Except that’ll probably prompt Jason to mention hooking up with Sal, and it’ll all be downhill from there.
Emily
Or Walky will hook up with Jason
Doctor_Who
I don’t really see Walky as the “Hands off my sister!” type. I think if Jason told him about him and Sal he either A) wouldn’t care or B) would laugh in Jason’s face because no way would SAL go for that.
emusam
I see Walky as the type to feel obligated to be “Hands off my sister!” but to put very little effort into it and to back down as soon as someone talked to him in a way he understood. He thought his his father had to fight the Dean, and I don’t think he was entirely joking: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/fancypantslounge/ Walky thought something needed to happen to create resolution for himself as he was very uncomfortable with his mother having a life before being a mother.
You know, for all the crap they get, the core Sith philosophy is based entirely on personal freedom. The Jedi are all about self-denial, order and stability, and the wellfare of the community at the expense of the individual. Oh, and kidnapping and brainwashing children based on the fact they’re force sensitive and trying to turn them into emotionless warrior-monks with no family. All in the name of bringing “balance” to the force. Which means attempting to destroy the dark side despite the fact that you don’t balance anything by that. You don’t have two bricks on two sides of a scale, and then take one of the bricks away and claim the scale’s balanced. Sorry major Sith fan here. Especially because it’s any source of passion that gives strength, not just anger and hate. Love and joy count as well.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion I gain strength.
Through strength I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken.
The force shall set me free.
Aside from “peace is a lie”, what part of that code is evil?
BBCC
Well, they’re run by anger and hatred – love is considered a personal weakness to be expunged. And their philosophy is ‘if it helps you, fuck everyone else, you’re stronger so you have the right to do whatever the fuck you want’. That’s…..pretty fucking evil, imo.
Also, according to Lucas, the dark side is like a cancer shoving the Force out of balance, hence why getting rid of it is the point of bringing balance to the force.
Was this before or after he decided the force was midiclorians?
Plus in the “Legends” canon (I don’t know if the pre-film EU is still canon to the films or not) the original J’eddai used both the light and dark sides of the force and actually sent members who were leaning to the extremes of either to meditate on the force on moons representing the light and dark sides of the force until they came back to inner balance. Then the Rakata screwed everything up like they always do by trying to invade Tython. This then led to a civil war on Tython between light side and dark side extremists, with the dark side extremists being destroyed, with the light siders founding the Jedi Order. Meanwhile the original Sith species had a natural connection to the dark side that literally helped them survive on their death planet homeworld. They didn’t become a real threat until a bunch of Jedi who had fallen to the dark side (which happens a lot, meaning that either the Jedi Order is doing something wrong with their training, or the force is trying to balance itself out because two many people devoted solely to the light throws it out of wack) conquered and started interbreeding with them, bringing Dark Jedi philosophies with them to what was essentially a race of red skinned, non-tusked, space Orcs with a proud warrior culture. And then over centuries the Sith ended up being the name for the order. However, until the Sith Empire was wiped out they still continued to have things like honor duels and could still form lifelong friendships and even stable families without being killed, and had a prosperous (if at times unstable) semi-feudal semi-tribal society. I guess my main thing is that a Sith can still be a good person even if they believe in Sith philosophy, just like Jedi can be straight up evil at times while still maintaining their belief in Jedi philosophy. And the Jedi Order itself kept getting worse and worse. By the time of the prequels, the purpose of the Jedi Order is to make sure force wielders eventually become extinct. They’re taking children from their families at young ages, molding them into fanatical warrior monks, then making sure that these force wielders do not have children of their own. The reason force powers got so rare is because over thousands of years the Jedi Order slowly wiped them out by holding them in gilded cages and letting them die off without reproducing. That’s pretty damn sinister.
Jhon
Spoken like a true history nerd.
(Applauds)
Jhon
Now, what about the Treaty of San Stefano?
(Don’t hold back – tell me what you really think)
BBCC
I’m not sure when he said this, but I believe it was after. He said the Force created Anakin as a sort of last ditch effort to balance itself by destroying the Sith – which, whether we’re counting Legends or not, was clearly a failure. The Sith come back in Legends and First Order are basically Sith in every way that matters. Plus the number of other Dark Siders who survived.
