With the impulse control and consequence consideration Joyce has displayed thus far in this storyline, what are the Vegas odds on her throwing a breadstick to momentarily distract Harrison and then bolting for the door?
I’m more interested in the Vegas odds concerning how long it takes Joyce to realize she basically just asked Jacob to have unprotected sex with her.
I’m thinking it won’t dawn on her until later that evening, or even possibly when she tries to sleep. A nice micro-brick joke for a month or two from now in real time, perhaps?
Shortly afterwards, while Dorothy is quietly studying in her room, Joyce walks in looking like she just walked through a wind tunnel, slaps a receipt for condoms down on Dorothy’s desk with a note that reads “Let’s get dinner at 7,” and walks back out.
LeslieBean4shizzle
I know you’re referring to Dorothy daring her to buy condoms earlier, but honestly, combined with the note about dinner, it sounds like Joyce is propositioning Dorothy.
BarerMender
And that was personal lubricant, not condoms.
jeffepp
Well, yes. You have read the kind of things Joyce says to Dorothy, haven’t you?
Either Joyce is just as sheltered as IW!Joyce and isn’t aware of how they’re made, or she’s open to the “somebody stick a turkey baster up there and idgaf who’s the donor”
Or, ya know, renting a premade one
Me: Problem is pooping out a kid will 100% kill me, so you’d be stuck as a single parent.
Hubby: …I will rent it out! Someone else can have it, until it can pee in a toilet and talk. Then I will take it back.
Me: OMG YOU ARE THE WORST DAD, LIKE A TRUMP
thejeff
Or she’s just high on baby and hasn’t thought through the implications of what she’s saying.
I broke up with someone when I was eightteen that decided they wanted to get married and have my child after only a month together. She was also super-christian and didn’t want to have sex until we were married, but also didn’t really understand what sex was.
It now reminds me way to much of Joyce, and will likely ruin the comic for me.
College friend of mine’s eldest daughter entered high school while her twin sisters were still poopin’ diapers. Said high school daughter was surrounded by friends who wanted babies NOW. High school daughter managed to convince some of her friends that babies weren’t all (in my friend’s words) “Soft cute dolls that loved you all the time.” My friend figures eldest daughter was single-handedly responsible for a couple-years downward blip in the teen birth rate in their county.
YMMV. I don’t think they’re cute at that moment. XD
Hilzabub
I’ve found the durability of that cuteness is highly correlated with how closely related they are to you.
If they’re your own children, they’re still really cute. If they’re niblings, they’re sort of cute. Your best friends kids, it depends. Other people’s children, they turn into monsters at the moment they expel biological waste.
BBCC
My parents might dispute that – they love us very much, but they didn’t appreciate my brother and I shitting or puking on them. XD
das-g
Considering someone cute, even while they’re shitting, peeing or puking on you doesn’t preclude not appreciating that they are shitting, peeing or puking on you. These two sentiments need not be mutually exclusive.
Wow, Joyce has baby fever like crazy. I have never understood the desire to have children, can anyone explain it to me? Or is it something you have to feel for yourself?
I’ve known I definitely wanted children since I was 12. I was 30 when I had my first (10 years into my relationship with the husband)… Now pregnant with the 3rd even though the 2nd is still at the adorable violent hooligan stage…
ive also wanted kids since 12 or something like that
and…. i am a masochist
….ok checks out o_o
For reals though, it seems to be very biological of a drive. Even if philosophically i believe adoption is a better option in everyway, and having carrying my own would (personally) be something selfish and a bit egotistical, i….. desperately want to be able to get preggers. Not likely to ever happen, but i had a mommy instinct since forever ago, and i end up being the mom of the group often. i try being a good one.
I decided I wasn’t down for it when I was 10 and haven’t wavered. My youngest sibling is 10 years younger than me, and I was the oldest kid in the family, so I got to help with diapers and things a lot. And Barney. I got to supervise a lot of Barney viewings.
Whenever my mom mentions grandkids, I bring up Barney as the reason she’s gonna have to rely on one of her other offspring for that, and she’s like “That’s fair”. She hates Barney as much as I do.
my older brother has 4 kids. i never wanted them, but having to babysit them (they were very badly behaved because their mom felt guilty having to punish her “precious babies”) just made me even more sure.
everyone always says “you’ll change your mind!” im almost 30 and have not changed my mind yet, soon it will be too late even if i do. at least my parents have other grandkids, so they dont really mind. all they’ll get from me is grandcats.
