Well then brace yourself and have some comfort food at the ready — I just can’t shake the feeling that before then, something TERRIBLE is gonna happen ?
Well, it’s been a semester, including a break. Most of the cast have settled into a ‘comfortable’ dynamic with each other which means they’re also less likely to play nice.
They do seem to generally be a bit meaner/obnoxious post time skip. I personally think Mike kind of filled that role and post death the rest of the cast kind of organically became more abrasive because they’re saying stuff usually reserved for him which actually fleshes them out a lot more as characters. Dorothy’s a good example of this.
Dorothy is the one I can’t work out the most, that shes not only joining in on the not telling Joyce thing (which I get because shes stuck between Becky and Joyce) but that she was smiling about it
I do like it that the story is not scared of shaking it up every now and then
Deathjavu
Dorothy’s just trying to build some resentment against herself so the Yale letter doesn’t hurt Joyce as much.
(nah, that seems more like a Jennifer game to play)
shrub
It was sort of the smile you give when the lie isn’t hurtful, like “no we’re not planning a surprise party for you” sort of smile
Yeah, it’s been one of the writing changes that I feel is pretty noticable- it feels very much like the “empire vs Jedi” debate from Clerks where this big change in the comic is the “dark” period where the innocence is lost and the cast is more prone to conflict and less happy with each other- or at the very least, the conflict has become a lot less big and abstract with suplexes and superheroes and now just kind of everyone snipes at each other a lot.
I get why it’s happening, I just kind of think it’s been spread throughout the entire cast to the point where I feel like there’s no reprieve from it no matter who we focus on.
I feel like it would be more striking if there was more contrast- like how for most of the first ten years, bllie/Ruth and Ethan/amber arcs would be angst and drama fests while Joyce would have storylines about parties or whiteboard dingdongs. It’s not that Joyce didn’t have drama or soap opera plotlines, but they’d get broken up more often.
I would definitely say that Jennifer, and Joyce have gotten nastier, pettier. It is clear that both of them are have a hard time dealing with trauma/emotional/psychological issues, and are just not seeking any help for it.
Doctor Who burnin’ that shit down like it’s Gallifrey on a Wednesday night, damn. Got some dang ol’ crosshairs in Jason, aye? Blondie’s gettin’ served like breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
No, weren’t you listening, she screamed “I’ve moved on!!” down the hallway after Jennifer walked by, and Jennifer basically blew up in response. They’re definitely both 100% over each other, completely, utterly, unmistakably.
This worried me Ruth was relapsing back to her old self but she seemed to catch it. Jason might actually be good for something. I never would’ve guessed.
We technically don’t know why Billie hates Ruth so much, it could actually be a reason that would make us all disgusted if we didn’t know just how broken Ruth is over all this
Not saying we can’t have empathy for Ruth, just that the reason may be bad enough that we’d only maintain empathy because we know just how messed up Ruth is right now
Part of me wonders if whatever Rachel’s issue is came out at Halloween. Because we don’t know how bad that one was, just that Rachel really hates Ruth over it
Needfuldoer
She didn’t like her all that much before Halloween, either.
They were roommates at the beginning of their Freshman year. Remember how they met?
I said back then that Jennifer wanted Ruth to get better and be happy and she wanted to keep drinking. She thought at one point that Ruth would be fine without her, so if they broke up she could keep drinking without hurting Ruth. That failed so she chose to keep Ruth and quit drinking.
And of course it makes perfect sense to be upset here – she was the toxic one, so she needed to push Ruth away for her own good. She can’t comprehend Ruth doing the same, because she was the one who was poison.
116 thoughts on “Embarrassing”
The Wellerman
Ooooooo looks like we’re gonna get some dom action from Ruth. ?
You know what this would go good with? Some Mother Bear’s Pizza.
(never actually had any but I hear it’s supposed to be the BEST ?)
Ana Chronistic
bully for him
Clif
At least he knows the answer is yes.
BBCC
Only if Ruth gives you one, dude.
You know that.
Kyrik Michalowski
At least he’s enjoying time with her, I think?
mrnoidea
He’s just along for the ride.
Deanatay
At least she asked first, that was nice.
Wait
shrub
Is it just me or has cast gotten generally meaner since Halloween? (waiting for that flashback)
The Wellerman
Well then brace yourself and have some comfort food at the ready — I just can’t shake the feeling that before then, something TERRIBLE is gonna happen ?
