*eye-twitch* Damn New Coke references. New Coke focus tested great, they just neglected to account for removing the old product. And Coke Classic came back in like six months.
Shade
Well of course. Would be kind of silly to release a product without focus testing it first, even more so to do so if it failed said testing.
David T. Shaw
Actually, they did focus test it.
If I remember correctly (like that is going to happen) they only tested New Coke with a few drops on the tongue, not a full glass.
Moral: Science means doing more than one type of test.
Ryek Hvek
Coke Classic came back with corn syrup sweetener instead of real sugar, and the New Coke served as misdirection to cover up the change.
One more thing to blame on Bill Cosby.
David T. Shaw
Now there’s a conspiracy theory that I can appreciate.
Ryek Hvek
so we now get “real” Coke when the Kosher-for-Passover version (no corn syrup allowed) hits grocery shelves, or we can spring a buck for a 12 oz bottle produced in Mexico, where real cane sugar costs less than the corn syrup crud used in American Coca-Cola
Roborat
Or buy it in Canada.
Ryek Hvek
I’m waiting for the Organic Coca-Cola to appear (I just now made that up) since food mfrs figured out that a few pennies spent on organic cane sugar and seasonings lets them turn a Kosher-for-Passover product into an Organic product, ready to sell the year round, and with a higher price, too.
Rob of Ages
^ I believe that’s actually a thing called “Coca-Cola Life” but I could be mistaken. It has a green label. We’ve been getting it in Canada for awhile, but I remember seeing it before that in the UK imports sections of some grocery stores.
It’s like root beer. It sassafras (what used to be it’s main incredient) is illegal in the US, so you have to import it from elsewhere (often under its old name sasparilla) if you want the real taste. And it is soooo worth it. Especially if it’s German.
N0083rP00F
^ That green label stuff – bought it by accident. Took one swig and wondered what they hell it was I was drinking? This from someone who likes Brio and is not Italian. It took a couple of months and some experimentation to find something it could mix with and not taste god-awful.
Roborat
I tried that green label stuff when it came out in Canada. It is awful, I don’t understand how anyone can drink it.
Classic coke was using corn sweetener a long time before New Coke. It has to do with trade protectionism on sugar that artificially drive up the cost of sugar in the U.S.
Which is why Coke in many foreign countries still use sugar.
Real sugar variants of colas in the U.S. are starting to emerge as premium brands.
Ryek Hvek
It was in late 1984 that the announcements of an impending changeover was made by both Pepsi and Coke, but yes, bottlers had been gradually introducing corn syrup for a few years, based on the sugar prices caused by the tariffs that allowed the US to defeat the Godless Commies of Cuba – oh wait, they didn’t :-p
JetstreamGW
That’s asinine. They’d already been transitioning to corn syrup. People hadn’t noticed before is all.
Coke made a genuine mistake. Why is that so hard to believe? 😛
Actually New Danny™ is a hipster so he’s probably made with stevia extract
AndroidDreams
New danny thinks hes hipster, hes made from hemp
Tacos
Then what was Danny Classic™ made with? Real sugar? High fructose corn syrup?
MM
He’s from Indiana. Of course there was corn involved.
Needfuldoer
The original Danny recipe called for cane sugar. The whole New Danny / Danny Classic™ thing is just a coverup for their switch to cheaper HFCS. (It also gives the brand a shot in the arm.)
Passchendaele
New Danny™ has 2 whole stevia leaves per serving, and is about 20 servings. Since anything 5 or less calories/freak-outs is rounded to 0, he’s basically water/lacks panic
Good job not buying into the internet woo peddlers’ myths about a substance that has been around for almost 40 years, then!
Jon Rich
Which substance is that?
vlademir1
Clearly aspartame. There is currently a limited backlash that has been spreading from an email hoax (cf Snopes here). There have been some legit questions about the safety of aspartame over the years, just as there were regarding saccharin, but those have long since been well and truly put to bed at this point. Even cyclamate has essentially shown itself safe despite remaining banned in the US.
Kristen
True, artificial sweeteners have shown themselves to be generally safe (and definitely there are no reasons to freak out about them causing cancer). However, there are still questions about their role in obesity and insulin regulation and about their effects on gut microbiota. The situation seems to be more complicated than we know yet. Sorry, this is one of my research areas.
(see ‘Low-Dose Aspartame Consumption Differentially Affects Gut Microbiota-Host Metabolic Interactions in the Diet-Induced Obese Rat’ in Plos One for more)
Kryss LaBryn
Also it tastes gross.
thejeff
Best approach seems to be avoiding the kinds of things they put artificial sweeteners in, at least in quantity.
