Take a think for a minute, please. Joyce is… Well, Joyce. I don’t recall her ever acting the way she has these past few weeks. I have a feeling that the behavioral changes are in part – if not entirely – due to the physical and psychological trauma of almost getting raped; while rape in itself is an unspeakable crime which should be punishable by death by flogging, keep in mind that Joyce is… Again, Joyce; that naive little Christian girl who, in my mind, would be much more affected by the event. I say this on complete assumption and have probably already made an ass out of myself; I obviously have no room to talk, having never come close to being raped, but I’m submitting my opinion nonetheless. Back to my point, I have no doubt that Joyce would change and act somewhat with her friends, but I feel that it is happening far too quickly, violently, and angrily to be normal. The fact is, the psychological impact is still gnawing at her mind, and I think Sarah might’ve picked up on it as well.
While everyone else was amused and shocked that Joyce was making innuendos and such, I was just loosing more and more hope that my suspicions were incorrect. Though, it’s still Dave’s call, so all this I’m typing is could just be the ridiculous ramblings of an old redneck. Only time will tell. I hope I’m wrong.
Because I read this comment, I reread the comic from the beginning. She’s reaching out more, and getting more distressed when no one hangs out with her. She needs someone to talk to about this, soon. She’s breaking.
There are several other things that I noticed but can’t remember.
Lol to the intensity of your comment, here.
I’m interested to see how this “Joyce is a ticking time bomb” theorty pans out. Will she snap and kill EVERYONE? Will she suddenly hate tacos? Will she make out with Mike?
I’m not quite sure how her breakdown would–well, break down.
I
GrrArg42
Joyce could make a bomb out of Mike’s tacos which he uses to kill everyone! Run for your lives!!
Seriously though (out of character here) I think we are worrying a bit much. Strangely enough, of the ways Joyce could have been exposed to “adult topics” this is less severe than it could have been. She could have been strapped down hard and forced to watch porn for hours until she wanted to destroy her brain or kill herself. The events at the party were horrible, but she is doing a decent job of being an adult, moving on and making connections within her social group for support and friendship. There will be ramifications, echoes if you will, of this event, but I don’t think they will lead to some climactic violent meltdown where people die or anything. So, you know, progress.
I.care.0
Have I said that I love the dramatical effect that your gravater gives to everything you says?
How else is Raidah gonna come out on top, here? Facts? Generations of proven ethical patterns and whose call fits them better? Dragging Dana back into this and expecting her to take sides? Taking advantage of Sarah’s victim mentality and inability to stick up for herself in a non-Byronic manner is basically it.
A distinction I’d hoped would be stated. But Dana was also smoking before her mom died.
Riku
Yes but she was smoking heavier after. She wanted to forget which would likely lead to alcohol and other self destructive behavior and who knows what.
katzgoboom
Well, from personal experience (with both firsthand and secondhand experience with depression/self-medicating/drug use/alcoholism), a healthy, well-adjusted person rarely overuses any substances, and if they use substances it’s only recreationally. A person suffering will self-medicate which often makes depression symptoms worse.
vlademir1
There is a difference between self controlled recreational use, as she was before her mom died, and self medication. I’ve seen a couple studies linking cannabis to those prone to major depressive episodes, and suggesting, if only weakly correlated, that in such a use case it typically acts as a feedback loop or reliance on the drug and preventing a person from going through the steps to deal with the underlying causes of that depression, typically allowing one’s depressive state to spiral out of control. From Sarah’s story, that seems likely what happened with Dana, especially since the death of a close immediate family member can easily cause a significant depressive episode, even for those not prone to them.
gangler
If you’re somebody who picks up a videogame and your life immediately goes to shit then you probably just can’t be trusted to game responsibly. If you’re a healthy albeit somewhat excessive gamer who after your boyfriend discovers he’s gay during an intimate moment after prom, starts gaming to the exclusion of your social life, making appointments with your guild that interfere with your real life commitments and don’t leave you with enough time to sleep or take care of other basic physical and mental health concerns, well then videogames probably aren’t actually the problem. Probably you’ve got some shit surrounding that recent breakup that needs to be dealt with.
