Too concentrated! We’ve been in the same scene for too long! I can’t handle all of the characters being in the same place! Where are the cliffhangers??? Willis you didn’t leave anyone to meanwhile to!!!!!
No B-plot, were I think the exact words (our one big cutaway, AG escaping, still being part of the A-plot,) and the twitter handle referring to a Bottle Episode also suggests that (as the term refers to TV episodes that only have one location and a limited cast of characters, to save on production costs in live-action. Much more complicated in drawn mediums.)
Yumi
I kind of assumed the the Twitter handle (in addition to being a Community reference) was a quarantine joke.
Regalli
That would also make sense. By coincidence it works both ways.
Geneseepaws
Asks Steven to play the Police; message is a bottle.
Meanwhile, Ruthless: Hey, girlfriend of mine- y’know how you’re a reporter and all? Boy have I got a big scoop for you. Amazi-Girl’s father like, totally kidnapped a buncha people and may have done some other newsworthy criminal acts along the way. Oh, and your psudeo-adoptive brother Walky may or may not be over there.
Meanwhile, Mr. and Mrs. Brown:
Meanwhile, Mike:
Meanwhile, Sal: “I can hear the cry of the people.. someone needs me! UP UP AND AWAY!”
Meanwhile, Robin: “I wonder if I can put more cadburry eggs into this.”
Okay, so one or two of them might be somewhat useful. 😛
HeySo
Oh, this site’s lousy formatting rules. Keep forgetting it doesn’t use BBCode brackets like most every other discussion board. To fix:
Browns: [Arguement]
Mike: [Coma]
Miri
… It isn’t a discussion board, it’s a comments section. Which uses HTML. Which is, I think, more common in comments sections… [/pedantry]
HeySo
It really isn’t. Haven’t really seen HTML formating as a thing since like, the 90s, maybe early 2000s. Presently, I can’t think of a single other comment section that uses HTML bracketing. Moreover, I can barely think of any discussion mediums at all that still utilize it.
On that note, I’m used to discussion board being the general term, while forum, bulletin board, chat imbed, comments section, etc, would be the specialized contextualizations. You’re welcome to provide references which recontextualize the terminology, but in the meantime, my intended application should have been fairly intuitive regardless of appropriate terminology.
Given that, neither pedantry (which would apply if you were correcting my terminology [by providing the appropriate term for substitution], rather than simply opposing it, which you did not) nor semanticism (which would be concerned with situations where *intended meaning* wasn’t clear) would apply to the matter.
..
[/pedantry] 😛
HeySo
Context correction:
Haven’t really seen HTML formating as a dominant thing since like, the 90s, maybe early 2000s.
JohnInCA
Disqus is pretty common for comment sections, and it allows a sub-set of HTML tags, particularly for bold, italics, etc.
Random832
For a while it was conventional wisdom that it was “impossible” to guarantee that only a safe subset of HTML got through (this was always a ridiculous belief, but made *some* sense when people tended to do these things with search-and-replace instead of a proper parser), so it was considered “more secure” to replace all < brackets up front and then process tags for something like bbcode.
Still trying to figure out what is so hard about HTML formatting but easy about non-standard markup. It’s just one more thing to remember and I already know HTML.
Demolition Fan
Also HTML is a clearly specified standard, ratified by a multi-member committee, thus ensuring an expected usage and meaning, whereas other options (like BBcode) are not.
Daniel M Ball
so…what you’re saying is that HTML was Designed by committee.
Marsh Maryrose
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
Which, to be fair, it can be, depending on the committee.
Seregiel
I think they are referring to Robin Williams’ sketch about the body being designed by committee but I could be wrong. It’s a hilarious sketch.
Allowing full HTML would give the userbase way more control of the site than they’re supposed to, and if you’re going to add in the layer that allows you to limit the tags anyway, might as well use proprietary tags so as to avoid confusion.
thejeff
Mostly that if you’re used to using one in comment forums, remembering to switch to another for this one is hard.
HTML’s also a bit more complex than some, too no purpose since this is a limited subset anyway.
And there’s no preview to make sure you got it right.