Mandatory Courage the Cowardly Dog meme:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb0JKZoUwEA
Taffy
Jim Carrey, Jim Carrey, Jim Carrey, and Jim Carrey. “And then the unthinkable happened!”
Doctor_Who
Makes sense to me.
Autumn/Halloween: Crisp but nice weather, horror movies, candy, Bobby “Boris” Pickett and Elvira.
Winter/Christmas: Snow, Hallmark movies, gift shopping, Mariah Carey and Michael Bublé.
The choice is clear.
Needfuldoer
Winter/Christmas: Snow, Hallmark movies, gift shopping,
Mariah Carey and Michael BubléKaren Carpenter and Johnny Mathis.FTFY
Nono
Well, it’s been a semester, including a break. Most of the cast have settled into a ‘comfortable’ dynamic with each other which means they’re also less likely to play nice.
Sirksome
They do seem to generally be a bit meaner/obnoxious post time skip. I personally think Mike kind of filled that role and post death the rest of the cast kind of organically became more abrasive because they’re saying stuff usually reserved for him which actually fleshes them out a lot more as characters. Dorothy’s a good example of this.
shrub
Dorothy is the one I can’t work out the most, that shes not only joining in on the not telling Joyce thing (which I get because shes stuck between Becky and Joyce) but that she was smiling about it
I do like it that the story is not scared of shaking it up every now and then
Deathjavu
Dorothy’s just trying to build some resentment against herself so the Yale letter doesn’t hurt Joyce as much.
(nah, that seems more like a Jennifer game to play)
shrub
It was sort of the smile you give when the lie isn’t hurtful, like “no we’re not planning a surprise party for you” sort of smile
I can’t wait for the fallout of it though
Justnobodyfqwl
Yeah, it’s been one of the writing changes that I feel is pretty noticable- it feels very much like the “empire vs Jedi” debate from Clerks where this big change in the comic is the “dark” period where the innocence is lost and the cast is more prone to conflict and less happy with each other- or at the very least, the conflict has become a lot less big and abstract with suplexes and superheroes and now just kind of everyone snipes at each other a lot.
I get why it’s happening, I just kind of think it’s been spread throughout the entire cast to the point where I feel like there’s no reprieve from it no matter who we focus on.
I feel like it would be more striking if there was more contrast- like how for most of the first ten years, bllie/Ruth and Ethan/amber arcs would be angst and drama fests while Joyce would have storylines about parties or whiteboard dingdongs. It’s not that Joyce didn’t have drama or soap opera plotlines, but they’d get broken up more often.
shrub
We can assume its building up to something (and it’ll probably be glorious) but the getting there will be interesting
Deathjavu
Not sure I would hold up whiteboard dingdongs as a relief from drama-fests, considering the whole thing was basically Joyce having a mental breakdown.
Azhrei Vep
I also wouldn’t pair up “Joyce” and “Parties” as an example of relief from drama either.
Azhrei Vep
It’s okay Justnobody, we’ve still got Sal and Danny being totally wholesome and kind to one another.
… FOR NOW.
Clif
Dum, duh, duh!!!
Pylgrim
Most college kids their age don’t get “friend is murdered” as a rite of passage.
Pylgrim
(Much as slasher films would have you think)
Stephen Nedland
I would definitely say that Jennifer, and Joyce have gotten nastier, pettier. It is clear that both of them are have a hard time dealing with trauma/emotional/psychological issues, and are just not seeking any help for it.
Thag Simmons
Alright, let’s make that “I have a boyfriend!” statement out of date!
Doctor_Who
How much street cred can you possibly get by bullying Jason?
Dude got shoved into his locker so much back in school that it’s the address on his driver’s license.
Andy
I don’t think it’s about street cred. I think it’s about resetting and getting back into the mindset she wants to be in.
Also, apologies for reporting you. Fat thumbs.
Doctor_Who
No worries, the gruel is very tasty, and I’ve started befriending the rats.
Clif
Goodbye gruel rodentiphile.
Thag Simmons
Yeah, Jason is both a sub and not someone she has actual authority over
Taffy
Doctor Who burnin’ that shit down like it’s Gallifrey on a Wednesday night, damn. Got some dang ol’ crosshairs in Jason, aye? Blondie’s gettin’ served like breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Doctor_Who
He beat me to the last silk bowtie at Saks. I will have my revenge.
Joe Moose
Oh my.
Kyrik Michalowski
I’m concerned with Ruth going to her “alpha wolf” mode and causing more issues.
Also, is it just me or is Ruth still in love with Billie/Jennifer?
