Whiskey seems to be Billie’s drink of choice. Billie pregamed, of course, so if we figure Walky’s as lightweight as his sister, Dorothy has never had a drink before, you could probably get them this drunk off of 2-4 shots each. Now, how the 2 lightweights managed to drink that much with minimal mixers is a mystery, but the bottle isn’t the problem.
Never doubt the combination of sufficiently strong booze and lightweights. Seriously, if I had a nickel for everybody I knew who’d passed out from just a shot I’d have more than Mike’s mom budget.
Or even worse becomes a dangerous idiot on only minor alcohol consumption. On one memorable night,I had a fraternity brother who on literally two beers:
1) tried to pick a fight with a group of Marines & got kicked out of the bar;
2) climbed up into a tree (downtown) because he wasn’t ready to go home [we managed to convince a city cop not to arrest him];
3) refused to get into the elevator when we finally got him back to his dorm [trying to stop us by spreading his arms and legs and yelling he wasn’t ready to go home, which attracted the attention of a campus cop];
4) proceeded to say some really stupid things to the campus cop [culminating in “What are you going to do, arrest me?”]; and
5) got arrested [only time in my life I’ve had to arrange to bail someone out of jail].
As a post-script, he has avoided alcohol for years now since he figured out it leads to stupid behavior on his part.
So this is a long-winded way of saying that Dorothy and Walky have an infinite possibility of stupid drunken behavior available, depending on where Willis wants to take them…
Such people simply make me doubt that they actually needed alcohol in their blood to behave like this…
Disloyal Subject
In cervisia veritas.
Spiny Creature
Two beers physically can’t make anyone behave like that, unless the person is within the 20-50 pound range. That guy is an example of that psychological effect where you act the way you think drunk people should act without actually being drunk.
Spiny Creature
Now that I think about it, I realize the name for that is just “the placebo effect”. Way to be long-winded, self!
Dana
If the placebo effect has negative rather than positive consequences, it’s more accurate to call it the nocebo effect. I’m not saying that to be pedantic; I just love that word and wish more people used it. 🙂
Rich
To be pedantic, Kennedy insisted there were only nocebo reactions, no such thing as a nocebo effect. Medical terminology gets fussy about the differences.
Being slightly less nit-picky, it’s much rarer to get an opportunity to use it properly in conversation unless you’re a professional torturer or something. Even here it’s only appropriate if you think acting drunk is a negative effect, which isn’t always true. A false drunk gains social camouflage, the relaxation that comes with actual inebriation, and avoids the potential aftereffects of getting seriously lit – although I suppose you could convince yourself you’ve got a false hangover as well. Now that would be a clear nocebo reaction.
Hmm. There’s another reason you don’t see nocebo much. Spellchecking programs hate the word. Never seen so many red squigglies.
Miles
You say that but I have a friend who gets drunk WAY too easily and I don’t think he’s a lightweight or anything. He just can’t hold his liquor.
There’s a big range of beer potency, but not enough to make anyone larger than Verne Troyer flip out on two cans. I’m working in Utah at the moment, and here in Mormon country even the draft and most bottled beers in bars – not restaurants, bars – is 3.2 hosspiss. You can get some slightly tougher stuff in bottles, or you can go to one of the widely scattered State liquor stores and get stouter beers. When I was a young feller, I could go from Iowa up to Minnesota and get “STRONG” (so labeled on the can) beers that ran 7-8%. I think the toughest beers run 11-12%.
Two cans of the toughest beers in the world, if you slammed them as fast as you could, might make your face tingle, but you sure as hell won’t be drunk. More likely, someone that acts like an asshole after two cans is just an asshole.
And yeah, Utah ain’t the greatest place to tie one on – especially if your liver is case-hardened by decades of pickling, like mine.
Well the top ten of this list might disagree with you, but it’s not really up-to-date: the number one was improved in the meantime and now comes with the name “Snake Venom” and 67.5%!
Are those traditional brewed beers? Because I think 12-13% is the strongest you can achieve by fermentation. I’m pretty sure you have to use distillation to get higher than that.