I like being an uncle. Holding a baby is great. Not great is a lot of the other stuff, like when my niece filled her diaper and threw up on me at the exact same time.
Seconded, being an uncle is amazing! You get to enjoy all the baby cute and you’re not around long enough for even the less cute things to really get annoying.
Clif
Yep. And when they’re older, you get to spoil them and their parents have to deal with the consequences.
Yep. You get all of the cuteness while missing 95% of the grossness and loudness. Until there are two kids, at which point you get drafted to look after and entertain the older one.
I think it depends on the person.
I’ve basically always wanted kids.
My wife wasn’t sure until later – late 20s, early 30s. And even then, wanting kids, the idea of raising said kids still kinda terrified her.
That was 10 ish years ago, and now we have two (and, having successfully had two, have both had our tubes tied to prevent any more).
Me abd my partner talked about it a little early on in the relationship and we both wanted kids. Now we’re nearing 30 and she’s starting to have more and more second thoughts. She has valid arguments not to want kids. It’s difficult because I don’t want to be the asshole that pressures her into anything as this is a life-defining thing. On the other hand, I want to be a dad. I want to have kids and am willing to wake up multiple times at night because of that.
Fun stuff
LeslieBean4shizzle
If her concerns are mostly pregnancy focused, then yeah, I hear that. Pregnancy SUCKS.
I will point out that adoption is an option. Prior to her change of heart in the opposite direction, my wife thought maybe adopting would be a better way to go.
Ron
Partly pregnancy related (and everything physical related to having a child) but also the large cost in time and money. We would have someone completely dependent on us two for at least a few years. That’s quite a sacrifice.
Adoption did cross the discussion, but I would like to have at least one child raised from scratch. Not sure why.
It might be something you just have to feel yourself. I’m only 4 months in with no memory of why I wanted to have a screaming beast dig her claws into my face because the bottle she just spit out is not in her mouth, but also she rolled onto her side today and I’m just so thrilled about it?
Definitely your mileage may vary. I’ve known I don’t want biological kids since I was 8 and realized babies mean birth. I’m mildly tokophobic and even without that, I don’t really want kids. I don’t have the temperament, patience, or blood pressure to handle kids 24/7/365. I need the knowledge I will be able to hand them back to someone at some point. That way, the messes and freaking out and stressful situations are someone else’s problem. Sometimes I think it MIGHT be nice to adopt a kid, but it never sticks long. It’s always like ‘Hmm, I wonder – and wondering over, no thank you.’
Yeah, I get that. Giving birth is awful. Like, one of the worst experiences I have ever had.
C-Sections, on the other hand? They’re great. Like, a 1000% better than going through labor.
I can only speak to my own personal experience with my two kids, but going through labor dealt both physical and mental trauma to both mother and child. On the other hand, the C-section was over in seconds but for the stitching up, produced a happier and healthier baby, and had less recovery time.
Turns out, being sliced open is actually less bad for you than trying to push something out an opening that just isn’t quite large enough for it. Who knew?
(and, as always, Disclaimer: I am not a doctor, just someone who got to compare the two IRL)
BBCC
I’ve heard people who have felt similarly! You’re not alone on that score.
Doesn’t help my desire to not be pregnant at all ever, though.
LeslieBean4shizzle
Can’t blame you there.
As I said somewhere else in this thread, I hated being pregnant. It was like having PMS for months with occasional vomiting.
On the other hand, my wife enjoyed her pregnancy. I mean, she still thought huge portions of it sucked, but she enjoyed feeling a new life growing inside her and how connected to our kid it made her feel.
I just felt like an extra in an Aliens movie.
Plus, being pregnant completely kills my sex drive, which I do not appreciate at all.
**sigh**
It’s a good thing that the reward (our kids) were so cute and amazing and wonderful. But yeah, bring on the “growing kids in tubes” tech. Fuck the natural process.