Bicycle Bill
That’s the biggest problem right there. And then remembering which codes are allowed and which aren’t. For example. Willis allows a tag for italics and bold, but doesn’t allow underlining. ̲S̲o̲ ̲y̲o̲u̲ ̲n̲e̲e̲d̲ ̲t̲o̲ ̲g̲e̲t̲ ̲c̲r̲e̲a̲t̲i̲v̲e̲…..
A quick Google search told me I was wrong, but for a moment I though you were referring to the All That skit from a thousand years ago where they did a parody rap about meat, which involved superhero costumes.
I don’t know why, but that comment just reminded me of Rorschach’s line in Watchmen. He doesn’t have Joyce trapped in there with him, they’re trapped in there with her. And she’s proven how strong her right hook is.
I THINK Faz was getting in the van in his last appearance (that one panel of him obscured by the van door,) since he’d previously been running towards it.
But if he was abandoned, wouldn’t be the first time. Interesting options either way.
I’m starting to think he might. Blaine the numbwit might just use his galaxy-brain energy to try to pin this all on Faz. And incidentally, why was he using Faz for help? How was he going to explain this shit?
Yup. No idea how someone with broken ribs can throw a person(albeit unconscious) into a van AND get into aforementioned van and drive away before the half-dozen people in sprinting distance can even move.
Yep, there are a couple thousand or so white Ram Tradesman vans in southern Indiana in the age bracket of the one in the picture, 2011-18. I happen to know that because that is a source of an engine I was strongly considering for a car I’m building but discarded because the GM LS architecture V8 engine is less expensive and easier to find even if it’s much heavier than the Pentastar V6. But yeah, looked at a bunch of those trying to find a cheap engine.
Needfuldoer
The Chevy Express is the box cheap LS swaps come in. Just look at what Sloppy Mechanics did with a van engine, a Chevy Colorado pickup, a cheap turbo, and junkyard parts. That whole engine family is practically Lego.
So this is where Blaine takes a hostage and hopes he can get away with it somehow? He’s not going to be able to avoid a prison sentence just because he has a hostage.
And all of this because Sarah-No. I am so done with this dabate. Yes, American cops are racist assholes, but saying that you have to protect yourself against predators, serial killers and kidnappers… that takes away responsibility from the authorities. This world is fucked up, but cynicism is just going to make thinsg worst.
Regalli
The police have been called, but they aren’t here yet for reasons unknown. Should they have called earlier? Yeah, that would probably have helped. But AG had a proven track record with hostage situations Sarah was counting on (underestimating how sleep-deprived she is,) and if Faz hadn’t gotten the jump on Walky, things would have remained stable. (Also, I have… suspicions about why no one’s shown up yet, given the ‘Mike discusses the corrupt police’ flashback occurred AFTER Sarah’s bit. Realism-straining, most likely, but suspicions nonetheless that would probably have been a problem no matter WHEN they called.)
Police are an unknown variable. Hell, they’re at least five different ones. Sarah was VASTLY underestimating Blaine’s scariness and overestimating the magic AG can work, to be sure. But seriously you really want to tell me given Blaine’s actions here before that he’d react LESS violently and hostage-threatening to the police than he is to kids who can’t arrest him and he’s only now perceiving as a real threat?
Shit would have hit the fan regardless. It was a bad call on Sarah’s and AG’s part, but a bad call made on not-completely-incomprehensible data points given the known superheroics a month ago.
abysswatcher1993
I know, but these kids aren’t the phantom thieves or thr power rangers. They are just college kids, and expecting them to be able to fight criminals is unfair. Without AG a different group of teens in a similar situation would have died early without intervention from the authorities.
The risks were too big to not call for help, and this isn’t Walkyverse.
Kali
I mean, I’ve been seeing this stuff in the comments for a while now, but the moment that the kidnapped people (except Amber/AG) were out, and had the time to, it’s implied 911 was called. Yeah, Amber should have called, but we know why she didn’t, and we know why Becky didn’t call either.
In short, yeah Sarah said they shouldn’t, but the second the call could be made, it was, so can we stop saying these kids are being dumb and really should have called the police, when they did?
thejeff
But AG was involved, so saying “without AG” doesn’t really make sense.
I do agree with the general point of Sarah’s concern about being killed by cops being a bit much in the already life-threatening situation, but there were other reasons not to call them. Maybe not good ones, but understandable.
cartoogle
I don’t get the impression the police were called. Ambulances were called and Becky tweeted whatever it is she tweeted, and that’s it.
