She can have the tie, though. Damn strangulation devices have always been one of those sartorial inventions that I’ve never understood the reasoning behind.
Also they were convenient portable napkins until people started getting finicky about them. See also: Tablecloths.
Durandal_1707
So, I got curious whether this is true and looked it up. And apparently they were worn by Croatian mercenaries in the 17th century who were in the service of France. The word “cravat”, according to Wikipedia anyway, comes from a portmanteau of “Croates”, the French word for “Croatians”, and “Hrvati”, the Croatian word for Croatian. So that’s interesting. I did not know that Croatia was like Germany, Hungary, Finland, and Japan in having a name in English that sounds nothing like its actual name, for whatever reason.
Marsh Maryrose
The word for this type of country name is “exonym.”
Deutschland=Germany is the most well-known example for Americans.
Here’s a hypothetical exonym Itinerary I have made up:
Suomi
Eesti
Magyarorszag
Hrvatska
Crna Gora
Shqiperia
Ellas
Misr
Sak’art’velo
Hayastan
Best part? You can do Magyarorszag to Shqiperia as a road trip (with one additional country — or a car ferry — in the middle),
Marsh Maryrose
Magyarorszag to Ellas as a road trip. I should go to bed now, before any more brain cells disintegrate. (Although perhaps I just subconsciously wanted to type “Shqiperia” one more time.)
Durandal_1707
“Eesti” isn’t that far from “Estonia”—the root seems the same, with the English version mostly having added a few syllables. The rest, though, yeah. The sad thing is that the real name usually sounds way better; “Suomi” sounds better than “Finland”, “Magyar” sounds *way* cooler than “Hungarian”, and “Hrvati” sounds so much better than “Croat” that it’s just silly. Oh well.
What I find particularly interesting about Deutschland/Germany is the sheer number of names it has. If you’re Deutsch, you’re:
German in English
Alemán in Spanish
Tedesco in Italian
Nemetskiy in Russian <- this one basically means "people that don't talk like us"
Tysk in Denmark
Saksa in… one of the Baltic countries (don't remember which exactly atm)
Probably others that I'm forgetting about!
Remmington Steele
You piqued my curiosity about Germany as well.
The answer seems to be that Germany as a state didn’t come into existence until 1871. Before that, they were a group of loosely aligned mid European peoples..
A Finn here butting in… Saksa means Germany in Finnish (and the word for German/Deutsch is saksa/saksankieli (when talking about the language) or saksalainen (when talking about a person who is German)).
Which isn’t to say though that it couldn’t be used in Baltic countries as well. Especially in Estonia, Finnish has quite a lot of similarities with Estonian language. But I can’t say for sure.
Makkabee
Several of the European names for German derive from Germanic tribes who encountered the Romans, like the Alemani and the Saxons (the Gaelic “Sassenach” for “Englishman” does, too).
Hrvati –> Croatia also makes sense because of the way certain sounds are related in Indo-European languages. Squeeze your tongue to the roof of your mouth just a bit when making the “Hr” sound and it becomes “Kr.” There’s also a relationship between v and w. So Hrvati –> Cravati (like cravat) –> Crawati –> Croatia. Oh, and take it in a different direction and Hrvati –> Srvati –> Srbati (or more likely started as b and the v shift came later in the north) –> Serbia. Hrbati –> Hrbatni –> Botni –> Bosnia. All a single group 1000 to 1500 years ago. Less than that for the Bosnian-Croatian split, actually, as that was driven by the area being split by competing empires that pushed competing religions.
Egg
Hm, the phonetic link between “Hrvatska” and “Croatia” is much more apparent than many of the other cases that Marsh Maryrose listed.
Needfuldoer
Huh. I always thought they were just for hiding shirt buttons. (Or maybe as a marketing gimmick by the Father’s Day racket.)
Ties do not strangulate. Off-the-rack dress shirts in half-inch increments frequently do.
If you have the money to have tailored shirts, you can afford to wear shirts that have a neck size that matches your actual neck size, and the tie is just an accessory.
Otherwise, you have to choose between a shirt a with neck size that is slightly smaller than your neck size, or a shirt with a neck size that is slightly larger than your neck size…and the tie is still just an accessory.
Culturally and visually, gaps are noticed and derogated, so most men, when they wear dress shirts, wear shirts with a too-small neck size, and they hate it. And every woman who is reading this is making that little forefinger-and-thumb gesture that says, “the world’s tiniest violin is playing.”
