I doubt it! If I’m not mistaken, Willis has said he’s trying not to retread canon endgame relationship grounds here. I mean, okay, it could be one sided on Carla’s part for the dramas, but it really doesn’t feel like there’s any point to establishing that in the broader narrative. Right now, Marcie has her smoochin’ sights set on Malaya, and that’s the main conflict of her story – her essential “homewrecking” of Sal and Marcie’s long friendship. Introducing “also Carla wants to spend time being gay with Malaya without direct contact with her gross fluids” really doesn’t add anything to that story.
I think that Carla is misreading Malaya’s self-centred misanthropy and trouble-making for being someone like her – A loud, brash and playful person who likes pranking and insulting. In fact, I argue that the two are about as different as you can get and I’m waiting for Malaya to break Carla’s heart because she has a whim to do so or she is clearly of no use to her in pursuing her vendetta with Sal.
I think you are right. She does clearly want friends though.
StClair
or at least a friend, a single intimate and/or confidante. Sort of like serial monogamy, but not necessarily romantic/sexual.
Malaya assumes that Sal wants the cult (which, I suspect, she actually wants for herself, and as a one-way relationship – they adore her, she gives them nothing). Sal, I believe, wants just one True Friend (or a very very small number).
What do you need two for, even? I only have one, and I make do perfectly well.
…Just so we’re on the same page, ‘friends’ are electric, right? The ones that make the bread go brown? I only have the one in my kitchen… I mean, I suppose I could have one at work, but I think my co-workers would frown at that sort of thing.
Agemegos
There are real advantages to having a friend in the bedroom.
That would require Malaya to both be capable of friendship and qualify as people, and I know she’s not a person so this relationship is already headed downhill.
(1) Malaya is capable of friendships, this is established in the other universe; in fact, one of her longest-lasting Walkyverse relationships (running right up until the end of the Walkyverse) was with Ultra-Car/Carla. (2) Malaya most certainly is a person. A quite misanthropic person sure most probably, but that doesn’t deny her personhood status.
cbwroses
1. Her relationship with Carla in the Walkyverse was a romantic one, or at least became one, which for a number of people makes the term “friend” a little weird to apply in that situation. Not everyone. Maybe not even most people. But a number of people would definitely hesitate there.
2. These are similar, yet different people in this universe. Their personality traits are not a one to one match. For example, Walky in the Walkyverse pretended to be stupid to avoid responsibility while actually being very intelligent. Here Walky admits to being intelligent pretty easily. And he doesn’t avoid responsibility so much as he avoids feelings, doing so through almost constant sarcasm and snark. Similar yet different.
Now is it more likely that Carla will make Malaya better, or that Malaya will make Carla worse? (also, I’m getting the strangest sense of deja vu, has this happened before?)
Alſo, anyone want to bet that Carla juſt intentionally, literally ſlammed the door in Mary’s face in the firſt panel there – but with a touch of plauſible deniability ſhould Mary complain?
(also, my ſpell-checker recognizes words ſpelled with a long-s as being grammatically correct, which is aweſome)
In celebration of that vein, here is today’s tranſcript, brought to you by Long-S®:
*ſlam!*
Malaya:“Sal, you’re juſt jealous ‘cuz you uſedta draw the crowds.” Sal: “I never wanted thoſe crowds!”
Malaya:“Didn’t you?” Carla:“Yeah, Sal, lying to yourſelf iſn’t an attractive trait.” Sal:“An’ what, Carla, you’re fine with bein’ reduced to a Malaya hanger-on?” Carla:“I– I’m not a Malaya hanger-on! I’m juſt here for the iguana. Who I don’t even like that much, really.”
Now I really want to see Carla babysit Faz. There is no possible way that it can’t be amazing. Will Carla be willing to weaponize Faz’s creepiness? Will Faz have his mind placed into a robot and shifted to another universe where he becomes the basis for a new era of AI and eventually ends up in the home of a indie rock fan?
On the one hand 2 out 3 people in this room deserve to die, on the other hand Sal can’t afford any more blood on her hands. Where’s Mike and a bag of nickels when you need them?
wow. do you wanna think of the implications of saying a trans woman character deserves to be beaten to death by a cis man and woman because you don’t like her and maybe take a step back.
That wouldn’t make it sound any less nasty or hateful. Intent doesn’t just magically make context irrelevant.
Hell, even if it’s only about Carla’s personality, “she deserves to die” would be uncalled for. And as nev pointed out, the fact that Kyrik thinks these two deserve death just for being abrasive jerks, but is totally okay with Mike’s outright abuse makes me rather skeptical that personality is the main issue.
Inahc
yup.
Kyrik Michalowski
Actually it was absolutely about their personalities and the implication for Mike to do it instead of Sal was it would ruin his life instead of hers. Still you and the other comments are right I was way out of line and over the top. I was already at the end of a bad day but it’s still not an excuse for calling for the death of characters I find to simply be frustrating, especially for something as minor as making someone else mad. I’d delete the comment entirely but don’t have an actual account so I can’t, let it sit there as a reminder to myself if nothing else.
