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Forthright
Posted on April 5, 2015 by David M Willis

270 thoughts on “Forthright”

  1. An Average Loser

    Dude Smut. Funny.

    1. LeslieBean4Shizzle

      How long before Joyce discovers the dude smut subgenre specifically devoted to entertaining women? Better know, of course, as yaoi.

      1. Shanunu

        I never got how yaoi was marketed at females. I find nothing more or less attractive about it. Is it supposed to be adorable or something?

        1. Sam

          Well if you’re into dudes and you happen to like a little romance and plot to go with your porn what’s better than two dudes banging after an angsty backstory? Granted, most of the yaoi genre is filled with crap, but it’s porn, it’s not like it needs to be super tasteful all the time.

        2. TachyonCode

          You forgot about the yaoi hands. (Oh god the yaoi hands why)

        3. David M Willis

        4. Alzarath

          I appreciate you.

        5. syd

          TAKE A LOOK AT THESE HANDS

        6. Lel

          BIG MEATY CLAWS

        7. SonicBlueRanger

          They look like good strong hands. Don’t they?

        8. Thanks, I'll Have Another!

          THE HAND SPEAKS

          THE HAND OF A GOVERNMENT MAN

        9. Historyman68

          THEYRR PASSING INBETWEEN US

        10. Vincent

          @SonicBlueRanger: Ow right in the childhood.

        11. Leorale

          Hawt!

        12. overdosed

          the hands are as big as anime eyes but like david always likes to do is to givith and taketh away on a side note some one beat jenaside to first comment today

        13. Nono

          You kow what they say about guys with big hands.

        14. Urishima

          They can easily jack off a horse.
          Wait… I think I fucked that up.

        15. Abel Undercity

          (Nods in a knowing manner)

          Big gloves!

        16. Leorale

          Big gloves?

        17. neeks

          I just think of it as the inverse of dudes thinking lesbians are super hot, geared for the female gaze instead of the male gaze.

        18. StClair

          Pretty much.

        19. Yet_One_More_Idiot

          I don’t know about other guys, but I prefer lesbian porn that’s geared to men not because of specific fantasies about attempting to get with lesbians, but just because it’s hotter for me to watch a woman and a second woman than to watch a woman and a man. That way, I don’t get feelings of inadequacy whilst enjoying mah pr0nz. 😛

        20. ANeM

          It is a pretty simple formula to make porn hotter for some people. Remove the person they find unattractive, replace them with someone they’d find attractive.

        21. Foxhack

          It… depends on the story. Much like straight porn, there’s various types of yaoi with different perspectives / focus on plot or lack thereof.

          Source: An old friend of mine who introduced me to it about ten years ago. I still kinda hate her for that. ;_;

        22. Madock345

          Well the idea is that Yaoi is marketed towards women while Bara is marketed towards men. Yaoi tends to be more romantic and stuff I guess. I think it’s a cultural thing since as a dude I still prefer yaoi, though both are awesome.

        23. Mr. Morningstar

          Honestly I find both Yaoi and Bara to be meh.

          Both seem to have weird ideas about proportions. With yaoi its the hands and head, with bara its the chests.

          Dear god how are those chests so damn huge.

        24. Kryss LaBryn

          Leifeld? *Snicker*

        25. erronius

          Oooh I know this one! In japanese culture, dominance in women is heavily frowned on. Now, Yaoi usually has one older, dominant boy paired with a younger, passive boy. The idea was that a woman reader could safely put herself in the place of either character, even the dominant one, without causing them to violate cultural norms, allowing them to experience feelings which would make them feel uncomfortable in real life.

          So I guess the truth is, it is primarily marketed to Japanese women, for cultural reasons.

        26. Shanunu

          Okay, THIS makes the most sense to me, and even then I don’t get why females who are attracted to guys would read about guys liking guys to make themselves feel happy, but hey, there’s tones of people that go for it.

        27. Time Sage

          It’s marketed to females because it’s mostly written BY Females. Dudes tend to write more Bara related stories.

        28. Deanatay

          I had no idea that ‘bara’ existed. Now I have Googled it. I shall never need to do so again. Thank you, commenters, for expanding my vocabulary.

          As Joyce mentioned, though, “This is knowledge I shouldn’t have.”

    2. Plasma Mongoose

      Removing dude smut off your laptop and deck requires special cleaners and paper towels.

  2. Mr. Random

    There is Smut of every kind.

    1. Jen Aside

      One might need a SMUT PEDDLER to manage it all!