David M Willis
“ties do not strangulate”
Tell that to R.K. Maroon!
Marsh Maryrose
Okay, okay, any appropriately-shaped piece of fabric can be the proximate cause of strangulation. Fictionally, there’s Dollar Bill and his cape; non-fictionally, there’s Isidora Duncan and her scarf.
But my point remains: most men who experience discomfort from the wearing of ties are actually experiencing discomfort from the wearing of shirts with neck sizes that are too small.
…That said, I can’t be the only person who saw that video of the nun using a chainsaw to clear hurricane damage, and thought, “Operating a chainsaw with loose clothing? Please…just don’t.”
hof1991
Yes! Bad chain saw technique. Fashion over-ruling safety. Kept waiting for a charming story to turn into a bloodbath, because, well… its 2017.
UniqueSnowflake2
Dollar Bill wasn’t strangled by his cape; he got it caught in a (revolving?) door, and was shot by bank robbers.
I also don’t think that any of Edna Mode’s “No capes!” examples were strangled. Instead, their capes pulled them into deadly situations. Valuable lesson.
Deanatay
The biggest problem with ties isn’t that they inherently strangle people. The problem is that we wear them wrong, and think that we have to.
Kryss LaBryn
I’m pretty positive that the reason Trump’s presidential ties are so weirdly long is that they’ve given him ties long enough to do the fancier knots (found out when doing a fancier one for my husband for a Mess dinner that you need like half a foot more than for the basic one I know how to do, so I left it far too short on my first attempt), but he’s insisting that he tie them himself–and then does a very basic knot.
Stuff like this was why it was always hilarious in like 16th and 17th century plays when the servant dresses up to play their social superiors; there’s differences in donning and moving in the upper-class clothes (especially when hoops and/or heels are involved) that the servants would not necessarily be able to pull off (definitely not if it’s a comedy), and so things like the tie ending up ludicrously long from not knowing how to tie that kind properly would result, with hilarity ensuing.
Roborat
Think that sentence was too long. I would go with: The problem is we wear them.
I love every single panel of bantering here. It’s funny, it’s endearing, and they do a good job probing sensitive topics.
Becky and Joyce gently tease each other for their… less than godly goals with the church visit (Joyce attracting cute boys, even if Becky don’t know the intricacies; Becky telegraphing her identity).
Joyce bites back against the constant belittlement against her fashion sense, which gives Becky a chance to air their mutual embarrassment/guilt and turn it into a joke (“Wacky Becky got the wrong idea due to Joyce’s fashion sense. Wasn’t it hilarious? Ahahahaha. Water under the bridge.”)
Becky and Jacob get some banter and bonding in (and it’s no mistake that basically the first thing Jacob says is an affirmation of Becky’s sexuality. He’s a nice sort). I’m about 75% certain Becky realizes just WHICH boy Joyce is dressing up for, and does the wacky!Becky routine to get some pressure off Joyce. She is a WINGMAN after all.
It was a puppy. All puppies are bad.
It’s not really their fault, but they piss on everything they don’t chew to bits.
Adorable, perhaps, but not good.
I think if he has a flaw so far it’s how characterless he is, he’s a perfectly nice guy and behaves well in every way but if I’m being honest I can’t see myself talking to him for more than a couple minutes, just think about how he expected Sarah come up with topics when he was tired of Joyce bashing
This seems most likely, since characters seem to, for the most part, keep the same flaws they had in previous continuity. We just haven’t really seen any contexts in DoA where Jacob’s previous-continuity character flaw could rear its head.
…Yet. This is one of Willis’ comics, which means Jacob’s emotional distress is all but assured, since he seems to be getting more panel-time of late.
They’ve met briefly a few times. Joyce’s party, the pizza place, when Becky and Joyce ran into Sarah after their class.
You can see the strips here: http://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/becky+jacob/
I had the same reaction when I learnt that. It’s a gold mine when you tries to remember a specific strip
thejeff
Now I just want to be able to subtract people. “jacob+joyce-becky” to get all the jacob and joyce appearances without Becky. Trivial example, since there aren’t a lot to start with, but there are times when the initial search gets you pages and there aren’t other good ways to narrow it down.