158 thoughts on “Crowds”
King Daniel
Fuckface is indeed the best iguana.
Deanatay
We’re all just here for the iguana.
AnvilPro
So is Carla romantically interested in Malaya? She seems really forward about hanging out. Also Sal is totally in denial
Yumi
I want that but also Marcie?
Solution: Carla-Malaya-Marcie poly relationship.
Marsh Maryrose
Just by coincidence, Carla recently ordered this T-shirt.
Sterling
I doubt it! If I’m not mistaken, Willis has said he’s trying not to retread canon endgame relationship grounds here. I mean, okay, it could be one sided on Carla’s part for the dramas, but it really doesn’t feel like there’s any point to establishing that in the broader narrative. Right now, Marcie has her smoochin’ sights set on Malaya, and that’s the main conflict of her story – her essential “homewrecking” of Sal and Marcie’s long friendship. Introducing “also Carla wants to spend time being gay with Malaya without direct contact with her gross fluids” really doesn’t add anything to that story.
Inahc
sal wrecked that pretty well on her own. :/ malaya just rubs salt in the wound. aggressively.
BenRG
I think that Carla is misreading Malaya’s self-centred misanthropy and trouble-making for being someone like her – A loud, brash and playful person who likes pranking and insulting. In fact, I argue that the two are about as different as you can get and I’m waiting for Malaya to break Carla’s heart because she has a whim to do so or she is clearly of no use to her in pursuing her vendetta with Sal.
Felix
Nah, Carla is being tsuntere towards Fuckface, obviously.
Vi
I dunno, I don’t think Sal IS lying to herself. She kind of genuinely didn’t want the hangers-on. I don’t think she’s in denial.
Also, Malaya doesn’t deserve Marcie.
Ravenryy
I think you are right. She does clearly want friends though.
StClair
or at least a friend, a single intimate and/or confidante. Sort of like serial monogamy, but not necessarily romantic/sexual.
Malaya assumes that Sal wants the cult (which, I suspect, she actually wants for herself, and as a one-way relationship – they adore her, she gives them nothing). Sal, I believe, wants just one True Friend (or a very very small number).
Liliet
mm!
Yumi
C’mon, Carla. We all love the iguana.
Willinwoods
Well, you give every iguana 11s or 12s. It doesn’t even make any sense.
Nymphie
They’re good iguanas, Brent
Ivy
What happened to people being friends?
Yumi
Psh, no one really has more than two friends maximum.
…Right?
Passchendaele
Yep, any more is definitely a conspiracy!
Tacos
Exactly. If there’s three then one is definitely out to kill you.
Mortartarsaus
If you have enough friends to fill up a moderately-sized Sedan the you’re either the leader of or a follower in a very small cult
David DeLaney
Or you’re in high school.
–Dave, in college there’ll be more, but most will be “acquaintances” due to your time constraints
Alan
What do you need two for, even? I only have one, and I make do perfectly well.
…Just so we’re on the same page, ‘friends’ are electric, right? The ones that make the bread go brown? I only have the one in my kitchen… I mean, I suppose I could have one at work, but I think my co-workers would frown at that sort of thing.
Agemegos
There are real advantages to having a friend in the bedroom.
Emperor Norton II
Toast crumbs in the bed is not really an advantage.
David DeLaney
If your electric bedroom friend is a toaster, ur doin’ it rong.
–Dave, and shocking revelations might be in store
Kyrik Michalowski
That would require Malaya to both be capable of friendship and qualify as people, and I know she’s not a person so this relationship is already headed downhill.
King Daniel
(1) Malaya is capable of friendships, this is established in the other universe; in fact, one of her longest-lasting Walkyverse relationships (running right up until the end of the Walkyverse) was with Ultra-Car/Carla.
(2) Malaya most certainly is a person. A quite misanthropic person sure most probably, but that doesn’t deny her personhood status.
cbwroses
1. Her relationship with Carla in the Walkyverse was a romantic one, or at least became one, which for a number of people makes the term “friend” a little weird to apply in that situation. Not everyone. Maybe not even most people. But a number of people would definitely hesitate there.
2. These are similar, yet different people in this universe. Their personality traits are not a one to one match. For example, Walky in the Walkyverse pretended to be stupid to avoid responsibility while actually being very intelligent. Here Walky admits to being intelligent pretty easily. And he doesn’t avoid responsibility so much as he avoids feelings, doing so through almost constant sarcasm and snark. Similar yet different.
Inahc
o.0 unless you meant “not a person because fictional”, that is… not cool.
Stephen Bierce
*plays Alice Cooper’s “Under My Wheels” on the hacked Muzak*
DarkoNeko
OH NO they paired up
Some1
Now is it more likely that Carla will make Malaya better, or that Malaya will make Carla worse? (also, I’m getting the strangest sense of deja vu, has this happened before?)
