Amber’s not upset, she’s just realizing that she has a long night’s work ahead of her adding an “incest” tag to all her WalkyXSal fics, and is wondering if it’d be more efficient to write a script to do it.
Gotta keep things properly curated, y’know? I mean, one time she forgot there were two Rachels on her floor and the RachelXGalassos got mixed up with the OtherRachelXGalassos and it took days to fix.
In fairness, I don’t think she realizes that Danny was with Amber, and she definitely doesn’t recognize Amber as the one who’d stabbed her hand when they were younger.
Yeah, between what you’re pointing out and what others have below, Sal is missing a lot of the context to this situation. I still generally agree with her concerns, but *shrug*.
It kinda makes me wonder why sal doesn’t recognize Amber? Amber looks more like she did back then than Sal did back then. How did Amber even recognize her?
King Daniel
IIRC, she was already experiencing somewhat of a flashback to the robbery when she ran into Sal for the first time, and Sal just happened to be wearing the same outfit as on the day of the robbery on that day.
DinaWho
If the stabbing didn’t go to court, then it’s quite possible Sal didn’t even see Amber’s face in association with it – Sal was facing away from Amber when it happened, and may not have looked around to see her after she was stabbed (her eyes are squeezed shut iirc in the stabbing panel and all panels showing Sal immediately post-stabbing).
Lin
You also don’t generally get victim impact statements in juvenile courts, which is how that incident would have been processed. Juvenile courts are significantly different from adult criminal courts.
No, not really fair at all.
Walky and Dorothy are broken up. Walky can do what he wants with any other consenting adult. It is not Sal’s business, nor Dorothy’s, nor anyone else’s.
Sal is being a jerk by suggesting that Walky is not “choked up” about Dorothy.
I will grant that Walky’s defense of “garbage roof” was… not well thought out, but that’s mostly because Sal has no context on the level of depression and self-loathing that Walky has been dealing with. Mocking him for it is only going to reinforce his depression and do nothing to help him cope or recover.
On the other hand, make-outs with Amber might help both to feel like they are worthwhile as human beings by providing pleasure and relief to one another.
Sorry if all of my (admittedly late) comments are in the same vein, but seriously, I don’t think I have ever been more angry and disappointed with Sal. And that includes her time in It’s Walky.
I mean i get what you are saying but i disagree on them being “good” for each other. So far their relationship has kind of hinged on them meeting at a “garbage roof” where they are allowed to hate/feel sorry for themselves. Venting is important but they haven’t really talked about anything important and to be fair just because they ARE making out doesn’t mean it’s a necessarily healthy mechanism for Walky to make out with Amber right now.
Imagine how she’d feel if in the end Walky DIDN’T have feelings for her he just didn’t want to be alone. She could be more invested and walky might not be ready it could devastate how Amber feels.
Both of them are in a bad place right now in their minds so yeah it might be good for them to meet each other but it also means they can just easy help each other continue to spiral into bad behaviors as well. So far it seems Walky is using Amber specifically to ignore his feelings and what’s going on in real life (hence continuously being stuck on his phone talking to her)
In short: Walky needs to confront what’s going on and while i don’t think Sal is completely in the right here, she does have a point, this is Walky’s coping mechanism and it’s probably not very healthy
I think I mostly agree with you, actually. I do agree with Sal that Walky’s probably making a mistake, but she’s going about it all wrong if she’s trying to help him realize that. Walky has a right to try what he’s trying, and even if Sal were certain that it was a bad idea that doesn’t give her a right to be rude to him about it. And the comments she’s making aren’t really going to do anything helpful for any of them, anyway, just get them all more upset.
There’s probably something to be said about Sal and Walky’s history and how they have trouble interacting in a healthy manner, but I’m very much the wrong person to comment on that.
And, I dunno, I guess I’m not great at keeping the entirety of these situations coherent in my mind while I’m posting in this comment section. *Shrug*
I can’t tell what Sal is about in the last panel. Is she annoyed Tharja walky called Amber garbage? Or that it doesn’t matter? Or did she finally connect the dots?
Yeah, WE know what Walky means by “garbage roof”, but Sal does not. To her it just sounds like Walky is saying that kissing Amber doesn’t count and/or that Amber is trashy
BBCC
Oh shit, I didn’t even think of that.
thejeff
Yeah, out of context, the whole Garbage Roof thing sounds pretty horible.
ruhrow
Also, even if Sal were able to parse Walky’s gibberish by virtue of having known him a looonnnng time…pretty sure that the concept of garbage roof, as Walky and Amber are using it, is ALSO worth a ‘Wow, bro.’