Dana was in a depressive cycle that was only getting worse day by day. Pot happened to be her vice and it became a part of that cycle, but the depression was the real issue. My two cents on that.
Dr.Z
Keep telling yourself that.
Pot IS dangerous.
SkepticJ
Any evidence for that claim?
TheLastOutlaw
The bass player from my old band who went from recreational use, to heavy use, to dealing, to being a homeless bum where I since lost track of him. And don’t think I’m preaching out against the “demon weed” either, any addictive substance is dangerous. To claim otherwise is to demonstrate complete ignorance.
N0083rP00F
TRUTH that be. Also add to the list Mr Jack Daniels and the Captain Morgan. Alcohol and cigarettes and prescription medication are far worse in enabling self destruction but it is all self destruction nonetheless.
Coors and Budweiser is just for drowning yourself in ….[lame joke I know]
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
All that trouble with the law over a need to recreate without really doing anything?
That legal stigma ain’t good for anyone’s social prospects.
TheLastOutlaw
I don’t recall mentioning trouble with the law being a factor. Addictive behavior ruins lives regardless of the legality of the substance being abused was the point I was making. Believing that because it’s nigh impossible to die from a pot overdose means there is no danger at all in smoking it is naive.
Tigress
If someone wants to destroy themselves in the privacy of their own home using drugs, alcohols, or even cigarettes, that’s entirely their choice. However, no one has the right to inflict harm on others. This means not exposing others to second-hand smoke and not getting behind the wheel of a motorized vehicle while under the influence of anything.
And don’t try telling me that people don’t do pot and get behind the wheel. Several years ago, one of my classmates who offered to drive me home from class did (obviously, I wasn’t aware at the time that they were high), and I thought I was going to die with how they were driving. There is no excuse for it, ever.
People can destroy themselves if they like, but they have no right to take anyone else with them.
Tigress
You could also watch Cops, World’s Dumbest, and every other show that occasionally show DUI or DWI arrests. Many are alcohol-related, but there are also those with people who are under the influence.
Are you honestly trying to say that only people who drink alcohol ever commit DUI?
Take your pick. Sorry, marijuana DUI is a thing that exists, whether you like it or not.
Tigress
Okaaaay, so… the comment my last two posts were replying to has mysteriously disappeared. Like Sal, through windows.
SkepticJ
And for your anecdotes, I have plenty to counter it. In fact, almost every single person I know who has tried marijuana (and several who still use) are all well educated, at the very least at the BA/BS level, many at the Masters level, and some on the PhD level. The predisposition for fucking up one’s life exists with or without the weed. Safe and recreational drug use is possible, provided you do your proper research and take the necessary precautions.
To simply make a blanket comment that “Pot IS dangerous” is weak at best, and is really a meaningless statement. It’s not for everyone, but there are plenty of intelligent and productive members of society who use responsibly.
TheLastOutlaw
And I know smokers who never got lung cancer. So what? Does that invalidate the fact that smoking can cause cancer?
If someone wants to smoke, or drink, or do illegal drugs, I personally don’t care. It’s their choice. But blindly ignoring potential consequences is just idiotic. Me? I used to “smoke” (was in a band as I mentioned, I think it’s practically a prerequisite) but gave it up years ago, (about the time the band split and the bass player had “graduated” to dealing). I can’t really say I miss it and I’ve also moved into a different career that involves random drug testing. And I drink. I enjoy getting a good buzz on now and then. But I acknowledge the risk. Certainly many people I know can do as I do and drink in moderation, but some can’t. So yes, addictive substances like pot and alcohol are dangerous. And in my experience, you can’t make the choice to behave responsibly if you refuse to acknowledge there is any risk in the first place.
Tigress
Considering I never made a statement about education or intelligence, I’ll just skip this part entirely.
Anyway, it’s true that pot can probably be used safely… same for alcohol and cigarettes. It’s also true that many people can’t seem to manage that, become addicted, and make bad choices. To, in your own words, make a ‘blanket statement’ that ‘All pot users are responsible’ is equally weak and meaningless.
