Yeah, I can’t tell if her catch phrase sounds vaguely erotic just because Joyce doesn’t realize its innuendo or because all the sexuality she suppresses is leaking out via her comics.
Joyce actively reads erotica, or at least (Amber’s) erotic fanfics… So it would be hard to believe that she’s entirely unaware of the innuendo.
Kimi
People can be surprisingly dense about innuendo sometimes. Sometimes they read it really literally, while other times they know that it is referencing something else but wouldn’t be able to say what if someone asked them. Considering I had a sister that literally did not know how sex actually worked until a friend sat her down in high school, even though she went through several sex Ed classes, a biology class, and read many fantasy books that had sex scenes in them (though most were written through innuendo or were vaguish on the process). I still don’t know how she managed to accomplish that other than purposeful blind ignorance or really impressive ability to be dense. As the younger sibling, they were worried about me when I came into high school 3 years behind her, as they thought that it was a parental issue and it wasn’t. That being said, there were some swear words or insults that people used in high school that were related to sex that I didn’t know what they actually meant. In my defense, I never actually heard them in a “proper” context, which doesn’t help parsing out what it actually means. It was hilarious watching people play hot potato when I asked for a definition, and people either didn’t know or didn’t want to tell me.
Laura
Gallagher was apparently also unaware of this innuendo until after publishing it:
Sorry: Corsetto.
Do NOT mix up Danielle Corsetto with Danielle Gallagher. Two very different professions.
Laura
Confusion made worse by the fact that Monica Gallagher and Danielle Corsetto co-authored a comic book about college frosh learning about sexuality and the supernatural together. A few parallels there.
havent yet gotten into the Corsetto/Gallagher comic but i’m currently reading Gallagher’s Assassin Roommate, and it’s a pretty fun ride =)
Laura
Oh, yeah. Assassin Roommate is badasse. So is Bonnie n Collide (eatyourlipstick.com) and Gallagher’s Cancer Comics. Talk about hardcore!
The collaboration comic is “Boo! It’s Sex!” and it’s available online at girlswithslingshots.com. Very informative! And sad, too: could be triggering, as one of the characters is learning the hard way about how to respect boundaries. (Girls With Slingshots could be triggering for similar reasons.)
Basically, I just love all my badasse cartoonistas. ;-D
Speaking of WebToons series, “Love, Joolz” has a few new comics up now by Jules Rivera (the new “Mark Trail” author), which always makes me happy.
I once tried a couple pages of Always Human but feared it would be too cheesy and pat even for my tastes (lol) but since you recommend it I will make sure to give it another try =)
My own comfort-food cheesy webtoon these days is High Class Homos, I loooove the art, its so unapologetically bubbly and fuzzy, its like candy. I’m also a huge fan of Marvin W’s “Humor Me” (but they update sooo slowly T_T) and their short story “Monster under my bed” (found in a collection called Heart Anthology) its so freaking charming, its just pure joy.
Also I can not decently speak of comics and leave out False Knees, its The Best Comic Ever (non-serialized category), its just birds and other animals being sassy and existential and tender and I’m in love with it. Gorgeous art, too.
Laura
Wow, well, thank YOU for all those new recs! I’ll have plenty to scope out, now! I’m searching for ’em right now.
Only check out “Always Human” if you just like the art. I kind of like it for its colorful watercolor style alone. But the writing really is a little juvenile. Reads kinda like fanfic. But sweet, and I like sweet.
Speaking of lovely coloring and Queer/Trans romance, I really loved Goodbye to Halos (goodbyetohalos.com) by Valerie Halla (the genius who colored Octopus Pie). But sadly, the cartoonist kind of drew herself into a cul-de-sac and is taking a hiatus now. Some stories just get too involved…
…Anyway, fun talkin’ “shop” with ya! Thanks!
StClair
first I thought you meant the comedian.
and THEN I thought you meant Fred “Piro” Gallagher.
then I finally scrolled down.
that was quite a ride, I tell ya.
