“Maybe it’s cause I play some dope ukelele. Maybe it’s the hat. Maybe it’s my encyclopedic knowledge of Robo-Vac comics. Maybe it’s because I’m willing and eager to perform cunninlingus even while swinging three stories off the ground from a grappling hook.”
Though, I can see why his response to Sarah asking him to justify himself would be different from his response to Joe doing the same.
I feel like the cunnilingus one is a synecdoche for his ability to focus on his partner in distracting circumstances and his general willingness to go along with whatever fits his partner’s vibe.
She does call him Wonderbread. That’s basically wonderbread’s whole thing. Just being an otherwise unremarkable, inoffensive white bread(guy) that people kinda like and you go with when there’s no other interesting options available.
Decidedly Orthogonal
It’s a nickname, not a label of the defining characteristic she loves about him.
Thag Simmons
Especially since it definitely did not start out as complimentary
Masha
Struggling to understand how describing him as a plain white guy is complimentary but I guess in regards to the rest of the cast some might see it that way.
Sarah’s honest in her grumpy, asocial misanthropy, but sometimes it seems like she’s going out of her way to justify it.
Azhrei Vep
Look. If she really wanted to walk to class alone, she clearly had time to go before anyone else showed up. She’s totally being false right now. (I refuse to use Malaya’s second-favorite ‘F’ word)
Mark
Malaya is not a fan of anyone or anything, not even Malaya. Iguanas, perhaps.
We had a patreon strip about it. She told him “Congratulations and if you fuck this up, I will end you.”
David DeLaney
Mother Marcie Moment
–Dave, some day, a Patreon collection release, twice the price of a standard collection?
Li
I get that this is a play on Mother Bear but I don’t think Marcie’s energy towards Sal is any more motherly than Becky towards Joyce. “I was ALSO in love with that girl and my feelings are still a little complicated but bottom line she’s super important to me and always will be, you will NOT hurt her.”
BBCC
You can’t hurt someone’s best friend without incurring wrath.
Li
Agreed, but. Idk. It’s a pet peeve when folks put characters into the Family Zone when they definitely don’t belong there. Sal’s feelings for Marcie are probably v sisterly tho.
walky is the only person i’ve seen rly get under his skin and occasional frustration with joe but that’s not rly an offensive thing versus an aspect of their friendship
Whoops, meant to say Walky instead of the second Danny, though as Hue points out, so has Mike. Though, in both cases, it was usually not him getting mad at insults directed at him, specifically, which usually rolls off his back because he’s been getting that at home, too, basically his whole life, something even Amber (in Amazi-Girl form) found rather disturbing.
Honestly, I didn’t even notice the typo. I just assumed you were saying that Danny is one of the only people who regularly manages to offend Danny, which is arguably true! The poor guy does not exactly have great self-esteem.
DailyBrad
That makes total sense, yeah, he can be very critical of himself.
Though, if Walkyverse is any indication, his worry he’s going to lose his hair is at least unfounded.
I don’t think it’s an act. I think she’s just genuinely not happy unless she’s shitting on the choices, personality, and general existence of everyone around her.
She’s like if sandpaper was a person. A very very few people have learned her ways and can interact with her and mostly end up un-bloodied – to those people she can be good/valuable without being other than she is. To the rest, she’s just a pain to deal with.
I’m not sure it makes her happy, but it’s a way to engage socially. Sarah is really bad at making conversation that isn’t about criticizing someone. Remember her conflicted feelings trying to talk to Jacob? She only lit up when she was making fun of Joyce, but it made her (rightly) feel awful.
Sarah seems to be extremely insecure about simple sincere positivity. It doesn’t feel real or honest to her, and she can’t perform it like other people can, so she just makes herself sandpaper so she doesn’t have to feel artificial–or worse, like someone else’s sucker. Sarah literally introduces herself to people by telling them she’s not fun to be around. She’s constantly trying to manage expectations.