Save the overly sweet things for occasional treats, not regular diet.
vlademir1
@Kristen I specifically chose not to mention all that, because it often gets quickly into discussion on biological pathways that goes over most peoples heads (mine included at the upper end). Sort of like the really in depth discussions of why fruit juices are little to no better than soda and those of the effects of glyphosate on gut bacteria. I’ll quit there before I melt my own brain.
@Kryss LaBryn That I can definitely agree with.
@thejeff That. Hell, generally just avoiding anything heavily processed (refined sugars or their alternatives, grain starch derivatives, etc) when it can be avoided does wonders in my own experience.
zathael
Unless you’re phenylketonuric. In which case it is distilled brain poison.
YEAH, he’s been pretty awful to his so-called best friend. Danny needed support and Joe… wasn’t it. :C
(I say that as someone eagerly looking forward to Joe Character Development™ though!)
miados
well a lot of school before college friends are only friends with you because you are there. once you get mobility you start to get ones more based on enjoyment and once you can move to different locals thats even more so the case. at least i think so.
CoMa
I think that probably depends on the person?
I mean, I’ve met a LOT of great people during college, but with changing courses, those were more or less acquaintances and not friendships (though there were a few I was closer with, and one whom I also worked together with on irregular basis whom I also consider a friend). We mostly basically talked because of group work, we needed to, or just for exchange.
BUT: My dearest friends I’ve known from two different schools, three dating back to the years 2000-2002 (three sisters), and the other two I got friends with around ten years ago in a different school (same class) – it also helped that we learned for our finals together as a group and we all started studying the same subjects with slight variations (which is a long thing of the past). And we established, while still sharing courses, to meet up once every week for cooking, eating, talking and watching stuff. We had small breaks in between – but we’re very consistent in meeting up and we’re very close, although we also have veeery different personalities. What keeps us together is that we’re very considerate of each other and are basically our own little additional family.
But I also may be a very special case, I dunno.
Binky
My close friends are all from school. I was at uni for four years and only made 1 actual friend there (and a bunch of acquaintances) but I haven’t spoken to them in a long time. I still regularly chat and meet up with my old friends who live five hours away from me .
I think I was just lucky that my school has these people in it.
CoMa
Just like me. Couldn’t imagine how my life’d have developed without my friends from school (it’d have probably stayed very bleak, or I’d have developed into a very pessimistic person).
thejeff
I’m only still in touch with one person from high school, but a fairly large circle of people from college (or met through people from college).
None I think from college classes, but from other stuff. The core being tied to an RPG group.
CoMa
Interesting! And awesome – I wish we had something of an RPG group at college, I’d have definitely joined it. But as it went, we only had film- or pub-meet-ups, and you never got to talk with anyone about more than university-related stuff.
MutantSentry
Maybe Joe can get a harmonika and back up Danny musically.
The ‘Danny Scale’ for me can’t really operate upon a line, perhaps within a triangle, since which type of Danny that Joe is acting as, and to which extent, seems to be shifting.
I like this system. Are the three points of Danny the three basic interpretations of Danny’s character from the comments section: Noble, Awful, Good Egg.
My cats were like this, in that one calms down as soon as the other starts complaining. (She’s like, “Cool, my pal is taking care of things, I’m gonna nap.”) It’s a good deal.
(My point is, this is another way their old friendship worked for Joe. He could outsource any anxiety or emotion, because he hates experiencing anxiety or emotion himself but knew Danny would pick up the slack. New Danny won’t be so useful for that — good job, New Danny.)
244 thoughts on “Freaking-out one”
Ana Chronistic
New Danny™ has fewer
caloriesfreak-outsbutts
the focus groups for this are gonna be awful, but don’t worry they’ll be bringing back Danny Classic™ in a few years
JetstreamGW
*eye-twitch* Damn New Coke references. New Coke focus tested great, they just neglected to account for removing the old product. And Coke Classic came back in like six months.
Shade
Well of course. Would be kind of silly to release a product without focus testing it first, even more so to do so if it failed said testing.
David T. Shaw
Actually, they did focus test it.
If I remember correctly (like that is going to happen) they only tested New Coke with a few drops on the tongue, not a full glass.
Moral: Science means doing more than one type of test.
Ryek Hvek
Coke Classic came back with corn syrup sweetener instead of real sugar, and the New Coke served as misdirection to cover up the change.
One more thing to blame on Bill Cosby.
David T. Shaw
Now there’s a conspiracy theory that I can appreciate.
Ryek Hvek
so we now get “real” Coke when the Kosher-for-Passover version (no corn syrup allowed) hits grocery shelves, or we can spring a buck for a 12 oz bottle produced in Mexico, where real cane sugar costs less than the corn syrup crud used in American Coca-Cola
Roborat
Or buy it in Canada.