That could be surprisingly tricky to do depending on how tags work behind the hood. Manipulating datasets of variable/arbitrary size (such as tags) often leads to bizarre errors and intricacies in the world of computer programming, since computers need all of that data to basically stay right next to itself, but they can’t move it around freely either since the data isn’t intrinsically connected to its meaning, so there are a whole bunch of strictures in place in any high-level programming environment, and in any operating system, to prevent or mitigate overmuch access to the way data is stored via interfaces accessible to people further down the line, which often means efficient handling of this data requires more low-level programming, which is often counterintuitive and finnicky. Anyone who has used the word “pointer” more than three times knows what I’m talking about.
Disclaimer: I have used the word “pointer” exactly twice.
Inahc
I have to admit, there’s a part of me that misses the Good Old Days of insane pointer math. 🙂
thejeff
Ah, the Good Old Days.
Or, as those of us in embedded systems like to call them: Tuesday.
Inahc
Er… What.. do people just not do raw SQL queries any more? Because my SQL is pretty rusty but iirc it should just be a matter of tacking on an extra condition with a NOT in it.
I’m not sure where the data storage format even enters into it. If you can search for entries where the tag is foo, you can also search for entries where the tag is not foo.
Of course, persuading whoever wrote the tagging system to implement such a feature is a whole other matter.
I hope autocorrect didn’t mangle that too badly, I *think* I caught all the errors.
Inahc
” If you can search for entries where the tag is foo, you can also search for entries where the tag is not foo.”
… unless you’re using an interface that helpfully prevents that, which is probably what the commodore was talking about.
uugggggggh I *hate* all of what little I’ve seen of such interfaces. they always sound like such a good idea and then the implementation turns out hideous.
I’m still not sure what data structures have to do with this particular brand of hideousness, though.
Data structures aren’t directly relevant, they’re just the indirect reason why these kinds of systems aren’t always as robust as they intuitively seem like they should be.
It’s just that due do the fact that the underlying data needs to be moved around sometimes in order to remain readable by the machine, doing anything that changes the size of a list requires specifically being supported, so every individual function one might include is that much extra work a programmer might not be willing to put into a lightweight system for a very low end user utility (most users of the site will never use the tag system, and only a few of them will experiment with tag arithmetic).
Inahc
moved around? I’m thinking of a query that you run, use, and discard. not writing records to disk. or resizing anything. what exactly do you mean by “moved around sometimes”? why are you talking about resizing lists?
216 thoughts on “Fancy-pantsy”
Doctor_Who
Becky rocks the vest too. Very dapper.
Bagge
Very true.
LookingIn
Becky could make a paper bag into high fashion if she had the chance
zoelogical
she will rock it like raquel welch rocked a potato sack back in the day
Durandal_1707
She can have the tie, though. Damn strangulation devices have always been one of those sartorial inventions that I’ve never understood the reasoning behind.
Opus the Poet
They were a good luck charm for a French battalion and some people though they looked good. So we are stuck with them.
Commodore Counterintuitive
Also they were convenient portable napkins until people started getting finicky about them. See also: Tablecloths.
Durandal_1707
So, I got curious whether this is true and looked it up. And apparently they were worn by Croatian mercenaries in the 17th century who were in the service of France. The word “cravat”, according to Wikipedia anyway, comes from a portmanteau of “Croates”, the French word for “Croatians”, and “Hrvati”, the Croatian word for Croatian. So that’s interesting. I did not know that Croatia was like Germany, Hungary, Finland, and Japan in having a name in English that sounds nothing like its actual name, for whatever reason.
Marsh Maryrose
The word for this type of country name is “exonym.”
Deutschland=Germany is the most well-known example for Americans.
Here’s a hypothetical exonym Itinerary I have made up:
Suomi
Eesti
Magyarorszag
Hrvatska
Crna Gora
Shqiperia
Ellas
Misr
Sak’art’velo
Hayastan
Best part? You can do Magyarorszag to Shqiperia as a road trip (with one additional country — or a car ferry — in the middle),
Marsh Maryrose
Magyarorszag to Ellas as a road trip. I should go to bed now, before any more brain cells disintegrate. (Although perhaps I just subconsciously wanted to type “Shqiperia” one more time.)
