I guess to me the whole practice doesn’t make sense in the first place, like… what comes to mind is a friend in the car with the family:
Friend: oh, look at the cute dog
Kid: WHERE
Friend: we passed it
Kid: Noooo where I didn’t see the cute dog where is it turn around NOOOOOOO
Friend: *never making that mistake again*
Quiet appreciation is okay. What’s problematic is (1) “appreciation” in such a way that’s loud or obvious enough that the subject is going to feel uncomfortable just going about their day, or (2) getting into the habit of ignoring that there’s a human person inside that lovely body.
I dunno – the asking of Amber out seemed perfectly fine. The asking of Ruth out seemed more… deflective than skeevy, but yes, calling her “this fine creature” was not their best moment.
BBCC
I don’t think they were asking Amber out on a date. I think that was meant as a peace offering/apology for reminding her of her dead friend (she’d just called them ‘new Mike’). RUTH, they wanted to ask on a date. And Ruth didn’t say no, I noticed, but ‘ask again later’.
thejeff
Maybe not, but ‘maybe I’ll ask her out instead’ kind of implies the same intent for both. Not necessarily, it could be “instead of doing something completely different with you” rather than just “ask her instead of you”.
Spencer
I *think* that was supposed to be Booster deflecting their failings at the floor meeting and trying to remain cool and flippant when they realized they crossed a line, but in practice it made Booster look like a creep who saw two obviously emotionally damaged women and thought “I can get in on this.”
GreyICE
Booster is good at being creepy. Even here they’re being less than great. They seem to slide between condescending to people and awkwardly hitting on them. It’s a pretty clear case of zero social skills.
Miles
Can’tbe that skeevy if she said yes
Wack'd
Why not?
Reltzik
Given that they’ve already asked out at least one female cast member and maybe two, their orientation(s) seem to include… female… romantic…
…. dammit, what’s the term for being romantically oriented towards females when the subject is enby and thus neither homoromantic or heteroromantic applies?
I’ve always preferred the ‘-philic’ descriptors, in that they make no assumptions on the gender of the individual, only of the gender of the people they’re interested in.
RacingTurtle
Trying to figure out if it’s deliberate that their shirt is the colors of the pan flag. They’re good colors, and I’d wear that shirt despite not IDing as pan, but Becky’s outfit has got me thinking about that kind of coding during this storyline.
dinajoyce
I seem to remember Dina having an outfit with the Ace flag colors a while back too.
Gynoromantic. It means romantic attraction to females and/or femininity. The masc version of that is androromantic. Also, romantic attraction to all genders would be omniromantic where panromantic would be being attracted to someone based on their personality with gender not really mattering. I hope that helps!
Rose by Any Other Name
Technical terms aside, “into women” has always worked for me.
Ie: “I am into both men and women.” or “Booster seems to be into women based on their asking Amber out.”
(Yes, I know the examples probably weren’t necessary – I’m a grammar teacher; it’s habit.)
Usarnavon
The term for that would be “nblw,” or “nonbinary-loving-women.” It’s the “Gender-Loving-Gender” format derived from the “wlw” (women-loving-women) and “mlm” (men-loving-men), and it’s been growing a lot of traction for its flexibility in situations like this. (As well as for umbrella situations like when you want to talk about same-sex attraction among women, but saying “lesbians” would make it sound like you’re excluding bi women.)
It’s a neat and flexible system, but you can kinda tell it wasn’t really made with men in mind. Cause, you know, MLM already has a meaning and it ain’t a pretty one.
Elf Royalty
i mean it kind of depends. i’m nonbinary, but also a lesbian, so. this is something that booster will probably fill us in on at some point organically. personally, i think terms like ‘gynophillic’ and ‘gynosexual/romantic/etc’ to be… really charged in a really uncomfortable way (phile/philic being heavily associated with very harmful groups or things, autogynophile being a transmisogynistic term developed by transphobes, gyno being heavily associated with genitalia in a lot of people’s minds…) some nb folk like the term trixic, some use sapphic, others use nblw, some use ‘traditional’ monikers like lesbian, bi, pan, or straight. it just depends on the person and their relationship to gender, as well as their relationship with attraction.