Perhaps more of a “Wow, bro…you’re in a darker place than I thought you were and maybe need some actual help,” but a ‘Wow, bro’ nonetheless.
thejeff
I don’t think it’s all that bad as they first laid it out, but it does seem like it could shade over into something nasty pretty easily. As an occasional outlet, it’s good. As a full time habit or worse the basis for a relationship, it’s a problem.
Emily
It kinda seems like it is a full-time habit for both of them (or at least Amber for sure) “Garbage Roof” is just an excuse to verbalize it without anyone confronting them over how incredibly unproductive that mentality is.
Sal doesn’t really have much of a high-ground after basically calling amber “rebound-whoever”. Acting shocked at a “It’s not serious” after that seems a bit disingenuous.
barefootbiker
Maybe, but hey, disingenuity never stopped any siblings I’ve ever known from fighting over stupid shit with each other.
BBCC
I’d say there’s a difference between calling Amber a rebound (which is true) and not knowing her name, or even just saying it wasn’t serious, is different than saying ‘Nothing we do up here matters’ right in front of Amber as the person who was just kissing her. Especially since, rebound and casual or not, it’s still an experience they’ve both had that could affect either.
Durandal_1707
Also: At least Walky’s not sleeping with his TA for better grades.
Geneseepaws
Na, he’s got Amber to fix the grades, tho’ he’s not sleeping with her yet.
Durandal_1707
He turned down Amber’s offer to fix the grades.
ThrenGrey
He did try to, though.
Havtorn
Maybe the stigma of being a rebound has lessened since I was younger. Back then calling someone a rebound was a pretty nasty slur in a very “Don’t think you’re as good as the rest of us” kind of way.
Mooness
I think in this situation Sal doesn’t really care about “whoever-this-is”/Amber/rebound at all. So I don’t think Sal was really insulting her purposefully. I think her whole surprise/disgust revolves around Walky’s behavior. Sal has been shown to have strong morality, even though it’s not standard morality.
If she connects the dots, I’d call bullshit. She really doesn’t have a valid reason to think it’d be Amazi-Girl other than her happening to be on top of a roof that people apparently go up on to smoke weed, anyway, etc.
Assuming she’s able to. Before this, Walky’s face only mildly triggered her anxieties. Now that she’s fully associated Walky with her NEMESIS, kissing him is going to feel a LOT different.
I dunno. Going from Dorothy to Amber it’s VERY clear that Walky has a type.
Also that lewd of Amber and Walky banging on garbage roof is closer to being canon than ever before.
383 thoughts on “Choked”
Ana Chronistic
“Bro, ah gotta teach ya ’bout how ta talk dirty f’REAL”
“idk that sounds MORE gross”
Doctor_Who
Amber’s not upset, she’s just realizing that she has a long night’s work ahead of her adding an “incest” tag to all her WalkyXSal fics, and is wondering if it’d be more efficient to write a script to do it.
Gotta keep things properly curated, y’know? I mean, one time she forgot there were two Rachels on her floor and the RachelXGalassos got mixed up with the OtherRachelXGalassos and it took days to fix.
Walky_Talky
I believe the technical term is “twincest”.
Mad Maple
“wincest”*
Yet_One_More_Idiot
Yes, Twincest is Wincest. 😉
Bunnyfufu
winchesters?
David Doty
No, Wincest is Twincest, but not all Twincest is Wincest.
David Doty
NO WAIT THEY’RE NOT TWINS ERASE MY MESSAGE SHUT UP YOUR THE STUPID ONE!
a/snow mous/e
*offers hugs*
Someguy
*hugs and rubs head* shhhhhh, it’s okay. We all f*ck up sometimes
Joebo
The first rule of Garbage Roof is you do not talk about Garbage Roof!
The Second rule of Garbage Roof is… YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT GARBAGE ROOF!
Zach
The third rule is that nothing you do matters on garbing roof.
So, whatever, man.
Screwball
I don’t know, something tells me this is going to have repercussions. After all, Amber did just pash her Nemesis’s twin brother…
3oranges
The fourth rule of Garbage Roof is that if someone asks if you’re a cop, you have to tell them. It’s only sporting.
Charlie Spencer
The fifth rule is that if someone asks if you are a god, you say YES!
Deanatay
Rule #6: ALWAYS. EXPECT. NINJAS.
Clif
Rule #7 is that there is no Rule #7.
Victor
Rule #34: There is slash of it. No exceptions.
Batman
Rule 7 is don’t take the piss.
Aeron
If this is your first night on Garbage Roof, you HAVE to be garbage.