Shitting on other people doesn’t make Sarah feel happy. Negativity of all stripes makes Sarah feel safe, because if she’s never positive about herself or others, nobody can make her feel stupid for being vulnerable. She’s been burned in the past, and maybe she’s had performative vulnerability forced from her beyond her comfort levels (like in an enmeshed family).
What I’m getting at is that this level of guardedness probably comes more from fear than sadism. I relate to this aspect of Sarah a lot, even when, like today, it feels incredibly excessive.
Bash
This is an excellent observation. She doesn’t know how to engage socially unless she’s being critical of something. Here we even see her waiting for her friends, then acting like she wanted to walk alone.
anonymsly
It’s all well and good to say ‘she doesn’t know how’ for most people, but Sarah wants to be a LAWYER, aka a career path all but requiring social skills: persuasiveness at least, with shout outs to charm and likeability.
Soft skills are practical skills, and she has perfect opportunities to learn and practice in her current friend group comprised of people who already like her when she’s an unrelenting ass to them all. But she’d rather be an unrelenting jerk and triple down on it at every opportunity than go to an iota of effort for a non-academic skill.
Casi
You don’t necessarily need social skills or persuasiveness to be a lawyer unless you’re going to be a trial lawyer. If you’re doing tax law, or contract law, and never setting foot in the courtroom proper, you don’t need to be personable.
Mark
Weeel, you do need to at least be pleasant to prospective and actual clients or you won’t have any.
Mturtle7
…Look, in fairness to Sarah, she’s literally only 1.5 years into her undergraduate degree. She has time! And she’s made a LITTLE progress, in spite of the massive setback she suffered last year. She’s honest-to-goodness close friends with Joyce, at least, and is engaging in more and more social contact with Joyce’s other friends, these days.
Pretty much this whole comic is about people doing really stupid shit because they’re young and inexperienced, and gradually maturing, bit by bit, as a result. Sarah is no exception.
197 thoughts on “Dreadful”
Doctor_Who
Danny’s Assets:
1) Nice.
2) Honestly kinda rocks a scarf.
DailyBrad
3) Honestly, loyal as fuck and often very considerate, which pairs interestingly with his tendency to put his foot in his mouth sometimes.
Needfuldoer
4) Hat
Makkabee
5) SHREDS on ukelele
Mturtle7
6) Owns a Nintendo with Mario Cart on it
Oz
7) Is neither intimidated nor competitive towards Sal
AY
For all his faults, I like Danny, so I propose: Danny pinup with only the scarf
David M Willis
*scratches chin*
Finix
Scarf, hat, ukulale. It’s all he needs
Ferret
The ukelele placed to tastefully cover his junk.
Leadsynth
Would be an excellent magnet for my collection.
Kazuma Taichi
but also tastefully angled to suggest an erection barely concealed
Jerach
Honestly sounds pretty excellent.
Sirksome
How about only the hat. In fact…forget the Danny. The people demand hat pinups!
Dday
For a slipshine, just stuff the scarf into the hat.
Decidedly Orthogonal
bites lower lip mmmm Papi!
Mturtle7
Oh, wait, this is interesting: I was just skimming the “Danny” tag, and it turns out that a couple years ago there was LITERALLY a strip where Danny lists his potential assets as a boyfriend. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-12/01-sister-christian/pullin/
“Maybe it’s cause I play some dope ukelele. Maybe it’s the hat. Maybe it’s my encyclopedic knowledge of Robo-Vac comics. Maybe it’s because I’m willing and eager to perform cunninlingus even while swinging three stories off the ground from a grappling hook.”
Though, I can see why his response to Sarah asking him to justify himself would be different from his response to Joe doing the same.
Dave the Inverted
I feel like the cunnilingus one is a synecdoche for his ability to focus on his partner in distracting circumstances and his general willingness to go along with whatever fits his partner’s vibe.
Ana Chronistic
“and by nice I mean white”
Thag Simmons
I do not think that’s what Sal means
Masha
She does call him Wonderbread. That’s basically wonderbread’s whole thing. Just being an otherwise unremarkable, inoffensive white bread(guy) that people kinda like and you go with when there’s no other interesting options available.