Durandal_1707
“Eesti” isn’t that far from “Estonia”—the root seems the same, with the English version mostly having added a few syllables. The rest, though, yeah. The sad thing is that the real name usually sounds way better; “Suomi” sounds better than “Finland”, “Magyar” sounds *way* cooler than “Hungarian”, and “Hrvati” sounds so much better than “Croat” that it’s just silly. Oh well.
What I find particularly interesting about Deutschland/Germany is the sheer number of names it has. If you’re Deutsch, you’re:
German in English
Alemán in Spanish
Tedesco in Italian
Nemetskiy in Russian <- this one basically means "people that don't talk like us"
Tysk in Denmark
Saksa in… one of the Baltic countries (don't remember which exactly atm)
Probably others that I'm forgetting about!
Remmington Steele
You piqued my curiosity about Germany as well.
The answer seems to be that Germany as a state didn’t come into existence until 1871. Before that, they were a group of loosely aligned mid European peoples..
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Deutschland-called-Germany-in-English-What-do-Germans-call-themselves
Kannen
A Finn here butting in… Saksa means Germany in Finnish (and the word for German/Deutsch is saksa/saksankieli (when talking about the language) or saksalainen (when talking about a person who is German)).
Which isn’t to say though that it couldn’t be used in Baltic countries as well. Especially in Estonia, Finnish has quite a lot of similarities with Estonian language. But I can’t say for sure.
Makkabee
Several of the European names for German derive from Germanic tribes who encountered the Romans, like the Alemani and the Saxons (the Gaelic “Sassenach” for “Englishman” does, too).
Hrvati –> Croatia also makes sense because of the way certain sounds are related in Indo-European languages. Squeeze your tongue to the roof of your mouth just a bit when making the “Hr” sound and it becomes “Kr.” There’s also a relationship between v and w. So Hrvati –> Cravati (like cravat) –> Crawati –> Croatia. Oh, and take it in a different direction and Hrvati –> Srvati –> Srbati (or more likely started as b and the v shift came later in the north) –> Serbia. Hrbati –> Hrbatni –> Botni –> Bosnia. All a single group 1000 to 1500 years ago. Less than that for the Bosnian-Croatian split, actually, as that was driven by the area being split by competing empires that pushed competing religions.
Egg
Hm, the phonetic link between “Hrvatska” and “Croatia” is much more apparent than many of the other cases that Marsh Maryrose listed.
Needfuldoer
Huh. I always thought they were just for hiding shirt buttons. (Or maybe as a marketing gimmick by the Father’s Day racket.)
Marsh Maryrose
Ties do not strangulate. Off-the-rack dress shirts in half-inch increments frequently do.
If you have the money to have tailored shirts, you can afford to wear shirts that have a neck size that matches your actual neck size, and the tie is just an accessory.
Otherwise, you have to choose between a shirt a with neck size that is slightly smaller than your neck size, or a shirt with a neck size that is slightly larger than your neck size…and the tie is still just an accessory.
Culturally and visually, gaps are noticed and derogated, so most men, when they wear dress shirts, wear shirts with a too-small neck size, and they hate it. And every woman who is reading this is making that little forefinger-and-thumb gesture that says, “the world’s tiniest violin is playing.”
David M Willis
“ties do not strangulate”
Tell that to R.K. Maroon!
Marsh Maryrose
Okay, okay, any appropriately-shaped piece of fabric can be the proximate cause of strangulation. Fictionally, there’s Dollar Bill and his cape; non-fictionally, there’s Isidora Duncan and her scarf.
But my point remains: most men who experience discomfort from the wearing of ties are actually experiencing discomfort from the wearing of shirts with neck sizes that are too small.
…That said, I can’t be the only person who saw that video of the nun using a chainsaw to clear hurricane damage, and thought, “Operating a chainsaw with loose clothing? Please…just don’t.”
hof1991
Yes! Bad chain saw technique. Fashion over-ruling safety. Kept waiting for a charming story to turn into a bloodbath, because, well… its 2017.
UniqueSnowflake2
Dollar Bill wasn’t strangled by his cape; he got it caught in a (revolving?) door, and was shot by bank robbers.
I also don’t think that any of Edna Mode’s “No capes!” examples were strangled. Instead, their capes pulled them into deadly situations. Valuable lesson.
Deanatay
The biggest problem with ties isn’t that they inherently strangle people. The problem is that we wear them wrong, and think that we have to.