(also, obviously, some nb people use the aforementioned gynophilic/sexual/romantic)
I’m still on the fence. The floor meeting was bad but also a pretty big setup for Booster to fall in so I can’t completely count that against them. This interaction should be interesting since Booster initiated it. This will show if Booster’s really someone with more malicious intent.
I’m conflicted. On one hand Joe really needs a good call out on his more problematic views especially toward women, but on the other hand Booster’s shown they don’t know how to stop when a point is made and it could easily overflow onto Danny who probably doesn’t deserve a complete mental dissection.
Danny seems pretty aware of his flaws to me honestly; I feel like he’d just nod his head and keep eating at this point
Sirksome
You might be right I think he just internalizes all of that. If you go back to freshman family weekend even his parents pick at his insecurities and don’t seem to have much confidence in him so I think he learned to cope with it. Still it would be nice not to have Booster mentally pistol whip him considering his first appearance this arc was a joke about him struggling with self identity and I really doubt Booster’s gonna pull punches.
Daibhid C
Ah, the Johnny/Kirsty dynamic in the Johnny Maxwell books.
“The more she tried to help people by explaining to them how stupid they were, the more they just wandered off for no reason at all. The only reason Johnny hadn’t was that he knew how stupid he was.”.”
No need to waste your time – ever since Kids in The Hall did that series of Chicken Lady sketches ….. well, you know, the stuff existing is anchient …. they even had a picture of her parents, Farmer Brown and Rhoda the Rhode Island Red……
I agree. It’s a hell of a way to start a conversation. Builds off what they’re saying into a silly joke that someone can pick up and run with, or give the actual reason behind, either of which keeps things moving.
268 thoughts on “Chicken”
Ana Chronistic
Danno into bears? Would he feel better referring to women as bears?
(j/k idk how the Joeisms would work anyway)
also what’s wrong with quiet appreciation, or IF YOU MUST, referring to “Oval glasses” or “Mom’s hand-knit sweater” or w/e
Kyrik Michalowski
Jokingly: Because it means Joe can still treat them like meat and not people like he is afraid to do.
Seriously: Because more specific attributes like that might alert said individual to your ogling. Not sure if that makes it any better or worse.
Ana Chronistic
Rotisserie is better?
I mean, I was assuming Joe isn’t LITERALLY SHOUTING hear things if he claims no one can hear them
Ana Chronistic
Hear things? ??
Ana Chronistic
I guess to me the whole practice doesn’t make sense in the first place, like… what comes to mind is a friend in the car with the family:
Friend: oh, look at the cute dog
Kid: WHERE
Friend: we passed it
Kid: Noooo where I didn’t see the cute dog where is it turn around NOOOOOOO
Friend: *never making that mistake again*
Yotomoe
God. I feel like women could and should be able to be classified as bears.
I want a Big Bara GF.Reltzik
Hank’s into the lady bears.
Quiet appreciation is okay. What’s problematic is (1) “appreciation” in such a way that’s loud or obvious enough that the subject is going to feel uncomfortable just going about their day, or (2) getting into the habit of ignoring that there’s a human person inside that lovely body.
Beef
I mean there’s appreciation like “hey she’s hot” then there’s literal meat comparison
Osopescado
I cannot simply ignore the fact that the above comment was posted by “Beef”.
Formedras
Hooray for Crush Crush and Bearverly, I guess?
Wack'd
Some things never change.
Wack'd
…theories that Booster is the person in that chicken suit in three…two…
Jamie
Hm. Implies Booster had/has/will have a girlfriend and for some reason, that doesn’t seem likely to me.
AbacusWizard
Alternate universe; anything can happen!
