What’s the meaning of “secular marxist” here? It seems like a redundant term (secular bein superfluous), so I’m guessing it’s a meme, but one I missed.
It’s a thing that only really exists in the minds of fundamentalist christians. It’s one of their boogieman groups, who’ll corrupt you into the ways of the world if you aren’t vigilant enough.
I joined a boogieman group once. I found it disappointing – not enough men, not enough boogieing.
Psychie
At least part of that problem is solved the same way you make a tissue dance, you put a little boogie into it. Be the boogie you want to see in the group! Wanna be a boogieman? You just gotta boogie, man! If you boogie the men will come!
*plays “Hush, Hush, Hush (Here Comes The Boogieman)” cover by Abney Park on the hacked muzack”
Not entirely, Liberation Theology is somewhat popular in Southern America, which attempts to synthesize Christianity and Marxist economic theory. Marx himself was a proponent of secularism, but that doesn’t mean the body of Marxist work hasn’t attempted to grapple with the contradictions of organized religion. Marx himself did a good deal of this in his life, but in his time and circumstance, that being 1800s Europe, saw it as a suppressive super-cultural institution to labor rights. That doesn’t mean it always has to be, dialectical materialism, by its very nature, is a method of analysis flexible to the material conditions of a time and place.
In this case, however, I believe that Joyce is using it as a refutation of the indoctrinated strawman she grew up with to emphasize her break from her upbringing, so the actual meaning of the words has as just little literary rigor as conservatives so often use to denounce any remotely progressive political tendency.
Ymbrael
Just realized I used “Marx himself” to start two sentences in a row…
The lack of literary rigor is, in this moment, unfortunately coming from inside the brain.
Llamo
Marx’s parents were also Jews that had been forced to convert to Christianity by antisemitic laws. His dislike of the church also has personal elements.
The music I loved throughout middle school, high school, and most of college I can talk about with virtually nobody now as it was not only Christian rock, but the obscure stuff. There is no Steve Taylor discourse anywhere on the Internet.
It wasn’t Christian, and not really rock, but my experience is pretty much the same – hardly anyone I talked to back then, and even more so today, have even heard the names of many of the artists/bands I was in to.
Luckily, my tastes are pretty eclectic, so there’s almost always at least one or two exceptions. Usually not among my absolute favorites, but at least ones I enjoy listening to and keep on my extended playlist.
That’s not just a Christian rock thing. I’ve always been into esoteric music and I’ve gotten used to blank stares when I mention a band. In college was the only one in my dorm who was into punk. When alt.rock started to get popular and my friends started listening to REM and The Cure, I was into industrial and grunge. As I’ve aged it’s gotten worse. About ten years ago I discovered that about half my co-workers didn’t know The Beatles.
About five years ago in a meeting the lead asked us to take a minute to be silent. He said “Why are we so petrified of silence? Here, can you handle this?” We were silent for a minute, then he asked what we thought about. I said “I thought about my bills, my ex, my deadlines, and when I think I’m going to die. And I longed for the next distraction.” The silence was so awkward it could have tripped over its own feet while lying down. I said “What? You’re the one who quoted Alanis Morissette word-for-word. I was just continuing the song.”
It’s like this whenever I try to get to know people and start talking about music (to break the ice). However, not knowing the Beatles is actually wild.
I dunno, I can think of a lot of better feelings. A good stretch, a satisfying burp, the first drink of a fresh coke … and the second, and third, and all the rest of the can…
Honestly, most feelings that aren’t straight up negative are better in my experience.
When my future wife and I first met in meatspace, it was at a picnic organized by our online group. It was a pleasantly warm day, and someone said how nice it was “now that spring is here”. Roughly simultaneously, we broke into Tom Lehrer’s “Poisoning Pigeons In the Park” (I’d put a link in here, but my HTML-fu is weak).
I think that might have been the moment I truly fell in love with her…
Other hand, for songs I’ll lay a shiny quarter that nobody else here is familiar with, Emerson Lake & Palmer’s “Stones of Years” (from the “Tarkus” – concept side, I guess?) helped get me past the nightmares resulting from spending several years planning nuclear wars for the Air Force.
I mentioned the other day that I have a huge and eclectic music collection. It includes All The EL&P. Including “Space Gospel”, a bootleg pre-release version of EL&Po.
