even bringing them up in passing, as part of a short list of other things I haven’t consumed.
milu
yeah, i get why people do this, because i do get that glowing feeling from introducing a thing i love and the other person goes “wow tysm, that was fab”
but also. there’s a ton of incredible art that never get the level of hype that (eg, and no offense) Pratchett does, and so many books that few people will ever read even though they are just as worthy (whatever that means~). like, i’m sure Pratchett’s actually great. but like you said Taffy, does he really needs *more* hype, like what does this achieve at this point.
in fact *maybe* our time spent not reading Pratchett is spent reading other very cool books, or going on walks with top-notch doggies or taking super tasty naps or whatnot. who’s missing out now! lol!
HueSatLight
@taffy I get what you mean. I have zero interest in consoles and handhelds. I have to look up what is what each time there’s one in the comic. Why would I want to play a racing game if there’s not an animatronic bear playing the banjo in the next room?
clif
There is something fundamental that’s inherently missing from your life because you haven’t read books by this one specific author. But I respect your right to self diminish your cultural treasure house, you poor Taffy you.
Nah, I can’t do it with a straight face. Pratchett is a good read, but nothing to get worked up about. If you should ever suffer from amnesia and decide to give one a try, I recommend Equal Rites.
HueSatLight
Have you all read the Tain? It’s nothing at all like Discworld. It’s iron age Irish myth. Plus: the hero goes supersayan and does a bunch of wire-fu martial arts moves and decimates an army, first in one-on-one fights, then they try sending groups at him. Con: it’s an iron age myth, passed down through oral tradition for like a thousand years until the middle ages, so it’s fragmented and there’s lots of lists of names and places that are probably shout-outs and story hooks that mean very little today.
I remember finding it really sexist when i tried to watch it again a couple years ago, like a lot of the humor relied on gender stereotypes? I found it super offputting and just, like, tedious
Bash
It relies heavily on stereotypes, and a lot of it is tedious. I think people tend to remember the redeeming moments, of which there are admittedly plenty.
davidbreslin101
Yes, rewatching the comedy of your youth can be brutal. I’d forgotten exactly how homophobic “Blackadder” gets, for instance.
Otoh, and though that one also unfortunately involves Linehan, ive recently rewatched a few Black Books episodes and i thought they held up really well <3
Roborat
I always thought that was them making fun of homophobia.
Jason
I tried watching it once relatively recently and couldn’t get far at all into it. Maybe there were some great moments in there but I just… couldn’t. It made me uncomfortable. And it just didn’t feel like it has any energy or charisma to it. Off putting and tedious we’re definitely my takeaway from it.
Jo_cubstar
I agree. I’ll admit that I loved it on a first watch, an incredibly long time ago, but in more recent years I found some of the jokes kind of off-putting. Richard Aoyade is wonderful though
The premise you miss in the meme is that these are I.T. guys managed by someone who has no idea about tech. And she takes one of their pranks and presents it as if it were real.
The real twist will be that Carla isn’t giving her Switch away because Animal Crossing doesn’t support cloud saves. SACRIFICE YOUR ISLAND FULL OF DREAMIES FOR LOVE, CARLA
Boosters still what a freshman if someone offered up a car and deep dish pizza I doubt they or anyone else would turn it down they could flip the car beacuse ya know insurance is alot and eat the pizza
Insurance doesn’t cost anything if you don’t have it.
Needfuldoer
With the caveat that not having insurance can get very expensive if you roll snake eyes.
Vegetalss4
Ah, but unlike other insurance car insurance is mandatory.
(specifically liability insurance, exact requirements vary depending on country and state)
Mano308gts
Actually, if you’re rich enough, car insurance isn’t mandatory at all (in the United States). You can be “self-insured,” which literally just means you have a stated plan to cover yourself in an accident, and the means to do so set aside.
Kelibath
Definitely depends on country then – it’s flat-out illegal to drive a car in the UK without active insurance and road tax.
clif
Unless they changed it when I wasn’t looking, in Texas you can self-insure for liability insurance, but you have to leave a deposit to cover it with the state and they do not pay interest. Still cheaper than insurance if you can afford to let the state hang onto your money.
i mean even from an established ‘rich family’ i’d def raise an eyebrow at a non relative offering me a car (tho even if it was ‘tax deductible’ i wonder if ppl woudl be responsible if there was an accident or so lol) tho i odn’t drive and would want like a butler/personal driver instead 8D;
259 thoughts on “Carla Claus”
Ana Chronistic
As it turns out, Carla has played the system exactly zero times, so it TECHNICALLY contains all her save data, while also not
clif
Everybodys looking for nothing, but nobody looks harder for nothing than Carla.