      1. Jen Aside

        (inb4 YOU WEREN’T FIRST: I was distracted by XCOM)

        1. AgentKeen

          We totally didn’t get worried about you yesterday or anything.
          >.>
          <.<

        2. Ryan

          But in the course of our not-worried wonderings about your whereabouts, a bunch of us finally realized the true meaning of “Jen Aside”.

        3. Mr. Morningstar

          …
          OH FOR FUCK SAKE HOW DID I MISS THAT ONE

        4. user18

          See? I did nothing!

        5. Boomwolf

          I didn’t even panic… STOP LOOKING AT ME!!!!

        6. Jen Aside

          EVAC! We need emergency EVAC! NOW, DAMMIT, NOW!!!

          *shoots friendly*

        7. 3dGuard

          Every game mission in Long War ever >_>

        8. Rutee

          Put some damn alien trophies on your rookies if you don’t want them panicking. They gave you 3 pockets at game start for a reason.

        9. Heimdallw32

          But then I can’t put grenades in all those slots, and I’m not sure I want to live on that kind of world.

        10. Jen Aside

          The best is when a mind-controlled alien gets killed AND THAT MAKES THEN PANIC

          whuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut

        11. Jen Aside

          THEM

          I’M SO DISTRESSED I’M TYPOING

        12. TheLurkerAbove

          XCOM is awesome. Surprised you were only distracted for 7 minutes.

        13. Nightsbridge

          Distracted for only eight minutes by Xcom? You are terrifying.

        14. Jen Aside

          to be fair, someone else was playing ¬_¬ (I’m supposed to be working on something and am not, surprise surprise)

        15. Pantheon the Mantheon

          From one Commander to another, I salute you Jen Aside. Show those little green assholes the meaning of that word your name sounds like!

      2. JessWitt

        Just don’t confuse a dude smut peddler with a smut peddler dude.

      3. syd

        My smut is too strong for you, traveler

    2. Ryan

      But is there some sort of law or rule on the internet somewhere that codifies this idea? Perhaps one in a numbered list of rules?

    3. Pat

      Just type literally any word or phrase into a search engine to find it.

      1. John

        I just typed “literally any phrase” into GIS, and, with safe search on, got full-frontal naked chick on the eighth screen of results.

        1. Madock345

          You went to the eighth page of Google? I don’t think I’ve ever been past the second, and only then when I’m rea desperate.

        2. John

          Eighth screen, first page. And I don’t run my browser full-screen.

        3. Kintrex

          I tried that with safe search both on and off, and didn’t see any nudity. Perhaps Google’s search algorithms have been trained to show you nudity?

        4. fogel

          I tried in Bing. No naked ladies, but a bunch of cool stuff.

  3. JustcallmeSoul

    joyce… nuuuu

  4. timemonkey

    But Ethan, imagine how much more fun it would be without the shame.

    1. Plasma Mongoose

      Maybe he needs the shame so he can feel dirty when he does it.

  5. Idon'tcarenomore

    Joyce at least is not being too pushy. just sorta.
    And her world expands every day 🙂

  6. grantimusmaximus

    And now the knowledge that Dude Smut (my guess is that is the name of the next slipshine, the one with 3 or more dudes) is going to forever hang over Joyce’s innocent little head for the rest of the day.

    1. cesium133

      The Dude Smut websites will notice the traffic coming from Indiana University suddenly skyrocket, and then Ruth will suddenly have to deal with more complaints about permanent markered dongs.

    2. Rycan

      To be fair, Joyce has a limited capacity to imagine what Dude Smut would actually entail. Maybe they tickle each other with drumsticks in her mind?

      1. James

        Whatever she actually imagines, there’s probably a market out there for exactly that.

  7. Catullus

    Ethan, you may have unleashed something dangerous

    1. grantimusmaximus

      SEXO LOCO!

    2. grantimusmaximus

      SEXO LOCO

      1. grantimusmaximus

        woops, double post.

        1. AgentKeen

          SO LOCO IT CAN’T BE CONTAINED BY ONE POST!

    3. Comatose

      Cue slipshine:
      “Joyce Snaps and Sucks a Billion Dicks.”

      1. Deanatay

        Joyce Snaps and Downloads a Billion Dicks… To Draw
        aka
        A Phallady Is Born

    4. zoomer296

      The rise of the Anti-Joyce!

      http://walkypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-Joyce

  8. Kris

    There’s a whole world of smut out there Joyce. You haven’t even scratched the surface.

    1. Ryan

      … which is just one of the many kinds of smut out there.

      1. neeks

        Scratching surfaces?

        1. Bagge

          DUDES DOIN’ IT

        2. Yossarian Duck

          …ON SURFACES, WHILE SCRATCHING

        3. Mr. Morningstar

          Kinky.