Commentary Ver.2.72
Walkyverse?
Some1
No, in the sense that I feel we’ve had this conversation before. Like I already asked the question.
Passchendaele
smooth, Carla, Sal will never suspect. 😛
hof1991
but it does locl Mary out. Always worthwhile. Mary will think they are plotting against her.
David DeLaney
… “call”? — oh, “lock”, okay.
–Dave, nothing to see here, carry on
newllend(henryvolt)
Lizards are kind of cool and intriguing….also there’s a lot of sweet burns going around in this strip.
Opus the Poet
Carla is just looking for some of that sweet Fuckface disdain.
Deanatay
It’s why Fuckface is there – basking in the heat of the sweet burns.
David DeLaney
I like how Fuckface gets a finer line to be drawn with than the hu-mons.
–Dave, delicate but uncaring
Kernanator
I also am just here for the iguana.
HMRC4EVR
We’re all just here for the iguana.
Deanatay
Twinsies!
Deanatay
Just realized we just stumbled upon the best chapter title.
‘I’m Just Here For The Iguana’
leadsynth
I sure hope we get an Iguana chapter title. I’m ready for this Faz chapter to be over.
Needfuldoer
Fuckface helps fill the Comics Iguana gap left after Foxtrot stopped updating daily
King Daniel
Alſo, anyone want to bet that Carla juſt intentionally, literally ſlammed the door in Mary’s face in the firſt panel there – but with a touch of plauſible deniability ſhould Mary complain?
(also, my ſpell-checker recognizes words ſpelled with a long-s as being grammatically correct, which is aweſome)
King Daniel
In celebration of that vein, here is today’s tranſcript, brought to you by Long-S®:
*ſlam!*
Malaya: “Sal, you’re juſt jealous ‘cuz you uſedta draw the crowds.”
Sal: “I never wanted thoſe crowds!”
Malaya: “Didn’t you?”
Carla: “Yeah, Sal, lying to yourſelf iſn’t an attractive trait.”
Sal: “An’ what, Carla, you’re fine with bein’ reduced to a Malaya hanger-on?”
Carla: “I– I’m not a Malaya hanger-on! I’m juſt here for the iguana. Who I don’t even like that much, really.”
King Daniel
Hrmm, with a bit more of the old-faſhioned ſpeech-patterns…this could be ſomething.
Deanatay
It lookf like you’re talking with lifpf, which is awefome.
(I could research how to type a long ‘s’, but using ‘f’ works fine for me.)
tim gueguen
“Why would you wish to spend time with an iguana when Faz is available?”
Some1
Now I really want to see Carla babysit Faz. There is no possible way that it can’t be amazing. Will Carla be willing to weaponize Faz’s creepiness? Will Faz have his mind placed into a robot and shifted to another universe where he becomes the basis for a new era of AI and eventually ends up in the home of a indie rock fan?
Transgressingwaffle
That…. That just makes too much sense. New head cannon accepted.
David DeLaney
Well, turns out Carla wasn’t up next, but it’s certainly a future option!
–Dave, in a day or two comic time maybe?
Nono
Hmm, odds on Carla shutting the door not only to be rude to Mary, but prevent her from seeing the iguana?
Tenchan
Iguana is like, “Tsunderes gonna Tsundere.”
Adj
Someone who talks about punchable faces easily has the MOST punchable face in panel 4 there.
leadsynth
For real. Damnit, Malaya!
Kyrik Michalowski
On the one hand 2 out 3 people in this room deserve to die, on the other hand Sal can’t afford any more blood on her hands. Where’s Mike and a bag of nickels when you need them?
King Daniel
…“Carla and Malaya deserve to die”, what I can’t even
Axel
What’s that you’re saying about Carla, Kyrik?
nev
wow. do you wanna think of the implications of saying a trans woman character deserves to be beaten to death by a cis man and woman because you don’t like her and maybe take a step back.
alice
thanks tbh
Axel
this and what Fart Captor said
BenRG
I’m pretty sure that it has nothing to do with Carla’s gender and everything to do with her attitude.
Fart Captor
That wouldn’t make it sound any less nasty or hateful. Intent doesn’t just magically make context irrelevant.
Hell, even if it’s only about Carla’s personality, “she deserves to die” would be uncalled for. And as nev pointed out, the fact that Kyrik thinks these two deserve death just for being abrasive jerks, but is totally okay with Mike’s outright abuse makes me rather skeptical that personality is the main issue.
Inahc
yup.
Kyrik Michalowski
Actually it was absolutely about their personalities and the implication for Mike to do it instead of Sal was it would ruin his life instead of hers. Still you and the other comments are right I was way out of line and over the top. I was already at the end of a bad day but it’s still not an excuse for calling for the death of characters I find to simply be frustrating, especially for something as minor as making someone else mad. I’d delete the comment entirely but don’t have an actual account so I can’t, let it sit there as a reminder to myself if nothing else.