Rognik
It goes well with her complete disinterest in Boomer’s sister.
Grayfinity
No! Another victim of autocorrect! (I presume…)
Kelli217
s/oom/oost/
Slartibeast Button, BIA
Damn, I was hoping for a DoA/Bubblegum Crisis crossover…
Doctor_Who
Booster: Wait, I thought you were good at tech. Surely you know your save data is actually in the cloud, right?
Carla: Of course! That’s why I’m bringing the cloud too!
(she produces a small nondescript box)
Booster: Okay, you mean a backup. Whew, for a second there I thought you had the actual cloud in your possession somehow.
Carla: …
Booster: Carla, I really need you to tell me that isn’t the actual cloud. Please say these words, I must hear them.
Carla: ^_^
Slartibeast Button, BIA
This … is the Internet.
(From a show I never actually watched.)
Doctor_Who
It’s a good show, shame the creator turned out to be a bit of a git.
UrsulaDavina
That was unfortunate
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anonymsly
I’ve had a bit of a tumble….
UrsulaDavina
Four I mean five I mean Fire!
Rose by Any Other Name
That could be so many different creators… it’s kinda sad.
David Alexander McDonald
Graham Linehan, a raving TERF, right wing bigot, and all around horrifying English pillock who blew up a highly successful writing and producing career to be even more reprehensible that Laurence Fox.
LiamKav
*Irish
Miri
Oh ? Actually thinking about it, there was a Trans* woman character on it in one episode who the womanising idiot boss fell in love with, misheard her trying to tell him this, she thought he was surprisingly chill, he didn’t know why she thought it might be a big deal she was born in Iran (“a man” being misheard as “Iran” should have been a BIG clue by four thinking about it actually ?) and it descended into physical violence…
This probably shouldn’t have been a surprise…
modulusshift
yeah that’s the episode which had a pretty negative reaction, which Graham thought was unwarranted and doubled down, and still has never recovered from
Ana Chronistic
At least Matt Berry himself has distanced himself from the character he played
NGPZ
I do not understand this reference.
Doctor_Who
It’s a scene in The IT Crowd where the two lead geeks prank their non-geek boss by giving her a small box with a light on it and claiming it’s “The Internet”. Like, the actual internet, which is a physical item they were allowed to borrow so she could show it off in a presentation (and humiliate herself).
The joke backfires because all the execs she shows it to are as dumb as she is and actually impressed. And then panic when the box accidentally gets damaged because they believe the internet was just destroyed.
NGPZ
execs huh? yeah that tracks XD
Taffy
At this point, I assume every reference I don’t get is to The IT Crowd, a Terry Pratchett book, or that thing with the hot dog guy who’s all trying to find out who did this.
Doctor_Who
You can take or leave The IT Crowd, but if you’ve never read a Pratchett book you are really missing out.
Taffy
See, people always say that whenever I bring it up, but I disagree.
Formedras
I assume the only Pratchett novel Taffy’s read is The Colour of Magic, which is easily the weakest Discworld novel (easy to do, considering that it’s the first one). But eh, not their fault. (Even if I’m wrong, and they have in fact read some good ones.) Gotta read one of the good ones. I’m especially partial to Guards! Guards!
Taffy
I haven’t read any of them. Only random sentences that are allegedly appropriate to whatever conversation they appear in.
HueSatLight
I like them, my brother doesn’t. Not the messaging, just the style isn’t his thing.
