Wikipedia can be just as bad if you stumble onto a good vein of interesting content. (My weakness is articles about the Space Race… I still can’t believe they thought about sending an extended Apollo mission on a flyby of Venus, or one of the Gemini capsules actually flew twice and the Air Force wanted to have a manned reconnaissance space station in the early 60s.)
There needs to be a browser plugin that limits how many pages on those rabbit hole sites you can click on in a row. You can lose hours and open dozens of tabs on an “oh, that’s neat” trawl.
You know, a smidge better, just enough to make him feel like thinks are normal again, for a few fleeting moments before things suddenly get lots lots lots worse.
I’ve seen like one trailer and two clips, one where three dudes reveal that they all have the same sort of crystal and immediatley become bros, and the bit where the blond dude ends a conversation by saying bullshit, turning on his limp bizkit, walks like 50 feet and then turns the music off to continue the conversation
What if I told you that the instantly iconic scene of Jack Garland calling someone’s speech about the nature of hope bullshit and then playing Limp Bizkit on his smartphone, an act he is doing in-universe that the cinematography conveys he did the entire time the group walked out of the Chaos Shrine, was made even better in the final game?
The best way I can describe Final Fantasy Origin (other than that the combat is legitimately stellar) is that every ten minutes, something happens that makes me laugh my ass off, and it’s usually because Jack Garland has absolutely zero ability to parse through conversations with other human beings that aren’t about being pointed in the direction of Chaos.
Honestly, to me it seems like Joe is dealing with an internal struggle here. Most of the comments I’m seeing are about how Joe is still after the same thing he’s been after since the comic began, but he really hasn’t been interested in that at all.
Honestly Joe seems like he’s trying to keep up the “manly man who has all the sex” facade, but it’s just a facade now. With everything that’s happened to him, whether it’s stemming from the idea that his life failed a reverse Bechdel test, or any of the insanity that happened with Becky’s Dad, he doesn’t seem to actually care about the sex and sexuality aspect of everything now.
The Joe we knew at the start of this comic wouldn’t have ever tried to understand Dina, because the way her mind worked was just too far outside his personal experience, and it wouldn’t help him get some action. But now, we’ve got a Joe that seems to interact with her on her level, and to not only respond to her in the same way, but also seems to have a firm understanding of why she interacts that way, and he relates to it.
Joe is not a horndog anymore; he’s just afraid of what it means to stop being a horndog. It’s all the dude’s known.
I believe Joe is mistaken. They may be good “lab partners” but I have feeling that as lab partners, Dina does all the work and Becky’s job is just to sit there and look pretty. Though it is very nice that Dian takes the time to teach Becky science – the pinnacle of romantic gestures.
Right. Dina’s got a huge head start, but I do think Becky’s enthusiasm has been genuine. She really did seem energized by rejecting “Young Earth” schlock.
I know. I think Becky wants to help, but seems like she’s just behind the curve due to her upbringing. Also, she seems like the type to try and have some fun and be a bit of a goofball while working while Dina is more focused.
While Becky certainly has gaps in her understanding, she isn’t completely clueless, and more importantly she is equally ENGAGED, which counts for a lot in a classroom setting. If Becky were more passive, or if Dina were less willing to accomodate Becky’s background, it could easily wind up being Dina doing all the work, but they’re actually a fantastic complement to one another in that way.
He doesn’t have a decade-long facade to keep with Dina (and Becky). TBH I’m glad he’s slowly building some spaces to be more sincere, it’s good for his soul
I think if it were just Dina, he might actually be willing to be a bit more open than usual. She’s someone he’s only on casually positive terms with, doesn’t seem to have any sexual interest in, and crucially, has never been a close friend of Joyce’s with a habit of being very loud about things.
No expectations, no history to maintain, no need for more pretense than he’d show a mirror, but more likely to make a useful sounding board.
I wanna hug this dude so bad. He’s been having all sort of realizations and getting closer to Dina (and Becky) apart from Joyce but… I think this is the first time (that I remember) he blatantly says something like “you know what? I envy your monogamous relationship that’s so healthy it doesn’t even have to fall back on sex to have a good time and communicate”.
Which is one hell of a run-on sentence. Took 3 panels to process. He was only wanting to say something nice to two girls he platonically likes and look what happened!
