Nah it didn’t blow a few fuses. It blew an entire freaking portion of her mind into oblivion and the rest into a catatonic state that can only be repaired via being poked vigorously with a stick.
Why would people have trouble feeling empathy for her? First a class full of lesbians, then her first date is with a pervert, now it turns out the only seemingly sane person she’s met so far is a heathen. What a poor, sheltered, ignorant, psychotic…. I withdraw my question…
That’s the only definition of the word I know. Which are you using? This sounds like some kind of religious jargon, and if I said it to the wrong group of people they would assume I was referring to followers of Thor. As such, details would be appreciated.
to be fair I mostly hear Heathens (refering to Norse Reconstructionists) refer to themselves as Heathens. Usually its used to keep themselves separate. I will admit I haven’t meant many heathens so please don’t hurt me but I usually hear it as a way to put oneself above others. “I’m not Pagan I’m a Heathen” though there is one person in the pagan group on my Campus who calls herself a Heathen simply as a way to say quickly which subgroup she is in, in the same way my friend says she is a wiccan instead of saying “I’m a Duotheist who practices magick.”
Heathendom isn’t restricted to only Norse Mythology, as Gangler already (dammit) has pointed out.
As long as you don’t follow the Bible, you’re a ‘Heathen’.
Magnus369
So what’s it called you don’t follow the “One True Dictionary”? Do the Wikites fight with the Websterians? Are the Encyclogians in an endless war against the Thesaurians? (yes, I know… a thesaurus isn’t a dictionary, but still… it sounded funnier in my head)
DarkVeghetta
All bow to the same queen. Or some transient president if you’re in the US.
But seriously, there IS a body that sets these things into code/law. I’m not sure of their names for U.K. or US, but I did know my own country’s version… um… before I promptly forgot it that is. Point is it’s there, it exists and lords over grammar, pushing against current trends and only budging ever so slightly under great pressure.
Semysane
Methinks you’re getting the definitions of “heathen” and “pagan” mixed up.
Plasma Mongoose
I always figured that the definition of a heathen is someone who doesn’t follow the same religion as you.
Seraph
It is. “Pagan” has actual (if broad – that is to say, not limited to one pantheon) meaning; “heathen” is anyone who isn’t you.
DarkVeghetta
‘heathen’ would imply some level of distaste for sed group, while ‘pagan’ is the more neutral term. I’ve also never seen heathen being used in any history class except when discussing religious biases, while pagan is a common descriptor for various religions not endemic to your culture.
Lokitsu
The words pagan and heathen are pretty much interchangeable.
I don’t care that the neo-pagans say different. They’re just a bunch of heathens anyways.
Dangerously violent and self-righteous? Not my definition of interesting. But I grew up in rural Georgia where you can find that on any block so maybe I’m just used to it.
Tristan J
Well, granted it helps if you also are/know someone very smart, so you can subtley trip them over their own beliefs without outright pissing them off. It’s like a game!
knowwonattawl
I think you and I have different definitions of the word “like”.
Tristan J
I’ve lived with crazy arseholes all my life, I had to find some way to deal with it.
This is her first experience with people who aren’t religious. As of yet, she hasn’t actually handled herself that poorly. A lot of people approach beliefs that are different from theirs with hate or immediately dismiss those who disagree, and Joyce hasn’t done that. She went on a date with Joe even though he was Jewish. Sure, she wanted to eventually convert him to Christ, but she didn’t think he was a terrible person or completely dismiss him because he wasn’t Christian. She may not handle the race thing perfectly, but she’s curious and interested, not hateful or fearful. She seems like a nice enough person, just sheltered and ignorant to the ways of the world.
Do you really believe that? Religion and politics are touchy subjects, but we go through every day of our lives trying to convert people to our brand of crazy. Our favorite foods, movies, music. Our opinions on drugs, relationships, families, jobs, weather. The fact that she’s not dismissing them means that she might take the chance to learn more about them and expand her world, whereas dismissing them means she’d remain ignorant and sheltered forever.
ShadeTail
Speaking for myself, *I* really believe that. I’m not busy trying to convert anyone to anything. My hobbies, clothes, food tastes, etc? Mine alone, and I don’t care that other people have different preferences. Religion? Even more so.
I’m happy to live and let live, so if you can’t handle me having different tastes, then at least have the decency to leave me alone.
Now, wanting to just understand rather than preach? That I would be perfectly fine with. But you don’t really think that someone like Joyce would be interested in that, do you?
I like you. Out of all the comments (with the exception of two or three others) you’re one of the few whose managed to actually look at the character Joyce with out putting on your SELFRIGHTEOUS tinted classes as well as not openly hating her just because she was sheltered into a narrow line of belief and thought.
Lanny
OH DEAR GOD WHY DID I GET THAT FAAAAAAAACE! -_- freaking gravatar
I imagine it’s probably an overlay of the world as it would normally look, but constructed out of a mosaic of images of Dorothy from every time he’s encountered her.
I choose to believe that since we can’t see Joe in the previous panel that Joyce’s reaction is not to what Dorothy said, but rather that her ass just got grabbed. The facial expression still works for my version.