  9. otusasio451

    Joyce, NO!!! Stay away from the internet! You’ll never be the same!! Don’t go to the Lemon Party, forget about eh Sandbox, and DON’T GO TO PEN ISLAND!

    1. Cynthia

      Whatever she does, she absolutely cannot go to r/elsanna. Very very very slippery things would ensue…

      1. grantimusmaximus

        She might need a cold shower afterwards. A frozen one, if you will.

        1. Plasma Mongoose

          Especially with all that Anna/Elsa Rule 34 out there. 😀

        2. Rycan

          That would just give her a concussion.

        3. Cynthia

          Ice is slippery!

    2. Orbit Junkie

      Yeah, there’s no way Joyce could handle all of those dirty, dirty custom pens.

      1. Orbit Junkie

        Just thinking about all of those skilled craftsmen handling that large assortment of exotic virgin wood is getting me hot.

        1. Orbit Junkie

          Ooh! They’ve also got hand-rubbed lacquers! (Seriously, for a custom pen website that’s had to deal with an unfortunate name for its entire existence, their web designers are terrible at removing innuendo)

        2. Orbit Junkie

          And I have missed the joke twice.

        3. brionl

          Pen Island is a misnomer.
          (It’s really a peninsula)

  10. Demon Something

    You know what. He’s just not ready. It takes time sometimes for that level of confidence. Took me a year. Though everyone knows in Ethan’s case.

    1. Time Sage

      I don’t think I was ready when I came out. It was cause by boyfriend induced trauma (AKA Getting a text message that read like a suicide note and then not hearing from him for hours. I texted him daily after that for awhile) Coming out is scary. That said the more people you tell, the easier it becomes. I can flat out admit it now to anyone (Aside from a small handful I’m purposely hiding it from)

  11. elielh

    Joyce, embrace the smut, you know you want it.

    1. Kris

      Now I wonder what kind of smut Joyce would be into. Dexter and Monkey Master smut? It probably exists.

      1. elielh

        In our universe, I don’t know, but in the dumbiverse it most exist.

      2. Bill

        Of course it exists.  Rule 34, don’t ‘cha know.

      3. Vorkon

        I’m calling it right now, that’s the next slipshine.

        Just imagine all the places he’ll put that power booster rod…

      4. Kamino Neko

        Bible smut.

        Dirty, dirty bible smut.

        1. Leorale

          Ooh, Boaz, take me on the threashing floor! You are the next of kin!

        2. AlexanderHammil

          Onan (Mostly) Performs A Sex, a tragical slipshine in three-quarters of an act.

        3. Rycan

          And that’s only Act II.

  12. JessWitt

    Correction Ethan, you have a second ex-girlfriend and a whole bunch of yaoi fans who want to hurry you out of the closet.

    *sigh* But really dude, take your time. If you’re not comfortable yet, fine.

    1. MM

      And you may just have ensured 100% overlap between those two groups.

    2. Smiling Cat

      I am neither an ex or a yaoi fan, but I also want him to hurry out of the closet. Possibly while singing Let it Go. Maybe while slapping one of the board of directors of Chick fil a in the face with one of their chicken sandwiches. (Not one of the workers, though. Those guys are just trying to make rent).

      I’m a firm believer that personal growth through a defiant stand against everybody that would fuck with you is the best kind of growth.

      1. Disloyal Subject

        Of all the appropriate choices for slapping them with, you picked a sandwich?
        Well… perhaps “appropriate” isn’t the vest choice of word…

        1. Smiling Cat

          It’s not about the violence. Like, I don’t want them slapped to hurt them. I imagine the scene as an act of defiance rather than retribution. Straightforward, forthright, and nothing people need to call cops or ambulances over.

        2. No Name

          Unfortunately, hitting anyone with anything is assault and/or battery, depending on district, and the jerks at Chick-fil-a would have a case. Sorry, Smiling Cat.

        3. Kryss LaBryn

          Hit them in the face with a stunningly appropriate metaphor.

          Should still be safe. 😀

        4. Smiling Cat

          If a gay man hit them in the face with one of their own sandwiches over their stance on gays, without causing any actual injury, they wouldn’t risk the press by pursuing it in the courts. Ethan would be a folk hero.

  13. -Sentinel-

    I’m trying not to be judgmental, but a four-hour binge EVERY NIGHT sounds rather pathological.

    1. JessWitt

      It sounds tiring personally. Ethan has SOME stamina.

      1. -Sentinel-

        Looking at smut requires no stamina.

        1. JessWitt

          Looking at a computer screen for four hours straight can be murder on the eyeballs.