BBCC
“An extra in an Aliens movie” sums up my feelings pretty well actually. XD
See, if we could grow kids in tubes, I might consider kids again. Proooooobably still not happening, but I might think for the two seconds I sometimes give adoption. XD
It’s like my brain is chanting “cute, small, squishy” over and over again and then if that doesn’t work it starts giving me ideas of outfits one could force on a small blob that’d be adorable. If all else fails “you make a thing and then you have legacy of at least one thing made, you have success if you make something and this could be your something! Plus it’s SMALL”
So idk
Brain demands small items
I think it’s basically like wanting a puppy or kitten or something and by the time you realize your mistake there’s a tiny human being who you love and who depends on you for there every need? And sometimes people want a Legacy to feel like they exist after their death or a little critter to teach in hopes it makes them feel good about themself to see their opinions impressed on another person?
But in the infant stage, it’s definitely thinking it’s cute.
I think for some women it might be because if hormones. Like, when my best friend saw a baby she’s go awwww, because tiny human with big eyes. Never really worked for me.
But most normal humans have the need to defend or help a child, so this is just the next step that makes sense, right?
Nope. Seen it happen to my best friend though. And guess what, she has a kid now! :> Been some time since I’ve seen her, but I know that she is a great mom.
Based on my interactions with recent mothers (I have a lot of sisters), I seriously doubt it’s like that.
There’s clearly something chemical affecting their brains, because (let’s face it) babies actually aren’t cute. They’re pudgy and wrinkly and distorted, and quite frequently loud, smelly, and disgusting. It’s quite common to see recent parents looking like sleep-deprived abuse victims. There’s very definitely something more than “I want a sandwich” going on there – something more even than “I am lonely and want something to cuddle”.
Biological brainwashing, that’s what it is. Almost like the species is wired in such a way to propagate itself or something.
tisvana18
I mean, I don’t think pugs or any “ugly” dog is cute. I barely think any dogs are cute. But most people would fight mean that.
Lots of people think babies are cute, and we’re biologically programmed to desire them (though this programming isn’t as strong or present at all in some people for a wide variety of reasons that I am not qualified to ponder, as I have always wanted kids.)
My daughter is adorable to me. Back when she was little, it was how soft and delicate she was with everything. That being said, she will be my only biological one most likely, and I will adopt any future children I desire.
I feel the same – I’ve never wanted to have children and have always been uncomfortable around babies even as a young child (as well as finding the prospect of childbirth terrifying and off-putting). I get along fine with older children, as I’ve discovered since I started teaching piano for a living; but I feel I fit better in a mentor/teacher role than that of a parent.
Fortunately my parents are understanding about it as my mum felt similarly until she was in her mid-thirties, and even then she didn’t feel any desire to have more than one child.
I’ve always been a natural mom. Wanting to take care of my brothers, my dogs, my roommates and later my parents. The thought of raising a child, helping them with their homework, trying to instil values and accepting the values they develop themselves makes me feel warm and fuzzy. Putting it off until I am responsible enough and have a stable enough career guts me sometimes.
171 thoughts on “Fart”
Ana Chronistic
and THAT EXACT MOMENT is when Jaime decides to drop the bomb
bc we all know who the smartest one in this group is
Deanatay
What, he announces he’s gay?
Well, that WOULD sure cause a stink
Doctor_Who
With the impulse control and consequence consideration Joyce has displayed thus far in this storyline, what are the Vegas odds on her throwing a breadstick to momentarily distract Harrison and then bolting for the door?
ValdVin
At least when Leslie held that lost infant in Shortpacked, Leslie knew the danger involved.
LeslieBean4shizzle
I’m more interested in the Vegas odds concerning how long it takes Joyce to realize she basically just asked Jacob to have unprotected sex with her.
I’m thinking it won’t dawn on her until later that evening, or even possibly when she tries to sleep. A nice micro-brick joke for a month or two from now in real time, perhaps?
Schpoonman
Shortly afterwards, while Dorothy is quietly studying in her room, Joyce walks in looking like she just walked through a wind tunnel, slaps a receipt for condoms down on Dorothy’s desk with a note that reads “Let’s get dinner at 7,” and walks back out.
LeslieBean4shizzle
I know you’re referring to Dorothy daring her to buy condoms earlier, but honestly, combined with the note about dinner, it sounds like Joyce is propositioning Dorothy.
BarerMender
And that was personal lubricant, not condoms.
jeffepp
Well, yes. You have read the kind of things Joyce says to Dorothy, haven’t you?
Ana Chronistic
Either Joyce is just as sheltered as IW!Joyce and isn’t aware of how they’re made, or she’s open to the “somebody stick a turkey baster up there and idgaf who’s the donor”
Or, ya know, renting a premade one
Me: Problem is pooping out a kid will 100% kill me, so you’d be stuck as a single parent.