Joyce and Mike spent an entire evening beating the every loving shit out of Joe. Do you really think he’s that stupid or that much of a masochist to pinch the ass of a nut ball like Joyce? I would have liked to have though Joe had some basic self-preservation instincts.
Actually, his Joe instincts would probably urge him not to grab her ass. His goal is not random harassment, but actual Joeing opportunities. Grabbing Joyce’s ass would not only be pointless in this regard, but would actually kill future Joeing opportunities with any woman there to witness the scene – and Joyce would definitely make one (and rightly so).
Besides, his Joeing instincts seem to have been directed at Roz for the moment. To his credit, Joe is more interested in finding a woman who’s actually interested in Joeing than in making some sort of “conquest”.
236 thoughts on “Gasp”
Chrisby
DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN
knowwonattawl
That was my first thought too.
Romanticide
that is exactly the sound I made XD
Rodrigo
Actually, it also could be a glass shattering sound!
That guy
I heard a record screech like in cartoons
Lunchbox
If Billie wanted a violent, nerd-rage, and possibly satanic murder story to cover for Daisy, this is it.
david with a small d
Totally my reaction as well! And then I look down and see this first comment. Win!
Darkflame
you need this;
http://www.dramabutton.com/
Darkflame
come to think of it…where did that sound come from anyway?
newllend
I was thinking a car screech
George
Joyce’s brain just blew a few fuses, I can tell.
Lan M.
Nah it didn’t blow a few fuses. It blew an entire freaking portion of her mind into oblivion and the rest into a catatonic state that can only be repaired via being poked vigorously with a stick.
sarpiedon
ehh, just play the Sound of Music. She’ll be fine.
Marc
sarpiedon, I don’t know who you are, but I love you with all the love a webcomic nerd can give.
Rodrigo
“How can she love satan and hate humanity? She don’t look a killer psicopath, innocent women rapist nor a baby eater!?”
DaveO
Innocent women rapist? She’s a lesbian too? *GASP!*
Coppermouth
Oh geez, here we go…
Jabberwocky
This comment improved 70% by your avatar.
Gabe
Half of these comments become hilarious if you read them with the persona of their avatar.
Rowen Morland
A quiet and unheard observation? 😉
Jen Aside
Predictable much?
captainswift
Joyce is broken. We need to buy a new Joyce.
wnderjif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwVA698Hx2g
lol..
ProtonCon
I’m starting to see how some people could hate Joyce.
knowwonattawl
Why would people have trouble feeling empathy for her? First a class full of lesbians, then her first date is with a pervert, now it turns out the only seemingly sane person she’s met so far is a heathen. What a poor, sheltered, ignorant, psychotic…. I withdraw my question…
Eposi
technically to be a heathen you would have to follow the Norse Pantheon, Odin, Thor, etc
gangler
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/heathens?show=0&t=1302154404
That’s the only definition of the word I know. Which are you using? This sounds like some kind of religious jargon, and if I said it to the wrong group of people they would assume I was referring to followers of Thor. As such, details would be appreciated.
Loki
In some neo-pagan circles heathen is used to refer to Norse pagans. So, yes, Eposi is speaking using a subculture-specific jargon.
gangler
Sweet! Called it!
Thanks for the info. That makes sense. Sometimes Pagan’s need a word to refer to “The other Pagans” I guess.
Lokitsu
“The other Pagans”.
Is that anything like “The other white meat?”
Lis
to be fair I mostly hear Heathens (refering to Norse Reconstructionists) refer to themselves as Heathens. Usually its used to keep themselves separate. I will admit I haven’t meant many heathens so please don’t hurt me but I usually hear it as a way to put oneself above others. “I’m not Pagan I’m a Heathen” though there is one person in the pagan group on my Campus who calls herself a Heathen simply as a way to say quickly which subgroup she is in, in the same way my friend says she is a wiccan instead of saying “I’m a Duotheist who practices magick.”
Osaru Sensei
Heathendom isn’t restricted to only Norse Mythology, as Gangler already (dammit) has pointed out.
As long as you don’t follow the Bible, you’re a ‘Heathen’.
Magnus369
So what’s it called you don’t follow the “One True Dictionary”? Do the Wikites fight with the Websterians? Are the Encyclogians in an endless war against the Thesaurians? (yes, I know… a thesaurus isn’t a dictionary, but still… it sounded funnier in my head)
DarkVeghetta
All bow to the same queen. Or some transient president if you’re in the US.
But seriously, there IS a body that sets these things into code/law. I’m not sure of their names for U.K. or US, but I did know my own country’s version… um… before I promptly forgot it that is. Point is it’s there, it exists and lords over grammar, pushing against current trends and only budging ever so slightly under great pressure.
Semysane
Methinks you’re getting the definitions of “heathen” and “pagan” mixed up.
Plasma Mongoose
I always figured that the definition of a heathen is someone who doesn’t follow the same religion as you.
Seraph
It is. “Pagan” has actual (if broad – that is to say, not limited to one pantheon) meaning; “heathen” is anyone who isn’t you.