Also – Jedi, per the Legends canon, weren’t allowed attachment. They weren’t celibate. There were also at least two Jedi who got married and had families at the time of the prequels – Ki Adi Mundi (which was allowed because his species had a SEVERELY low number of boy babies and so they needed as many kids as possible to get that number up) and another one who simply flouted the rules (which was allowed because she remained sufficiently emotionally unattached).
Personally, I tend more towards Luke Skywalker’s Jedi Order. Much healthier. I also don’t mind the ‘alternative’ Jedi Code, which is more about accepting emotion, passion, etc. but not letting them blind you to the greater good.
And – at least after Darth Bane came around – the Sith weren’t allowed love or babies either, as they were a weakness, so the Sith would fuck the number of Force sensitive babies too.
In Jason’s defense, Walky has skipped a couple of weeks of class, drew him getting eaten by a T-Rex, and is CURRENTLY assaulting him in an attempt to get a higher grade than he actually deserves.
He skipped one class and half of this one. But yes, Walky’s not being great here either.
MM
Not to mention that Walky is probably the fifth kid today who’s implied he should get an A just for showing up and expressing even minimal interest.
Durandal_1707
This. There is nothing more annoying than college kids that think they just deserve an A no matter whether they do anything or not.
Kinoko
Right? I was raised with the expectation that an A is for exceptional work only and a B is just fine. And that’s certainly how colleges grade, in my experience.
At the end of the day, I studied art, graduated, am now employed doing art, and am fairly happy. The grades didn’t matter at all beyond pass/fail.
Yet_One_More_Idiot
A character saying “Mum”? Yay, go stuffy English TA! 😛
I studied (pure) maths at university, and believe me there are some classes where scraping through is still acceptable, and getting top marks would be exceptional IF NOT BETTER.
I failed 4 out of the 8 classes in my third/final year, but to be fair those classes were:
Real Analysis II (doesn’t sound scary yet right? But then…)
Special Relativity and Electromagnetism
Introductory Quantum Theory
Quantum Mechanics II
(to be fair, I did pass Spacetime Geometry and General Relativity…although I have literally zero idea how I managed that xD)
Walky’s just got to learn to set the bar at an appropriate height depending on the difficulty of the course he’s taking (in QM2, the historic passrate was less than 10% – and there were only 10 of us in the class; the stats indicated that 1 of us MIGHT pass the class…and the stats bore out, one person passed it with like 43%!)
Walky – don’t assault the guy, even if he is a jerk most of the time; ask him for genuine help. Ask him what you can do to pull your grades up as far as they can go. Ask him if there’s any extra credit you could take to pull it up even further. You can still salvage this. IF. YOU. REALLY. TRY.
Barf Ninjason
I don’t think he implied that – he just forcefully stated his intent to study hard to get an A. He’s not going “hiw can you not give me an A?”, he’s flipping out at the idea that it might be too late to get one.
Mikael
Bha, I seen so many of these entitlement kids coming up from highschool-equivalent thinking they know math as they got top grades using the left hand blindfolded. What they really did was learning counting beans, sometimes in fancy ways, but still not mathematics.at.all.
When teachers pet suddenly don’t exists as concept and they suddenly need to think and learn, they flips and throws tantrums like nothing. Mostly comes around of course… But some seems to repeat it every course for the whole university stay.
He’s skipped at least two, not counting this one. The first one was Monday 4, because Dorothy’s alarm didn’t go off after he performed his first sex. Then two days ago, Monday 6, he was fighting crime as His Grace, Duke of Thingley, during class.
Wednesday 5 got timeskipped in the aftermath of butthole dad. I don’t think Walky skipped class that day, because I think he’d been drafted to help keep an eye on Joyce, but it’s possible he did.
plus, walky has been coasting by, thinking the math he learns in college will no more difficult than the math he learned in high school. because of walky’s inability to put in the work necessary for an A, of course jason would have a negative opinion of him.