        2. Urukak

          Masturbating while doing so does though. That said, Shortpacked!Ethan once had a boner that lasted for like six weeks, so I’m not willing to discount anything.

        3. Rycan

          I don’t recall Viagra ever being involved in Shortpacked!

        4. Spencer

          It was because of Batman toys.

          http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=2025

        5. Rycan

          So, Batman Viagra.

        6. DarkoNeko

          huuum if that lasts over 4/6 hours, one is supposed to see a doc because the zone starts risking necrosis from lack of oxygen

  14. 6Qubed

    *”A Whole New World* from Aladdin plays softly in the distance*

    1. Bagge

      Complete with a medley of a shirtless Aladdin

  15. Stephen Bierce

    The host sites have those nasty Russian spam worms infecting them so deleting the browser history is a very appropriate thing to do. So I am told.

  16. Hannah

    Ethan has just opened a bunch whole new doors for Joyce… and maybe even a back door or two, you know, if she ever discovers yaoi. 😛

  17. shoeboxjeddy

    “I’m a little ashamed… but I think that’s natural.”

    /It’s Always Sunny

  18. licoricepencil

    Joyce’s reaction was my reaction. I still have not gone looking for the dude smut.

    1. Rycan

      I can’t decide if your gravatar is wholly appropriate or wholly inappropriate for your comment.

      1. No Name

        It’s in that quantum state where it’s both at the same time.

        1. Rycan

          That’s impossible. Could be undecided, though.

  19. HeinousActsZX

    Incognito mode is your friend, Ethan.

  20. JessWitt

    Where there’s dude smut, there’s fire…men. Sexy firemen.

    1. fogel

      Wrong webcomic: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2929

      1. JessWitt

        It can be two webcomics! And beyond the sexual binary, too.

        1. Cynthia

          And that’s Tengen Toppa!

  21. Blue

    What should we start the countdown to Joyce going in search of gay porn at?

    (Also, she should talk to Amber about this, maybe? We know Amber reads explicit slashfic, so she might have information relevant to Joyce’s …interests here.)

  22. Kris

    You know Jacob could have been in this strip. He seems like a trustworth guy. He can keep a secret.

  23. Vangeln

    Jacob is probably binging some kind of smut while he’s not present.

  24. dmaxx

    Dat “i know i shouldn’t know but tell me anyway so i can go all fangirl like over it” face at the end xD

  25. Kernanator

    Pandora’s box has been opened. There is no going back from this knowledge.

    1. Deanatay

      Her name’s ‘Joyce’. It’s ‘Joyce’s Box’.

      1. Skai Cyan

        Much to Becky’s dismay, ‘Joyce’s Box’ stays firmly shut. ifyouknowwhatimean.jpg

  26. TSB

    Is this going to be a comedy of errors where Joyce’s new sensitivity leads her to respectfully help Ethan stay closeted until he’s ready to come out, leading Dorothy to believe that Joyce is continuing with her “pray the gay away” plan?

    1. JessWitt

      Much Ado About Dumbing?

  27. John

    Come out of the closet, Ethan! Think of Jacob’s appearance numbers!

    Also think of Jacob’s appearance. You know you want to.

  28. GoogerGeiger

    No, Joyce. Getting on the Dude Smut Train puts you on a one-way trip to Premarital Hanky Panky-ville!

  29. Yu'Karaya

    And then a yaoi consuming monster is born

  30. pretty flacko

    Wow the comments here are very quick. What kind of sorcery do they possess?

    1. Disloyal Subject

      Timeliness, fascination, and quantity.
      You get used to it. Welcome to the swarm.

  31. Luzahn

    Careful Joyce, you’re dangerously close to becoming an adorable Gollum.

  32. AgentKeen

    Aww, Joyce seems to already have some understanding of Rule 34.

    She’s growing up.

  33. tim gueguen

    So, how long before Joyce finds out there’s Jesus slashfic?

    1. Boomwolf

      please tell me that isn’t a thing…

      1. elielh

        Why wouldn’t it be? It’s the internet, we do not fear such things as heresy.

      2. John

        Of course it’s a thing. Judas betrays Jesus with a kiss, and that’s more fuel than slashficcers need right there.

        1. Boomwolf

          And with that, i hear by renounce my humanity to become a wolf… a boomwolf mind you, but a wolf nonetheless.

        2. elielh

          Optimus Prime X Jesus short story… https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10656008/1/Honk-for-Jesus

        3. boomwolf

          … If you need me, I’ll just be in the corner, crying for the rest of my life.

        4. StClair

          Jesus Christ Superstar is from 1970, and is soaked in jealous HoYay. I’m sure there are earlier examples.