Decidedly Orthogonal
It’s a nickname, not a label of the defining characteristic she loves about him.
Thag Simmons
Especially since it definitely did not start out as complimentary
Masha
Struggling to understand how describing him as a plain white guy is complimentary but I guess in regards to the rest of the cast some might see it that way.
Thag Simmons
I was not trying to imply that it was complimentary, the opposite in fact, I was saying it started as a derogatory nickname.
She’s started using it more affectionately, especially now that they’re dating, but it’s still more of a friendly insult than anything else.
Ana Chronistic
It’s the “Deku” of DoA!
HueSatLight
Probably a play on “Wonderin’ if you lost a bet”
Eric
It’s actually short for “Mayo on Wonderbread(tm)”
anon
well, that’s her parents definition of ‘nice’
Mr. Random
Not everything has to be dramatic. Sometimes… things are nice.
clif
Wait. No. Sal and Danny must be pissing someone off.
Let me think. Ethan maybe?
Enkrod
Malaya’s not a fan
Needfuldoer
Who would Malaya accuse of being fakey here? I’d have to guess Sarah.
Sal’s the usual target, but she genuinely likes Danny and Malaya recognizes that.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/somedork/
Is Danny even capable of being fakey if he tried?
Sarah’s honest in her grumpy, asocial misanthropy, but sometimes it seems like she’s going out of her way to justify it.
Azhrei Vep
Look. If she really wanted to walk to class alone, she clearly had time to go before anyone else showed up. She’s totally being false right now. (I refuse to use Malaya’s second-favorite ‘F’ word)
Mark
Malaya is not a fan of anyone or anything, not even Malaya. Iguanas, perhaps.
Daibhid C
Sarah, for some reason.
Daibhid C
Oops, that wasn’t even ninja’d. That was me not reading down two replies.
zee
Every other guy on campus who wants sal. Particularly of the dudebro variety
HueSatLight
Oh, Nice Things Are Nice (and Bad Things Are Bad)
ValdVin
Boffo reference from a great episode pair.
I don’t know if I’ll ever have cause to drop “Pull the trigger, you big baby!”
Dean
He’s pissing Sarah off, but I don’t think that counts.
Thag Simmons
not like it’s hard
David DeLaney
that’s what SHE said
–Dave, whilst stroking her bat
UrsulaDavina
Not a high bar to achieve apparently.
anon
at this point it’d be easier to count off what /doesn’t/ piss her off
Mark
Doesn’t matter; she should run with it. “Actually, Sarah, I’m dating a nice guy who makes me happy just to put your nose out of joint. Enjoy.”
Jo_cubstar
Poor hat guy
anon
at least it’s not a fedora
but yeah either for transition or finding a partner sometimes ‘just some nice guy’ is enough of a standard for ppl
Thag Simmons
How’s Marcie feel about him?
DailyBrad
Legit very good question, I’d love to know.
BBCC
We had a patreon strip about it. She told him “Congratulations and if you fuck this up, I will end you.”
David DeLaney
Mother Marcie Moment
–Dave, some day, a Patreon collection release, twice the price of a standard collection?
Li
I get that this is a play on Mother Bear but I don’t think Marcie’s energy towards Sal is any more motherly than Becky towards Joyce. “I was ALSO in love with that girl and my feelings are still a little complicated but bottom line she’s super important to me and always will be, you will NOT hurt her.”
BBCC
You can’t hurt someone’s best friend without incurring wrath.
Li
Agreed, but. Idk. It’s a pet peeve when folks put characters into the Family Zone when they definitely don’t belong there. Sal’s feelings for Marcie are probably v sisterly tho.