People abuse substances, and cause harm to themselves and other people. I put pot in the same category as I do other substances, including legal ones like the aforementioned cigarettes and alcohol. People become addicted, they can’t handle the substance, and they harm themselves. I suppose that’s their right, it’s their body, but it’s not their right to harm others.
Ms Danger
Any psychoactive substance has the potential to be be abused…better yet ANYTHING has the potential to be abused. Cannabis has the capacity to make someone psychologically dependent (NOT physically). The majority of misconstrued “facts” perpetuated by the media during this time of marijuana prohibition have been brought to light as being nothing but slanderous lies. So do not say that “pot is dangerous”, because that is far too strong and broad a statement to make given all the evidence out there to the contrary.
TheLastOutlaw
You’re absolutely right, there is nothing dangerous at all about addiction.
SkepticJ
Nice straw man, LastOutlaw. That is not what Ms Danger was saying at all. Then again, I never said that I “refused to acknowledge any risk,” so the straw man argument is apparently your thing.
Your band’s experience is not evidence, by the way. No anecdote is, even if the root cause of your bass player’s problems was weed, which I am highly skeptical of anyway.
Somehow there are an awful lot of people who lead productive and well-adjusted lives as marijuana users (this is certainly not limited to only the people I know personally). Since the common denominator with those who screw up their lives is weed, consider perhaps that something else is afoot here.
Jehosaphat
Pot is dangerous, just like a car is dangerous, or a bicycle is dangerous. Without proper use, lots of things are dangerous. Heck, a microwave is dangerous if you stick metal in it. I think the point here is that misuse of anything is a bad idea. Pot can be easily misused like alcohol, and it takes someone responsible to recognize that and choose when smoking it is a bad idea. (granted I would say it is a bad idea anytime, living in the US, considering it is currently illegal).
Gamut
Wow, some of you people are really hard and loose with your use of the word “addictive”.
It is impossible to form a physical dependency on cannabis. That is what “addictive” means, and that is why crystal meth, nicotine, and cocaine are addictive.
Now just because something isn’t addictive doesn’t mean it can’t be habit-forming, and harmful to your life in excess. This can include chocolate, video games, sex, the internet, fast food, and yes, cannabis. It is completely possible – easy, even – to enjoy these things responsibly and in moderation, because there is no physical hook that makes you NEED MORE. If you binge on chocolate and get fat, you are not a victim of chocolate. You are simply weak-willed.
Anecdotal horror stories like the bassist above are the exception and not the rule. Don’t go around inaccurately calling weed addictive just because you had one bad experience. “Hate the player, not the game.”
Somebody
You can’t overdose on marijuana and it’s way less harmful than alcohol. You people who think it’s so dangerous are incredibly ignorant.
LaurelRaven
“But pot specifically only led us to eating 3 pounds of cream cheese, bacon, and jalopenos.”
Is it wrong that that actually sounds good? Not the quantity, but those together?
gangler
If you put them all together you probably actually would have a pretty nice food-thing. Maybe some kind of topping or chip-dip?
We mixed the cream cheese with sun-dried tomatoes, garlic, and freshley chopped basil, stuffed the mixture into gutted jalapenos, then wrapped the whole thing with bacon, then baked the suckers. But eventually we used the leftover stuffing as dip.
I’ll put the recipe up next Wednesday.
I think she was already on some of the hard stuff by the time she called in the cavalry. And yeah, having been through depression and trauma I’d be glad if a friend were looking out for me like Sarah
Its when you start using it as a crutch is when you need to get worried. I have had to keep an eye on my brother for a while now 2 of his friends from school and his ex-girlfriend have committed suicide in the past year, and I have seen his intake of Marijuana increase significantly.
Depression and drug abuse can often lead to death from suicide or overdose.
The latter is maybe not a risk factor in cases of marijuana abuse, but the former … well, paranoid-schizophrenic personality disturbances are not exactly unknown as a side effect of doing way too much pot… couple that with depression and bereavement…
On the last point its actually the other way around …. it is not a root cause as some suggest but does have a strong enhancement effect [is that the right word?] that brings any such issues forward and exacerbates them.