Dunedon
I’m pretty sure it’s still mutual.
Deathjavu
No, weren’t you listening, she screamed “I’ve moved on!!” down the hallway after Jennifer walked by, and Jennifer basically blew up in response. They’re definitely both 100% over each other, completely, utterly, unmistakably.
Thag Simmons
This was not a clean break for either of them
Sirksome
This worried me Ruth was relapsing back to her old self but she seemed to catch it. Jason might actually be good for something. I never would’ve guessed.
shrub
The question is whether Ruth is a bully at heart and she has to change her nature or if its learned behaviour which she can unlearn
Either why it won’t be easy for her but the signs are good
Robbie
I think it’s a (toxic) coping mechanism for her. Aka a learned behavior. I think she can learn a new way to cope with difficult emotions.
Thag Simmons
I don’t think there’s really a difference there
DrunkenNordmann
She’s not the only one – Jennifer seems to be back to her “recapturing her old popular girl glory days” behavioural pattern as well.
StClair
Ruth, no.
Cmasta1992
Ruth YES
Vukodlak
Just take hour licks blonde British Naoto.
Nono
News flash: Ruth is a worse dom than Dina.
Zach
She’s got consent down. That’s not nothing.
Also recognizing what she wants and is after from others.
Yotomoe
Aftercare is key!
Deathjavu
Yeah…but in Ruth’s defense, almost everyone is worse than Dina on multiple axis.
BarerMender
Oops. I flagged by mistake. But worse than Dina? Isn’t everyone worse than Dina?
UrsulaDavina
This seems like a healthy realtionship dynamic.
Mturtle7
I mean honestly, I think it’s a HUGE improvement over her relationship dynamic with Billie. …Progress?
Lady Duffman
Slowly dawning realization that the froshs in her care aren’t intimidated by her?
Sirksome
I think she’s actually just trying not to abuse power. That was part of her pre time skip character arc.
Lady Duffman
Me, trying not to sound like the villain from Metalocalypse: We shall watch as these events unfold…
Thag Simmons
More that’s trying to make them less intimidated by her and taking out her anger on them is a good way to fuck that up
RassilonTDavros
See, Ruth’s learning. Bully people who aren’t under your authority, and you won’t have to worry about abuse of power!
LiterallyJustSomeGuy
Ruth, it’s okay to be upset with the way Billie is treating you. You don’t need to blame yourself for her bad behavior.
Icalasari
We technically don’t know why Billie hates Ruth so much, it could actually be a reason that would make us all disgusted if we didn’t know just how broken Ruth is over all this
Not saying we can’t have empathy for Ruth, just that the reason may be bad enough that we’d only maintain empathy because we know just how messed up Ruth is right now
Thag Simmons
Part of me wonders if whatever Rachel’s issue is came out at Halloween. Because we don’t know how bad that one was, just that Rachel really hates Ruth over it
Needfuldoer
She didn’t like her all that much before Halloween, either.
They were roommates at the beginning of their Freshman year. Remember how they met?
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-10/01-birthday-pursuit/resort/
Thag Simmons
What I mean is that whatever happened between Ruth and Rachel might have been the trigger once Jennifer learned about it, depending on how bad it was
Needfuldoer
Jennifer pushed Ruth away “for her own good” at least a couple times, so what the hell is she supposed to think?
“You stupid motherfucker, you were supposed to get better! You were supposed to leave me behind!”
– Jennifer Billingsworth, about 3 in-universe months ago
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/04-vote-for-robin/dying/
Needfuldoer
And if that wasn’t enough evidence:
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/04-vote-for-robin/stormed/
Needfuldoer
Seriously, the more I revisit that arc the more I think “what the hell did you WANT, Jennifer?!”
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/04-vote-for-robin/refusing/
thejeff
I said back then that Jennifer wanted Ruth to get better and be happy and she wanted to keep drinking. She thought at one point that Ruth would be fine without her, so if they broke up she could keep drinking without hurting Ruth. That failed so she chose to keep Ruth and quit drinking.
And of course it makes perfect sense to be upset here – she was the toxic one, so she needed to push Ruth away for her own good. She can’t comprehend Ruth doing the same, because she was the one who was poison.
newlland(Henryvolt)
Is there relationship not still Ruth holding Jason hostage and Jason coming down with Stockholm syndrome?
Reed
see ruth you can’t do it at your job that’s abuse of power! …if you do it in your relationship it’s just a kink.
Darkoneko