        5. Leorale

          Jesus hung out with twelve dudes in the desert and then they all washed each other’s feet. It’s RIGHT THERE

        6. John

          HoooooYeah. The movie opens with Judas storming in all in a jealous rage because Mary Magdalene’s making time with Jesus, then there’s the betrayal with the kiss, and then Judas, before his suicide, echos Mary Magdalene’s love song to Jesus almost word-for-word.

          JUDAS:
          I don’t know how to love him
          I don’t know why he moves me
          He’s a man
          He’s just a man
          He’s not a King
          He’s just the same
          As anyone I know
          He scares me so
          When he’s cold and dead
          Will he let me be?
          Does he love?
          Does he love me too?
          Does he care for me?

          I’m pretty sure the slashfic subtext was deliberate, too.

        7. Adam Black

          Never a Fan of Superstar.

          The Ho-yay is little more explicit in this Judas slash siren:

          Haven’t seen you in quite a while
          I was down the hold just passing time
          Last time we met was a low-lit room
          We were as close together as a bride and groom
          We ate the food, we drank the wine
          Everybody having a good time
          Except you
          You were talking about the end of the world

          I took the money
          I spiked your drink
          You miss too much these days if you stop to think
          You led me on with those innocent eyes
          You know I love the element of surprise
          In the garden I was playing the tart
          I kissed your lips and broke your heart
          You, you were acting like it was
          The end of the world

          In my dream I was drowning my sorrows
          But my sorrows, they learned to swim
          Surrounding me, going down on me
          Spilling over the brim
          Waves of regret and waves of joy
          I reached out for the one I tried to destroy
          You, you said you’d wait
          ‘Til the end of the world
          — Paul Hewson ( of “The Hype” and “The Passengers” )

    2. fogel

      Like, Seymour’ s in Sinfest?

  34. Someone

    Just checked, and yes, yes their is.

  35. Bill

    I could really never understand the desire or craving for porn, dude-smut or otherwise. As far as I could figure out, sex was never meant to be a spectator sport.

    1. Trolldrool

      It’s basically all about fulfilling fantasies. And sometimes exploring what turns you on or what turns you off.

    2. John

      Most people’ve got at least a little voyeur in them (as evidenced by the fact that smut’s driven basically every media advance in the history of ever, from clay sculpting to broadband Internet), and exhibitionism is a pretty common kink, too.

    3. Plasma Mongoose

      Wanking to porn is a spectator sport now, I’m not comfortable with the idea of wanking in front of an audience.

    4. Incomitatus

      Throughout the vast majority of human history the vast majority of people did not have private bedrooms.

      Sex has *mostly* been a spectator sport.

    5. Vancore

      I agree, the porn you visualize in your head is much more intense and personal then most porn that people film.

    6. Hoboturtle

      Ha, spectator sport. Like couldn’t you imagine all porn having three judges giving points on how well they did?

      1. tim gueguen

        Given the variety of porn out there it’s surprising someone hasn’t done a “Sex Olympics” where teams compete against each other, live on webcam, with judges rating them.

        1. Mr. Morningstar

          I beleive I remember there is some porn where two people wrestle, and the winner ends up topping the lose in the ensuing porn.

          I think it was only guys on guys and girls on girls tho.

        2. Bill

          Tim and Hoboturtle, check out “The Groove Tube”.  It was a 1974 film consisting of short vignettes and parodies, in the style of “Kentucky Fried Movie”, and included in the cast Chevy Chase and Richard Belzer; and one of the vignettes was a skit called “Sex Olympics”.  I’m sure you can find it on-line somewhere or maybe thru Amazon or Netflix.

        3. Roborat

          Damn, you beat me to it, I had almost the exact same post typed up, then I happened to scroll down to see if anybody had replied yet, good thing I did.

      2. ahuh

        You’ve seen the end of Bananas haven’t you?

  36. Jen

    I imagine Joyce’s reaction to dude smut would be much like this youtube vid: Korean Girls Are Introduced to Magic Mike — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYRH-nOHUtM

    1. Leorale

      Oh wow, this reaction video is awesome.

      1. Jen

        The guy did a whole series of “korean girls react to” and “Korean guys react to” The one with the Anaconda video is good, too. 🙂

  37. Rodimiss

    I am surprised that Joyce knows the term “smut.” My guess is from a traumatic experience in exploring the online Monkey Master fandom or something.

    1. Deanatay

      ‘smut’ is a term religious people use a LOT, to describe media that portrays verboten subjects, like porn. The word ‘smut’ refers to dirt or soot, and is a way of saying something’s ‘dirty’.

      1. fogel

        From German schmutz, I believe.

  38. CenturyChild533

    “This is knowledge I should not have.”