If you get people hyping them all the time, I can see how that’s not actually encouraging. There is an ersatz-Christmas movie made from one of the books, called Hogfather. If you were inclined to expose yourself to Discworld and his style without committing to a book, that’s what I’d watch. The humor is pretty corny sometimes, but corny in a different way than “I think you should leave”
Schpoonman
Personal taste is personal taste is personal taste is personal taste.
begbert2
I wanted to give the Discworld books a fair shot, so I read the first twenty of them. Of them maybe four were tolerable and none were good. I’ve discovered that I have little tolerance for authors who discard character in favor of dad humor.
khn0
It took me actually years to understand that what I had taken for depth were cheap pop cultures references that covered darwinist libertarian views (libdem at best?) with a humor varnish (and yeah I’m ashamed it took me so long, but in the other hand, I had culturally no way to understand them as cheap refs since I’m from across the channel and don’t watch TV). Not counting the YA/teen novels, there are actually like four books where the intrigue is good enough, four where the hidden message is interesting enough, and four that are written well enough. Those are not the same four books, and all along he can’t write that many good female characters while thinking of himself as a feminist. His best are imo the YA/teen novels, by far…
HueSatLight
personal taste is personal taste, but lol @ “darwinist libertarian”
khn0
Well I read Lapsus clavi.
summary:
-why public school is awful
-why do you keep taxing me?
-that time I got honoured and made a funny/moving speech
-I’m ill
-that time I got honoured and made a funny/moving speech
-taxes aren’t well used
-being a fantasy author doesn’t mean you can’t write but critics that understand literature should go to hell because they are living thanks to my work and they pay me no royalties
-taxes
-I like tech and since I can afford it it makes me a pioneer.
-I like Australia
-taxes taxes taxes taxes
LiamKav
Lapsus clavi?
Tan
I think I’ve read one proper Pratchett novel in my teen years, but could not tell you which one or much thoughts on it beyond it was alright. Good Omens by Pratchett and Neil Gaiman is an absolute treasure though (but given how much I enjoy Gaiman generally, that is not surprising)
thejeff
Lapsus Clavi seems to be a French translation of a collection of Pratchett letters and essays. Not sure what the English title would be.
milu
Lapsus Clavi is indeed the french title for Pratchett’s nonfiction essay collection A Slip of the Keyboard
Daibhid C
Okay, the conversation about whether Terry Pratchett is Bad Actually is one I literally cannot be part of (and if you seriously think the guy who inspired the Vimes Boots Index was a right-winger I don’t know what to tell you), but I totally get “Everyone keeps going on about these and it puts me off”, because I did exactly that to my dad, who eventually told me he was sure he would have liked them if I hadn’t built up this weight of expectations that would be hanging over him if he tried to read one.
Rose by Any Other Name
@Formedras
The only Pratchett novel I’ve read is Good Omens.
It was fine. Not really my thing.
I know that comment wasn’t directed at me, but I’ve had people trying to get me to read Discworld / more Pratchett for years, so I understand how Taffy feels.
khn0
Daibhid
It depends how you define right winger. If being for women’s rights and antiracist makes suffices to make you left wing, so be it.
To me the Vimes index is a sign of a left sensibility, but in the same time, much of Pratchett, especially late ones, are about how rich men (and an aging female vampire that learnt from a rich man) lead the advance of society thanks to technical progress, being some sort of benevolent economic tyrants. In the two first Vimes novels, Vime is a poor and almost powerless vigilante and develops the theory you mentioned. But as soon as he becomes an economic forces, while a chaotic one, he cease to appeals to solidarity and replaces it with charity which is pretty much what right wing is: it is even developed literally when he goes to the Counties to get lectured (and finally agree) that giving money while torturing is OK because then you have the impression to have earnt it and that it’s better to get more money from a jerk than less from someone OK. That sensibility pervades his whole work, where it’s always some kind of merit that make people go up and the role of inheritance is downplayed (Vetinari himself, Vimes, Henry, Wordes, Lipwig). In the Lipwig novels, he goes so far to demonstrate that Lipwig can’t be a crook without causing deaths, but after that he and Henry can moguls, exploiting people, without showing any death resulting of extreme labor exploitation (that pseudo antiracist stance where it’s positive that migrants work more is severely undermined but the fact you employ them *because* they are willing to bypass protective rules and put more hours than people that somehow get a kind of choice). In the one about economy, he totally reverses his former theory of value (as the sum work being able to be produced, hence the power of possible workforce of golems) to pursue a monetary theory where it’s nothing short of neo-classics: and in fact, most of Pratchett revolves around innovation being the main factor rather than the reproductive process of capital based on the exploitation of workers. The same change happens also between Feet of Clay (one of my favorites, well until a few pages to the end where it becomes NCABIRL: No Cop Is a Bastard If Rightfully Led refusing the systemic aspect of undemocratic law management) and the Lipwig novels: suddenly, people who worked to free themselves from oppression (no gods, no masters, literally) now are a temp agency perfectly fine with unethical labor as long as they’re paid and considered people. I will not speak longer for now his silencing of homosexuality in Monstruous regiment and his picking of equal rights orgs.