Kryss LaBryn
I’m pretty positive that the reason Trump’s presidential ties are so weirdly long is that they’ve given him ties long enough to do the fancier knots (found out when doing a fancier one for my husband for a Mess dinner that you need like half a foot more than for the basic one I know how to do, so I left it far too short on my first attempt), but he’s insisting that he tie them himself–and then does a very basic knot.
Stuff like this was why it was always hilarious in like 16th and 17th century plays when the servant dresses up to play their social superiors; there’s differences in donning and moving in the upper-class clothes (especially when hoops and/or heels are involved) that the servants would not necessarily be able to pull off (definitely not if it’s a comedy), and so things like the tie ending up ludicrously long from not knowing how to tie that kind properly would result, with hilarity ensuing.
Roborat
Think that sentence was too long. I would go with: The problem is we wear them.
Ana Chronistic
“other than the whole ‘you’d look like a baby wearing her dad’s clothes’ part if you rocked mine, but yeah”
Deanatay
Yeah, but DROWNING IN JACOB
Falling Star
no such thing
Delicious Taffy
Will be when I liquefy his tall ass.
Goshii
His ass doesn’t seem to be particularly taller than average though
Adj
Oh Jacob, you say just the right things!
Jamie
I came here to say that!
PigeonPollyx
And we have now determined Jacob and Becky is a very good dynamic
Bagge
I love every single panel of bantering here. It’s funny, it’s endearing, and they do a good job probing sensitive topics.
Becky and Joyce gently tease each other for their… less than godly goals with the church visit (Joyce attracting cute boys, even if Becky don’t know the intricacies; Becky telegraphing her identity).
Joyce bites back against the constant belittlement against her fashion sense, which gives Becky a chance to air their mutual embarrassment/guilt and turn it into a joke (“Wacky Becky got the wrong idea due to Joyce’s fashion sense. Wasn’t it hilarious? Ahahahaha. Water under the bridge.”)
Becky and Jacob get some banter and bonding in (and it’s no mistake that basically the first thing Jacob says is an affirmation of Becky’s sexuality. He’s a nice sort). I’m about 75% certain Becky realizes just WHICH boy Joyce is dressing up for, and does the wacky!Becky routine to get some pressure off Joyce. She is a WINGMAN after all.
Badeyes
Jacob is the most gentlemanly guy at the school apparently.
Doctor_Who
I’m still waiting for him to reveal some massive character flaw.
Maybe he spends an hour talking about how funny The Big Bang Theory is, or puts his toilet paper on the roll wrong. There has to be something.
chris2315
I’m sorry to be the one to tell you this, but… he once told a puppy he wasn’t a good boy.
Emperor Norton II
To be fair, that puppy was indeed a Bad Puppy.
MatthewTheLucky
Yeah, I don’t know what that puppy’s deal was.
thejeff
It was a puppy. All puppies are bad.
It’s not really their fault, but they piss on everything they don’t chew to bits.
Adorable, perhaps, but not good.
Nobody
I think if he has a flaw so far it’s how characterless he is, he’s a perfectly nice guy and behaves well in every way but if I’m being honest I can’t see myself talking to him for more than a couple minutes, just think about how he expected Sarah come up with topics when he was tired of Joyce bashing
wwwhhattt
Super addictive personality, like in Shortpacked?
ithehellamhenry
This seems most likely, since characters seem to, for the most part, keep the same flaws they had in previous continuity. We just haven’t really seen any contexts in DoA where Jacob’s previous-continuity character flaw could rear its head.
…Yet. This is one of Willis’ comics, which means Jacob’s emotional distress is all but assured, since he seems to be getting more panel-time of late.
fogel
So, how are he and Joe friends (buddies; bros; compadres)?
Spencer
There was that one time he called Joyce ‘certifiable’ due to her religious beliefs.
foamy
Ladies in suits and ties are gorgeous and the world needs more of them.
Kamino Neko
Honestly, I think suits look better on ladies than on most guys.
Nobody
Seconded
Inahc
Especially Pearl. 🙂
I must admit
(You must admit)
It’s a perfect fit!
(You look great in it!)
Skater Girl (@syleegrrl)
To be fair, everything looks better on ladies. But that’s just my own person bias talking.
Gaia
I prefer them without anything on, but to each their own i guess. 😛
Joe Covenant
“Who’s to know,
what she’ll show of herself,
in what measure?