PS: As far as he knows Dina and Becky aren’t fucking, but Dina did say how bad she’d wreck him in an hypothetical sex situation. Casual as weather in small talk! Which adds a bit of spice at this Envy Cauldron Of Swirling.
The further we get on this Joe having revelations about himself and his emotions the more I get trans vibes from him. Idk if that’s what we’ll get but it would be interesting
Ooooh so he envies the relationship but is head sees it as relationship ‘with a lab partner’ demonstrating that he specifically wants what they have with his lab partner (Joyce).
Join me next time on “Suzy explains things that you’ve probably already noticed”
When I was in college, we were assigned seats in our physics lab class, and the person sharing the bench with you was your lab partner for the whole semester.
Remember ten years ago back in first week when Joe thought he had life aaall figured out? Just never involve yourself in anything or anyone on any even slightly deep emotional level and you can have fun all the time and never get hurt or remember your parents yelling at each other. Such simple times, six months ago.
I wish there really was a world where you could say things like “Obligatory Greeting” and it’s accepted for what it is instead of getting the shit beat out of you.
I would like, to state, for the record, that when two of these characters were presented with Joyce acting outside of her status quo to her obvious distress, one of them told Joyce that everything about her was real even without her God and that included the things she was repeatedly made fun of for, and the other insisted that she had been lying constantly about her entire person.
(Joe being stupid and romantic about Joyce is my exact jam but I live in mortal terror of what disaster is going to transpire when the two of them are left to their own devices in this perpetual drama engine)
Hey, just a big THANK YOU. You do a dang good comic. Heh, even if this old fart gets it while being udderly lost the whole time. Mind, I’ve never been lost. I just didn’t know where I was.
Suspiciously Specific Affirmation
*runs away*
I’ve always wondered, is there a trope for using too many tropes?
Also i just noticed we both have Sal gravatars(even if yours is custom.)
Sal gravatars, unite!
Or untie as the case may be.
I heart it. I wish I could upvote. ♥♥♥
Kinda.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JustForFun/TropeOverdosed
Depends if you really define a meta “trope” like this as a trope like the SSD.
There’s also “TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life” if we’re talking in terms of reader/viewership.
Wikipedia can be just as bad if you stumble onto a good vein of interesting content. (My weakness is articles about the Space Race… I still can’t believe they thought about sending an extended Apollo mission on a flyby of Venus, or one of the Gemini capsules actually flew twice and the Air Force wanted to have a manned reconnaissance space station in the early 60s.)
There needs to be a browser plugin that limits how many pages on those rabbit hole sites you can click on in a row. You can lose hours and open dozens of tabs on an “oh, that’s neat” trawl.
He must’ve seen the Joe Signal in the sky.
(Joe Signal not shown because it is incredibly vulgar)
Can’t be that vulgar. Joyce drew it all over the dorm.
Joe signal is a pair of bouncing spotlights in the sky
This made me chuckle. Thank you.
Giggles.?
Oh Joe, this is going to get worse before it gets better, isn’t it?
depends if he can find a lab partner in time
It could get better first!
You know, a smidge better, just enough to make him feel like thinks are normal again, for a few fleeting moments before things suddenly get lots lots lots worse.
just in time for him to have emotionless and unfulfilling sex with Malaya, again!
So WONDERFUL!!! ?
How very fitting for a moonlit night like this one! ?
*plays “Fly Me to the Moon” on Hacked Muzak*
I was hoping it was this version of Fly Me to the Moon! Not that Sinatra isn’t great, but this version has much more emotion behind it
Ahh yes the closing theme from Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Aah yes, the battle theme from Bayonetta.
Ah yes, that song by Frank Sinatra, whose other classic, My Way, is featured in-universe in Final Fantasy Origin.
(that one game where the guy says CHAOS a lot, it’s actually really good)
I’ve seen like one trailer and two clips, one where three dudes reveal that they all have the same sort of crystal and immediatley become bros, and the bit where the blond dude ends a conversation by saying bullshit, turning on his limp bizkit, walks like 50 feet and then turns the music off to continue the conversation
It looks incredible
What if I told you that the instantly iconic scene of Jack Garland calling someone’s speech about the nature of hope bullshit and then playing Limp Bizkit on his smartphone, an act he is doing in-universe that the cinematography conveys he did the entire time the group walked out of the Chaos Shrine, was made even better in the final game?