DailyBrad
Danny really is a difficult person to offend, outside of Danny.
anon
walky is the only person i’ve seen rly get under his skin and occasional frustration with joe but that’s not rly an offensive thing versus an aspect of their friendship
HueSatLight
Mike did. Then he died. so … best of luck, Walky.
anon
i mean the purpose of mikes chara was to get on everyone else’s skin lol
David DeLaney
and inside of Danny it’s too dark to meme
DailyBrad
Whoops, meant to say Walky instead of the second Danny, though as Hue points out, so has Mike. Though, in both cases, it was usually not him getting mad at insults directed at him, specifically, which usually rolls off his back because he’s been getting that at home, too, basically his whole life, something even Amber (in Amazi-Girl form) found rather disturbing.
Mturtle7
Honestly, I didn’t even notice the typo. I just assumed you were saying that Danny is one of the only people who regularly manages to offend Danny, which is arguably true! The poor guy does not exactly have great self-esteem.
DailyBrad
That makes total sense, yeah, he can be very critical of himself.
Though, if Walkyverse is any indication, his worry he’s going to lose his hair is at least unfounded.
Newlland(Henryvolt)
Sarah trying REALLY hard to put up an antisocial act. As if Danny isn’t one of the few people she doesn’t find as a complete nuisance.
anonymsly
I don’t think it’s an act. I think she’s just genuinely not happy unless she’s shitting on the choices, personality, and general existence of everyone around her.
She’s like if sandpaper was a person. A very very few people have learned her ways and can interact with her and mostly end up un-bloodied – to those people she can be good/valuable without being other than she is. To the rest, she’s just a pain to deal with.
Imogen
I’m not sure it makes her happy, but it’s a way to engage socially. Sarah is really bad at making conversation that isn’t about criticizing someone. Remember her conflicted feelings trying to talk to Jacob? She only lit up when she was making fun of Joyce, but it made her (rightly) feel awful.
Sarah seems to be extremely insecure about simple sincere positivity. It doesn’t feel real or honest to her, and she can’t perform it like other people can, so she just makes herself sandpaper so she doesn’t have to feel artificial–or worse, like someone else’s sucker. Sarah literally introduces herself to people by telling them she’s not fun to be around. She’s constantly trying to manage expectations.
Shitting on other people doesn’t make Sarah feel happy. Negativity of all stripes makes Sarah feel safe, because if she’s never positive about herself or others, nobody can make her feel stupid for being vulnerable. She’s been burned in the past, and maybe she’s had performative vulnerability forced from her beyond her comfort levels (like in an enmeshed family).
What I’m getting at is that this level of guardedness probably comes more from fear than sadism. I relate to this aspect of Sarah a lot, even when, like today, it feels incredibly excessive.
Bash
This is an excellent observation. She doesn’t know how to engage socially unless she’s being critical of something. Here we even see her waiting for her friends, then acting like she wanted to walk alone.
anonymsly
It’s all well and good to say ‘she doesn’t know how’ for most people, but Sarah wants to be a LAWYER, aka a career path all but requiring social skills: persuasiveness at least, with shout outs to charm and likeability.
Soft skills are practical skills, and she has perfect opportunities to learn and practice in her current friend group comprised of people who already like her when she’s an unrelenting ass to them all. But she’d rather be an unrelenting jerk and triple down on it at every opportunity than go to an iota of effort for a non-academic skill.
Casi
You don’t necessarily need social skills or persuasiveness to be a lawyer unless you’re going to be a trial lawyer. If you’re doing tax law, or contract law, and never setting foot in the courtroom proper, you don’t need to be personable.
Mark
Weeel, you do need to at least be pleasant to prospective and actual clients or you won’t have any.
Mturtle7
…Look, in fairness to Sarah, she’s literally only 1.5 years into her undergraduate degree. She has time! And she’s made a LITTLE progress, in spite of the massive setback she suffered last year. She’s honest-to-goodness close friends with Joyce, at least, and is engaging in more and more social contact with Joyce’s other friends, these days.
Pretty much this whole comic is about people doing really stupid shit because they’re young and inexperienced, and gradually maturing, bit by bit, as a result. Sarah is no exception.