But then, I’m far more expert at drinking beer than brewing it. After all, I’ve never heard of a really great Man-Story(tm), the kind that usually ends in a trip to the local ER, that started with “Yeah, this one time a bunch of us were sitting around eating salad, when…”
But if I only had a buck for every really great story than began, “Then Pete turned to me and said, ‘Hey, hold my beer and watch this!'”
“…and just thinks she’s drunk.”
Don’t doubt placebos.
newllend(henryvolt)
Eh, then she’s just weird I guess.
Disloyal Subject
Aren’t we all?
newllend(henryvolt)
True
feli
Placebo effect is strong. We got some gals drunk on ice tea on a festival. Came to us and asked for something to drink, so out of fun we poured them icetea. Pure icetea.
Little bit. In hindsight, that last line she said to Billie did have a bit of a “desperate realization that I’m wound way too tight” ring to it. Alcohol isn’t the best way to unwind, but it’ll do as long it doesn’t become a habit.
I don’t mind if she crosses the line, but assuming nobody forced alcohol down her throat, her attitude somehow did a complete 180 from “I’m typing notes on my phone I’m so busy I’m not allowed to relax” to “Fuck it I’m going to drink alcohol”. That just seems weird to me.
It makes sense to me. “Mind racing, so many things I need to do! How am I supposed to relax?
Maybe this will take the edge off… it’s a party, after all.”
Dunno, I think she’s often good at compartmentaling. NOW I study, NOW I have fun. Even if she often frets about her scheduling, when she is in a FUN timeslot she usually socializes.
Also, she’s not the first young person to rationalize reasons to be drunk despite it being a bad idea
Deanatay
Also, it’s the up-tight, focused ones that party the hardest when they let themselves party. They’re very focused on partying when they party.
336 thoughts on “Confidentially”
Jen Aside
and then Mike fucked both of them for a dime
…nah, not the same ring to it
…
are they srsly ALL drunk off Billie’s one bottle, tho, what proof is that
shadowcell
mike would never overpay. one nickel, they can figure out how to split it.
Clif
Good point.
Cheryl
LMAO
DarkoNeko
jet fuel.
blackaeon
Jet fuel can’t melt Joyce’s dreams, Debra
Doctor_Lantern
I think I may love you…
Doctor_Who
No proof, just circumstantial evidence.
Jen Aside
Is the proof in the pudding?
’cause
pudding wrestling
Dean
I don’t think they’re quite drunk enough for that yet. Except Billie. And Becky would probably be up for it anyway.
K^2
Proof in the pudding? That’s a great idea. Lets do pudding shots.
Saucistophe
Wouldn’t just be the same with pudding around the pool.
Bicycle Bill
Ugh …. crap music (the ‘c’ is silent).
There’s four minutes of my life I’m never going to get back.
Lel
Oh wow, pretentious people judging an entire music genre on the internet.
There’s 1 second of my life I’m never going to get back.
Coco Pommel
I like little bits of all kinds of music myself. I tend to judge based on song rather than genre. :V
Disloyal Subject
To be fair, it’s easy to get prejudiced against rap. Coco has the right idea, though.
Dean
Spending a prolonged period in a confined space with Billie can result in a state known as ‘contact drunkenness’.
DarkoNeko
…hopefully they won’t all run for congress.
Disloyal Subject
I have a strange feeling they’d be the best Congress we’ve had in decades.
Bicycle Bill
They certainly wouldn’t be any worse than what we have now.
Rich
That one never worked for me. The Oz characters were well intentioned despite their flaws. Congress is not.
LiaHansen
he fuck both of ’em for TWO NICKELSSSSS
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Viktoria
Whiskey seems to be Billie’s drink of choice. Billie pregamed, of course, so if we figure Walky’s as lightweight as his sister, Dorothy has never had a drink before, you could probably get them this drunk off of 2-4 shots each. Now, how the 2 lightweights managed to drink that much with minimal mixers is a mystery, but the bottle isn’t the problem.
