1) man this day feels like it has lasted forever
2) considering that y’all are unbelievably massive nerds for recognizing author-sama’s callbacks with lightning speed
I had similar, but only the centre of the toenail was detached, and it was still attached on either side. Pain wasn’t an issue, but holy fuck it grew in weird, and I still haven’t gotten it entirely back to normal.
Lys
I had similar, but the pain was an issue. I’m not sure if that was the same, but essentially a nail just chose to stop being alive, and another nail grew under it. So it started pushing underneath, which was painful on its own, but to prevent it giving rise to a new exciting type of physical trauma we had to tear the old one away. That really, and I mean REALLY smarted. Makes me shudder to think about it even 16 years later.
And here I am with one big toenail almost grown back from detached-in-the-middle and the other one already almost detached but somehow still hanging on. Eh, I guess it’ll sort itself out XD
“Welp, time to sell my soul I guess. Where can I get some of those funny dice Jack Chick warned me about? And do I need to play one of those heavy metal albums backwards, or can it be an Amy Grant album?”
Wait a minute, shit. Even Makoto’s persona would be a good match for Makoto. Johana, woman who pretended to be male in order to become pope who takes the form of a badass bike. (Though i think Joyce fits the Justice arcana as oppose to the priestess, but that’s just my opinion)
Hoboturtle
Joyce*
LeslieBean4shizzle
You know, if I hadn’t already run my It’s Walky tabletop game using updated character portrayals from DoA, I would be tempted to make DoA the template for my next Persona tabletop game.
Hm.
Magician: Walky (immature but with great potential for growth)
Priestess: Dorothy (highly intelligent, but has difficulty balancing instinct and logic)
Empress: Billie (very obsessed with her image, can be motherly or destructive)
Emperor: Joe (very male, but also has a protective side)
Hierophant: Leslie (a teacher and positive role model)
Lovers: Becky (cheerful, outgoing, and a proponent of love/romance)
Chariot: Jacob (driven individual overly focused on goals) (Dorothy would also fit here, but I think she works slightly better as Priestess)
Justice: Sal (stoic and concerned with fairness)
Hermit: Sarah (prefers to hide away from others and support from a distance)
Fortune: Joyce (seize their own destiny in spite of fate and make difficult choices that change their lives)
Strength: Dina (not easily upset, shows surprising inner strength when tested)
Hanged Man: Amber (caught between two selves)
Death: Ruth (undergoing a cycle of change)
Temperance: Ethan (struggles to find a balance between life and hobbies)
Devil: Mike (seemingly uncaring, but dedicated to a cause)
Tower: Robin (arrogant character fallen from grace)
Star: Carla (an overwhelmingly positive attitude)
Moon: Mayala (projects her own fears and insecurities onto others)
Sun: Danny or Marcie (an optimistic character burdened by the crushing weight of reality)
I left out Judgement/Aeon because that’s usually reserved for a late game organization or inhuman character, none of which apply. ANd I left out Fool because that also usually applies either to the party in the early game or sometimes to the MC.
Anyway, this was a ridiculously fun time! Obviously these are not iron clad (I saw several that I could swap around), but I think I did a good job of including nearly all of the main characters in justifiable slots.
And yes, I did check the Shin Megami Tensei wiki to see what character traits were associated with which Arcanas. Those little parenthetical descriptors are paraphrased from there.
Dumbing of Age Book 10: I’ve Renounced Magical Thinking And Embraced Empirical Evidence.
The only time I will ever offer a book title. I just really like this line and find it amusing in a webcomic where people make bad choices regularly and it sounds like it should be a positive epiphany but in this context, it is sad.
Is the title going to be “Happy Birthday Dina”, “Meeting the, uh, Challenges of Your Personal Life”, “I’m Keeping My Dead Toenail On With Duct Tape” or “I’ve Renounced Magical Thinking and Embraced Empirical Evidence”?
If Dorothy ever decides to give up that whole politician-gig she would make a decent therapist. Gentle probing, teasing out an answer. giving Joyce an entry-point to the conversation.
Joyce honey, this isn’t a binary choice, there’s lots of options between “yes” and “no” including lots of options that add another entire dimension to these thoughts.
Ok see, Down here in Australia we have a member of Parliament that embraces “empirical evidence” as well. In his case it’s claiming that all the evidence of climate change is part of a global conspiracy to push a “global warming agenda” (to what end I am unsure). He demands that anyone arguing against him produce “empirical evidence” of their claims, but this obviously cannot include any data from the worlds weather bureaus or space programs because “they’re all tainted and unreliable”.