    I usually find myself saying this about once a week in regards to the Internet.

  39. Plasma Mongoose

    I forgot that daylight savings was over today…

    1. Jason

      Uh, wasn’t that a while ago?

      1. Plasma Mongoose

        About a month ago, New York started their daylight saving, but since I live in South Australia, daylight savings ended today.

        1. fogel

          Is it confusing dealing with SA’ s 1/2 hour offset? For me, dealing with time zones that are offset by whole hours is challenging enough.

        2. DarkoNeko

          Here’s some more confusing : unlike USA, (most of) Europe switches time the last sunday of March.

        3. Plasma Mongoose

          fogel: Only when it comes to dealing with Vic, NSW and Qld, I just remember DoA as starting at 15:31 Adelaide time during summer, 14:31 during the periods between the Adelaide and New York’s changing to & from daylight savings and finally 13:31 during winter.

        4. fogel

          My brain went phzzz at 15:31 :-0

        5. fogel

          The only thing my wife and I worry about is what time tests start in US Eastern Time and I write those on the calendar.

        6. fogel

          That’s why we need Zulu Time (= the whole earth is one time zone)!

  40. Liz

    Joyce, noooooo.

  41. Jason

    Why is Ethan hiding his mouth in Panel 3 if there’s no one else in the room? LOL

    1. DarkoNeko

      Habit.

    2. MiaKitty

      Maybe Jacob is in the shared bath?

      Or Ethan could be worried that he’ll return from wherever he is any second.

      1. Nono

        Jacob sharing a bath with other dudes.

        SHIPPING INTENSIFIES

  42. Adam Black

    wow. I just noticed the poster in Ethan’s door.

    I think My ex had the identical one.
    ( Sadly , He killed himself only 2.5 months before Transformers1 came out.

    He loved transformers so much, he got a degree in Electronic Engineering and Robotics ( and designed his own controller board )

    He had a very juvenile sense of humor, so Michael Bays version: would have loved it…

    Theres a significant chance he’d be alive ,if it came out a few months earlier.
    He wanted to build transformers. )

    1. Black Bumblebee

      Oh, wow. Sorry to hear that. I know that was a while back, but my prayers are with you for whatever that’s worth.

      1. Adam Black

        Thanks.
        I probably only the notice the specific poster because of the month.

        http://web.archive.org/web/20070919014921/http://www.gammaburst.net/robotics/index.html

    2. Leorale

      So sorry to hear about your loss. Thinking of you in internet land <3

      1. Adam Black

        thanks.

        I just discovered his dad just died.

        Not sure his parents ever forgive me ( for outing him at the funeral ) .

        I signed the guestbook with compassionate words, and reminded them I exist.

        I guess If I was ever one to shy away from social-awkwardness, I wouldnt have told every one we were lovers ( after I was told not to )

  43. Bagge

    Again Joyce impresses me by doing the right thing – she actively takes steps to stay friends with Ethan and leave the choice to come out to him. They can still hang out, follow each other to class, watch boy smut… NO, BAD THOUGHT.

    How long time does it take to go between the boys and girls dorm by the way? Is it just different floors?

    1. TheStranger

      I dunno about IU, but almost 20 years ago my dorm at Mizzou was co-ed, and it was basically men’s wing/women’s wing. Walk down the hall and you go from outie land to innie land.

      You weren’t supposed to be in a member of the opposite sex’s room without either a chaperone or the door open, and I remember copious Jack Chick tracts “accidentally” left behind on the bus warning Mizzou students that they were all damned to hell because of the mixing of the sexes, but (at least in that dorm) the men and women didn’t have much more than a hallway separating them.

    2. John

      I’ve never been to IU, much less Read Hall, but from what I gather from the Internet and the comic, Read is X-shaped, with four wings (Clark, Landes, Beck, and Curry) connected through a central lobby, and gender-segregated by wing, with ladies in Clark and Landes Wings and guys in Beck and Curry.

      The central cast ladies live on the 3rd floor of Clark Wing, while the guys are on the 3rd floor of Beck Wing, just a short stroll away. IIRC, the cafeteria we usually see them in is in Landes Wing.

      1. No Name

        What, not Curry? Think of all the pun potential!!

        Oh. Right.

  44. DarkoNeko

    Not much to say today.

  45. Darwin

    Embrace the dude smut, Joyce! Embrace!

  46. E_Squared

    I cannot believe the level of civility in the comments section…I just…is this for real? Are there actually places on the internet where people are nice?
    A friend recently introduced me to these comics, but I’ve been afraid to even look at the comments because the internet.