Laura
Sorry about that! Danielle Gallagher is a champion lacrosse player. Monica Gallagher is a cartoonista. Danielle Corsetto is also a cartoonista and collaborates with Monica Gallagher. I was try’n’a be all suave, using just last names, and dove headfirst into a wordpile. 😉
Mano308gts
You know, that’s one of those weird coincidences that happen in reality, that if you put into a work of fiction, people would complain about how unrealistic it is. XD
I think it’s funny how you seem to believe it can’t be both those things at the same time. Joyce’s psyche is a mess – she has all these unexamined assumptions, blind spots, and deeply ingrained habit patterns that are the product of her extremist and sheltered upbringing; while at the same time she’s exploring a helter-skelter mishmash of popular culture she couldn’t before, trying to develop a coherent worldview and moral framework that works for her as a member of mainstream American society (while still dealing with all the social, emotional, and psychological fallout of rejecting the ones she was raised in) when there are large parts of that culture she knows little or nothing about beyond the distorted caricatures she grew up being told, AND figuring out what she really likes to spend her time doing.
Having known people a little like this in life – whose current self is a sharp and radical departure from their upbringing – it is entirely possible that she would come up with such lines while consciously believing the phrases to be totally innocent, realize how they sound when it is pointed out, and belatedly admit (when there is sufficient emotional distance) that on some level she totally knew what she was writing but couldn’t admit it to herself yet.
Joyce is going to publish her stories online under one username, then create a second username and pretend to be someone else when she writes horny fanfiction of her own work.
But this doesn’t get her approval. Malaya first accused Sal of being “too cool” for Halloween, baiting Sal into dressing up and now that she is Malaya immediately said it seems fake. What’s the end goal here? Cause Malaya won’t be impressed regardless.
StClair
IMO, to have Malaya be satisfied and stop accusing her of being fake.
(Also IMO, this will never happen.)
C.T. Phipps
I’m old enough to think Malaya is full Jersey Shore.
I know “count” is a standard term for a vampire and all but that line is making me picture Captain Gray’s foes as The Count. As in, the one from Sesame Street.
there was a strip where Amber asks Joyce for the chapters of her fanfiction where the characters have sex, and Joyce panics. Ambers surmises that Joyce has deleted those chapters as soon as they were writeen. 🙂 (was that a bonus strip?)
184 thoughts on “Catchphrase”
Ana Chronistic
what’s the opposite of bowdlerise
Laura
Smutify.
Freezer
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AmericanKirbyIsHardcore
Ana Chronistic
Yeah idk if that second catchphrase is hardcore tho
Maybe softcore at this point lolololol
Daibhid C
Scroopify.
Doctor_Who
“To humiliation and beyond!”
True Survivor
“There’s toilet paper on my boot!”
Clif
What’s the opposite of Disneyfication?
annarchy
When you take Disney properties and turn them into erotica.
Joseph Mound
Hyperrealism?
I’ve also fallen victim to accidentally clicking report when trying to reply. Willis please disregard!
davidbreslin101
He mentioned the other day that it takes a LOT of flags for a comment to go to moderation. So don’t worry!
Laura
Gritty reboot.
Laura
Responsible urban planning.
Plain Marie
LoL *cries in small sprawling city with no affordable housing*
Laura
So true, Plain Marie! I hope you have a place to live that you can afford. It’s so awful to be without secure housing — yuck.
In the words of the (mock) Philadelphia Industrial Redevelopment Authority, “Save the Disney Hole!” (http://www.disneyhole.org/thehole.html)
Or, as Dada sang, “I just ran away from home. Now I’m going to Dizz Knee Land.” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daa9pZDxfIY)
Laura
Brothers Grimming.
Freezer
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HotterAndSexier
The Wellerman
This had me in stitches at that last panel!!!
???
worth the wait
Cmasta1992
This is only a few letters away from erotic fanfiction Joyce.
True Survivor
Yeah, I can’t tell if her catch phrase sounds vaguely erotic just because Joyce doesn’t realize its innuendo or because all the sexuality she suppresses is leaking out via her comics.
Devin
I absolutely think it’s the latter.
Mano308gts
Joyce actively reads erotica, or at least (Amber’s) erotic fanfics… So it would be hard to believe that she’s entirely unaware of the innuendo.
Kimi
People can be surprisingly dense about innuendo sometimes. Sometimes they read it really literally, while other times they know that it is referencing something else but wouldn’t be able to say what if someone asked them. Considering I had a sister that literally did not know how sex actually worked until a friend sat her down in high school, even though she went through several sex Ed classes, a biology class, and read many fantasy books that had sex scenes in them (though most were written through innuendo or were vaguish on the process). I still don’t know how she managed to accomplish that other than purposeful blind ignorance or really impressive ability to be dense. As the younger sibling, they were worried about me when I came into high school 3 years behind her, as they thought that it was a parental issue and it wasn’t. That being said, there were some swear words or insults that people used in high school that were related to sex that I didn’t know what they actually meant. In my defense, I never actually heard them in a “proper” context, which doesn’t help parsing out what it actually means. It was hilarious watching people play hot potato when I asked for a definition, and people either didn’t know or didn’t want to tell me.