Do you mean you have songs in the sense that you are a musician and/or songwriter thus have a portfolio of music or do you mean that own a collection of songs by other people? If the former, is there a place I could enjoy your works? If the later, what’s you favorite sandwich??
Tomorrow we cut to panel 1, showing happy Dorothy waking up, panel 2 is surprised reaction seeing smiling Becky on her left, panel 3 is more surprised reaction seeing smiling Dina on her right, panel 4 is wondering, and panel 5 is panic.
Astariel
What happened to Walky?
Proxiehunter
He’s the one who convinced Becky and Dina to do that so he could see the look on Dorothy’s face.
So out of curiosity I looked up Paramore because I haven’t actually listened to them for a while and apparently they released a new album just a couple years ago
I can’t remember the last time I bought an album that wasn’t the greatest hits or a collection.
Wait… Yes I do: It was “Bad Meets Evil” in 2012.
Dana W
I bought that album because it is the most 70sbalbum made since the actual 70s.
jonathan young
that Daft Punk album feels like the Art of Noise and Enigma stuff that was coming out back in the 1990s like it’s retro weird and cool
Dana W
I’m a 70s kid. Every time I hear that album, in my mind I see a turntable and speakers. Its so 70s it hurts. thats one of the reasons its packed with 70s talent. Georgio Moroder, Paul Williams and Nile Rogers to name three,
You do know that Daft Punk did the soundtrack for Tron: Legacy, don’t you?
Dana W
Of course. 🙂
Kamino Neko
That soundtrack was so disappointing.
I was expecting Daft Punk…I got a standard movie score, just a little more electronic.
Dana W
Trying to build on Wendy Carlos’s work from the previous film no doubt.
Mr D
You do know that soundtrack came out before RAM, right?
Kamino Neko
Last album I bought came out less than a month ago. Not often I’m on the cutting edge. >_>
(Ghost – Skeletá, FTR.)
Azrael
Same. Though I also bought Myles Kennedy’s The Art of Letting Go, Tremonti’s The End Will Show Us How, and another album at the same time that I can’t remember along with Skeleta over the weekend.
Azhrei Vep
You’ve certainly got me beat. My last album came out … sometime during a previous life, if I had one.
Jon
Thanks to streaming, I don’t remember when I last bought an album. I think it might have been Type O Negative’s World Coming Down? Not really certain on that.
197 thoughts on “Hmmmm hmm”
NGPZ
I see Joyce likes her hot cup of morning Joe as well! ^V^
re: last Panel, the fun is just beginning Joyce, get on our level! >:D
Qube
Joyce likes her coffee like she likes her men: burly and covered in hair.
…Joyce has goddamn weird taste in coffee
Steamweed
Joyce likes her mornings like she likes her Joe: hot, milky, and sugary. But I’m not one to judge.
Thag Simmons
Add it to the tally of the chapter title song being sung diagetically during the chapter.
IntangibleMatter
Dorothy if you want to know what it’s like to be a secular marxist you gotta know at least a few more songs from around 2010
– Sincerely, A secular marxist
Dante
And it’s crucial some of them are from MCR’s Danger Days
Schpoonman
“The future is bulletproof!”
Dante
“Everybody wants to change the world, but no-one wants to die! Wanna try? Wanna try?”
Decidedly Orthogonal
What’s the meaning of “secular marxist” here? It seems like a redundant term (secular bein superfluous), so I’m guessing it’s a meme, but one I missed.
Pergola
Someone will now create a “Marxists of Faith” meme for you.
marcus erronius
It’s a thing that only really exists in the minds of fundamentalist christians. It’s one of their boogieman groups, who’ll corrupt you into the ways of the world if you aren’t vigilant enough.
I joined a boogieman group once. I found it disappointing – not enough men, not enough boogieing.
Psychie
At least part of that problem is solved the same way you make a tissue dance, you put a little boogie into it. Be the boogie you want to see in the group! Wanna be a boogieman? You just gotta boogie, man! If you boogie the men will come!
