O Lord, please don’t burn us,
Don’t grill us or toast your flock,
Don’t put us on a barbecue,
Or simmer us in stock,
Don’t braise us or bake or boil us,
Or stir-fry us in a wok
Hey at least she admits that she’s a little eccentric, and not all of it is Christianity. Maybe she’s not as well-adjusted as she thinks. Little kids are the ones who insist on eating each item separately. Pizza, however, is designed to be eating as a “melange”, though.
Obviously children are the closest to God, having most recently come down from heaven, and not yet having been corrupted by worldly things. That is why they naturally feel the desire to eat food the way God made it.
By that logic you shouldn’t eat anything artificially produced because they use many different ingredients and chemicals. Not that eating artificial foods is a great idea in the first place.
And nothing in nature is dangerous! That’s why I drink rattlesnake venom and arsenic cocktails before bed!
Roborat
I have had interesting conversations with the “man made chemicals are bad crowd”. I simply ask them to explain how naturally occurring sulfuric acid is better than sulfuric acid made in a factory. It usually shuts them up. These people cannot explain to me how two otherwise identical chemicals can be bad or good, depending on what the source of said chemical is.
NightRaven
Oooh, ooh, I have an answer to that one! Naturally occurring sulphur vs artificially created sulphur. I believe, based on looking back at the history of sciency stuff about atoms, building blocks, etc., that there is likely a lot of different constituent parts of the naturally occuring chemicals that we simply haven’t even been able to detect yet. Therefore, creating them artificially includes the risk of not being able to replicate all the juicy goodies that might be in the natural world.
A
H2Ohhhh snap!
Flux
Well chemicals aren’t bad per se, that would be like saying any blanket statement, like, I don’t know, “All people are horrible.” Some are, some aren’t.
Really, different chemicals have different effects on the human body, which is why water = good and cyanide = deadly. It really just comes down to the individual chemical involved, and personally I don’t begrudge people for choosing to be wary of something they can’t even read on a label, especially since additives like MSG and Aspartame have already been discovered to be less than good for you…
I do agree that “chemicals” is an unnecessary-overly-generalized buzzword however. The dialogue should be more sophisticated than that.
sd
Aspartame and MSG? Those sound like prototypical examples of where the science jury is out but the moral panic delivered a conviction long ago, not things “already discovered” to be bad.
John
Aspartame is definitely a terrible, terrible thing.
(I’m one of the small minority that has actual taste receptors for the stuff, instead of just banging it into the sugar receptors and calling it a day. It is not a sweetener. It is a nasty bitterener.)
Lukkai
I’ve read around a bit about aspartame after it came up in a documentary.
I found a lot of studies and treatises about it (over 150 actually). A bit more than two thirds of them placing it somewhere between problematic and outright dangerous. The rest labeling it as completely unproblematic.
What I found disturbing was all of the latter being financed directly or indirectly by aspartame producing or using industry.
Now I might have overlooked some studies or misread some of those I didn’t. But I for my part am stearing way clear of anything containing the stuff, just to be sure. Which I found to be remarkably easy, truth be told.
dcmeserve
Well we could start with the food additives that are literally derived from crude oil….
James
Crude oil is the most natural substance on earth.
John
It’s made of dinosaurs! Dina’s favorite! (rar)
James
To Crude Oil
the original Organic alternate fuel source to hunting whales other then sport.
dcmeserve
Here’s one example — and it’s rather appropriate to this strip, given Dorothy’s shirt: the yellow dyes used in Kraft Macaroni & Cheese.
Here is a link to a petition about it, for those interested.
dcmeserve
BTW, those dyes are only used in the U.S. version of the product; they’re banned everywhere else.
Ok, now I just need to find a way to pan Short Circuit 2, and I’ll be all set!
(Nice one!)
Yotomoe
I never said chemicals specifically were bad at all.
Steven
Dude you have no idea how frustrating it is for me when my mom tries to tell me something isn’t good for me because it’s “processed.” I continuously try to ask her HOW it is processed to make it unhealthy, what actually is INSIDE the food that makes it bad, but she can’t explain it any better than “it’s processed.” It’s not even that I necessarily disagree with her, but the fact that she doesn’t know HOW it’s bad for me or can’t even explain it drives me insane.
f.p.
So what happens when you tell her that cooking is a process?
90percentgeek
Processed food is a colloquialism which refers to commercially prepared convenience food. Rather than food which is in it’s natural state and which you then process by cooking. The reason your mother tells you it’s bad for you is because the processes most commonly used in preparing convenience food involve ladening it with saturated fats, salt and sugar. This makes your body go “oh wow, I must get more of this” while at the same time providing little nutritional value.
(cue the little ‘The More You Know’ jingle)
Pat
Considering that his mother doesn’t seem to know that, I doubt it’s her reason.
dcmeserve
It also most often involves obliterating any insoluble-fiber content, rendering the starches and sugars more likely to spike your blood sugar and push you towards diabetes.