It is like alcohol in that way, some people are bad drunks to very nasty drunks, the underlying flaws were always there but the “drug” alcohol / canabis, removes the safeties, so to say.
Good on you Sarah. One of the few with a real concern about people, and for sure, as no good deed goes undone, she’s paying for it. Maybe though, she gave Billie something to think about…besides herself.
342 thoughts on “Coffin”
Nexev
Having none of your sass today Billie.
Yotomoe
dat sass
Tucker
Sassed right in Sarah’s FAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!
DaJoshMaster
With her penis?
Bri
Well, that’s not being overly defensive or anything…
bionelly
Being harrassed about it by her former “friends” for a year might have something to do with that.
David Herbert
Yeah, you can only take so much before you snap, especially when it’s coming from someone you only tolerate for the sake of your roommate.
Luke
Take a think for a minute, please. Joyce is… Well, Joyce. I don’t recall her ever acting the way she has these past few weeks. I have a feeling that the behavioral changes are in part – if not entirely – due to the physical and psychological trauma of almost getting raped; while rape in itself is an unspeakable crime which should be punishable by death by flogging, keep in mind that Joyce is… Again, Joyce; that naive little Christian girl who, in my mind, would be much more affected by the event. I say this on complete assumption and have probably already made an ass out of myself; I obviously have no room to talk, having never come close to being raped, but I’m submitting my opinion nonetheless. Back to my point, I have no doubt that Joyce would change and act somewhat with her friends, but I feel that it is happening far too quickly, violently, and angrily to be normal. The fact is, the psychological impact is still gnawing at her mind, and I think Sarah might’ve picked up on it as well.
While everyone else was amused and shocked that Joyce was making innuendos and such, I was just loosing more and more hope that my suspicions were incorrect. Though, it’s still Dave’s call, so all this I’m typing is could just be the ridiculous ramblings of an old redneck. Only time will tell. I hope I’m wrong.
Steven
Because I read this comment, I reread the comic from the beginning. She’s reaching out more, and getting more distressed when no one hangs out with her. She needs someone to talk to about this, soon. She’s breaking.
There are several other things that I noticed but can’t remember.
Petre Pan
Lol to the intensity of your comment, here.
I’m interested to see how this “Joyce is a ticking time bomb” theorty pans out. Will she snap and kill EVERYONE? Will she suddenly hate tacos? Will she make out with Mike?
I’m not quite sure how her breakdown would–well, break down.
I
GrrArg42
Joyce could make a bomb out of Mike’s tacos which he uses to kill everyone! Run for your lives!!
Seriously though (out of character here) I think we are worrying a bit much. Strangely enough, of the ways Joyce could have been exposed to “adult topics” this is less severe than it could have been. She could have been strapped down hard and forced to watch porn for hours until she wanted to destroy her brain or kill herself. The events at the party were horrible, but she is doing a decent job of being an adult, moving on and making connections within her social group for support and friendship. There will be ramifications, echoes if you will, of this event, but I don’t think they will lead to some climactic violent meltdown where people die or anything. So, you know, progress.
I.care.0
Have I said that I love the dramatical effect that your gravater gives to everything you says?
I.care.0
*gravatar
Historyman68
Hmm… You might be onto something here.
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
How else is Raidah gonna come out on top, here? Facts? Generations of proven ethical patterns and whose call fits them better? Dragging Dana back into this and expecting her to take sides? Taking advantage of Sarah’s victim mentality and inability to stick up for herself in a non-Byronic manner is basically it.
Kernanator
I will say one thing for Billie, she’s a hell of a lot braver than I would be with Sarah yelling at me. I’d be crapping my pants.
Yotomoe
Who’s to say she’s not. The camera is from the waist up.
Aizat
Or wetting them.
Riku
Well she did stand up to Ruth
Xalticus
That’s not food on the table there….
Steven
Of course not. It’s coffee.
madd
Brave or Fool?
Wonder Wig
Was Sarah expecting Dana to move onto harder stuff?
Aizat
Depression could lead to crystal meth. Or suicide. I should know. The suicide part, not the crystal meth.
Wonder Wig
Yup, that’s my best friend in real life. Except add cocaine.