Hubby: …I will rent it out! Someone else can have it, until it can pee in a toilet and talk. Then I will take it back.
Me: OMG YOU ARE THE WORST DAD, LIKE A TRUMP
thejeff
Or she’s just high on baby and hasn’t thought through the implications of what she’s saying.
Diane
Little early for your biological clock to be ticking, isn’t it Joyce?
AntJ
I have friends who screamed “I NEED TWELVE CHILDREN NOW” at 18
Wraith_Ferron
I broke up with someone when I was eightteen that decided they wanted to get married and have my child after only a month together. She was also super-christian and didn’t want to have sex until we were married, but also didn’t really understand what sex was.
It now reminds me way to much of Joyce, and will likely ruin the comic for me.
Bunny
Naw, biologically speaking, that’s right on time. Culturally, it’s early.
DSL
College friend of mine’s eldest daughter entered high school while her twin sisters were still poopin’ diapers. Said high school daughter was surrounded by friends who wanted babies NOW. High school daughter managed to convince some of her friends that babies weren’t all (in my friend’s words) “Soft cute dolls that loved you all the time.” My friend figures eldest daughter was single-handedly responsible for a couple-years downward blip in the teen birth rate in their county.
DarkoNeko
Noooo you don’t
Synnerman
Baby rabies!!!
BBCC
Admittedly, he IS adorable.
Until he shits or pukes on you. Or both.
LeslieBean4shizzle
I can attest that babies remain adorable even while shitting, peeing, or puking on you.
Gods damned babies and their impossible to avoid cuteness.
BBCC
YMMV. I don’t think they’re cute at that moment. XD
Hilzabub
I’ve found the durability of that cuteness is highly correlated with how closely related they are to you.
If they’re your own children, they’re still really cute. If they’re niblings, they’re sort of cute. Your best friends kids, it depends. Other people’s children, they turn into monsters at the moment they expel biological waste.
BBCC
My parents might dispute that – they love us very much, but they didn’t appreciate my brother and I shitting or puking on them. XD
das-g
Considering someone cute, even while they’re shitting, peeing or puking on you doesn’t preclude not appreciating that they are shitting, peeing or puking on you. These two sentiments need not be mutually exclusive.
Opus the Poet
It’s hard-coded in our genes. We find babies adorable because people who don’t have poor reproductive performance, their kids don’t last long.
Clif
It may be hard coded, but that makes the little rug rats not one bit less cuter.
Zee
Tbh after my dog had a litter of puppies, irl babies stopped being all that cute to me. Jamie though, Jamie’s a cute Lil sucker
Stephen Bierce
*reprises the Crosby, Stills & Nash on the jukebox because the alternatives are beneath the audience here*
Deanatay
Pfft, whatever.
Baby, baby, I’m taken with the notion
To love you with the sweetest of devotion
Kyrik Michalowski
Wow, Joyce has baby fever like crazy. I have never understood the desire to have children, can anyone explain it to me? Or is it something you have to feel for yourself?
ian livs
I’ve never understood it either. Like, to me, kids are 10000x cuter when I am NOT, in any way, responsible for them.
Miri
I’ve known I definitely wanted children since I was 12. I was 30 when I had my first (10 years into my relationship with the husband)… Now pregnant with the 3rd even though the 2nd is still at the adorable violent hooligan stage…
Masochism, I think it’s called ??
Vika
ive also wanted kids since 12 or something like that
and…. i am a masochist
….ok checks out o_o
For reals though, it seems to be very biological of a drive. Even if philosophically i believe adoption is a better option in everyway, and having carrying my own would (personally) be something selfish and a bit egotistical, i….. desperately want to be able to get preggers. Not likely to ever happen, but i had a mommy instinct since forever ago, and i end up being the mom of the group often. i try being a good one.
Doctor_Who
I decided I wasn’t down for it when I was 10 and haven’t wavered. My youngest sibling is 10 years younger than me, and I was the oldest kid in the family, so I got to help with diapers and things a lot. And Barney. I got to supervise a lot of Barney viewings.