The best way I can describe Final Fantasy Origin (other than that the combat is legitimately stellar) is that every ten minutes, something happens that makes me laugh my ass off, and it’s usually because Jack Garland has absolutely zero ability to parse through conversations with other human beings that aren’t about being pointed in the direction of Chaos.
He’s like if Dina was Doomguy. It fucking rules.
Oh no! Feelings!
Quick! To the escape hatch!
Ew, feelings, disgusting. Not on my watch.
Is Ball State Girl one of those anonymous rando babes, Joe?
[chanting] address the self loathing! address the self loathing!
“No one will ever know!”
They don’t suspect a thing.
Honestly, to me it seems like Joe is dealing with an internal struggle here. Most of the comments I’m seeing are about how Joe is still after the same thing he’s been after since the comic began, but he really hasn’t been interested in that at all.
Honestly Joe seems like he’s trying to keep up the “manly man who has all the sex” facade, but it’s just a facade now. With everything that’s happened to him, whether it’s stemming from the idea that his life failed a reverse Bechdel test, or any of the insanity that happened with Becky’s Dad, he doesn’t seem to actually care about the sex and sexuality aspect of everything now.
The Joe we knew at the start of this comic wouldn’t have ever tried to understand Dina, because the way her mind worked was just too far outside his personal experience, and it wouldn’t help him get some action. But now, we’ve got a Joe that seems to interact with her on her level, and to not only respond to her in the same way, but also seems to have a firm understanding of why she interacts that way, and he relates to it.
Joe is not a horndog anymore; he’s just afraid of what it means to stop being a horndog. It’s all the dude’s known.
And they were lab partners…
But how did Joe know that they had been doing Science?
They didn’t blind him with Science.
Oh my god they were lab partners!
They did science together!
The straights are not okay.
Its called puppy love but it hits like a Mac Truck.
What is it with this comic and trucks?
you ever been bitten by a puppy? still hurts
I have. Their teeth are like needles, but their body is soft and bendy. They are like furry worms with fangs and gangly legs.
I believe Joe is mistaken. They may be good “lab partners” but I have feeling that as lab partners, Dina does all the work and Becky’s job is just to sit there and look pretty. Though it is very nice that Dian takes the time to teach Becky science – the pinnacle of romantic gestures.
Surely Becky does her share of work as she learns about the science she loves, right?
Right. Dina’s got a huge head start, but I do think Becky’s enthusiasm has been genuine. She really did seem energized by rejecting “Young Earth” schlock.
I know. I think Becky wants to help, but seems like she’s just behind the curve due to her upbringing. Also, she seems like the type to try and have some fun and be a bit of a goofball while working while Dina is more focused.
I dunno, Becky seemed pretty enthusiastic to me.
While Becky certainly has gaps in her understanding, she isn’t completely clueless, and more importantly she is equally ENGAGED, which counts for a lot in a classroom setting. If Becky were more passive, or if Dina were less willing to accomodate Becky’s background, it could easily wind up being Dina doing all the work, but they’re actually a fantastic complement to one another in that way.
I wonder if Joe’s rilly going to fix Joyce with his penis, as advertised.
Joycestick not included and must be purchased separately.
Joe: “Fuck, I accidentally allowed myself to be emotionally vulnerable for a moment! With casual friends!”
I say that, but he might be MORE uncomfortable if it were, say, Danny or Dorothy, people he knows much more.
He doesn’t have a decade-long facade to keep with Dina (and Becky). TBH I’m glad he’s slowly building some spaces to be more sincere, it’s good for his soul
Except Becky’s far more likely to share any suspicions she has with Joyce than Dorothy is.
I think if it were just Dina, he might actually be willing to be a bit more open than usual. She’s someone he’s only on casually positive terms with, doesn’t seem to have any sexual interest in, and crucially, has never been a close friend of Joyce’s with a habit of being very loud about things.
No expectations, no history to maintain, no need for more pretense than he’d show a mirror, but more likely to make a useful sounding board.
