Ethan's showing Joyce some Beast Wars. Trying to hook someone on to Transformers with original G1 episodes is not a bright idea. I swear, the last girl I showed "Bad Spark" to I ended up marrying.
i don’t know how valid that is. i grew up watching universal’s monster movies as a kid. movies that were about 50 years older than i am. G1 may not have been on the air during ethan’s childhood, but episodes have been available on VHS and DVD throughout his life. i don’t think it would be unusual for him to seek out more transformers at blockbuster at some point.
Brasca1
If he had access to video recordings then I could see that, but back in my day once Transformers was off the air it was off the air. There was no Hub or any other channel to show repeats and the only videos you could rent were the pilot episodes and a few other best episode compilations. It’s possible a sibling or some other relations or family friend gave them to Ethan and he was hooked. Or maybe he got interested when they reintroduced the series back in the early 90s with CGI cutaways added. It reawakened my nostalgia as well as made me realize just how bad the animation and plots were.
According to Willis, Ethan has seen the original series on Netflix but wasn’t raised on it. As the timescale slides what series Ethan first saw will change.
At least they weren’t organic, the radioactive atoms found in normal living cells would have damaged them beyond repair if they were cytogenetically frozen.
Teletron-1 is damaged. SOMEHOW the explosion triggers something and it begins repairing?
I often wonder if it’s safe to assume the Maximals fixed the arc enough so that when the volcano would erupt everything would activate…
Yeah it’d be a retcon so what? It’s the only thing that makes any real sense but then again trying to make sense of gen 1 takes all the fun out of gen 1…
Man, I always thought they just passed out after a night of drinking.
thomas0comer
Drinking… what, exactly? Energon? I wonder just what kind of biochemical properties energon has. IIRC it’s always been something between caffeine, some sort of energy drink, and radioactive plasma.
Well, Optimus did get head blown off by Pred Megatron which pretty much ensuring that Cybertron would be digested by Unicron and they did some modification to the Ark when the Maximals used it as base like the boxing glove booby trap for instance.
Jetstream
HEH! I forgot about that problem with Megatron’s plan!
“I know! I’ll kill Optimus Prime and make it so the Decepticons win! That’ll show ’em!”
Oh hai Unicron! Herp de derp! Whar is Matrix? Herp!
David
Eh, Megatron would have 4 million years to figure out another way to funnel Primus’ essence into his evil brother. The Matrix of Leadership itself is just a doorway to a dimension where that essence is contained.
Aizat
But if we’re following the time travel conventions that wiping out Optimus wipes out the Maximals, shouldn’t Megs disappear as well seeing if Unicron eats Cybertron, most of the Decepticons would be wiped out as well leaving only Galvatron, Cyclonus and his armada, Scourge and the Sweeps and whatever Cybertronian not on Cybertron?
David
The story presented the idea that getting rid of the Autobots would make the Maximals not happen. But since Megatron was winning the war for the Decepticons, leaving them alive, the Predacons could still possibly happen. And apparently they would, since Megatron didn’t start fading like the Maximals did.
i always thought that since transformers last so long, their concept of time is different from ours. a million years to them might be like a decade to us. that thundercats episode “song of the petalars” had the same concept.
Good observation ryan. But I’m not sure they do, only because they deal with so many short lived life forms. They have more of an Elven concept. Disregarding the short sections like months or even years, but they understand the concepts there shorter lived allies live in.
Well, in Canada, the thing was called “Beasties” instead of “Beast Wars”. But that was more because the station, YTV, didn’t want to air anything with the word “war” in the title. A minor scandal, though.
I can’t handle this. First a friend of mine ruins my childhood by pointing out that the mom in “I’ll Love You Forever” is a creepy, psycho, breaking & entering stalker. Now I’m being told that Starscream and Megatron are gay for each other. Next, I’ll find out that the Power Rangers were racist or something.
gay transformers ruins your childhood? Doesn’t seem too bad t’ me
Aizat
Gay transformers didn’t ruin my childhood, Michael Bay did. (Sorry for those who are fans of the movies)
Yotomoe
Michael Bay didn’t ruin my childhood, Father time did.
Gundi
Hey, my childhood was Batman:TAS. Yeah.
Bekah
My childhood was ruined by StalkerMom, not gay Transformers. But, that being said, I’m not happy about the mental image of two robots doing the nasty that I’ve got going on right now.
Aizat
Mine was ruined by Hollywood. DAMN YOU FOX FOR RUINING MY CHILDHOOD!
Maybe its like when you stumble on those medical documentaries mid surgery. You wanna look away but for some ungodly reason you can’t bring yourself to move a muscle.
Its funny. I wanted to watch Beast Wars with my boyfriend I showed him Bad Spark first because the first season kind of drags and I needed some time to figure out what episodes we could skip from it. He liked that episode a lot and was able to look over things like the name scene and those cheesy title drop lines from season 1.