Wonder Wig
But pot specifically only led us to eating 3 pounds of cream cheese, bacon, and jalopenos.
gangler
Pot was a symptom though, not the disease.
Wonder Wig
A distinction I’d hoped would be stated. But Dana was also smoking before her mom died.
Riku
Yes but she was smoking heavier after. She wanted to forget which would likely lead to alcohol and other self destructive behavior and who knows what.
katzgoboom
Well, from personal experience (with both firsthand and secondhand experience with depression/self-medicating/drug use/alcoholism), a healthy, well-adjusted person rarely overuses any substances, and if they use substances it’s only recreationally. A person suffering will self-medicate which often makes depression symptoms worse.
vlademir1
There is a difference between self controlled recreational use, as she was before her mom died, and self medication. I’ve seen a couple studies linking cannabis to those prone to major depressive episodes, and suggesting, if only weakly correlated, that in such a use case it typically acts as a feedback loop or reliance on the drug and preventing a person from going through the steps to deal with the underlying causes of that depression, typically allowing one’s depressive state to spiral out of control. From Sarah’s story, that seems likely what happened with Dana, especially since the death of a close immediate family member can easily cause a significant depressive episode, even for those not prone to them.
gangler
If you’re somebody who picks up a videogame and your life immediately goes to shit then you probably just can’t be trusted to game responsibly. If you’re a healthy albeit somewhat excessive gamer who after your boyfriend discovers he’s gay during an intimate moment after prom, starts gaming to the exclusion of your social life, making appointments with your guild that interfere with your real life commitments and don’t leave you with enough time to sleep or take care of other basic physical and mental health concerns, well then videogames probably aren’t actually the problem. Probably you’ve got some shit surrounding that recent breakup that needs to be dealt with.
Dana was in a depressive cycle that was only getting worse day by day. Pot happened to be her vice and it became a part of that cycle, but the depression was the real issue. My two cents on that.
Dr.Z
Keep telling yourself that.
Pot IS dangerous.
SkepticJ
Any evidence for that claim?
TheLastOutlaw
The bass player from my old band who went from recreational use, to heavy use, to dealing, to being a homeless bum where I since lost track of him. And don’t think I’m preaching out against the “demon weed” either, any addictive substance is dangerous. To claim otherwise is to demonstrate complete ignorance.
N0083rP00F
TRUTH that be. Also add to the list Mr Jack Daniels and the Captain Morgan. Alcohol and cigarettes and prescription medication are far worse in enabling self destruction but it is all self destruction nonetheless.
Coors and Budweiser is just for drowning yourself in ….[lame joke I know]
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
All that trouble with the law over a need to recreate without really doing anything?
That legal stigma ain’t good for anyone’s social prospects.
TheLastOutlaw
I don’t recall mentioning trouble with the law being a factor. Addictive behavior ruins lives regardless of the legality of the substance being abused was the point I was making. Believing that because it’s nigh impossible to die from a pot overdose means there is no danger at all in smoking it is naive.
Tigress
If someone wants to destroy themselves in the privacy of their own home using drugs, alcohols, or even cigarettes, that’s entirely their choice. However, no one has the right to inflict harm on others. This means not exposing others to second-hand smoke and not getting behind the wheel of a motorized vehicle while under the influence of anything.
And don’t try telling me that people don’t do pot and get behind the wheel. Several years ago, one of my classmates who offered to drive me home from class did (obviously, I wasn’t aware at the time that they were high), and I thought I was going to die with how they were driving. There is no excuse for it, ever.
People can destroy themselves if they like, but they have no right to take anyone else with them.
Tigress
You could also watch Cops, World’s Dumbest, and every other show that occasionally show DUI or DWI arrests. Many are alcohol-related, but there are also those with people who are under the influence.
Are you honestly trying to say that only people who drink alcohol ever commit DUI?