Oh, like that story of Asimov about a robot that follows a twisted version of reason that doesn’t allow to trust tthings at face value and is skeptic of everything even when being given an explanation that makes sense through physics. The robot things space is a sea of a black substance, and then through reason theorizes that humans can’t make robots because humans are less efficient than robots, and that the true creator is a god that is substituting humans with robots.
I’d say you still have plenty right to mock our politicians, since while your climate change denier is a member of a small minority party, one of our two major parties has pretty much embraced climate change denial.
That’s not ‘embracing empirical evidence’ but ‘embracing the empirical evidence that fits my theory’. And thus, a total failure on the count of scientific thinking, as as a scientist, if you have a theory, you go and look for the things that would prove your theory wrong as well as for indications that your theory right. You cannot prove it to be right, you can only prove that you tested all points that might prove its wrong and the theory passed.
Which reminds me of something: Wikipedia states that the g-spot as a distinct physical feature cannot be distinguished. And, holy cow, they don’t want to say it exists so women who don’t experience special orgasms and ejaculation when stimulated there, don’t feel inferior. ? That must be a first.
Is this showing a male bias (as in ‘shit, this doesn’t happen in missionary but needs something more and I don’t want to think about it’) or is there still no explanation for female ejaculation and g-spot orgasms? Or has the Wikipedia once again been hijacked by male assholes?
I mean, ok, the proof I have is anecdotal in the scientific sense because of too small sample size ( because I only saw it happen with one person, who mentioned her previous lover taught her how to let go enough to get there). But there’s a lot of anecdotal evidence out there that’s not porn.
And some printed works from women’s health centers and sex-positive sites, but I don’t know if there are any physiologists works out there? Could anyone point me to a source?
Anatomy varies and erogenous zones in general are pretty individual. The very best thing to do is to explore and communicate with each partner, with an emphasis on active listening.
I actually wanted sources because i’m annoyed that Wikipedia naysays this and it needs sources to be able to change the article.
That different people react differently to stimulation is obvious. Still doesn’t change the fact that xx-women usually come with a vagina that has places on the inner front that react to stimulation in some way, even though liking or not liking stimulation there is individual.
144 thoughts on “Challenges”
Jen Aside
??H?A?P?P?Y?✨?B?I?R?T?H?D?A?Y✨??D?I?N?A??
…here’s a $5 Amazon Gift Card
JetstreamGW
Cheapass. You can spring for $10.
Jen Aside
I mean, technically $5 gift cards are nearly if not completely extinct bc it’s not cost effective, so it’s a double joke ??
Doctor_Who
Time to post this again, I think.
ValdVin
Oh it’s never not time for that.
plasticwrap
1) man this day feels like it has lasted forever
2) considering that y’all are unbelievably massive nerds for recognizing author-sama’s callbacks with lightning speed
Deathjavu
1) All days in DOA last approximately forever
2) Patreon is one day ahead, so…is it really lightning speed if it’s 24h ± 10min? (but most of us probably are unbelievably massive nerds)
Jess
oh, this has the potential to be good
anonamousethatscurriesinthedarkness
I hear the figurative squeal of tires, screech of brakes, venting of steam from a kettle, etc etc etc
ian livs
Glad to hear it, Joyce, but in the context you’re talking about, you’re giving me the sadness.
shadowcell
Dumbing of Age Book 10: [Ask Amber About This]
The Chosen One
I dunno, my money’s on I’m Keeping My Dead Toenail On With Duct Tape
Yet_One_More_Idiot
I was going for Book 10: I’ve Renounced Magical Thinking and Embraced Empirical Evidence.
JimmyP424
Book 10: Something Else Is Wrong
Jen Aside
Dumbing of Age Book 10: Original Sin, and All That
or even
Dumbing of Age Book 10: Happy Birthday
anonamousethatscurriesinthedarkness
Dumbing of Age : Book 10: In all things, symetry
Sue Aside
Dumbing of Age Book 10: So, Yes
Lys
Dumbing of Age Book 10: I hope you are meeting the challenges of your personal lives
Ana Chronistic
Actually, I’m tempted to go back a couple of comics and say
Dumbing of Book 10: *scritches*
ValdVin
Dina, if it were anyone else, [Ask Amber about this] would not somehow still be charming.
DarkoNeko
OUCH
Stephen Bierce
As somebody who once had a new toenail grow UNDERNEATH a toenail that I didn’t know was broken–yes, OUCH.
King Daniel
Yeah, Joyce, you may want to actually do something about that before it develops into a…thing
anonamousethatscurriesinthedarkness
Or worse yet – another DAD.
Jess
I take my hat off to you!
HMH
I had similar, but only the centre of the toenail was detached, and it was still attached on either side. Pain wasn’t an issue, but holy fuck it grew in weird, and I still haven’t gotten it entirely back to normal.