104 thoughts on “Credibility”
Doctor_Who
No woman can resist Beast Wars. The power of Dinobot compels them!
Brasca1
So that’s what they’re watching. I guess that’s about right since I think this Ethan is too young to have watched the original series.
Aizat
Too young for Transformers? NEVER!
ryan
i don’t know how valid that is. i grew up watching universal’s monster movies as a kid. movies that were about 50 years older than i am. G1 may not have been on the air during ethan’s childhood, but episodes have been available on VHS and DVD throughout his life. i don’t think it would be unusual for him to seek out more transformers at blockbuster at some point.
Brasca1
If he had access to video recordings then I could see that, but back in my day once Transformers was off the air it was off the air. There was no Hub or any other channel to show repeats and the only videos you could rent were the pilot episodes and a few other best episode compilations. It’s possible a sibling or some other relations or family friend gave them to Ethan and he was hooked. Or maybe he got interested when they reintroduced the series back in the early 90s with CGI cutaways added. It reawakened my nostalgia as well as made me realize just how bad the animation and plots were.
Wack'd
According to Willis, Ethan has seen the original series on Netflix but wasn’t raised on it. As the timescale slides what series Ethan first saw will change.
Aisling
Transformers G1 has been on dvd for a while now.
Plasma Mongoose
The millions of years thing also bothered me.
Yotomoe
i know right? Time and Transformers tend to butt heads as far as backstories go.
Plasma Mongoose
At least they weren’t organic, the radioactive atoms found in normal living cells would have damaged them beyond repair if they were cytogenetically frozen.
Plasma Mongoose
cytogenetically = cryogenics
David
The G1 guys weren’t frozen for 4 million years, they were just knocked unconscious.
It was a pretty good nap.
Aizat
I thought it because the impact of the crash damaged them severely.
Yotomoe
and they just kinda walked it off.
Aizat
Well, Teletraan 1 did repair all of them.
Plasma Mongoose
Teletraan is one SLOW computer then.
Aizat
Well, Teletraan was being hacked sometime in caveman times.
Plasma Mongoose
What with? Stone axes?
Aizat
Blackarachnia hacked Teletraan 1 IIRC.
Kaixa
Teletron-1 is damaged. SOMEHOW the explosion triggers something and it begins repairing?
I often wonder if it’s safe to assume the Maximals fixed the arc enough so that when the volcano would erupt everything would activate…
Yeah it’d be a retcon so what? It’s the only thing that makes any real sense but then again trying to make sense of gen 1 takes all the fun out of gen 1…
Plasma Mongoose
I think that counts as a coma at least.
Kernanator
Man, I always thought they just passed out after a night of drinking.
thomas0comer
Drinking… what, exactly? Energon? I wonder just what kind of biochemical properties energon has. IIRC it’s always been something between caffeine, some sort of energy drink, and radioactive plasma.
Aizat
It didn’t bother me as much as the fact that the Maximals have been trampling in the Ark.
Plasma Mongoose
Could be worse, they could poop.
Aizat
Well, Optimus did get head blown off by Pred Megatron which pretty much ensuring that Cybertron would be digested by Unicron and they did some modification to the Ark when the Maximals used it as base like the boxing glove booby trap for instance.
Jetstream
HEH! I forgot about that problem with Megatron’s plan!
“I know! I’ll kill Optimus Prime and make it so the Decepticons win! That’ll show ’em!”
Oh hai Unicron! Herp de derp! Whar is Matrix? Herp!
David
Eh, Megatron would have 4 million years to figure out another way to funnel Primus’ essence into his evil brother. The Matrix of Leadership itself is just a doorway to a dimension where that essence is contained.
Aizat
But if we’re following the time travel conventions that wiping out Optimus wipes out the Maximals, shouldn’t Megs disappear as well seeing if Unicron eats Cybertron, most of the Decepticons would be wiped out as well leaving only Galvatron, Cyclonus and his armada, Scourge and the Sweeps and whatever Cybertronian not on Cybertron?
David
The story presented the idea that getting rid of the Autobots would make the Maximals not happen. But since Megatron was winning the war for the Decepticons, leaving them alive, the Predacons could still possibly happen. And apparently they would, since Megatron didn’t start fading like the Maximals did.
ryan
i always thought that since transformers last so long, their concept of time is different from ours. a million years to them might be like a decade to us. that thundercats episode “song of the petalars” had the same concept.
mouseanderson
Good observation ryan. But I’m not sure they do, only because they deal with so many short lived life forms. They have more of an Elven concept. Disregarding the short sections like months or even years, but they understand the concepts there shorter lived allies live in.
Yotomoe
transformers is the most controvertial tv show ever.
Rognik
Well, in Canada, the thing was called “Beasties” instead of “Beast Wars”. But that was more because the station, YTV, didn’t want to air anything with the word “war” in the title. A minor scandal, though.