This unfortunately also applies to Jamba Juice or any other brand of smoothie, even if it started out as 100% fresh fruit.
Rognik
Water is a compound. Chemicals are the subset of compounds that do not have a common name. A good example is Monosodium Glutamate.
f.p.
Is that sarcasm? I’ve heard so much nature woo and folk science that I can’t tell anymore.
Pat
Or dihydrogen monoxide!
Wait…
Andrusi
Another good example is carbon dioxide.
Lukkai
Hm… Former student in both chemistry and food technology here and I’ve never heard of such a classification.
HiEv
Oh don’t get me started about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide! That damn chemical is a killer of hundreds of people every year!
243 thoughts on “Dignity”
NCP19
And now we know how Dr. Manhattan ate his pizza.
Skull025
With sharp, pointy teeth?
Kernanator
No, that’s how the Killer Rabbit eats his everything.
Skull025
Have some dignity!
BONDIGNITY!
Khrene Cleaver
Joyce… Just… wow… Real Christians don’t eat pizza then..
HK-A6A7
Then I’m going to hell!
Ok guys.. Let’s sing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A47HVhzF6No
Luffy
If you enjoy going to Hell, then you may also enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeYP4Ldk8-4
Parismio
Or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtxp70tVHyM
Plasma Mongoose
O Lord, please don’t burn us,
Don’t grill us or toast your flock,
Don’t put us on a barbecue,
Or simmer us in stock,
Don’t braise us or bake or boil us,
Or stir-fry us in a wok
Yotomoe
All gods creatures…fresh off the grill.
Ancestral Hamster
Sounds yummy! Can I get a reservation?
Kai Gon
Somehow, this comment reminds me of that comic:
http://www.bugcomic.com/comics/beelzebanquet/
Neospector
Why I’m not a vegetarian #342
Appoh Jack
Yotomoe, did you ever watch Mr. Meaty?
Rognik
Hey at least she admits that she’s a little eccentric, and not all of it is Christianity. Maybe she’s not as well-adjusted as she thinks. Little kids are the ones who insist on eating each item separately. Pizza, however, is designed to be eating as a “melange”, though.
Erika Hammerschmidt
Obviously children are the closest to God, having most recently come down from heaven, and not yet having been corrupted by worldly things. That is why they naturally feel the desire to eat food the way God made it.
Its
Not eating, absorbing.
But how does Dina over there eat pizza?
GMan
It would appear to be in the manner of a velociraptor, or perhaps a ceratosaurus or deinonychus. Hard to tell from one panel.
James
soooo she’ll just stare at it while two other Dinas attack it from the side?
dcmeserve
Dino-style!
Rognik
Does that mean she has dino-might?
dcmeserve
Probably.
But then again she dino-might not.
Lukkai
This commentary thread is developing some truly strange dino-mics.
Dean
She wrestles it to the ground, bites chunks out of it and swallows them whole, like a feathered dinosaur with its prey.
davidbreslin101
Her elongated thumb-claw and long, gracile snout enable Dina to snatch pizzas from passing delivery bikes and swallow them whole.
ryan
nobody knows. she has never been observed actually eating anything.
ASmellyOgre
Well, I have to disagree with him on the whole salad thing, but dang is he right about Joyce.
ASmellyOgre
I mean, using a fork and knife is bad enough, but jeez.
dcmeserve
It might be a Little Girl thing. My daughter used to love disassembling her cheeseburger and eat the parts separately. When she was 4.
Rognik
My mother still insists on eating her foods one at a time, and she’s *mumbles* years old! She’ll freely admit it, too.
Josh
I eat my food one type at a time!
However! Pizza is a food! You don’t look at a pizza and think ‘Hmm that pile of bread, cheese and tomatoes looks tasty’.
Bunk
I bet Ethan got Sausage pizza as well.
Jenna
There seriously needs to be a “like” button on comments!
Plasma Mongoose
By that logic you shouldn’t eat cake, you should seperate the eggs, flour, sugar and milk first.
Yotomoe
By that logic you shouldn’t eat anything artificially produced because they use many different ingredients and chemicals. Not that eating artificial foods is a great idea in the first place.
David
No one’s ever explained to me what’s so bad about chemicals. Water is a chemical.
BlueRam
I think we need a tumblr post to explain this.
Plasma Mongoose
Both salmon and marijuana are bio-chemicals, therefore you should be allowed to smoke either if you want.
nitpicker
It’s not the chemicals you should worry about, it’s the “produced.” Everything man-made is unnatural and therefore dangerous.
Blue
Like clothing!
Ryorin
Clothing is the most dangerous of all…
Plasma Mongoose
Clothing is unnatural.
Marcos Dantas
That’s it! Now I’m reading this thread naked!
John
Unlike perfectly safe natural chemicals like, say, rattlesnake venom.
HK-A6A7
I heard it’s good if you have low pressure.
Yotomoe
Also if you’re Poison Ivy.