To also be fair, Jason thought that Dina was the one who drew him getting eaten by a T-Rex, since that’s who he returned the homework to. I think the first encounter was Jason trying to approach Walky about his grades and Walky panicking before getting away as quickly as possible. So it would appear that Jason is a “you get one chance” type of person.
BBCC
Jason’s not Dina’s TA. Penny is, as per Patreon canon.
thejeff
Nonetheless, the T-Rex was returned to Dina, so the mix-up is certainly possible.
BBCC
Oh yeah, the mix up was made, I’m just not sure it was made by Jason, as he’s not Dina’s TA. It’s debatable he even knows her.
Right? Like, this is a cartoon world. It’s funny when cartoon characters are kind of dickish to each other–it doesn’t make them all irredeemable assholes.
You don’t say that to strangers though, do you? To kids you tutor? Like… it’s a horrible thing because Jason doesn’t know it won’t hurt Walky, and it could hurt someone pretty bad.
Jason starts off as merely blunt, and doesn’t go to total asshole until Walky’s grabbing him and yelling in his face. I’m pretty sure I’d instinctively hit someone at that point, so being a dick is a step up.
… How much experience does Jason have with exactly this that he doesn’t see a need to physically defend himself?
Honestly, at that point, I’d definitely be liable to punch him and yell at him for acting like that, so Jason’s being a jackass is a comparatively better reaction. At the same time, he knows punching a student would likely get him fired (as Penny pointed out, he’s selfish and pretentious enough that everyone else in the staff despises him and would love an excuse to get rid of him), he’s already used to Sal pushing him around, and he’s a total pushover. Besides, bitter snark seems to be his default mood.
Perhaps Jason could work on his delivery, but seriously this is college. The days of hand holding and gold stars are over and Walky is as irritating as every other entitled student whining about their poor grades. Admittedly graduate students don’t get much in the way of teaching lessons so they’re not the best educators, but it’s expected that their students should have enough aptitude to be there otherwise they wouldn’t have enrolled in the calls.
420 thoughts on “Deadline”
AnvilPro
They’re gonna be best friends in a week or two.
Doctor_Who
Maybe if they get drunk together.
Someone get Walky a thimble full of watered beer.
Danni
or o’douls
JetstreamGW
Whoa whoa, hey now, let’s not get crazy here.
He can’t handle that.
MM
Except that’ll probably prompt Jason to mention hooking up with Sal, and it’ll all be downhill from there.
Emily
Or Walky will hook up with Jason
Doctor_Who
I don’t really see Walky as the “Hands off my sister!” type. I think if Jason told him about him and Sal he either A) wouldn’t care or B) would laugh in Jason’s face because no way would SAL go for that.
emusam
I see Walky as the type to feel obligated to be “Hands off my sister!” but to put very little effort into it and to back down as soon as someone talked to him in a way he understood. He thought his his father had to fight the Dean, and I don’t think he was entirely joking: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/fancypantslounge/ Walky thought something needed to happen to create resolution for himself as he was very uncomfortable with his mother having a life before being a mother.
Clif
I’m just curious about what happens if Sal is the one who tells him.
BBCC
He also felt like he and Danny were obligated to be nemeses.
Needfuldoer
Diet cream soda and just tell him it’s beer.
Deanatay
Wait, are we supposed to ship this?
Because, I could.
Javid?
Mr. Mendo
Oh, I’ve been where Walky’s at…
DarkoNeko
Snap those suspenders
SNAP
THEM
Emperor Daniel
Use your aggressive feelings…
Chris
Use your anger, your hatred. Let it fuel you. Let the dark side flow through you, use your passion, your fear. Through the dark side you are unleashed
Rukduk
You know, for all the crap they get, the core Sith philosophy is based entirely on personal freedom. The Jedi are all about self-denial, order and stability, and the wellfare of the community at the expense of the individual. Oh, and kidnapping and brainwashing children based on the fact they’re force sensitive and trying to turn them into emotionless warrior-monks with no family. All in the name of bringing “balance” to the force. Which means attempting to destroy the dark side despite the fact that you don’t balance anything by that. You don’t have two bricks on two sides of a scale, and then take one of the bricks away and claim the scale’s balanced. Sorry major Sith fan here. Especially because it’s any source of passion that gives strength, not just anger and hate. Love and joy count as well.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion I gain strength.