Tigress
And a quick Google search turns up:
http://news.yahoo.com/more-drivers-arrested-drug-dui-arizona-2011-maricopa-080302029.html
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20566291,00.html
http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/Reedsburg-Woman-Arrested-for-DUI-and-Possession-of-Marijuana-165156496.html
http://hightimes.com/news/mmiller/7563
http://www.willitsnews.com/marijuananews/ci_21205408/dui-checkpoint-saturday-eureka-nets-marijuana-arrests
http://www.washingtondui.com/seattle-marijuana-dui-lawyer/wa-drug-dui-attorney
http://banning-beaumont.patch.com/articles/driver-arrested-on-suspicion-of-medical-marijuana-dui-during-chp-checkpoint
Take your pick. Sorry, marijuana DUI is a thing that exists, whether you like it or not.
Tigress
Okaaaay, so… the comment my last two posts were replying to has mysteriously disappeared. Like Sal, through windows.
SkepticJ
And for your anecdotes, I have plenty to counter it. In fact, almost every single person I know who has tried marijuana (and several who still use) are all well educated, at the very least at the BA/BS level, many at the Masters level, and some on the PhD level. The predisposition for fucking up one’s life exists with or without the weed. Safe and recreational drug use is possible, provided you do your proper research and take the necessary precautions.
To simply make a blanket comment that “Pot IS dangerous” is weak at best, and is really a meaningless statement. It’s not for everyone, but there are plenty of intelligent and productive members of society who use responsibly.
TheLastOutlaw
And I know smokers who never got lung cancer. So what? Does that invalidate the fact that smoking can cause cancer?
If someone wants to smoke, or drink, or do illegal drugs, I personally don’t care. It’s their choice. But blindly ignoring potential consequences is just idiotic. Me? I used to “smoke” (was in a band as I mentioned, I think it’s practically a prerequisite) but gave it up years ago, (about the time the band split and the bass player had “graduated” to dealing). I can’t really say I miss it and I’ve also moved into a different career that involves random drug testing. And I drink. I enjoy getting a good buzz on now and then. But I acknowledge the risk. Certainly many people I know can do as I do and drink in moderation, but some can’t. So yes, addictive substances like pot and alcohol are dangerous. And in my experience, you can’t make the choice to behave responsibly if you refuse to acknowledge there is any risk in the first place.
Tigress
Considering I never made a statement about education or intelligence, I’ll just skip this part entirely.
Anyway, it’s true that pot can probably be used safely… same for alcohol and cigarettes. It’s also true that many people can’t seem to manage that, become addicted, and make bad choices. To, in your own words, make a ‘blanket statement’ that ‘All pot users are responsible’ is equally weak and meaningless.
People abuse substances, and cause harm to themselves and other people. I put pot in the same category as I do other substances, including legal ones like the aforementioned cigarettes and alcohol. People become addicted, they can’t handle the substance, and they harm themselves. I suppose that’s their right, it’s their body, but it’s not their right to harm others.
Ms Danger
Any psychoactive substance has the potential to be be abused…better yet ANYTHING has the potential to be abused. Cannabis has the capacity to make someone psychologically dependent (NOT physically). The majority of misconstrued “facts” perpetuated by the media during this time of marijuana prohibition have been brought to light as being nothing but slanderous lies. So do not say that “pot is dangerous”, because that is far too strong and broad a statement to make given all the evidence out there to the contrary.
TheLastOutlaw
You’re absolutely right, there is nothing dangerous at all about addiction.
SkepticJ
Nice straw man, LastOutlaw. That is not what Ms Danger was saying at all. Then again, I never said that I “refused to acknowledge any risk,” so the straw man argument is apparently your thing.
Your band’s experience is not evidence, by the way. No anecdote is, even if the root cause of your bass player’s problems was weed, which I am highly skeptical of anyway.
Somehow there are an awful lot of people who lead productive and well-adjusted lives as marijuana users (this is certainly not limited to only the people I know personally). Since the common denominator with those who screw up their lives is weed, consider perhaps that something else is afoot here.
Jehosaphat
Pot is dangerous, just like a car is dangerous, or a bicycle is dangerous. Without proper use, lots of things are dangerous. Heck, a microwave is dangerous if you stick metal in it. I think the point here is that misuse of anything is a bad idea. Pot can be easily misused like alcohol, and it takes someone responsible to recognize that and choose when smoking it is a bad idea. (granted I would say it is a bad idea anytime, living in the US, considering it is currently illegal).