Khrene Cleaver
I wonder why they didn’t go with like “Beast Bots” Or “Beast-Formers” or even “Mechimals”
Doctor_Who
Wait until she DOES see some G1 and picks up the gay vibe between Megatron and Starscream.
Aizat
Gay vibes? I see as more of a spousal abuse type of relationship.
Plasma Mongoose
Megatron and Starscream are tsundere for each other.
Yotomoe
I always got more of an extreme sexual tension.
wererat
well at least the abuse is mutual.
does that make it better, right?
Bekah
I can’t handle this. First a friend of mine ruins my childhood by pointing out that the mom in “I’ll Love You Forever” is a creepy, psycho, breaking & entering stalker. Now I’m being told that Starscream and Megatron are gay for each other. Next, I’ll find out that the Power Rangers were racist or something.
WHY CAN’T YOU PEOPLE LEAVE MY MEMORIES ALONE!?
Plasma Mongoose
Q: WHY CAN’T YOU PEOPLE LEAVE MY MEMORIES ALONE!?
A: COS THAT’S HOW THE INTERNET ROLLS THAT’S WHY!
Yotomoe
gay transformers ruins your childhood? Doesn’t seem too bad t’ me
Aizat
Gay transformers didn’t ruin my childhood, Michael Bay did. (Sorry for those who are fans of the movies)
Yotomoe
Michael Bay didn’t ruin my childhood, Father time did.
Gundi
Hey, my childhood was Batman:TAS. Yeah.
Bekah
My childhood was ruined by StalkerMom, not gay Transformers. But, that being said, I’m not happy about the mental image of two robots doing the nasty that I’ve got going on right now.
Aizat
Mine was ruined by Hollywood. DAMN YOU FOX FOR RUINING MY CHILDHOOD!
Plasma Mongoose
Everyone knows that when it comes to ruining childhoods, no one comes close to George Lucas.
Khrene Cleaver
Seeing someone draw Robotnik being gay/mechasexual for Scratch ruind my childhood, and AoStH wasn’t even apart of my childhood…
But then again thats cause it reminds me of the things people do with XJ9…
Doctor_Who
“Next, I’ll find out that the Power Rangers were racist or something.”
You mean you didn’t notice which uniforms Zordon put Zack and Trini in?
(Yes, I know, coincidence.)
Bekah
Trust a Time Lord to actually get the joke.
(sort of)
Aizat
Trust a Time Lord to get any old joke.
Khrene Cleaver
Or busts out laughing when someone uses a word that becomes sexual innuendo in about 600 years.
lord of dance
i always found that hilarious
Shade
Personally I didn’t notice till it was pointed out when I was watching Linkara’s History of Power Rangers.
Kaixa
The best coincidence is how they started focusing on Tommy’s Native American heritage in Zeo when he was the Red Ranger…
Jetstream
Look, at least you didn’t get that subtext AFTER you saw TF porno (it exists and was very popular in Fanfic form back in the late 90s…)
Oy.
Bekah
On the one hand…
On the other hand, why did you watch a TF porno?
Khrene Cleaver
Maybe its like when you stumble on those medical documentaries mid surgery. You wanna look away but for some ungodly reason you can’t bring yourself to move a muscle.
Charles RB
G1? Wait until she sees Knock Out in Prime!
Aizat
Why wait? Tracks in G1 seems to be the type.
Krashthemystro
Oh Doc if she’s not picking up on Ethan, I doubt she’ll pick up on them…
Crumplepunch
I think we have firmly established that Joyce cannot or will not pick up on gay vibes.
Sensedog
I’m enjoying Joyce’s face in the second panel, and I do not know why.
WhiteEyedCat
Joyce is not prepared for Pokemon.
Shade
But the Vatican says pokemon is okay!
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,620818,00.html
Though I suppose since Joyce isn’t Catholic that doesn’t mean anything.
Crumplepunch
Unfortunately, they still consider Harry Potter and Yoga satanic. Oh well!
L
Ya beat me to the punch. Ahm gonna be very dissappointed if she’s not introduced to Pokemon eventually.
Kaixa
She’ll have to be! They’re all 90/00s kids now. It’s Pokemon, Power Rangers, and Toonami from this point on for these guys. Right?
I bet Walky would be psyched that Toonami is back on Adult Swim. Then Mike will have to mock him for being excited about glorified commercial bumpers…
Charles RB
“Ethan’s showing Joyce some Beast Wars”
Ethan is a prince among men and the best character in the whole strip.
Kaixa
Its funny. I wanted to watch Beast Wars with my boyfriend I showed him Bad Spark first because the first season kind of drags and I needed some time to figure out what episodes we could skip from it. He liked that episode a lot and was able to look over things like the name scene and those cheesy title drop lines from season 1.
Aizat