Whenever my mom mentions grandkids, I bring up Barney as the reason she’s gonna have to rely on one of her other offspring for that, and she’s like “That’s fair”. She hates Barney as much as I do.
laladoria
my older brother has 4 kids. i never wanted them, but having to babysit them (they were very badly behaved because their mom felt guilty having to punish her “precious babies”) just made me even more sure.
everyone always says “you’ll change your mind!” im almost 30 and have not changed my mind yet, soon it will be too late even if i do. at least my parents have other grandkids, so they dont really mind. all they’ll get from me is grandcats.
DailyBrad
I like being an uncle. Holding a baby is great. Not great is a lot of the other stuff, like when my niece filled her diaper and threw up on me at the exact same time.
timemonkey
Seconded, being an uncle is amazing! You get to enjoy all the baby cute and you’re not around long enough for even the less cute things to really get annoying.
Clif
Yep. And when they’re older, you get to spoil them and their parents have to deal with the consequences.
BBCC
Right? Best set up ever.
StClair
This, right here.
Keulen
Maybe some time later I’ll want kids of my own, but right now I’m fine with being an uncle.
Matticus
Yep. You get all of the cuteness while missing 95% of the grossness and loudness. Until there are two kids, at which point you get drafted to look after and entertain the older one.
LeslieBean4shizzle
I think it depends on the person.
I’ve basically always wanted kids.
My wife wasn’t sure until later – late 20s, early 30s. And even then, wanting kids, the idea of raising said kids still kinda terrified her.
That was 10 ish years ago, and now we have two (and, having successfully had two, have both had our tubes tied to prevent any more).
Ron
Me abd my partner talked about it a little early on in the relationship and we both wanted kids. Now we’re nearing 30 and she’s starting to have more and more second thoughts. She has valid arguments not to want kids. It’s difficult because I don’t want to be the asshole that pressures her into anything as this is a life-defining thing. On the other hand, I want to be a dad. I want to have kids and am willing to wake up multiple times at night because of that.
Fun stuff
LeslieBean4shizzle
If her concerns are mostly pregnancy focused, then yeah, I hear that. Pregnancy SUCKS.
I will point out that adoption is an option. Prior to her change of heart in the opposite direction, my wife thought maybe adopting would be a better way to go.
Ron
Partly pregnancy related (and everything physical related to having a child) but also the large cost in time and money. We would have someone completely dependent on us two for at least a few years. That’s quite a sacrifice.
Adoption did cross the discussion, but I would like to have at least one child raised from scratch. Not sure why.
Deadjolras
My parents adopted me when I was a few months old and I’d say they raised me “from scratch”.
BBCC
It’s possible to find a pregnant person looking to give a baby up. Babies get adopted on day one all the time.
Skeptible
The use of “from scratch” in this context made me smile.
Leorale
It’s lovely to want to be a dad. It’s also fine to not want to create and raise people (adopted or otherwise).
But, if you get to wanting kids vs. not wanting kids, there’s no compromise between those two. One can’t have kids just a little.
Definitely a job for couple’s counselor, if you’re okay with that.
Keysmeys
It might be something you just have to feel yourself. I’m only 4 months in with no memory of why I wanted to have a screaming beast dig her claws into my face because the bottle she just spit out is not in her mouth, but also she rolled onto her side today and I’m just so thrilled about it?
BBCC
Definitely your mileage may vary. I’ve known I don’t want biological kids since I was 8 and realized babies mean birth. I’m mildly tokophobic and even without that, I don’t really want kids. I don’t have the temperament, patience, or blood pressure to handle kids 24/7/365. I need the knowledge I will be able to hand them back to someone at some point. That way, the messes and freaking out and stressful situations are someone else’s problem. Sometimes I think it MIGHT be nice to adopt a kid, but it never sticks long. It’s always like ‘Hmm, I wonder – and wondering over, no thank you.’
Clif
Well, you know, preteens need adopting too.
BBCC
They do indeed.
And I hope someone equipped to parent them does so.
LeslieBean4shizzle
Yeah, I get that. Giving birth is awful. Like, one of the worst experiences I have ever had.
C-Sections, on the other hand? They’re great. Like, a 1000% better than going through labor.
I can only speak to my own personal experience with my two kids, but going through labor dealt both physical and mental trauma to both mother and child. On the other hand, the C-section was over in seconds but for the stitching up, produced a happier and healthier baby, and had less recovery time.
Turns out, being sliced open is actually less bad for you than trying to push something out an opening that just isn’t quite large enough for it. Who knew?