    1. Disloyal Subject

      Yup. Accountability does that sometimes; there’s nothing to gain from being an asshole, and there aren’t enough of us for an asshole to go unnoticed or few enough for them to dominate.

      1. Incomitatus

        I would rather be the dominate asshole on a small forum than second on YouTube!

        *ahem* Forgive me, channeling my inner Caesar for a moment. Everyone is very nice here. I feel that if there could be tea and cookies, there would be tea and cookies.

        1. StClair

          I thought that was Milton, Paradise Lost, anyway.

        2. Incomitatus

          “I would rather be first here than second in Rome,” was a quote from Caesar referring to some poor little village, according to Plutarch.

        3. Leorale

          Plus Willis himself moderates the comments to quickly remove anything really terrible from this space. I don’t know how often he has to use his IP-ban-hammer, but I imagine that it’s something of a deterrent as well.

        4. Leorale

          PS: if you like writing stories and/or text-based browser games, another nice-people place on the internet is . There are still nice people.

    2. heavvymetalqueen

      Just don’t be around when the strip is about Becky

      1. Kamino Neko

        Or Roz.

    3. timemonkey

      Our asshole levels vary depending on the subject but Willis puts a stop to anything going too far. Pretty much we’ve been conditioned to stay within the boundries.

    4. Aris Katsaris

      It’s always about the moderation. Strong moderation means civility, weak moderation means rudeness. I don’t always like Willis’ moderating decisions (I’m sure he’s banned me and deleted my posts on occassion) but I like that the moderation exists.

    5. Bagge

      I’m so glad that’s the impression we make. Come and help us make this place awesome.

    6. Adam Black

      Depends, There used to fever pitch of white hot hatred aimed at Danny ( character ) for a couple of years.

      I thought it had more than the passing of of misdirected misogyny, which is ironic considering hes male , and many of his detractors werent.

      That thankfully seemed to evaporate once the big reveal that he’s BI.

      I’m not sure the fandom appreciated that in real life, they would be discriminating against a bi-dude for being for more sensitive; and make it less likely he would feel safe to come out.

      Nor that Patriarchy is a system oppressions and privileges and gender-codes policed by both and for both genders.

      lately the weird attacks has been on Becky.

      Sure, she can be a rude, crude brassy lesbian ; A female walky with more balls and less self-awareness. Sooner or later she will really put her foot in her mouth, But that day has not come.

      She has beautifully and gracefully left the closet with an infectious enthusiam its hard not to share.

      Willis you have done a wonderfully inspiring story with Becky.

      Many of Beckys detractors wanted to shove her back in the closet to “protect joyce’s feelings”.

      Thats a real terrible thing to say to a young gay — to place the burden of another’s mental health on them ( due to their own internalized bigotry ) to hide who and what they are. People stay in the closet for decades over that.

      IRL Beckys Unbridled parade of rainbows, glitter, Lillith fairs(?) gets to last 6 weeks without negative comments.

      Willis , you ought to work a Pride-parade into the story-line

  47. mokia

    How long can the closet references last? Let’s find out!

    1. Leorale

      As long as Ethan’s in one! (Transparent though it may be.)

  48. SKRen

    … will Joyce turn out to be a hardcore Fujoshi? Only time will tell.

    1. DarkoNeko

      Not any more than QC’s Hannelore is, I’d guess.

      1. Roborat

        Or Ruby from Sticky Dilly Buns.

  49. Smiling Cat

    Joyce, you searched out a peener on the interwebs for visual reference. Don’t tell me you don’t know about dude smut.

    1. Disloyal Subject

      She could easily have managed to stick to strictly scientific material, perhaps through clinical terminology…

      1. Smiling Cat

        I chuckle at the thought of her relying on scientific material.

        1. DarkoNeko

          She checked the Wikipedia article.

  50. maxyai

    I vote for the next Slipshine to be Joyce and a computer and dude smut. Wait, that’s not one of the choices?

    1. Freezer

      DOA: Joyce Dials God.

      1. Renadt

        EPIC! +15 internets!

      2. cybik

        Or is it “Joyce’s dialed up herself to God”?

      3. Taigan

        DOA: Joyce Cums to Jesus

  51. Black Bumblebee

    I’m more upset to see a Michael Bay Prime poster on his closet. Surely he’d be more of an IDW TF fan…?

    1. timemonkey

      Amber’s the big Transformers fan in this universe, makes sense for Ethan to be more mainstream.

  52. nothri

    I just came back from a convention in support of alternative lifestyles (including homosexuality). This comic is kind of awesome and hilarious to come home to.

  53. heavvymetalqueen

    I am all for Ethan being the catalyst of Joyce’s sexual awakening in a much less traumatic way that she thought he’d be. With the dudesmut.