ShinyNeen
Well hey Sal, way to bring up a bunch of important issues right out the gate. Harsh, but fair!
Stu
In fairness, I don’t think she realizes that Danny was with Amber, and she definitely doesn’t recognize Amber as the one who’d stabbed her hand when they were younger.
ShinyNeen
Yeah, between what you’re pointing out and what others have below, Sal is missing a lot of the context to this situation. I still generally agree with her concerns, but *shrug*.
Bonnabella
It kinda makes me wonder why sal doesn’t recognize Amber? Amber looks more like she did back then than Sal did back then. How did Amber even recognize her?
King Daniel
IIRC, she was already experiencing somewhat of a flashback to the robbery when she ran into Sal for the first time, and Sal just happened to be wearing the same outfit as on the day of the robbery on that day.
DinaWho
If the stabbing didn’t go to court, then it’s quite possible Sal didn’t even see Amber’s face in association with it – Sal was facing away from Amber when it happened, and may not have looked around to see her after she was stabbed (her eyes are squeezed shut iirc in the stabbing panel and all panels showing Sal immediately post-stabbing).
Lin
You also don’t generally get victim impact statements in juvenile courts, which is how that incident would have been processed. Juvenile courts are significantly different from adult criminal courts.
LeslieBean4Shizzle
No, not really fair at all.
Walky and Dorothy are broken up. Walky can do what he wants with any other consenting adult. It is not Sal’s business, nor Dorothy’s, nor anyone else’s.
Sal is being a jerk by suggesting that Walky is not “choked up” about Dorothy.
I will grant that Walky’s defense of “garbage roof” was… not well thought out, but that’s mostly because Sal has no context on the level of depression and self-loathing that Walky has been dealing with. Mocking him for it is only going to reinforce his depression and do nothing to help him cope or recover.
On the other hand, make-outs with Amber might help both to feel like they are worthwhile as human beings by providing pleasure and relief to one another.
Sorry if all of my (admittedly late) comments are in the same vein, but seriously, I don’t think I have ever been more angry and disappointed with Sal. And that includes her time in It’s Walky.
Zeve
I mean i get what you are saying but i disagree on them being “good” for each other. So far their relationship has kind of hinged on them meeting at a “garbage roof” where they are allowed to hate/feel sorry for themselves. Venting is important but they haven’t really talked about anything important and to be fair just because they ARE making out doesn’t mean it’s a necessarily healthy mechanism for Walky to make out with Amber right now.
Imagine how she’d feel if in the end Walky DIDN’T have feelings for her he just didn’t want to be alone. She could be more invested and walky might not be ready it could devastate how Amber feels.
Both of them are in a bad place right now in their minds so yeah it might be good for them to meet each other but it also means they can just easy help each other continue to spiral into bad behaviors as well. So far it seems Walky is using Amber specifically to ignore his feelings and what’s going on in real life (hence continuously being stuck on his phone talking to her)
In short: Walky needs to confront what’s going on and while i don’t think Sal is completely in the right here, she does have a point, this is Walky’s coping mechanism and it’s probably not very healthy
ShinyNeen
I think I mostly agree with you, actually. I do agree with Sal that Walky’s probably making a mistake, but she’s going about it all wrong if she’s trying to help him realize that. Walky has a right to try what he’s trying, and even if Sal were certain that it was a bad idea that doesn’t give her a right to be rude to him about it. And the comments she’s making aren’t really going to do anything helpful for any of them, anyway, just get them all more upset.
There’s probably something to be said about Sal and Walky’s history and how they have trouble interacting in a healthy manner, but I’m very much the wrong person to comment on that.
And, I dunno, I guess I’m not great at keeping the entirety of these situations coherent in my mind while I’m posting in this comment section. *Shrug*
Nono
I can’t tell what Sal is about in the last panel. Is she annoyed Tharja walky called Amber garbage? Or that it doesn’t matter? Or did she finally connect the dots?
Pablo360
I think it’s the “IT DOESN’T MATTER” in front of the other half of IT, two seconds after IT.
Pablo360
That’s it, I’m switching my gravatar to something far more logical and less pointless-in-joke-y.
Doctor_Who
Next strip: Pennywise wanders off sadly.
Fart Captor
Yeah, WE know what Walky means by “garbage roof”, but Sal does not. To her it just sounds like Walky is saying that kissing Amber doesn’t count and/or that Amber is trashy
BBCC
Oh shit, I didn’t even think of that.
thejeff
Yeah, out of context, the whole Garbage Roof thing sounds pretty horible.
ruhrow
Also, even if Sal were able to parse Walky’s gibberish by virtue of having known him a looonnnng time…pretty sure that the concept of garbage roof, as Walky and Amber are using it, is ALSO worth a ‘Wow, bro.’