Through strength I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken.
The force shall set me free.
Aside from “peace is a lie”, what part of that code is evil?
BBCC
Well, they’re run by anger and hatred – love is considered a personal weakness to be expunged. And their philosophy is ‘if it helps you, fuck everyone else, you’re stronger so you have the right to do whatever the fuck you want’. That’s…..pretty fucking evil, imo.
Also, according to Lucas, the dark side is like a cancer shoving the Force out of balance, hence why getting rid of it is the point of bringing balance to the force.
Rukduk
Was this before or after he decided the force was midiclorians?
Plus in the “Legends” canon (I don’t know if the pre-film EU is still canon to the films or not) the original J’eddai used both the light and dark sides of the force and actually sent members who were leaning to the extremes of either to meditate on the force on moons representing the light and dark sides of the force until they came back to inner balance. Then the Rakata screwed everything up like they always do by trying to invade Tython. This then led to a civil war on Tython between light side and dark side extremists, with the dark side extremists being destroyed, with the light siders founding the Jedi Order. Meanwhile the original Sith species had a natural connection to the dark side that literally helped them survive on their death planet homeworld. They didn’t become a real threat until a bunch of Jedi who had fallen to the dark side (which happens a lot, meaning that either the Jedi Order is doing something wrong with their training, or the force is trying to balance itself out because two many people devoted solely to the light throws it out of wack) conquered and started interbreeding with them, bringing Dark Jedi philosophies with them to what was essentially a race of red skinned, non-tusked, space Orcs with a proud warrior culture. And then over centuries the Sith ended up being the name for the order. However, until the Sith Empire was wiped out they still continued to have things like honor duels and could still form lifelong friendships and even stable families without being killed, and had a prosperous (if at times unstable) semi-feudal semi-tribal society. I guess my main thing is that a Sith can still be a good person even if they believe in Sith philosophy, just like Jedi can be straight up evil at times while still maintaining their belief in Jedi philosophy. And the Jedi Order itself kept getting worse and worse. By the time of the prequels, the purpose of the Jedi Order is to make sure force wielders eventually become extinct. They’re taking children from their families at young ages, molding them into fanatical warrior monks, then making sure that these force wielders do not have children of their own. The reason force powers got so rare is because over thousands of years the Jedi Order slowly wiped them out by holding them in gilded cages and letting them die off without reproducing. That’s pretty damn sinister.
Jhon
Spoken like a true history nerd.
(Applauds)
Jhon
Now, what about the Treaty of San Stefano?
(Don’t hold back – tell me what you really think)
BBCC
I’m not sure when he said this, but I believe it was after. He said the Force created Anakin as a sort of last ditch effort to balance itself by destroying the Sith – which, whether we’re counting Legends or not, was clearly a failure. The Sith come back in Legends and First Order are basically Sith in every way that matters. Plus the number of other Dark Siders who survived.
Also – Jedi, per the Legends canon, weren’t allowed attachment. They weren’t celibate. There were also at least two Jedi who got married and had families at the time of the prequels – Ki Adi Mundi (which was allowed because his species had a SEVERELY low number of boy babies and so they needed as many kids as possible to get that number up) and another one who simply flouted the rules (which was allowed because she remained sufficiently emotionally unattached).
Personally, I tend more towards Luke Skywalker’s Jedi Order. Much healthier. I also don’t mind the ‘alternative’ Jedi Code, which is more about accepting emotion, passion, etc. but not letting them blind you to the greater good.
And – at least after Darth Bane came around – the Sith weren’t allowed love or babies either, as they were a weakness, so the Sith would fuck the number of Force sensitive babies too.
BBCC
This is fun! I miss chatting legends continuity.
Danni
get used to having an F, walky.
Some1
Walky: how do I get a better grade?
Jason: no way of consequence
Walky: I must know
Jason: get used to dissapointment
Ana Chronistic
don’t worry, Walky, Comic Time means your mum will see your grades about the same time the EARTH falls into the sun, so
still doing better than Trump’s handiwork LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Ana Chronistic
[debated even bothering to post NOT FIRST since I was distracted by a Slipshine, but eh]
Some1
What in the ever living fuck does this have to do with anything related to my comment!