(and, as always, Disclaimer: I am not a doctor, just someone who got to compare the two IRL)
BBCC
I’ve heard people who have felt similarly! You’re not alone on that score.
Doesn’t help my desire to not be pregnant at all ever, though.
LeslieBean4shizzle
Can’t blame you there.
As I said somewhere else in this thread, I hated being pregnant. It was like having PMS for months with occasional vomiting.
On the other hand, my wife enjoyed her pregnancy. I mean, she still thought huge portions of it sucked, but she enjoyed feeling a new life growing inside her and how connected to our kid it made her feel.
I just felt like an extra in an Aliens movie.
Plus, being pregnant completely kills my sex drive, which I do not appreciate at all.
**sigh**
It’s a good thing that the reward (our kids) were so cute and amazing and wonderful. But yeah, bring on the “growing kids in tubes” tech. Fuck the natural process.
BBCC
“An extra in an Aliens movie” sums up my feelings pretty well actually. XD
See, if we could grow kids in tubes, I might consider kids again. Proooooobably still not happening, but I might think for the two seconds I sometimes give adoption. XD
Br44n5m
It’s like my brain is chanting “cute, small, squishy” over and over again and then if that doesn’t work it starts giving me ideas of outfits one could force on a small blob that’d be adorable. If all else fails “you make a thing and then you have legacy of at least one thing made, you have success if you make something and this could be your something! Plus it’s SMALL”
So idk
Brain demands small items
Zee
I mean, it’s only small for a little bit
not someone else
I think it’s basically like wanting a puppy or kitten or something and by the time you realize your mistake there’s a tiny human being who you love and who depends on you for there every need? And sometimes people want a Legacy to feel like they exist after their death or a little critter to teach in hopes it makes them feel good about themself to see their opinions impressed on another person?
But in the infant stage, it’s definitely thinking it’s cute.
not someone else
*their
Jago
I think for some women it might be because if hormones. Like, when my best friend saw a baby she’s go awwww, because tiny human with big eyes. Never really worked for me.
But most normal humans have the need to defend or help a child, so this is just the next step that makes sense, right?
Clif
Seeing your opinions impressed on another person never works out in the long run.
Matticus
I have a friend who is a parent of two, and he has often described raising small kids as being akin to getting a puppy that slowly learns to talk.
Jago
Nope. Seen it happen to my best friend though. And guess what, she has a kid now! :> Been some time since I’ve seen her, but I know that she is a great mom.
Z
I mean… Is there anything you DO want? A pet? A partner? A friendship? A career?
Its like that.
begbert2
Based on my interactions with recent mothers (I have a lot of sisters), I seriously doubt it’s like that.
There’s clearly something chemical affecting their brains, because (let’s face it) babies actually aren’t cute. They’re pudgy and wrinkly and distorted, and quite frequently loud, smelly, and disgusting. It’s quite common to see recent parents looking like sleep-deprived abuse victims. There’s very definitely something more than “I want a sandwich” going on there – something more even than “I am lonely and want something to cuddle”.
Biological brainwashing, that’s what it is. Almost like the species is wired in such a way to propagate itself or something.
tisvana18
I mean, I don’t think pugs or any “ugly” dog is cute. I barely think any dogs are cute. But most people would fight mean that.
Lots of people think babies are cute, and we’re biologically programmed to desire them (though this programming isn’t as strong or present at all in some people for a wide variety of reasons that I am not qualified to ponder, as I have always wanted kids.)
My daughter is adorable to me. Back when she was little, it was how soft and delicate she was with everything. That being said, she will be my only biological one most likely, and I will adopt any future children I desire.
NemesisDancer
I feel the same – I’ve never wanted to have children and have always been uncomfortable around babies even as a young child (as well as finding the prospect of childbirth terrifying and off-putting). I get along fine with older children, as I’ve discovered since I started teaching piano for a living; but I feel I fit better in a mentor/teacher role than that of a parent.
Fortunately my parents are understanding about it as my mum felt similarly until she was in her mid-thirties, and even then she didn’t feel any desire to have more than one child.
Pidgey
I’ve always been a natural mom. Wanting to take care of my brothers, my dogs, my roommates and later my parents. The thought of raising a child, helping them with their homework, trying to instil values and accepting the values they develop themselves makes me feel warm and fuzzy. Putting it off until I am responsible enough and have a stable enough career guts me sometimes.
Jhennaside