When what she reveals or what she conceals is the KEY…
to…
our pleasure…”
Deanatay
Nudity looks better on women, too.
Basically, just having boobs ups Charisma by, like, 4.
Kryss LaBryn
Well-fitting suits and ties are just generally fantastic on pretty much everyone. It’s one of my many favourite things about Steampunk. <3
Rukdug
For me it’s the hats, longcoats, and steampunk gauntlets. Goddamn but the Victorians knew how to make a fine longcoat and a fine hat.
Kryss LaBryn
OMG right?
Nono
How does Jacob know Becky again? Not sure if I forgot something somewhere.
Rectilinear Propagation
Becky works at the pizza place now. I’m pretty sure in the strips where Joyce & Jacob end up talking, Becky is their server.
Dana
And even if he did get dragged away from the dorm party almost instantly, she met him when she did the invitations.
Kryss LaBryn
HAHA I understand your username! 😀 Got my own ham license a while back.
Completely OT but I just wanted to say.
Yumi
They’ve met briefly a few times. Joyce’s party, the pizza place, when Becky and Joyce ran into Sarah after their class.
You can see the strips here:
http://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/becky+jacob/
Jed!
Wow, never knew you could search multiple tags here. So many possibilities have opened up to me…
Bagge
I had the same reaction when I learnt that. It’s a gold mine when you tries to remember a specific strip
thejeff
Now I just want to be able to subtract people. “jacob+joyce-becky” to get all the jacob and joyce appearances without Becky. Trivial example, since there aren’t a lot to start with, but there are times when the initial search gets you pages and there aren’t other good ways to narrow it down.
Bagge
…remove Becky?
Strange, I understan the words, but they don’t make any sense in combination 🙂
To be less silly – agreed – that would be very useful.
Commodore Counterintuitive
That could be surprisingly tricky to do depending on how tags work behind the hood. Manipulating datasets of variable/arbitrary size (such as tags) often leads to bizarre errors and intricacies in the world of computer programming, since computers need all of that data to basically stay right next to itself, but they can’t move it around freely either since the data isn’t intrinsically connected to its meaning, so there are a whole bunch of strictures in place in any high-level programming environment, and in any operating system, to prevent or mitigate overmuch access to the way data is stored via interfaces accessible to people further down the line, which often means efficient handling of this data requires more low-level programming, which is often counterintuitive and finnicky. Anyone who has used the word “pointer” more than three times knows what I’m talking about.
Commodore Counterintuitive
Disclaimer: I have used the word “pointer” exactly twice.
Inahc
I have to admit, there’s a part of me that misses the Good Old Days of insane pointer math. 🙂
thejeff
Ah, the Good Old Days.
Or, as those of us in embedded systems like to call them: Tuesday.
Inahc
Er… What.. do people just not do raw SQL queries any more? Because my SQL is pretty rusty but iirc it should just be a matter of tacking on an extra condition with a NOT in it.
I’m not sure where the data storage format even enters into it. If you can search for entries where the tag is foo, you can also search for entries where the tag is not foo.
Of course, persuading whoever wrote the tagging system to implement such a feature is a whole other matter.
I hope autocorrect didn’t mangle that too badly, I *think* I caught all the errors.
Inahc
” If you can search for entries where the tag is foo, you can also search for entries where the tag is not foo.”
… unless you’re using an interface that helpfully prevents that, which is probably what the commodore was talking about.
uugggggggh I *hate* all of what little I’ve seen of such interfaces. they always sound like such a good idea and then the implementation turns out hideous.
I’m still not sure what data structures have to do with this particular brand of hideousness, though.
Commodore Counterintuitive
Data structures aren’t directly relevant, they’re just the indirect reason why these kinds of systems aren’t always as robust as they intuitively seem like they should be.
Commodore Counterintuitive
It’s just that due do the fact that the underlying data needs to be moved around sometimes in order to remain readable by the machine, doing anything that changes the size of a list requires specifically being supported, so every individual function one might include is that much extra work a programmer might not be willing to put into a lightweight system for a very low end user utility (most users of the site will never use the tag system, and only a few of them will experiment with tag arithmetic).
Inahc
moved around? I’m thinking of a query that you run, use, and discard. not writing records to disk. or resizing anything. what exactly do you mean by “moved around sometimes”? why are you talking about resizing lists?