There’s 333 miles to the Canadian border, he’s got a full tank of gas, a half-catatonic hostage, it’s light out, and he’s wearing a mask.
Ellegos
“Hit it.”
Matthew Evan Davis
Unfortunately, much like Avalon in the Walkyverse Indiana has been running on slower time and when they hit the Michigan border things snap back to 2020 and it turns out the border is closed.
Matthew Evan Davis
And damn, use some punctuation there why don’t you, Davis? Stupid run-on.
224 thoughts on “Co-conspirator”
OtterBoy1
Too concentrated! We’ve been in the same scene for too long! I can’t handle all of the characters being in the same place! Where are the cliffhangers??? Willis you didn’t leave anyone to meanwhile to!!!!!
Yumi
I think he’s said that there will be no real “MEANWHILE”s during this arc.
Regalli
No B-plot, were I think the exact words (our one big cutaway, AG escaping, still being part of the A-plot,) and the twitter handle referring to a Bottle Episode also suggests that (as the term refers to TV episodes that only have one location and a limited cast of characters, to save on production costs in live-action. Much more complicated in drawn mediums.)
Yumi
I kind of assumed the the Twitter handle (in addition to being a Community reference) was a quarantine joke.
Regalli
That would also make sense. By coincidence it works both ways.
Geneseepaws
Asks Steven to play the Police; message is a bottle.
Reltzik
We did do some meanwhiles cutting back and forth between Amber/AG and the rest of the hostages.
Yumi
Regalli’s explanation was a better phrasing what I meant by “real ‘MEANWHILE’s.”
Wereg
Thank God. Those get old fast.
Willo
Sure there is, there’s Robin, or Mike, or Mr or Mrs Brown. Or Ruthless. There’s options. 😛
HeySo
Meanwhile, Ruthless: Hey, girlfriend of mine- y’know how you’re a reporter and all? Boy have I got a big scoop for you. Amazi-Girl’s father like, totally kidnapped a buncha people and may have done some other newsworthy criminal acts along the way. Oh, and your psudeo-adoptive brother Walky may or may not be over there.
Meanwhile, Mr. and Mrs. Brown:
Meanwhile, Mike:
Meanwhile, Sal: “I can hear the cry of the people.. someone needs me! UP UP AND AWAY!”
Meanwhile, Robin: “I wonder if I can put more cadburry eggs into this.”
Okay, so one or two of them might be somewhat useful. 😛
HeySo
Oh, this site’s lousy formatting rules. Keep forgetting it doesn’t use BBCode brackets like most every other discussion board. To fix:
Browns: [Arguement]
Mike: [Coma]
Miri
… It isn’t a discussion board, it’s a comments section. Which uses HTML. Which is, I think, more common in comments sections… [/pedantry]
HeySo
It really isn’t. Haven’t really seen HTML formating as a thing since like, the 90s, maybe early 2000s. Presently, I can’t think of a single other comment section that uses HTML bracketing. Moreover, I can barely think of any discussion mediums at all that still utilize it.
On that note, I’m used to discussion board being the general term, while forum, bulletin board, chat imbed, comments section, etc, would be the specialized contextualizations. You’re welcome to provide references which recontextualize the terminology, but in the meantime, my intended application should have been fairly intuitive regardless of appropriate terminology.
Given that, neither pedantry (which would apply if you were correcting my terminology [by providing the appropriate term for substitution], rather than simply opposing it, which you did not) nor semanticism (which would be concerned with situations where *intended meaning* wasn’t clear) would apply to the matter.
..
[/pedantry] 😛
HeySo
Context correction:
Haven’t really seen HTML formating as a dominant thing since like, the 90s, maybe early 2000s.
JohnInCA
Disqus is pretty common for comment sections, and it allows a sub-set of HTML tags, particularly for bold, italics, etc.
Random832
For a while it was conventional wisdom that it was “impossible” to guarantee that only a safe subset of HTML got through (this was always a ridiculous belief, but made *some* sense when people tended to do these things with search-and-replace instead of a proper parser), so it was considered “more secure” to replace all < brackets up front and then process tags for something like bbcode.
Vulcanodon
Still trying to figure out what is so hard about HTML formatting but easy about non-standard markup. It’s just one more thing to remember and I already know HTML.