Ryek Hvek
I’m waiting for the Organic Coca-Cola to appear (I just now made that up) since food mfrs figured out that a few pennies spent on organic cane sugar and seasonings lets them turn a Kosher-for-Passover product into an Organic product, ready to sell the year round, and with a higher price, too.
Rob of Ages
^ I believe that’s actually a thing called “Coca-Cola Life” but I could be mistaken. It has a green label. We’ve been getting it in Canada for awhile, but I remember seeing it before that in the UK imports sections of some grocery stores.
Rukduk
It’s like root beer. It sassafras (what used to be it’s main incredient) is illegal in the US, so you have to import it from elsewhere (often under its old name sasparilla) if you want the real taste. And it is soooo worth it. Especially if it’s German.
N0083rP00F
^ That green label stuff – bought it by accident. Took one swig and wondered what they hell it was I was drinking? This from someone who likes Brio and is not Italian. It took a couple of months and some experimentation to find something it could mix with and not taste god-awful.
Roborat
I tried that green label stuff when it came out in Canada. It is awful, I don’t understand how anyone can drink it.
Shawn Levasseur
Classic coke was using corn sweetener a long time before New Coke. It has to do with trade protectionism on sugar that artificially drive up the cost of sugar in the U.S.
Which is why Coke in many foreign countries still use sugar.
Real sugar variants of colas in the U.S. are starting to emerge as premium brands.
Ryek Hvek
It was in late 1984 that the announcements of an impending changeover was made by both Pepsi and Coke, but yes, bottlers had been gradually introducing corn syrup for a few years, based on the sugar prices caused by the tariffs that allowed the US to defeat the Godless Commies of Cuba – oh wait, they didn’t :-p
JetstreamGW
That’s asinine. They’d already been transitioning to corn syrup. People hadn’t noticed before is all.
Coke made a genuine mistake. Why is that so hard to believe? 😛
Pablo360
New Danny™ is made with aspartame instead of sugar, because when I think healthy, I think aspartame
Pablo360
Actually New Danny™ is a hipster so he’s probably made with stevia extract
AndroidDreams
New danny thinks hes hipster, hes made from hemp
Tacos
Then what was Danny Classic™ made with? Real sugar? High fructose corn syrup?
MM
He’s from Indiana. Of course there was corn involved.
Needfuldoer
The original Danny recipe called for cane sugar. The whole New Danny / Danny Classic™ thing is just a coverup for their switch to cheaper HFCS. (It also gives the brand a shot in the arm.)
Passchendaele
New Danny™ has 2 whole stevia leaves per serving, and is about 20 servings. Since anything 5 or less calories/freak-outs is rounded to 0, he’s basically water/lacks panic
zoelogical
i theorize new danny is made with straightup honey to save the bees
iforgetwhatiputhere
Good job not buying into the internet woo peddlers’ myths about a substance that has been around for almost 40 years, then!
Jon Rich
Which substance is that?
vlademir1
Clearly aspartame. There is currently a limited backlash that has been spreading from an email hoax (cf Snopes here). There have been some legit questions about the safety of aspartame over the years, just as there were regarding saccharin, but those have long since been well and truly put to bed at this point. Even cyclamate has essentially shown itself safe despite remaining banned in the US.
Kristen
True, artificial sweeteners have shown themselves to be generally safe (and definitely there are no reasons to freak out about them causing cancer). However, there are still questions about their role in obesity and insulin regulation and about their effects on gut microbiota. The situation seems to be more complicated than we know yet. Sorry, this is one of my research areas.
(see ‘Low-Dose Aspartame Consumption Differentially Affects Gut Microbiota-Host Metabolic Interactions in the Diet-Induced Obese Rat’ in Plos One for more)
Kryss LaBryn
Also it tastes gross.
thejeff
Best approach seems to be avoiding the kinds of things they put artificial sweeteners in, at least in quantity.
Save the overly sweet things for occasional treats, not regular diet.
vlademir1
@Kristen I specifically chose not to mention all that, because it often gets quickly into discussion on biological pathways that goes over most peoples heads (mine included at the upper end). Sort of like the really in depth discussions of why fruit juices are little to no better than soda and those of the effects of glyphosate on gut bacteria. I’ll quit there before I melt my own brain.
@Kryss LaBryn That I can definitely agree with.
@thejeff That. Hell, generally just avoiding anything heavily processed (refined sugars or their alternatives, grain starch derivatives, etc) when it can be avoided does wonders in my own experience.
zathael
Unless you’re phenylketonuric. In which case it is distilled brain poison.
Danni
New Danny, made with splenda.
butts
ssshhh it’s okay nobody can hurt you now joe
danny’s here
it’s all gonna be OK
Flakky
He’s about to Danny it up.
Deanatay
He’s Joe-nulerable.
Foxhack
Danny’s one hell of a buddy.
SUGauthor
And Joe’s really not, I hope he realizes that soon.