Kelibath
@Taffy – It’s absolutely understandable to not appreciate something – just a shame if you haven’t made that decision for yourself. We have friends IRL who have not and may never watch Firefly for similar overhype reasons. I’d happily sit down and no-judgement just stream it with them, but others have pushed them too far off it already. So I understand… but I hope you can find a way in someday if that pressure loosens up.
If there’s any chance you did eventually push past the forced hype and try Pratchett out, I do think you’d be marvellously surprised. It’s less about those single pithy sayings and more about the care shown to characters and situations both alongside some real nuanced understanding of our world translated into comic fantasy. And Pratchett is equal parts loving and righteously angry, so tends to handle subjects sympathetically and cuttingly at once, somehow. His earlier works have a few content snafus given their time and his demographics but most of these are addressed later on.
FWIW, if that does occur, Mort is a fun early introduction to the series, if you can ignore size commentary. Or Monstrous Regiment is probably one of the best but may be a bit dense for a brand new reader – Men at Arms, Guards Guards, or similar first, maybe. One good thing about Discworld is there are actually 4 or 5 concurrent sub series with different tones and focii.
Kelibath
@khn0 fair points, I think, but given the development of his works over his lifetime, I think your characterisation is less fair for the later parts of the series. He starts libdem/leftish centrist but moves farther left and into deeper character study as the books go on (at least in my reading and opinion). Which honestly was a nice match for me as I shifted the same way after university and unpacked my prejudices at the same rate alongside it.
Taffy
It’s this kind of thing that makes me not want to bother with the books. “It’s a shame”, “You’re missing out”, “find a way in”, as if there’s something fundamental that’s inherently missing from my life because I haven’t read books by one specific author. I can’t even say I haven’t read them without multiple people jumping down my throat with this crap, like that simple fact alone is evidence of some sinister outside force keeping me away from these precious tomes, or some kind of petulant contrarianism in my part.
I haven’t read them. I’m not interested in reading them. The people who tell me to read them are too damn pushy (and honestly kinda condescending) about it, and that doesn’t help, but it’s not the important factor. I’m sorry if people feel personally harmed and offended that I haven’t read their favorite books, but they’re just not something that grabs my attention enough to bother reading one. I can barely make myself read books I am interested in.
I regret even bringing them up in passing, as part of a short list of other things I haven’t consumed.
milu
yeah, i get why people do this, because i do get that glowing feeling from introducing a thing i love and the other person goes “wow tysm, that was fab”
but also. there’s a ton of incredible art that never get the level of hype that (eg, and no offense) Pratchett does, and so many books that few people will ever read even though they are just as worthy (whatever that means~). like, i’m sure Pratchett’s actually great. but like you said Taffy, does he really needs *more* hype, like what does this achieve at this point.
in fact *maybe* our time spent not reading Pratchett is spent reading other very cool books, or going on walks with top-notch doggies or taking super tasty naps or whatnot. who’s missing out now! lol!
HueSatLight
@taffy I get what you mean. I have zero interest in consoles and handhelds. I have to look up what is what each time there’s one in the comic. Why would I want to play a racing game if there’s not an animatronic bear playing the banjo in the next room?
clif
There is something fundamental that’s inherently missing from your life because you haven’t read books by this one specific author. But I respect your right to self diminish your cultural treasure house, you poor Taffy you.
Nah, I can’t do it with a straight face. Pratchett is a good read, but nothing to get worked up about. If you should ever suffer from amnesia and decide to give one a try, I recommend Equal Rites.