Needfuldoer
Booster asked both Amber and Ruth out (in a kinda skeevy way, but still) after the floor meeting.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-11/01-this-bright-millennium/odd/
Rose by Any Other Name
I dunno – the asking of Amber out seemed perfectly fine. The asking of Ruth out seemed more… deflective than skeevy, but yes, calling her “this fine creature” was not their best moment.
BBCC
I don’t think they were asking Amber out on a date. I think that was meant as a peace offering/apology for reminding her of her dead friend (she’d just called them ‘new Mike’). RUTH, they wanted to ask on a date. And Ruth didn’t say no, I noticed, but ‘ask again later’.
thejeff
Maybe not, but ‘maybe I’ll ask her out instead’ kind of implies the same intent for both. Not necessarily, it could be “instead of doing something completely different with you” rather than just “ask her instead of you”.
Spencer
I *think* that was supposed to be Booster deflecting their failings at the floor meeting and trying to remain cool and flippant when they realized they crossed a line, but in practice it made Booster look like a creep who saw two obviously emotionally damaged women and thought “I can get in on this.”
GreyICE
Booster is good at being creepy. Even here they’re being less than great. They seem to slide between condescending to people and awkwardly hitting on them. It’s a pretty clear case of zero social skills.
Miles
Can’tbe that skeevy if she said yes
Wack'd
Why not?
Reltzik
Given that they’ve already asked out at least one female cast member and maybe two, their orientation(s) seem to include… female… romantic…
…. dammit, what’s the term for being romantically oriented towards females when the subject is enby and thus neither homoromantic or heteroromantic applies?
FGarber
Gynophilic
Deanatay
I’ve always preferred the ‘-philic’ descriptors, in that they make no assumptions on the gender of the individual, only of the gender of the people they’re interested in.
RacingTurtle
Trying to figure out if it’s deliberate that their shirt is the colors of the pan flag. They’re good colors, and I’d wear that shirt despite not IDing as pan, but Becky’s outfit has got me thinking about that kind of coding during this storyline.
dinajoyce
I seem to remember Dina having an outfit with the Ace flag colors a while back too.
Kamino Neko
There’s the neologism trixic.
Bluewind
Gynoromantic. It means romantic attraction to females and/or femininity. The masc version of that is androromantic. Also, romantic attraction to all genders would be omniromantic where panromantic would be being attracted to someone based on their personality with gender not really mattering. I hope that helps!
Rose by Any Other Name
Technical terms aside, “into women” has always worked for me.
Ie: “I am into both men and women.” or “Booster seems to be into women based on their asking Amber out.”
(Yes, I know the examples probably weren’t necessary – I’m a grammar teacher; it’s habit.)
Usarnavon
The term for that would be “nblw,” or “nonbinary-loving-women.” It’s the “Gender-Loving-Gender” format derived from the “wlw” (women-loving-women) and “mlm” (men-loving-men), and it’s been growing a lot of traction for its flexibility in situations like this. (As well as for umbrella situations like when you want to talk about same-sex attraction among women, but saying “lesbians” would make it sound like you’re excluding bi women.)
It’s a neat and flexible system, but you can kinda tell it wasn’t really made with men in mind. Cause, you know, MLM already has a meaning and it ain’t a pretty one.
Elf Royalty
i mean it kind of depends. i’m nonbinary, but also a lesbian, so. this is something that booster will probably fill us in on at some point organically. personally, i think terms like ‘gynophillic’ and ‘gynosexual/romantic/etc’ to be… really charged in a really uncomfortable way (phile/philic being heavily associated with very harmful groups or things, autogynophile being a transmisogynistic term developed by transphobes, gyno being heavily associated with genitalia in a lot of people’s minds…) some nb folk like the term trixic, some use sapphic, others use nblw, some use ‘traditional’ monikers like lesbian, bi, pan, or straight. it just depends on the person and their relationship to gender, as well as their relationship with attraction.
(also, obviously, some nb people use the aforementioned gynophilic/sexual/romantic)
ValdVin
Ahh, that’s the poultry vocabulary source. Thanks!
Sirksome
I’m less excited seeing Booster than I was their first appearance.