Laura
Gallagher was apparently also unaware of this innuendo until after publishing it:
https://www.girlswithslingshots.com/comic/gws-chaser-1915
Laura
Sorry: Corsetto.
Do NOT mix up Danielle Corsetto with Danielle Gallagher. Two very different professions.
Laura
Confusion made worse by the fact that Monica Gallagher and Danielle Corsetto co-authored a comic book about college frosh learning about sexuality and the supernatural together. A few parallels there.
milu
havent yet gotten into the Corsetto/Gallagher comic but i’m currently reading Gallagher’s Assassin Roommate, and it’s a pretty fun ride =)
Laura
Oh, yeah. Assassin Roommate is badasse. So is Bonnie n Collide (eatyourlipstick.com) and Gallagher’s Cancer Comics. Talk about hardcore!
The collaboration comic is “Boo! It’s Sex!” and it’s available online at girlswithslingshots.com. Very informative! And sad, too: could be triggering, as one of the characters is learning the hard way about how to respect boundaries. (Girls With Slingshots could be triggering for similar reasons.)
Basically, I just love all my badasse cartoonistas. ;-D
Speaking of WebToons series, “Love, Joolz” has a few new comics up now by Jules Rivera (the new “Mark Trail” author), which always makes me happy.
Another WebToons series I like (a little sappy, a little cheesy, but lovely art and a cute/sweet take on navigating disability in queer romance) is Always Human: https://www.webtoons.com/en/romance/always-human/list?title_no=557
Comics are good. They make me happy.
milu
Wow ty for all the recommendations =)
I once tried a couple pages of Always Human but feared it would be too cheesy and pat even for my tastes (lol) but since you recommend it I will make sure to give it another try =)
My own comfort-food cheesy webtoon these days is High Class Homos, I loooove the art, its so unapologetically bubbly and fuzzy, its like candy. I’m also a huge fan of Marvin W’s “Humor Me” (but they update sooo slowly T_T) and their short story “Monster under my bed” (found in a collection called Heart Anthology) its so freaking charming, its just pure joy.
Also I can not decently speak of comics and leave out False Knees, its The Best Comic Ever (non-serialized category), its just birds and other animals being sassy and existential and tender and I’m in love with it. Gorgeous art, too.
Laura
Wow, well, thank YOU for all those new recs! I’ll have plenty to scope out, now! I’m searching for ’em right now.
Only check out “Always Human” if you just like the art. I kind of like it for its colorful watercolor style alone. But the writing really is a little juvenile. Reads kinda like fanfic. But sweet, and I like sweet.
Speaking of lovely coloring and Queer/Trans romance, I really loved Goodbye to Halos (goodbyetohalos.com) by Valerie Halla (the genius who colored Octopus Pie). But sadly, the cartoonist kind of drew herself into a cul-de-sac and is taking a hiatus now. Some stories just get too involved…
…Anyway, fun talkin’ “shop” with ya! Thanks!
StClair
first I thought you meant the comedian.
and THEN I thought you meant Fred “Piro” Gallagher.
then I finally scrolled down.
that was quite a ride, I tell ya.
Laura
Sorry about that! Danielle Gallagher is a champion lacrosse player. Monica Gallagher is a cartoonista. Danielle Corsetto is also a cartoonista and collaborates with Monica Gallagher. I was try’n’a be all suave, using just last names, and dove headfirst into a wordpile. 😉
Mano308gts
You know, that’s one of those weird coincidences that happen in reality, that if you put into a work of fiction, people would complain about how unrealistic it is. XD
Taellosse
I think it’s funny how you seem to believe it can’t be both those things at the same time. Joyce’s psyche is a mess – she has all these unexamined assumptions, blind spots, and deeply ingrained habit patterns that are the product of her extremist and sheltered upbringing; while at the same time she’s exploring a helter-skelter mishmash of popular culture she couldn’t before, trying to develop a coherent worldview and moral framework that works for her as a member of mainstream American society (while still dealing with all the social, emotional, and psychological fallout of rejecting the ones she was raised in) when there are large parts of that culture she knows little or nothing about beyond the distorted caricatures she grew up being told, AND figuring out what she really likes to spend her time doing.