HueSatLight
Have you all read the Tain? It’s nothing at all like Discworld. It’s iron age Irish myth. Plus: the hero goes supersayan and does a bunch of wire-fu martial arts moves and decimates an army, first in one-on-one fights, then they try sending groups at him. Con: it’s an iron age myth, passed down through oral tradition for like a thousand years until the middle ages, so it’s fragmented and there’s lots of lists of names and places that are probably shout-outs and story hooks that mean very little today.
milu
It’s aged very badly i’m afraid. Except for Richard Aoyade who is a timeless delight
Tobias
It hasn’t aged badly at all, though? It’s still absolutely hilarious, I’ve shown it to several new people in the last few years and they all loved it.
milu
Meh!
milu
I remember finding it really sexist when i tried to watch it again a couple years ago, like a lot of the humor relied on gender stereotypes? I found it super offputting and just, like, tedious
Bash
It relies heavily on stereotypes, and a lot of it is tedious. I think people tend to remember the redeeming moments, of which there are admittedly plenty.
davidbreslin101
Yes, rewatching the comedy of your youth can be brutal. I’d forgotten exactly how homophobic “Blackadder” gets, for instance.
milu
Otoh, and though that one also unfortunately involves Linehan, ive recently rewatched a few Black Books episodes and i thought they held up really well <3
Roborat
I always thought that was them making fun of homophobia.
Jason
I tried watching it once relatively recently and couldn’t get far at all into it. Maybe there were some great moments in there but I just… couldn’t. It made me uncomfortable. And it just didn’t feel like it has any energy or charisma to it. Off putting and tedious we’re definitely my takeaway from it.
Jo_cubstar
I agree. I’ll admit that I loved it on a first watch, an incredibly long time ago, but in more recent years I found some of the jokes kind of off-putting. Richard Aoyade is wonderful though
Furie
Good show. Hilarious episode.
The premise you miss in the meme is that these are I.T. guys managed by someone who has no idea about tech. And she takes one of their pranks and presents it as if it were real.
Dave
The real twist will be that Carla isn’t giving her Switch away because Animal Crossing doesn’t support cloud saves. SACRIFICE YOUR ISLAND FULL OF DREAMIES FOR LOVE, CARLA
NGPZ
you forgot to say “ho ho ho!!!”, Carla! ;P
that’s how earthlings do it, right?
True Survivor
Not when you are trying to prove you are girl friend material.
(They might think you like gardening – which according the stereotypes means you are already a grandmother).
clif
I can confirm that anyone who says ho ho ho!!!, Carla is likely to be an earthling.
Present company excepted.
milu
That’s exactly what an undercover Teegardenian alien would say.
Librain
Well that is just baseless slander, implying that I would have anything to do with those idiotic pustules on the gala-
I mean… Who are the Teegardenians? I’ve never heard of them!
quark
this is like an extended courtship ritual but for getting a wingman
Angel
Well, depends on how much booster considers it as being manipulated/guilt trippy
UrsulaDavina
Hold out Booster you can probably get a Prius, and deep dish pizza out of this.
Angel
Well, they just said that it’s ‘easily replaceable’/not meaningful so would booster rly accept it? aside from the pizza
UrsulaDavina
Boosters still what a freshman if someone offered up a car and deep dish pizza I doubt they or anyone else would turn it down they could flip the car beacuse ya know insurance is alot and eat the pizza
Taffy
Insurance doesn’t cost anything if you don’t have it.
Needfuldoer
With the caveat that not having insurance can get very expensive if you roll snake eyes.
Vegetalss4
Ah, but unlike other insurance car insurance is mandatory.
(specifically liability insurance, exact requirements vary depending on country and state)
Mano308gts
Actually, if you’re rich enough, car insurance isn’t mandatory at all (in the United States). You can be “self-insured,” which literally just means you have a stated plan to cover yourself in an accident, and the means to do so set aside.
Kelibath
Definitely depends on country then – it’s flat-out illegal to drive a car in the UK without active insurance and road tax.
clif
Unless they changed it when I wasn’t looking, in Texas you can self-insure for liability insurance, but you have to leave a deposit to cover it with the state and they do not pay interest. Still cheaper than insurance if you can afford to let the state hang onto your money.
Angel
i mean even from an established ‘rich family’ i’d def raise an eyebrow at a non relative offering me a car (tho even if it was ‘tax deductible’ i wonder if ppl woudl be responsible if there was an accident or so lol) tho i odn’t drive and would want like a butler/personal driver instead 8D;