  54. CarlaGriffin

    Oh no, Joyce knows about the dude smut! Nothing can stop her now!

    1. Mr. Morningstar

      Wait until she discovers rule 34

      1. Heavensrun

        Dexter/Monkey Master slash, here we come!

      2. Tacos

        What’d happen once she discovers rule 63?

  55. DarkoNeko

    Y’know, Joyce probably went to see Ethan because she couldn’t bear to stay alone just after having been reminded of her trauma.

  56. Freezer

    “Dude Smut” has overwritten “gay porn” and “yaoi” in my brain.

  57. OnyxIdol

    Yes Joyce, you should educate yourself on the topic, haha.

  58. Rebecca from the Lagoon

    I expect that looking at “dude smut” is a lot like looking at a fire hose catalogue.

  59. CianM1301

    If you only knew the power of the Dark Side, Joyce.

  60. Taigan

    How did Joyce Google a bunch of penis images to become the Whiteboard DingDong Bandit and NOT find out about dude smut?

    1. CianM1301

      Wikipedia.

  61. Deanatay

    Joyce: come find me on the Internet! We can be such good friends. I’ll help to ease all of your uncomfortable cravings, without making you feel at all dirty or ashamed! Don’t be afraid.

    All my love,
    Dude Smut

  62. Aeron

    Slipshine: Joyce does a dude smut binge (On Ethan’s laptop).

  63. Bagge

    I’m sad that Joyce missed this opportunity to talk to Becky about the assault, but I’m glad Ethan has become a way for her to deal with the trauma.

    1. timemonkey

      Joyce is already surrounded by people she could talk to about it, Becky would be no different. Less likely in fact since she’d have to relive the entire incident.

      1. Bagge

        True, and Joyce has chosen Ethan, and to a lesser extent Dorothy and Sarah – all excellent choices. But I think it would be very healthy for her and for her relationship with Becky if she told Becky as well.

        Joyce has a tendency to keep things under wraps even when they are eating her, and up until four weeks ago Becky was the one person she could share EVERYTHING with. I think she would benefit from reestablishing that trust (I mean – it’s not like Becky has not shared a fundamental, life changing, potentially embarrassing and damaging secret with her or anything).

        1. Nono

          Different issues, however. For Becky, the secret was liberating, it was like cutting off a chain. For Joyce, it would be like reliving putting it on.

        2. Bagge

          Unfortunately she is already reliving it – two times within the last two days.

          But yeah, the parallel is not perfect and I may very well be wrong.

        3. Mr. Morningstar

          To be fair, she has a few friends who already know about it if she wants to talk about it.

          I imagine it’s easier to talk to someone who is already familiar with the situation then with someone who isn’t should she decide to.

  64. overdosed

    im guessing by smut they mean porn and joyce looks intrested in it but cant admit becuase you know its kinda frowned upon by her family wich is why she calls it smut

    1. Bagge

      More to the point, it is frowned upon by herself. The whole “sexual desire” thing is awfully confusing right now.

      1. overdosed

        yeah and plus with becky being open about her sexuality might be changing joyces outlook as well btw i misspelt my e mail thats why my gravatar was different

  65. B.D

    And then she convinces Ethan to dress as Sherlock for Halloween… For “research”. Or possible to test a “theory” based on “evidence”.

  66. Black

    Man, Ethan is so far in the closet metaphorically that I’m surprised he’s not LITERALLY living in the closet in his dorm.

  67. Marc in MN

    This makes me think of that Family Guy when the guys tell Guagmire about internet porn and he’s never heard of it before.

    Are we going to see Joyce in a couple weeks with one arm that is noticeably more muscular than the other one? 😉

  68. Venn

    How was this comic titled ‘Forthright’ and not ‘Dude Smut’?

  69. Tacos

    Ethan should not have given her such knowledge yet. Joyce might go on a dude smut binge that’ll put Ethan’s 4 hour one to shame.

  70. Skai Cyan

    Ethan, stop binging on dude smut like a plebeian. Private Window/Incognito man, it’s self cleaning. Besides, they you don’t have to do a “walk of shame” and delete things individually.

  71. Chris

    Joyce is the cutest she has ever been right now.

  72. Doh

    I’ve been reading this comic for far too long to have just now realized that part of Ethan’s love of Transformers stems from the fact that he identifies with robots being in “disguise”.

  73. man jean

    my first read-through of this left me in the dislike-zone for ethan. re-reading this, he’s honestly pretty ok

  74. batman

    same ethan, same, though im not ashamed of the gay part but ashamed of the cycle of so much porn

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