Demolition Fan
Also HTML is a clearly specified standard, ratified by a multi-member committee, thus ensuring an expected usage and meaning, whereas other options (like BBcode) are not.
Daniel M Ball
so…what you’re saying is that HTML was Designed by committee.
Marsh Maryrose
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
Which, to be fair, it can be, depending on the committee.
Seregiel
I think they are referring to Robin Williams’ sketch about the body being designed by committee but I could be wrong. It’s a hilarious sketch.
Kamino Neko
Allowing full HTML would give the userbase way more control of the site than they’re supposed to, and if you’re going to add in the layer that allows you to limit the tags anyway, might as well use proprietary tags so as to avoid confusion.
thejeff
Mostly that if you’re used to using one in comment forums, remembering to switch to another for this one is hard.
HTML’s also a bit more complex than some, too no purpose since this is a limited subset anyway.
And there’s no preview to make sure you got it right.
Bicycle Bill
That’s the biggest problem right there. And then remembering which codes are allowed and which aren’t. For example. Willis allows a tag for italics and bold, but doesn’t allow underlining. ̲S̲o̲ ̲y̲o̲u̲ ̲n̲e̲e̲d̲ ̲t̲o̲ ̲g̲e̲t̲ ̲c̲r̲e̲a̲t̲i̲v̲e̲…..
Heavensrun
I guess we could periodically meanwhile off to Toedad’s corpse.
Ana Chronistic
No fair running in a van!
Also your Adventure Sync steps don’t count!
(Scary Dotty is scary, DAMN)
butts
no regrets
OtterBoy1
Blaine’s lookin like Super Meat Boy
Lanie
A quick Google search told me I was wrong, but for a moment I though you were referring to the All That skit from a thousand years ago where they did a parody rap about meat, which involved superhero costumes.
HeySo
A quick Google search told me I was wrong
You as well? :/
Strangeshapes
I think it’s only now Blaine realizes he actually killed Toedad.
Doctor_Who
Did Blaine just abandon Faz?
Not that I’m surprised he would, but that could have interesting consequences.
Olivia Cheatham
I think Faz is in the back with Joyce.
porthos9438
I don’t know why, but that comment just reminded me of Rorschach’s line in Watchmen. He doesn’t have Joyce trapped in there with him, they’re trapped in there with her. And she’s proven how strong her right hook is.
King Daniel
Her right hook didn’t stop Blaine a few days ago.
Mehe
I’m pretty sure Faz is in the van.
And I hope he’s plenty scared right now.
All-Purpose Guru
He’s too stupid or self-absorbed to be scared.
Regalli
I THINK Faz was getting in the van in his last appearance (that one panel of him obscured by the van door,) since he’d previously been running towards it.
But if he was abandoned, wouldn’t be the first time. Interesting options either way.
Reltzik
ALL of this could have interesting consequences.
Foxhack
Faz is driving.
Foxhack
Ah wait no, I thought Blaine had jumped onto the back with Joyce.
Needfuldoer
How can that be!
Twitcher
I’m starting to think he might. Blaine the numbwit might just use his galaxy-brain energy to try to pin this all on Faz. And incidentally, why was he using Faz for help? How was he going to explain this shit?
Sirksome
Wow. A bunch of people called this but it’s somehow still disappointing.
Wereg
Yup. No idea how someone with broken ribs can throw a person(albeit unconscious) into a van AND get into aforementioned van and drive away before the half-dozen people in sprinting distance can even move.
timemonkey
Sarah’s gonna kill that van with her bat.
Or Joyce is going to wake up and wreck him.
Needfuldoer
At least it will be easier to find with one mirror smashed off.
Opus the Poet
Yep, there are a couple thousand or so white Ram Tradesman vans in southern Indiana in the age bracket of the one in the picture, 2011-18. I happen to know that because that is a source of an engine I was strongly considering for a car I’m building but discarded because the GM LS architecture V8 engine is less expensive and easier to find even if it’s much heavier than the Pentastar V6. But yeah, looked at a bunch of those trying to find a cheap engine.
Needfuldoer
The Chevy Express is the box cheap LS swaps come in. Just look at what Sloppy Mechanics did with a van engine, a Chevy Colorado pickup, a cheap turbo, and junkyard parts. That whole engine family is practically Lego.