Tunaro
Never doubt the combination of sufficiently strong booze and lightweights. Seriously, if I had a nickel for everybody I knew who’d passed out from just a shot I’d have more than Mike’s mom budget.
Les
Or even worse becomes a dangerous idiot on only minor alcohol consumption. On one memorable night,I had a fraternity brother who on literally two beers:
1) tried to pick a fight with a group of Marines & got kicked out of the bar;
2) climbed up into a tree (downtown) because he wasn’t ready to go home [we managed to convince a city cop not to arrest him];
3) refused to get into the elevator when we finally got him back to his dorm [trying to stop us by spreading his arms and legs and yelling he wasn’t ready to go home, which attracted the attention of a campus cop];
4) proceeded to say some really stupid things to the campus cop [culminating in “What are you going to do, arrest me?”]; and
5) got arrested [only time in my life I’ve had to arrange to bail someone out of jail].
As a post-script, he has avoided alcohol for years now since he figured out it leads to stupid behavior on his part.
So this is a long-winded way of saying that Dorothy and Walky have an infinite possibility of stupid drunken behavior available, depending on where Willis wants to take them…
erejnion
Such people simply make me doubt that they actually needed alcohol in their blood to behave like this…
Disloyal Subject
In cervisia veritas.
Spiny Creature
Two beers physically can’t make anyone behave like that, unless the person is within the 20-50 pound range. That guy is an example of that psychological effect where you act the way you think drunk people should act without actually being drunk.
Spiny Creature
Now that I think about it, I realize the name for that is just “the placebo effect”. Way to be long-winded, self!
Dana
If the placebo effect has negative rather than positive consequences, it’s more accurate to call it the nocebo effect. I’m not saying that to be pedantic; I just love that word and wish more people used it. 🙂
Rich
To be pedantic, Kennedy insisted there were only nocebo reactions, no such thing as a nocebo effect. Medical terminology gets fussy about the differences.
Being slightly less nit-picky, it’s much rarer to get an opportunity to use it properly in conversation unless you’re a professional torturer or something. Even here it’s only appropriate if you think acting drunk is a negative effect, which isn’t always true. A false drunk gains social camouflage, the relaxation that comes with actual inebriation, and avoids the potential aftereffects of getting seriously lit – although I suppose you could convince yourself you’ve got a false hangover as well. Now that would be a clear nocebo reaction.
Hmm. There’s another reason you don’t see nocebo much. Spellchecking programs hate the word. Never seen so many red squigglies.
Miles
You say that but I have a friend who gets drunk WAY too easily and I don’t think he’s a lightweight or anything. He just can’t hold his liquor.
Animal
That’s actually pretty much the definition of a lightweight.
Halloween Jack
Or, you look at a beer bottle and see “INSTANT EXCUSE FOR DOING ANYTHING” on the label.
Animal
There’s a big range of beer potency, but not enough to make anyone larger than Verne Troyer flip out on two cans. I’m working in Utah at the moment, and here in Mormon country even the draft and most bottled beers in bars – not restaurants, bars – is 3.2 hosspiss. You can get some slightly tougher stuff in bottles, or you can go to one of the widely scattered State liquor stores and get stouter beers. When I was a young feller, I could go from Iowa up to Minnesota and get “STRONG” (so labeled on the can) beers that ran 7-8%. I think the toughest beers run 11-12%.
Two cans of the toughest beers in the world, if you slammed them as fast as you could, might make your face tingle, but you sure as hell won’t be drunk. More likely, someone that acts like an asshole after two cans is just an asshole.
And yeah, Utah ain’t the greatest place to tie one on – especially if your liver is case-hardened by decades of pickling, like mine.
Amazi-Stool
Well the top ten of this list might disagree with you, but it’s not really up-to-date: the number one was improved in the meantime and now comes with the name “Snake Venom” and 67.5%!
Animal
Are those traditional brewed beers? Because I think 12-13% is the strongest you can achieve by fermentation. I’m pretty sure you have to use distillation to get higher than that.