Are you high Ana?
Ana Chronistic
AS A KITE
that is on the ground
SgtWadeyWilson
Are we talkin’ sea level? ‘Cause, I don’t know if you realize… but there’s some pretty high ground out there.
Some1
Your comment says no, your gravatar says yes.
Jade
Ana Chron(ist)ic
The answer’s been before you this entire time.
Micro-Girl
If you want to argue politics might I suggest you do it here https://www.debatepolitics.com/
John
Who’s arguing? That the entire Trump junta is a complete shitshow is just objective fact.
Pablo360
Man, fuck Jason. “I should think you’d be accustomed to disappointing your mum?” That is… unbelievably horrible.
lia47
ikr, “mum” this is america ya limey bastard
Remmington Steele
Jason is wearing “braces”, not “suspenders” Yankee.
Deanatay
WRONG. Every American knows braces go in the mouth!
a snow ʍousɐ
Let’s just relax over some chips and a tray of freshly baked biscuits.
AND IF I SO MUCH AS SEE A FRENCH FRY OR COOKIE, SO HELP ME GOD
Falling Star
Sorry, the can is out of order, please redirect to the loo.
Remmington Steele
I can’t help it if you don’t know your own language … madre de dios!
Some1
If it’s Walky is anything to go by, Jason is probably projecting
AlexanderHammil
In Jason’s defense, Walky has skipped a couple of weeks of class, drew him getting eaten by a T-Rex, and is CURRENTLY assaulting him in an attempt to get a higher grade than he actually deserves.
BBCC
He skipped one class and half of this one. But yes, Walky’s not being great here either.
MM
Not to mention that Walky is probably the fifth kid today who’s implied he should get an A just for showing up and expressing even minimal interest.
Durandal_1707
This. There is nothing more annoying than college kids that think they just deserve an A no matter whether they do anything or not.
Kinoko
Right? I was raised with the expectation that an A is for exceptional work only and a B is just fine. And that’s certainly how colleges grade, in my experience.
At the end of the day, I studied art, graduated, am now employed doing art, and am fairly happy. The grades didn’t matter at all beyond pass/fail.
Yet_One_More_Idiot
A character saying “Mum”? Yay, go stuffy English TA! 😛
I studied (pure) maths at university, and believe me there are some classes where scraping through is still acceptable, and getting top marks would be exceptional IF NOT BETTER.
I failed 4 out of the 8 classes in my third/final year, but to be fair those classes were:
Real Analysis II (doesn’t sound scary yet right? But then…)
Special Relativity and Electromagnetism
Introductory Quantum Theory
Quantum Mechanics II
(to be fair, I did pass Spacetime Geometry and General Relativity…although I have literally zero idea how I managed that xD)
Walky’s just got to learn to set the bar at an appropriate height depending on the difficulty of the course he’s taking (in QM2, the historic passrate was less than 10% – and there were only 10 of us in the class; the stats indicated that 1 of us MIGHT pass the class…and the stats bore out, one person passed it with like 43%!)
Walky – don’t assault the guy, even if he is a jerk most of the time; ask him for genuine help. Ask him what you can do to pull your grades up as far as they can go. Ask him if there’s any extra credit you could take to pull it up even further. You can still salvage this. IF. YOU. REALLY. TRY.
Barf Ninjason
I don’t think he implied that – he just forcefully stated his intent to study hard to get an A. He’s not going “hiw can you not give me an A?”, he’s flipping out at the idea that it might be too late to get one.
Mikael
Bha, I seen so many of these entitlement kids coming up from highschool-equivalent thinking they know math as they got top grades using the left hand blindfolded. What they really did was learning counting beans, sometimes in fancy ways, but still not mathematics.at.all.
When teachers pet suddenly don’t exists as concept and they suddenly need to think and learn, they flips and throws tantrums like nothing. Mostly comes around of course… But some seems to repeat it every course for the whole university stay.