Doki
YEAH, he’s been pretty awful to his so-called best friend. Danny needed support and Joe… wasn’t it. :C
(I say that as someone eagerly looking forward to Joe Character Development™ though!)
miados
well a lot of school before college friends are only friends with you because you are there. once you get mobility you start to get ones more based on enjoyment and once you can move to different locals thats even more so the case. at least i think so.
CoMa
I think that probably depends on the person?
I mean, I’ve met a LOT of great people during college, but with changing courses, those were more or less acquaintances and not friendships (though there were a few I was closer with, and one whom I also worked together with on irregular basis whom I also consider a friend). We mostly basically talked because of group work, we needed to, or just for exchange.
BUT: My dearest friends I’ve known from two different schools, three dating back to the years 2000-2002 (three sisters), and the other two I got friends with around ten years ago in a different school (same class) – it also helped that we learned for our finals together as a group and we all started studying the same subjects with slight variations (which is a long thing of the past). And we established, while still sharing courses, to meet up once every week for cooking, eating, talking and watching stuff. We had small breaks in between – but we’re very consistent in meeting up and we’re very close, although we also have veeery different personalities. What keeps us together is that we’re very considerate of each other and are basically our own little additional family.
But I also may be a very special case, I dunno.
Binky
My close friends are all from school. I was at uni for four years and only made 1 actual friend there (and a bunch of acquaintances) but I haven’t spoken to them in a long time. I still regularly chat and meet up with my old friends who live five hours away from me .
I think I was just lucky that my school has these people in it.
CoMa
Just like me. Couldn’t imagine how my life’d have developed without my friends from school (it’d have probably stayed very bleak, or I’d have developed into a very pessimistic person).
thejeff
I’m only still in touch with one person from high school, but a fairly large circle of people from college (or met through people from college).
None I think from college classes, but from other stuff. The core being tied to an RPG group.
CoMa
Interesting! And awesome – I wish we had something of an RPG group at college, I’d have definitely joined it. But as it went, we only had film- or pub-meet-ups, and you never got to talk with anyone about more than university-related stuff.
MutantSentry
Maybe Joe can get a harmonika and back up Danny musically.
AnvilPro
Bros
Kernanator
It’s almost like people have different reactions based on context or something.
KPG
Tough not getting emotional support when you want/need it, isn’t it Joe?
Nono
Joe once mused that when he was with Jacob, he was the Danny.
Now he realizes that now he’s the Danny everywhere.
Except he’s not even a good Danny, he’s maybe a 0.4 Danny at best.
Orion Fury
The ‘Danny Scale’ for me can’t really operate upon a line, perhaps within a triangle, since which type of Danny that Joe is acting as, and to which extent, seems to be shifting.
Rowen Morland
I like this system. Are the three points of Danny the three basic interpretations of Danny’s character from the comments section: Noble, Awful, Good Egg.
missilentmurmur
It is an interesting observation. Sheds light on why they became friends in the first place.
AndroidDreams
STAY TUNED, FOR MORE,
REAL LIFE DRAMA, REAL LIFE CONSEQUENCES!
miados
now in comic form so there is no chance of you being caught in the cross fire. all for your own safety
Cephalo the Pod
Why is this part of Chapter 1 of Book 8?
JessWitt
Huh, this again. This seems to happen once in a while with every last chapter.
Cephalo the Pod
And it’s fixed.
Passchendaele
LET THE ARM WHIRLING BEGIN.
foamy
They make inflatable figures to do that for us these days. Truly we live in a decadent, degenerate age 🙁
Wendy
Ah, Danny. With great hipsterdom comes great responsibility.
Stephen Bierce
FREAK OUT! Le Freak! So Chic! FREAK OUT!
timemonkey
OHHHHH THAT’S WHAT THE LYRICS ARE! I’ve been mishearing them for years!
Larkle
Joe: Danny save me!
Danny: *sigh* Fine, but only a little bit.
Deanatay
‘All the Joes will look up and shout “Save us!”… and I’ll look down and whisper “*sigh* Fine.”‘
Danny, as Rorschach
Leorale
My cats were like this, in that one calms down as soon as the other starts complaining. (She’s like, “Cool, my pal is taking care of things, I’m gonna nap.”) It’s a good deal.
Leorale
(My point is, this is another way their old friendship worked for Joe. He could outsource any anxiety or emotion, because he hates experiencing anxiety or emotion himself but knew Danny would pick up the slack. New Danny won’t be so useful for that — good job, New Danny.)
Goblin Scribe
This is a very thoughtful interpretation!
Jessie
That is a really great point! I love it!
Black
Could be worse, Joe; one of them could decide to pepper spray you for your list!
Abel Undercity
It may yet happen.
Opus the Poet
So where is the real Danny tied up?