But then, I’m far more expert at drinking beer than brewing it. After all, I’ve never heard of a really great Man-Story(tm), the kind that usually ends in a trip to the local ER, that started with “Yeah, this one time a bunch of us were sitting around eating salad, when…”
But if I only had a buck for every really great story than began, “Then Pete turned to me and said, ‘Hey, hold my beer and watch this!'”
AgentKeen
I mean, Walky barely counts if he’s as much of a lightweight as his sister/alternate dimension self. And who knows about Dorothy’s tolerance.
AustKyzor
It’s proof is probably about Billie% – you don’t light this stuff on fire; it spontaneously combusts
JWLM
Hell, I’m always stunned that *Billie* doesn’t spontaneously combust. As it is, I hope she has a warning label “Keep away from heat and open flame.”
Rich
On the plus side, her touch is an excellent disinfectant and she thins many paints on contact.
darkgloomie
good thing she doesn’t seem much into makeup; doing her nails’s gotta be a nightmare.
EvolutionistX
Who says Billie only had one bottle?
Deanatay
After Mike destroys an enemy, he leaves a nickel on each eye.
He calls it ‘dropping a dime on them’.
Rycan
So THAT’S why he always asks for a nickel.
TachyonCode
Oh god, though.
Coco Pommel
Aww yiss. Adell.
Awesome gravitar.
AnvilPro
Dorothy’s probably taken half a sip of Walky’s drink and just thinks she’s drunk
newllend(henryvolt)
Wow then she’s more of a lightweight than walky.
Disloyal Subject
“…and just thinks she’s drunk.”
Don’t doubt placebos.
newllend(henryvolt)
Eh, then she’s just weird I guess.
Disloyal Subject
Aren’t we all?
newllend(henryvolt)
True
feli
Placebo effect is strong. We got some gals drunk on ice tea on a festival. Came to us and asked for something to drink, so out of fun we poured them icetea. Pure icetea.
Nono
Wow. Guess I was right yesterday. Surprised Dorothy let herself slip.
Rich
Little bit. In hindsight, that last line she said to Billie did have a bit of a “desperate realization that I’m wound way too tight” ring to it. Alcohol isn’t the best way to unwind, but it’ll do as long it doesn’t become a habit.
DarkoNeko
Hahahhaha Dotty WAS drunk 😀
DarkoNeko
aaand she’s a fun drunk.
Rich
I confess to being mildly surprised. Wonder if Billie poured for her or if she’s been sharing with Walky?
Lucina
C’mon, Joyce, can’t you see the bubbles over their heads?
Nono
Would that mean Becky’s drunk as well?
JessWitt
she assumed someone was blowing bubbles. Or brought a bubble machine.
Rich
Lawrence Welk strikes me as being the kind of person that would make the invite list for this party. Or maybe Don Ho.
Wonder how many people have to google those two to get the joke.
Khantalas
Dorothy, there is a line between “not letting yourself relax” and “letting yourself relax too much”.
Do try not to cross it.
GoogerGeiger
I don’t mind if she crosses the line, but assuming nobody forced alcohol down her throat, her attitude somehow did a complete 180 from “I’m typing notes on my phone I’m so busy I’m not allowed to relax” to “Fuck it I’m going to drink alcohol”. That just seems weird to me.
claudewicked
Its not neccesarily a 180- being a good student doesnt neccesarily make you a complete teetotaler.
Disloyal Subject
It makes sense to me. “Mind racing, so many things I need to do! How am I supposed to relax?
Maybe this will take the edge off… it’s a party, after all.”
JWLM
This. Exactly this.
Bagge
Dunno, I think she’s often good at compartmentaling. NOW I study, NOW I have fun. Even if she often frets about her scheduling, when she is in a FUN timeslot she usually socializes.
Also, she’s not the first young person to rationalize reasons to be drunk despite it being a bad idea
Deanatay
Also, it’s the up-tight, focused ones that party the hardest when they let themselves party. They’re very focused on partying when they party.
newllend(henryvolt)
Your not her mom, she’s already her own Damon mom anyway.
newllend(henryvolt)