Perhaps more of a “Wow, bro…you’re in a darker place than I thought you were and maybe need some actual help,” but a ‘Wow, bro’ nonetheless.
thejeff
I don’t think it’s all that bad as they first laid it out, but it does seem like it could shade over into something nasty pretty easily. As an occasional outlet, it’s good. As a full time habit or worse the basis for a relationship, it’s a problem.
Emily
It kinda seems like it is a full-time habit for both of them (or at least Amber for sure) “Garbage Roof” is just an excuse to verbalize it without anyone confronting them over how incredibly unproductive that mentality is.
Havtorn
Sal doesn’t really have much of a high-ground after basically calling amber “rebound-whoever”. Acting shocked at a “It’s not serious” after that seems a bit disingenuous.
barefootbiker
Maybe, but hey, disingenuity never stopped any siblings I’ve ever known from fighting over stupid shit with each other.
BBCC
I’d say there’s a difference between calling Amber a rebound (which is true) and not knowing her name, or even just saying it wasn’t serious, is different than saying ‘Nothing we do up here matters’ right in front of Amber as the person who was just kissing her. Especially since, rebound and casual or not, it’s still an experience they’ve both had that could affect either.
Durandal_1707
Also: At least Walky’s not sleeping with his TA for better grades.
Geneseepaws
Na, he’s got Amber to fix the grades, tho’ he’s not sleeping with her yet.
Durandal_1707
He turned down Amber’s offer to fix the grades.
ThrenGrey
He did try to, though.
Havtorn
Maybe the stigma of being a rebound has lessened since I was younger. Back then calling someone a rebound was a pretty nasty slur in a very “Don’t think you’re as good as the rest of us” kind of way.
Mooness
I think in this situation Sal doesn’t really care about “whoever-this-is”/Amber/rebound at all. So I don’t think Sal was really insulting her purposefully. I think her whole surprise/disgust revolves around Walky’s behavior. Sal has been shown to have strong morality, even though it’s not standard morality.
DailyBrad
If she connects the dots, I’d call bullshit. She really doesn’t have a valid reason to think it’d be Amazi-Girl other than her happening to be on top of a roof that people apparently go up on to smoke weed, anyway, etc.
BBCC
The only way I can think of her figuring it out is if she used the phone tracker app that only works on AG’s phone and it lead her to Amber.
butts
WHUH OH
…boy, sal, your mouth sure is off-center
King Daniel
The Willis giveth, and the Willis taketh away.
ShinyNeen
And Willis has struck ships harder than this before, too.
… I would’ve gone with ‘sunk’, but I think Ruth/Billie went through the roughest waters of all.
butting
Damnèd be the name of the Willis.
Fart Captor
THE SMOOCHING CAN STILL RESUME LATER
You know. After she’s done panicking
Deanatay
Assuming she’s able to. Before this, Walky’s face only mildly triggered her anxieties. Now that she’s fully associated Walky with her NEMESIS, kissing him is going to feel a LOT different.
Mr D phone posting
*suggestive eyebrow wiggling*
Yotomoe
I dunno. Going from Dorothy to Amber it’s VERY clear that Walky has a type.
Also that lewd of Amber and Walky banging on garbage roof is closer to being canon than ever before.
newllend(henryvolt)
Well for God knows what reason I thought they were going to have more privacy on garbage roof but apparently I was wrong.
Doctor_Who
There’s a sign-up sheet to reserve it in advance, but it’s only enforced by the honor system.
newllend(henryvolt)
Since when did Garbage Roof become an Honor Society? There are only two members and the only requirements to join is that you haft to hate yourself.
Bonnabella
Wait, what lewd. WHERE.
Yotomoe
https://imgur.com/a/1MWKkTd (nsfw) (obviously)
Deanatay
Wait, that IS Amber, right? You didn’t darken her hair much, so it looks a lot like Dorothy…
modulusshift
Well, Danny did too. Until Ethan.
Bunk
Aaaaand Amber has the swift realization that things just got significantly more complicated about her simple Garbage Roof fling
AnvilPro
Lmao, if Sal thinks what I think she thinks that’s a really funny joke
Clif
So what do you think Sal thinks she think?
Beef
Either that Walky called Amber garbage or that picking up Amber as a rebound doesn’t matter
jeffepp
Or, sidechick. Remember, Walky was skipping out on lunches with Dorothy, to go meet Amber.
Desslok