Having known people a little like this in life – whose current self is a sharp and radical departure from their upbringing – it is entirely possible that she would come up with such lines while consciously believing the phrases to be totally innocent, realize how they sound when it is pointed out, and belatedly admit (when there is sufficient emotional distance) that on some level she totally knew what she was writing but couldn’t admit it to herself yet.
Rose by Any Other Name
I’m thinking the latter. Lotta bisexuality in that catchphrase.
RassilonTDavros
…heh. Didn’t realize what “counts” was one letter off from until just now.
Yumi
Joyce is going to publish her stories online under one username, then create a second username and pretend to be someone else when she writes horny fanfiction of her own work.
StClair
Isn’t that basically BARBAROUS?
Chaucer59
Sounds like Lesbians in Space. Oh, wait—it’s “counts.” Misread that. My bad. ?
Felix
by my count it’s only 1 letter off…
davidbreslin101
Joyce is officially the She who said That.
ThunderNight
Is this the equivalent of Joyce being into that big laser gun from the Walkyverse?
Rabid Rabbit
That, or else it’s the equivalent of Willis not realizing the innuendo of dream Danny asking Joyce to help bury his large bone.
Sirksome
This is trying way too hard for Malaya.
Thag Simmons
Yeah this is not a winning strategy
The Wellerman
“A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.”
C.T. Phipps
Malaya’s approval is the only one Sal needs!
🙂
Sirksome
But this doesn’t get her approval. Malaya first accused Sal of being “too cool” for Halloween, baiting Sal into dressing up and now that she is Malaya immediately said it seems fake. What’s the end goal here? Cause Malaya won’t be impressed regardless.
StClair
IMO, to have Malaya be satisfied and stop accusing her of being fake.
(Also IMO, this will never happen.)
C.T. Phipps
I’m old enough to think Malaya is full Jersey Shore.
“FAKE! YOU’RE ALL FAKES!”
Keulen
Sal would be better off to just tell Malaya to go away rather than to keep trying to appease her like this.
tbf
Beautiful. I laughed so loud I had to explain it to a housemate.
Dinajoyce
I made my husband read the last couple strips to properly appreciate this punchline with me.
True Survivor
Alas, poor Master Wilis. His attempts to correct the server clock have once again come to naught.
Cholma
Silly Willis! Doesn’t he know the server is permanently set to “Ana Chronistic Time”? The new comic appears precisely when she wants it to.
Cholma
Or rather, when she’s ready to make her post on the comic.
Mendel
proof that Ana is the server admin
Needfuldoer
Post your comment
As fast as you dare
You’ll find Ana
Is already there
Burma-Shave
Cholma
+1
Can’t go wrong with a Burma Shave ref! 😀
Stephen Bierce
*plays the theme to the end of the Seventies version of BUCK ROGERS on the hacked Muzak*
Tenzhi
Good choice. After all, they fought space vampires (on a disco station IIRC) and the main action lady in the series was played by Erin GRAY.
StClair
I thought I was the only one who remembered that.
Caro
THE RETURN OF SPIFFY!
RassilonTDavros
Sal can never escape the Spiffy.
The Wellerman
Holy crap Sal looks SO CUTE with those alien antennae and that hoodie! ???
anon
nobody tell her
this is why mike was killed offRassilonTDavros
I know “count” is a standard term for a vampire and all but that line is making me picture Captain Gray’s foes as The Count. As in, the one from Sesame Street.
RassilonTDavros
“Four words: ah ah ah ah!”
The Wellerman
Am I supposed to imagine Space Pilot Captain Julia Grey with a British accent or something?
“Spiffy space-tronauts”….
Yumi
When Joyce gets to a place where she’s ready to write erotica of her own characters, she’ll appreciate her past self setting her up so nicely.
The Wellerman
Yeah. Not to mention all that practice drawing ding-dongs won’t be for nothing!!! ?
Drakkin the Alien
there was a strip where Amber asks Joyce for the chapters of her fanfiction where the characters have sex, and Joyce panics. Ambers surmises that Joyce has deleted those chapters as soon as they were writeen. 🙂 (was that a bonus strip?)