Dina and Becky: Well, that was weird.
No, no.
Becky: “Well, that was weird.”
Dina: “I am pleased to have confirmation that that was weird.”
Ah yes, the Joe Secret Technique.
Something something Jojo reference something.
To be continued… ?
*plays “Roundabout” by Yes! on Joe’s Phone*
Oooh, thanks. That’s a great song that I haven’t thought about in a while now.
Joseph Joestarenthal
I wanna hug this dude so bad. He’s been having all sort of realizations and getting closer to Dina (and Becky) apart from Joyce but… I think this is the first time (that I remember) he blatantly says something like “you know what? I envy your monogamous relationship that’s so healthy it doesn’t even have to fall back on sex to have a good time and communicate”.
Which is one hell of a run-on sentence. Took 3 panels to process. He was only wanting to say something nice to two girls he platonically likes and look what happened!
PS: As far as he knows Dina and Becky aren’t fucking, but Dina did say how bad she’d wreck him in an hypothetical sex situation. Casual as weather in small talk! Which adds a bit of spice at this Envy Cauldron Of Swirling.
The further we get on this Joe having revelations about himself and his emotions the more I get trans vibes from him. Idk if that’s what we’ll get but it would be interesting
Or maybe a lot of anonymous science?
historians will say they were great lab partners
FUCKING AMAZING. SHIT ME. GO BE A GOOD LAB PARTNER JOE
I’m liking the lack of snark between Joe and Becky
so that’s his coping mechanism…
[insert Eddie Murphy-looking guy tapping the side of his head with a smile]
You can’t get emotionally hurt if you don’t care.
Envy is never a good thing. Joe is really in pain, unable to understand how to deal with his feelings. Poor Joe.
Ooooh so he envies the relationship but is head sees it as relationship ‘with a lab partner’ demonstrating that he specifically wants what they have with his lab partner (Joyce).
Join me next time on “Suzy explains things that you’ve probably already noticed”
For science! 😀
Thought the lab partners would finish after that evolution work. They will have to wrok together in the entire semester?
When I was in college, we were assigned seats in our physics lab class, and the person sharing the bench with you was your lab partner for the whole semester.
“Will they have to work”
Sorry, it’s 7AM, still sleepy…
Remember ten years ago back in first week when Joe thought he had life aaall figured out? Just never involve yourself in anything or anyone on any even slightly deep emotional level and you can have fun all the time and never get hurt or remember your parents yelling at each other. Such simple times, six months ago.
Yes, Joe. Growing up is hard. You’ll get there.
I wish there really was a world where you could say things like “Obligatory Greeting” and it’s accepted for what it is instead of getting the shit beat out of you.
? No chance, no way, he won’t say it, no no ?
“You can’t catch me romantic feelings!”
I would like, to state, for the record, that when two of these characters were presented with Joyce acting outside of her status quo to her obvious distress, one of them told Joyce that everything about her was real even without her God and that included the things she was repeatedly made fun of for, and the other insisted that she had been lying constantly about her entire person.
(Joe being stupid and romantic about Joyce is my exact jam but I live in mortal terror of what disaster is going to transpire when the two of them are left to their own devices in this perpetual drama engine)
YOU AND I ARE ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH JoJo for life
Dear Joe,
If you find yourself envying lesbians, you may want to start reading up on gender dysphoria. Just a… suggestion… from someone who’s been there.
I envy lesbians but it’s because they get to wear flannel out of season.
Wait Flannel goes out of season?
Pretty sure hes envying the the relationship the two of them have
Ohhh he got it bad
Which it? Because, the “feeling like a jerk for wanting something” is kind of winning with this stupid old fart. (can’t prove I ain’t one!)
“it” is tons of love for joyce
I want them to get together and be happy but I know things don’t work like that in this comic.
That’s why we need to destroy Becky and Dina.
They’re hoarding all the Good Relationship Juice.
are not. (pouts)
So this would be the Duke of Thingley’s cousin we just saw scooting away, yes?
Better than Sir Robin. Yes?
Hey, just a big THANK YOU. You do a dang good comic. Heh, even if this old fart gets it while being udderly lost the whole time. Mind, I’ve never been lost. I just didn’t know where I was.
new Sayid character art
God fuck yes