Lys
I had similar, but the pain was an issue. I’m not sure if that was the same, but essentially a nail just chose to stop being alive, and another nail grew under it. So it started pushing underneath, which was painful on its own, but to prevent it giving rise to a new exciting type of physical trauma we had to tear the old one away. That really, and I mean REALLY smarted. Makes me shudder to think about it even 16 years later.
Masumi
And here I am with one big toenail almost grown back from detached-in-the-middle and the other one already almost detached but somehow still hanging on. Eh, I guess it’ll sort itself out XD
Doctor_Who
“Welp, time to sell my soul I guess. Where can I get some of those funny dice Jack Chick warned me about? And do I need to play one of those heavy metal albums backwards, or can it be an Amy Grant album?”
ValdVin
“Wait, what about imagining that couple in the Boyz II Men song not being married?”
Charlie Spencer
What about imaging that song is about two of the Boyz?
ValdVin
I don’t know if Joyce is ready for that…yet. Amber probably already has written fiction about it, however.
King Daniel
I mean, Dina did ask for it for her birthday, so
DarkoNeko
*nod furiously*
Regalli
I’m glad she has in fact learned, but I am still sad to see her in pain.
abysswatcher1993
Joyce is REALLY close to pull a Makoto Niijima, and when that happens Toedad and Blaine are going to be shitless scared.
Also, Dina has been a blessing. A secular blessing.
JBento
Sometimes, those Random Fluctuations of the Space-Time Continuum really pull through, don’t they?
Hoboturtle
Goody good girl, secretly a badass, loves motorcycles. Checks out
Hoboturtle
Wait a minute, shit. Even Makoto’s persona would be a good match for Makoto. Johana, woman who pretended to be male in order to become pope who takes the form of a badass bike. (Though i think Joyce fits the Justice arcana as oppose to the priestess, but that’s just my opinion)
Hoboturtle
Joyce*
LeslieBean4shizzle
You know, if I hadn’t already run my It’s Walky tabletop game using updated character portrayals from DoA, I would be tempted to make DoA the template for my next Persona tabletop game.
Hm.
Magician: Walky (immature but with great potential for growth)
Priestess: Dorothy (highly intelligent, but has difficulty balancing instinct and logic)
Empress: Billie (very obsessed with her image, can be motherly or destructive)
Emperor: Joe (very male, but also has a protective side)
Hierophant: Leslie (a teacher and positive role model)
Lovers: Becky (cheerful, outgoing, and a proponent of love/romance)
Chariot: Jacob (driven individual overly focused on goals) (Dorothy would also fit here, but I think she works slightly better as Priestess)
Justice: Sal (stoic and concerned with fairness)
Hermit: Sarah (prefers to hide away from others and support from a distance)
Fortune: Joyce (seize their own destiny in spite of fate and make difficult choices that change their lives)
Strength: Dina (not easily upset, shows surprising inner strength when tested)
Hanged Man: Amber (caught between two selves)
Death: Ruth (undergoing a cycle of change)
Temperance: Ethan (struggles to find a balance between life and hobbies)
Devil: Mike (seemingly uncaring, but dedicated to a cause)
Tower: Robin (arrogant character fallen from grace)
Star: Carla (an overwhelmingly positive attitude)
Moon: Mayala (projects her own fears and insecurities onto others)
Sun: Danny or Marcie (an optimistic character burdened by the crushing weight of reality)
I left out Judgement/Aeon because that’s usually reserved for a late game organization or inhuman character, none of which apply. ANd I left out Fool because that also usually applies either to the party in the early game or sometimes to the MC.
Anyway, this was a ridiculously fun time! Obviously these are not iron clad (I saw several that I could swap around), but I think I did a good job of including nearly all of the main characters in justifiable slots.
And yes, I did check the Shin Megami Tensei wiki to see what character traits were associated with which Arcanas. Those little parenthetical descriptors are paraphrased from there.
StClair
This was really cool, thank you!
LeslieBean4shizzle
*tips imaginary hat*
Thulcandran
Usually when I’m convinced I am or have been a bad person, it’s not because of empirical evidence.
Sam
Dumbing of Age Book 10: I’ve Renounced Magical Thinking And Embraced Empirical Evidence.
The only time I will ever offer a book title. I just really like this line and find it amusing in a webcomic where people make bad choices regularly and it sounds like it should be a positive epiphany but in this context, it is sad.
Keulen
“I’m Keeping My Dead Toenail On With Duct Tape” is another good book title.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
Sounds more like one of Sven’s country music songs over in QC.
abysswatcher1993
If he publishes something more experimental his publisher will be an asshole again and cause another fire just to prove a point.