DarkVeghetta
‘heathen’ would imply some level of distaste for sed group, while ‘pagan’ is the more neutral term. I’ve also never seen heathen being used in any history class except when discussing religious biases, while pagan is a common descriptor for various religions not endemic to your culture.
Lokitsu
The words pagan and heathen are pretty much interchangeable.
I don’t care that the neo-pagans say different. They’re just a bunch of heathens anyways.
moonchylde
*rimshot*
Tristan J
I have to be honest, I would like Joyce even if she was a real person. Though to be fair I like interesting people more than likable people.
knowwonattawl
Dangerously violent and self-righteous? Not my definition of interesting. But I grew up in rural Georgia where you can find that on any block so maybe I’m just used to it.
Tristan J
Well, granted it helps if you also are/know someone very smart, so you can subtley trip them over their own beliefs without outright pissing them off. It’s like a game!
knowwonattawl
I think you and I have different definitions of the word “like”.
Tristan J
I’ve lived with crazy arseholes all my life, I had to find some way to deal with it.
Michelle Alford
This is her first experience with people who aren’t religious. As of yet, she hasn’t actually handled herself that poorly. A lot of people approach beliefs that are different from theirs with hate or immediately dismiss those who disagree, and Joyce hasn’t done that. She went on a date with Joe even though he was Jewish. Sure, she wanted to eventually convert him to Christ, but she didn’t think he was a terrible person or completely dismiss him because he wasn’t Christian. She may not handle the race thing perfectly, but she’s curious and interested, not hateful or fearful. She seems like a nice enough person, just sheltered and ignorant to the ways of the world.
Forsaken1ne
I would rather have someone dismiss me and be done with them than have them try to convert me to their brand of crazy.
dchorror
As opposed to your own brand of crazy?
Michelle Alford
Do you really believe that? Religion and politics are touchy subjects, but we go through every day of our lives trying to convert people to our brand of crazy. Our favorite foods, movies, music. Our opinions on drugs, relationships, families, jobs, weather. The fact that she’s not dismissing them means that she might take the chance to learn more about them and expand her world, whereas dismissing them means she’d remain ignorant and sheltered forever.
ShadeTail
Speaking for myself, *I* really believe that. I’m not busy trying to convert anyone to anything. My hobbies, clothes, food tastes, etc? Mine alone, and I don’t care that other people have different preferences. Religion? Even more so.
I’m happy to live and let live, so if you can’t handle me having different tastes, then at least have the decency to leave me alone.
Now, wanting to just understand rather than preach? That I would be perfectly fine with. But you don’t really think that someone like Joyce would be interested in that, do you?
Lanny
I like you. Out of all the comments (with the exception of two or three others) you’re one of the few whose managed to actually look at the character Joyce with out putting on your SELFRIGHTEOUS tinted classes as well as not openly hating her just because she was sheltered into a narrow line of belief and thought.
Lanny
OH DEAR GOD WHY DID I GET THAT FAAAAAAAACE! -_- freaking gravatar
NCP19
My favorite part is actually Walky’s continued “oh crap it’s Dorothy” expression in the background.
themann1086
A million times THIS. I love that facial expression.
Also, long-time reader, first-time commenter 🙂
Black Drazon
Oh man, I just noticed, that’s great.
knowwonattawl
Yeah. I kind of wonder how the world looks through those vacant, awkward eyes he’s sporting. I want a comic in Walky-vision.
Haituri
Now that you mention it, I also want this
1Samildanach
Walky-goggles?
…
‘scuse me, got business plans to write up, mounds of cash to make :P.
Heavensrun
I imagine it’s probably an overlay of the world as it would normally look, but constructed out of a mosaic of images of Dorothy from every time he’s encountered her.
creativerealms
Walky’s expression when he’s around Dorothy is just weird.
skies
lolling forever.
Qaxis
So now Dorothy has shattered Joyce’s and Walky’s brains. She’s good at this.
Undrave
Obviously Dorothy is an eldritch abomination come to rob us all of our sanity :p
Romanticide
And we love her for that.
MM
I-Yale i-Yale! Ivy ftaghn!
Haituri
It’s called ‘an atheist’.
;D
knowwonattawl
I choose to believe that since we can’t see Joe in the previous panel that Joyce’s reaction is not to what Dorothy said, but rather that her ass just got grabbed. The facial expression still works for my version.
Shift
Joyce and Mike spent an entire evening beating the every loving shit out of Joe. Do you really think he’s that stupid or that much of a masochist to pinch the ass of a nut ball like Joyce? I would have liked to have though Joe had some basic self-preservation instincts.
knowwonattawl
But are they stronger than his Joe instincts?
George
We shall see.
Seraph
Actually, his Joe instincts would probably urge him not to grab her ass. His goal is not random harassment, but actual Joeing opportunities. Grabbing Joyce’s ass would not only be pointless in this regard, but would actually kill future Joeing opportunities with any woman there to witness the scene – and Joyce would definitely make one (and rightly so).
Besides, his Joeing instincts seem to have been directed at Roz for the moment. To his credit, Joe is more interested in finding a woman who’s actually interested in Joeing than in making some sort of “conquest”.
Jackson
He’s a Joetilitarian. The greatest Joe for the greatest number.