Gamut
Wow, some of you people are really hard and loose with your use of the word “addictive”.
It is impossible to form a physical dependency on cannabis. That is what “addictive” means, and that is why crystal meth, nicotine, and cocaine are addictive.
Now just because something isn’t addictive doesn’t mean it can’t be habit-forming, and harmful to your life in excess. This can include chocolate, video games, sex, the internet, fast food, and yes, cannabis. It is completely possible – easy, even – to enjoy these things responsibly and in moderation, because there is no physical hook that makes you NEED MORE. If you binge on chocolate and get fat, you are not a victim of chocolate. You are simply weak-willed.
Anecdotal horror stories like the bassist above are the exception and not the rule. Don’t go around inaccurately calling weed addictive just because you had one bad experience. “Hate the player, not the game.”
Somebody
You can’t overdose on marijuana and it’s way less harmful than alcohol. You people who think it’s so dangerous are incredibly ignorant.
LaurelRaven
“But pot specifically only led us to eating 3 pounds of cream cheese, bacon, and jalopenos.”
Is it wrong that that actually sounds good? Not the quantity, but those together?
gangler
If you put them all together you probably actually would have a pretty nice food-thing. Maybe some kind of topping or chip-dip?
Tenn
Of course not. Anything plus bacon sounds good.
madd
It’d be like jalapeño poppers with bacon mixed into the standard cream cheese stuffing. How could that NOT be delicious?
Wonder Wig
We mixed the cream cheese with sun-dried tomatoes, garlic, and freshley chopped basil, stuffed the mixture into gutted jalapenos, then wrapped the whole thing with bacon, then baked the suckers. But eventually we used the leftover stuffing as dip.
I’ll put the recipe up next Wednesday.
LaurelRaven
*drools*
gangler
A depressive cycle that’s spiraling out of control really just has a tendency to encourage self-destructive behavior in general.
ChaoticRambler
I think she was already on some of the hard stuff by the time she called in the cavalry. And yeah, having been through depression and trauma I’d be glad if a friend were looking out for me like Sarah
DeadWillieGuy
Its when you start using it as a crutch is when you need to get worried. I have had to keep an eye on my brother for a while now 2 of his friends from school and his ex-girlfriend have committed suicide in the past year, and I have seen his intake of Marijuana increase significantly.
Historyman68
Oh jeez, that’s rough. Is he seeing a therapist? He probably should. (not to give unsolicited advice, just that it’s helped me)
tahrey
Depression and drug abuse can often lead to death from suicide or overdose.
The latter is maybe not a risk factor in cases of marijuana abuse, but the former … well, paranoid-schizophrenic personality disturbances are not exactly unknown as a side effect of doing way too much pot… couple that with depression and bereavement…
N0083rP00F
On the last point its actually the other way around …. it is not a root cause as some suggest but does have a strong enhancement effect [is that the right word?] that brings any such issues forward and exacerbates them.
It is like alcohol in that way, some people are bad drunks to very nasty drunks, the underlying flaws were always there but the “drug” alcohol / canabis, removes the safeties, so to say.
Somebody
You can’t overdose on weed unless it’s laced with something else. -_-
Somebody
It isn’t a “gateway drug” either. That’s a serious misconception.
Narf
Pot doesn’t cause schizophrenic personality disturbances (however, if you’re already schizophrenic, pot can certainly exacerbate your condition).
Uniqueantique
Good on you Sarah. One of the few with a real concern about people, and for sure, as no good deed goes undone, she’s paying for it. Maybe though, she gave Billie something to think about…besides herself.
Yotomoe
I think the saying you’re fishing for is “No good deed goes unpunished”
Effie
No act of charity goes unresented?
Frostbite
Thats my new creed
Roborat
I hope they are better than the old Creed, that band sucked.
Somebody
There you go with the arrogance again. Higher isn’t bad and I don’t care who doesn’t like the song.
GrrArg42
Wait.. it doesn’t? I released the nuns from the shark tank in my basement for nothing?!
Rognik
Elan’s shocked face only makes that statement better. Even more so than that undead mage from Looking For Group would.