DragonLizardJareth
Is the title going to be “Happy Birthday Dina”, “Meeting the, uh, Challenges of Your Personal Life”, “I’m Keeping My Dead Toenail On With Duct Tape” or “I’ve Renounced Magical Thinking and Embraced Empirical Evidence”?
Jon S.
“[Ask Amber About This]”.
Keulen
“Original Sin, And All That”
kilgaen
It’s going to just be “Renounce Magical Thinking and Embrace Empirical Evidence”. The call back here would be spoilery, whereas the original declaration here is just hilarious: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-10/01-birthday-pursuit/renounce/
Bagge
If Dorothy ever decides to give up that whole politician-gig she would make a decent therapist. Gentle probing, teasing out an answer. giving Joyce an entry-point to the conversation.
DaveM
Joyce honey, this isn’t a binary choice, there’s lots of options between “yes” and “no” including lots of options that add another entire dimension to these thoughts.
Ok see, Down here in Australia we have a member of Parliament that embraces “empirical evidence” as well. In his case it’s claiming that all the evidence of climate change is part of a global conspiracy to push a “global warming agenda” (to what end I am unsure). He demands that anyone arguing against him produce “empirical evidence” of their claims, but this obviously cannot include any data from the worlds weather bureaus or space programs because “they’re all tainted and unreliable”.
This person is a member of the Australian senate and was voted in by the Australian public. America, we have no right to mock your politicians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Roberts_(politician)
abysswatcher1993
Oh, like that story of Asimov about a robot that follows a twisted version of reason that doesn’t allow to trust tthings at face value and is skeptic of everything even when being given an explanation that makes sense through physics. The robot things space is a sea of a black substance, and then through reason theorizes that humans can’t make robots because humans are less efficient than robots, and that the true creator is a god that is substituting humans with robots.
Keulen
I’d say you still have plenty right to mock our politicians, since while your climate change denier is a member of a small minority party, one of our two major parties has pretty much embraced climate change denial.
Abel Undercity
Oh, please do mock our politicians. They earn it every day.
Also, please allow us to take pokes at that guy, too.
Masumi
Augh I’ve recently been discussing with a flat earther who uses pretty much the same logic, its sooooo frustrating >.<
CJ
That’s not ‘embracing empirical evidence’ but ‘embracing the empirical evidence that fits my theory’. And thus, a total failure on the count of scientific thinking, as as a scientist, if you have a theory, you go and look for the things that would prove your theory wrong as well as for indications that your theory right. You cannot prove it to be right, you can only prove that you tested all points that might prove its wrong and the theory passed.
Which reminds me of something: Wikipedia states that the g-spot as a distinct physical feature cannot be distinguished. And, holy cow, they don’t want to say it exists so women who don’t experience special orgasms and ejaculation when stimulated there, don’t feel inferior. ? That must be a first.
Is this showing a male bias (as in ‘shit, this doesn’t happen in missionary but needs something more and I don’t want to think about it’) or is there still no explanation for female ejaculation and g-spot orgasms? Or has the Wikipedia once again been hijacked by male assholes?
I mean, ok, the proof I have is anecdotal in the scientific sense because of too small sample size ( because I only saw it happen with one person, who mentioned her previous lover taught her how to let go enough to get there). But there’s a lot of anecdotal evidence out there that’s not porn.
And some printed works from women’s health centers and sex-positive sites, but I don’t know if there are any physiologists works out there? Could anyone point me to a source?
Charlie Spencer
I dunno about the dependability of Wikipedia as a source of sexual anatomical reference.
Tan
Anatomy varies and erogenous zones in general are pretty individual. The very best thing to do is to explore and communicate with each partner, with an emphasis on active listening.
Clif
Yes,
CJ
I actually wanted sources because i’m annoyed that Wikipedia naysays this and it needs sources to be able to change the article.
That different people react differently to stimulation is obvious. Still doesn’t change the fact that xx-women usually come with a vagina that has places on the inner front that react to stimulation in some way, even though liking or not liking stimulation there is individual.
AbacusWizard
IT WORKED IT WORKED IT WORKED
DINA IS A POWERFUL SORCERESS
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-10/01-birthday-pursuit/renounce/
PB
Well that’s nice to hear Joyce, I hope you work through whatever –
WWWWHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA????!!!!!
PB
AGH stupid capitalization
Nenja
Dumbing of Age Book 10: “Original sin, and all that”
ESM
In this moment, Joyce is euphoric, not because of a phony Toedad’s parenting, but because she is enlightened by her own character development
Clif
I think she’s more saddened by it, but whatever.
Lingo
Hmm, I wonder how likely it is for Jacob to show up at this party.
King Daniel