Deirdre Mundy
And nothing in nature is dangerous! That’s why I drink rattlesnake venom and arsenic cocktails before bed!
Roborat
I have had interesting conversations with the “man made chemicals are bad crowd”. I simply ask them to explain how naturally occurring sulfuric acid is better than sulfuric acid made in a factory. It usually shuts them up. These people cannot explain to me how two otherwise identical chemicals can be bad or good, depending on what the source of said chemical is.
NightRaven
Oooh, ooh, I have an answer to that one! Naturally occurring sulphur vs artificially created sulphur. I believe, based on looking back at the history of sciency stuff about atoms, building blocks, etc., that there is likely a lot of different constituent parts of the naturally occuring chemicals that we simply haven’t even been able to detect yet. Therefore, creating them artificially includes the risk of not being able to replicate all the juicy goodies that might be in the natural world.
A
H2Ohhhh snap!
Flux
Well chemicals aren’t bad per se, that would be like saying any blanket statement, like, I don’t know, “All people are horrible.” Some are, some aren’t.
Really, different chemicals have different effects on the human body, which is why water = good and cyanide = deadly. It really just comes down to the individual chemical involved, and personally I don’t begrudge people for choosing to be wary of something they can’t even read on a label, especially since additives like MSG and Aspartame have already been discovered to be less than good for you…
I do agree that “chemicals” is an unnecessary-overly-generalized buzzword however. The dialogue should be more sophisticated than that.
sd
Aspartame and MSG? Those sound like prototypical examples of where the science jury is out but the moral panic delivered a conviction long ago, not things “already discovered” to be bad.
John
Aspartame is definitely a terrible, terrible thing.
(I’m one of the small minority that has actual taste receptors for the stuff, instead of just banging it into the sugar receptors and calling it a day. It is not a sweetener. It is a nasty bitterener.)
Lukkai
I’ve read around a bit about aspartame after it came up in a documentary.
I found a lot of studies and treatises about it (over 150 actually). A bit more than two thirds of them placing it somewhere between problematic and outright dangerous. The rest labeling it as completely unproblematic.
What I found disturbing was all of the latter being financed directly or indirectly by aspartame producing or using industry.
Now I might have overlooked some studies or misread some of those I didn’t. But I for my part am stearing way clear of anything containing the stuff, just to be sure. Which I found to be remarkably easy, truth be told.
dcmeserve
Well we could start with the food additives that are literally derived from crude oil….
James
Crude oil is the most natural substance on earth.
John
It’s made of dinosaurs! Dina’s favorite! (rar)
James
To Crude Oil
the original Organic alternate fuel source to hunting whales other then sport.
dcmeserve
Here’s one example — and it’s rather appropriate to this strip, given Dorothy’s shirt: the yellow dyes used in Kraft Macaroni & Cheese.
Here is a link to a petition about it, for those interested.
dcmeserve
BTW, those dyes are only used in the U.S. version of the product; they’re banned everywhere else.
David
It doesn’t take a lot of knowledge to start a petition, just a lot of irrational fear.
dcmeserve
Ok, now I just need to find a way to pan Short Circuit 2, and I’ll be all set!
(Nice one!)
Yotomoe
I never said chemicals specifically were bad at all.
Steven
Dude you have no idea how frustrating it is for me when my mom tries to tell me something isn’t good for me because it’s “processed.” I continuously try to ask her HOW it is processed to make it unhealthy, what actually is INSIDE the food that makes it bad, but she can’t explain it any better than “it’s processed.” It’s not even that I necessarily disagree with her, but the fact that she doesn’t know HOW it’s bad for me or can’t even explain it drives me insane.
f.p.
So what happens when you tell her that cooking is a process?
90percentgeek
Processed food is a colloquialism which refers to commercially prepared convenience food. Rather than food which is in it’s natural state and which you then process by cooking. The reason your mother tells you it’s bad for you is because the processes most commonly used in preparing convenience food involve ladening it with saturated fats, salt and sugar. This makes your body go “oh wow, I must get more of this” while at the same time providing little nutritional value.
(cue the little ‘The More You Know’ jingle)
Pat
Considering that his mother doesn’t seem to know that, I doubt it’s her reason.
dcmeserve
It also most often involves obliterating any insoluble-fiber content, rendering the starches and sugars more likely to spike your blood sugar and push you towards diabetes.
This unfortunately also applies to Jamba Juice or any other brand of smoothie, even if it started out as 100% fresh fruit.
Rognik
Water is a compound. Chemicals are the subset of compounds that do not have a common name. A good example is Monosodium Glutamate.
f.p.
Is that sarcasm? I’ve heard so much nature woo and folk science that I can’t tell anymore.
Pat
Or dihydrogen monoxide!
Wait…
Andrusi
Another good example is carbon dioxide.
Lukkai
Hm… Former student in both chemistry and food technology here and I’ve never heard of such a classification.
HiEv
Oh don’t get me started about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide! That damn chemical is a killer of hundreds of people every year!
See DHMO.org for details.