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqqxeQgIg6f8QXcMvK4EliGdvmbu52vYq
If I had the time and tools, I’d copy this truck or build a Buick Electra or Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser wagon. Sleepers are awesome.
Axel
ooh, people thought Walky had a gun. what if he found a paintball gun? make it nice and noticeable
Kyrik Michalowski
So this is where Blaine takes a hostage and hopes he can get away with it somehow? He’s not going to be able to avoid a prison sentence just because he has a hostage.
C.T Phipps
I assume he thinks that no one will call the police because they’re in a superhero comic.
Regalli
Oh, like someone grabbing the van with a grappling hook or otherwise latching on is gonna attract less attention?
Bicycle Bill
Someone was hanging onto a car with a grappling hook and being towed along on a skateboard like a water skier at Cypress Gardens and no one noiced…..
abysswatcher1993
And all of this because Sarah-No. I am so done with this dabate. Yes, American cops are racist assholes, but saying that you have to protect yourself against predators, serial killers and kidnappers… that takes away responsibility from the authorities. This world is fucked up, but cynicism is just going to make thinsg worst.
Regalli
The police have been called, but they aren’t here yet for reasons unknown. Should they have called earlier? Yeah, that would probably have helped. But AG had a proven track record with hostage situations Sarah was counting on (underestimating how sleep-deprived she is,) and if Faz hadn’t gotten the jump on Walky, things would have remained stable. (Also, I have… suspicions about why no one’s shown up yet, given the ‘Mike discusses the corrupt police’ flashback occurred AFTER Sarah’s bit. Realism-straining, most likely, but suspicions nonetheless that would probably have been a problem no matter WHEN they called.)
Police are an unknown variable. Hell, they’re at least five different ones. Sarah was VASTLY underestimating Blaine’s scariness and overestimating the magic AG can work, to be sure. But seriously you really want to tell me given Blaine’s actions here before that he’d react LESS violently and hostage-threatening to the police than he is to kids who can’t arrest him and he’s only now perceiving as a real threat?
Shit would have hit the fan regardless. It was a bad call on Sarah’s and AG’s part, but a bad call made on not-completely-incomprehensible data points given the known superheroics a month ago.
abysswatcher1993
I know, but these kids aren’t the phantom thieves or thr power rangers. They are just college kids, and expecting them to be able to fight criminals is unfair. Without AG a different group of teens in a similar situation would have died early without intervention from the authorities.
The risks were too big to not call for help, and this isn’t Walkyverse.
Kali
I mean, I’ve been seeing this stuff in the comments for a while now, but the moment that the kidnapped people (except Amber/AG) were out, and had the time to, it’s implied 911 was called. Yeah, Amber should have called, but we know why she didn’t, and we know why Becky didn’t call either.
In short, yeah Sarah said they shouldn’t, but the second the call could be made, it was, so can we stop saying these kids are being dumb and really should have called the police, when they did?
thejeff
But AG was involved, so saying “without AG” doesn’t really make sense.
I do agree with the general point of Sarah’s concern about being killed by cops being a bit much in the already life-threatening situation, but there were other reasons not to call them. Maybe not good ones, but understandable.
cartoogle
I don’t get the impression the police were called. Ambulances were called and Becky tweeted whatever it is she tweeted, and that’s it.
BBCC
The police were called.
JohnInCA
I don’t believe Blaine is really “thinking” at this point. It’s all lizard-brain here, folks.
Bagge
Now that’s a huge change of pace
Sirksome
Hey, he’s got a full tank of gas and a dream! This thing is still salvageable.
Reltzik
There’s 333 miles to the Canadian border, he’s got a full tank of gas, a half-catatonic hostage, it’s light out, and he’s wearing a mask.
Ellegos
“Hit it.”
Matthew Evan Davis
Unfortunately, much like Avalon in the Walkyverse Indiana has been running on slower time and when they hit the Michigan border things snap back to 2020 and it turns out the border is closed.
Matthew Evan Davis
And damn, use some punctuation there why don’t you, Davis? Stupid run-on.
Dr. Gonzo
I don’t think there’s much logic in Blaine’s decisions right now. He’s in cornered animal mode now.
Chris
Is that just smoke under the tires, or something more? (Looking particularly at the front tire here.)
Pyrpyr