John
He’s skipped at least two, not counting this one. The first one was Monday 4, because Dorothy’s alarm didn’t go off after he performed his first sex. Then two days ago, Monday 6, he was fighting crime as His Grace, Duke of Thingley, during class.
Wednesday 5 got timeskipped in the aftermath of butthole dad. I don’t think Walky skipped class that day, because I think he’d been drafted to help keep an eye on Joyce, but it’s possible he did.
Sporky
Yeah, I was gonna say. Pretty sure that was deserved here. Nothing that Jason has seen Walky say or do makes him look good.
Pablo360
You don’t SAY something like this to someone! It’s a horrible thing to say to anyone. I wouldn’t even say it to
Okay I’d totally say it to Donald Trump.
But still!
Danni
plus, walky has been coasting by, thinking the math he learns in college will no more difficult than the math he learned in high school. because of walky’s inability to put in the work necessary for an A, of course jason would have a negative opinion of him.
Rukduk
To also be fair, Jason thought that Dina was the one who drew him getting eaten by a T-Rex, since that’s who he returned the homework to. I think the first encounter was Jason trying to approach Walky about his grades and Walky panicking before getting away as quickly as possible. So it would appear that Jason is a “you get one chance” type of person.
BBCC
Jason’s not Dina’s TA. Penny is, as per Patreon canon.
thejeff
Nonetheless, the T-Rex was returned to Dina, so the mix-up is certainly possible.
BBCC
Oh yeah, the mix up was made, I’m just not sure it was made by Jason, as he’s not Dina’s TA. It’s debatable he even knows her.
Clif
She’s in his class, and since it had a drawing of a dinosaur, it was a completely understandable mistake. Regardless of who made it.
BBCC
Dina isn’t in Jason’s class. She’s in Professor Rees’ class, but her section has Penny as a TA.
TemporalShrew
Is it? I say meaner things to people I *like*.
Some1
Eh the DOA commenters are massive shit stains
Am I joking, I’m I not…who knows!?
TemporalShrew
Are you? I for one can vouch: I am a massive shitstain.
Some1
A good rule of thumb is that anyone who calls themself a shitstain is not a shitstain
Unless they stab someone or something
tyersome
I don’t know, do you deserve to be stabbed? I would assume no, but your avatar says ‘maybe’…
SgtWadeyWilson
No, it says “Fools!” Gosh, it doesn’t even have any letters in common with maybe. (Sarcasm, obviously.)
Toad
Right? Like, this is a cartoon world. It’s funny when cartoon characters are kind of dickish to each other–it doesn’t make them all irredeemable assholes.
Pablo360
But you wouldn’t say something like that to someone you weren’t close with. There’s a difference between friendly ribbing and what Jason is doing.
Liliet
You don’t say that to strangers though, do you? To kids you tutor? Like… it’s a horrible thing because Jason doesn’t know it won’t hurt Walky, and it could hurt someone pretty bad.
Cattleprod
Jason starts off as merely blunt, and doesn’t go to total asshole until Walky’s grabbing him and yelling in his face. I’m pretty sure I’d instinctively hit someone at that point, so being a dick is a step up.
… How much experience does Jason have with exactly this that he doesn’t see a need to physically defend himself?
Passchendaele
Honestly, at that point, I’d definitely be liable to punch him and yell at him for acting like that, so Jason’s being a jackass is a comparatively better reaction. At the same time, he knows punching a student would likely get him fired (as Penny pointed out, he’s selfish and pretentious enough that everyone else in the staff despises him and would love an excuse to get rid of him), he’s already used to Sal pushing him around, and he’s a total pushover. Besides, bitter snark seems to be his default mood.
brasca1
Perhaps Jason could work on his delivery, but seriously this is college. The days of hand holding and gold stars are over and Walky is as irritating as every other entitled student whining about their poor grades. Admittedly graduate students don’t get much in the way of teaching lessons so they’re not the best educators, but it’s expected that their students should have enough aptitude to be there otherwise they wouldn’t have enrolled in the calls.
Abel Undercity
I’ll say! Suspenders are underwear, Jason! Get yourself a jacket and clothe yourself like a decent human being!
rectilinearpropagation