Phil
I’m already at saying “fuck off, booster” on sight.
Sirksome
I’m still on the fence. The floor meeting was bad but also a pretty big setup for Booster to fall in so I can’t completely count that against them. This interaction should be interesting since Booster initiated it. This will show if Booster’s really someone with more malicious intent.
Freemage
My literal reaction to the last panel was, “Oh, hey, it’s ShitMike.”
GreyICE
It really is, isn’t it?
Booster is going to turn out to be Mike with lipstick, hair dye, and head trauma.
Schpoonman
Oh hell yes, bring on Booster and Joe.
JessWitt
Hot oil and water, 12 o’clock.
Miles
Fun fact: oil and water will mix If there’s alcohol involved.
Sirksome
I’m conflicted. On one hand Joe really needs a good call out on his more problematic views especially toward women, but on the other hand Booster’s shown they don’t know how to stop when a point is made and it could easily overflow onto Danny who probably doesn’t deserve a complete mental dissection.
Diner Kinetic
Danny seems pretty aware of his flaws to me honestly; I feel like he’d just nod his head and keep eating at this point
Sirksome
You might be right I think he just internalizes all of that. If you go back to freshman family weekend even his parents pick at his insecurities and don’t seem to have much confidence in him so I think he learned to cope with it. Still it would be nice not to have Booster mentally pistol whip him considering his first appearance this arc was a joke about him struggling with self identity and I really doubt Booster’s gonna pull punches.
Daibhid C
Ah, the Johnny/Kirsty dynamic in the Johnny Maxwell books.
“The more she tried to help people by explaining to them how stupid they were, the more they just wandered off for no reason at all. The only reason Johnny hadn’t was that he knew how stupid he was.”.”
Nono
Oh, yay…. Booster.
woobie
yayyy….
Kyrik Michalowski
I feel like lots of us feel less excited to see Booster again after his uneccessary analysis of people.
Ferret
*their
Kyrik Michalowski
Ah, yes, sorry. You and Nono have it right.
Nono
“Their”.
Kyrik Michalowski
Booster what are you even doing here? Are you implying that you eat food too and at a similar time to other people? Madness.
Also in reponse to the alt text, I’ll be checking the results of that soon.
Wizard
You’re a braver person than I am.
Clif
Same. Or maybe just more motivated.
anonymousethatscurriesinthedarkness
No need to waste your time – ever since Kids in The Hall did that series of Chicken Lady sketches ….. well, you know, the stuff existing is anchient …. they even had a picture of her parents, Farmer Brown and Rhoda the Rhode Island Red……
[names were changed to protect the forgetful]
Demoted Oblivious
They say the experience left him scarred… scarred for life. ye-ahhh
butts
hell of a way to start a conversation, booster
Yotomoe
I mean to be fair they were just building off the energy the convo already had. No need to nuance around sexual chicken metaphors I believe.
Azhrei Vep
I agree. It’s a hell of a way to start a conversation. Builds off what they’re saying into a silly joke that someone can pick up and run with, or give the actual reason behind, either of which keeps things moving.
And it’s a legit funny joke.
Proto_Eevee
100% forgot Booster existed. I’m almost glad I did
Lenora
Same
Geneseepaws
Too late to get on this train? Same.
Jamie
Thought it was a rando until my brain pointed out that kind of line didn’t fit a throwaway character. …so I checked the tags.
MK15
So much negativity about Booster. I don’t mind the cast being expanded after 10 years and a major arc ending.
You guys all sound like you’re waiting for a “& Booster died on the way back to his home planet” panel 😛
MegaBee
Well…
Proto_Eevee
I was only half joking when I said that, I mostly just feel they haven’t found their place in the comic yet.
Mada
I’d be good with Booster/Danny in a slipshine.
Rose by Any Other Name
Likewise.
Demoted Oblivious
Is that where spit-roasting Joe comes in?
Null507
Slipshine! Slipshine! Slipshine!
Dr. T
I dig anyone who will stick that kind of imagery in someone’s head.
Suet