*plays “Hush, Hush, Hush (Here Comes The Boogieman)” cover by Abney Park on the hacked muzack”
Ymbrael
Not entirely, Liberation Theology is somewhat popular in Southern America, which attempts to synthesize Christianity and Marxist economic theory. Marx himself was a proponent of secularism, but that doesn’t mean the body of Marxist work hasn’t attempted to grapple with the contradictions of organized religion. Marx himself did a good deal of this in his life, but in his time and circumstance, that being 1800s Europe, saw it as a suppressive super-cultural institution to labor rights. That doesn’t mean it always has to be, dialectical materialism, by its very nature, is a method of analysis flexible to the material conditions of a time and place.
In this case, however, I believe that Joyce is using it as a refutation of the indoctrinated strawman she grew up with to emphasize her break from her upbringing, so the actual meaning of the words has as just little literary rigor as conservatives so often use to denounce any remotely progressive political tendency.
Ymbrael
Just realized I used “Marx himself” to start two sentences in a row…
The lack of literary rigor is, in this moment, unfortunately coming from inside the brain.
Llamo
Marx’s parents were also Jews that had been forced to convert to Christianity by antisemitic laws. His dislike of the church also has personal elements.
Airyu
Wait is Dorothy saying this or did you accidentally call Joyce “Dorothy”
Fiiiiilo
There’s no better feeling than being able to talk to others about music you’re both familiar with.
Steve
The music I loved throughout middle school, high school, and most of college I can talk about with virtually nobody now as it was not only Christian rock, but the obscure stuff. There is no Steve Taylor discourse anywhere on the Internet.
clif
That seems unlikely.
Consults Interwebs. https://www.reddit.com/r/ChristianMusic/comments/wkpwd0/steve_taylor_and_the_fact_he_is_really_good/
clif
I mean, he’s got his own Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/SteveTaylorPresents/
Enkrod
So you’re saying only boomers know about Steve Taylor?
Jim
Hey, hey, now! A lot of Gen X’ers, and a significant number of Millennials, too, use Facebook!
Plonker
It wasn’t Christian, and not really rock, but my experience is pretty much the same – hardly anyone I talked to back then, and even more so today, have even heard the names of many of the artists/bands I was in to.
Luckily, my tastes are pretty eclectic, so there’s almost always at least one or two exceptions. Usually not among my absolute favorites, but at least ones I enjoy listening to and keep on my extended playlist.
superglucose
Me, the Frank Zappa enjoyer
Fredcritter
“The present day composer refuses to die.”
Needfuldoer
Hell yeah.
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Needfuldoer
I mostly listened to 60s and 70s radio hits and Weird Al in my formative years. My peers only listened to one of those things. :\
Byron Orpheus
That’s not just a Christian rock thing. I’ve always been into esoteric music and I’ve gotten used to blank stares when I mention a band. In college was the only one in my dorm who was into punk. When alt.rock started to get popular and my friends started listening to REM and The Cure, I was into industrial and grunge. As I’ve aged it’s gotten worse. About ten years ago I discovered that about half my co-workers didn’t know The Beatles.
About five years ago in a meeting the lead asked us to take a minute to be silent. He said “Why are we so petrified of silence? Here, can you handle this?” We were silent for a minute, then he asked what we thought about. I said “I thought about my bills, my ex, my deadlines, and when I think I’m going to die. And I longed for the next distraction.” The silence was so awkward it could have tripped over its own feet while lying down. I said “What? You’re the one who quoted Alanis Morissette word-for-word. I was just continuing the song.”
Fiiiiilo
It’s like this whenever I try to get to know people and start talking about music (to break the ice). However, not knowing the Beatles is actually wild.
Azhrei Vep
I dunno, I can think of a lot of better feelings. A good stretch, a satisfying burp, the first drink of a fresh coke … and the second, and third, and all the rest of the can…
Honestly, most feelings that aren’t straight up negative are better in my experience.
Fiiiiilo
I feel that (the second statement I mean, I personally like my soda partly flat)
Jon
When my future wife and I first met in meatspace, it was at a picnic organized by our online group. It was a pleasantly warm day, and someone said how nice it was “now that spring is here”. Roughly simultaneously, we broke into Tom Lehrer’s “Poisoning Pigeons In the Park” (I’d put a link in here, but my HTML-fu is weak).
I think that might have been the moment I truly fell in love with her…
Jon
Other hand, for songs I’ll lay a shiny quarter that nobody else here is familiar with, Emerson Lake & Palmer’s “Stones of Years” (from the “Tarkus” – concept side, I guess?) helped get me past the nightmares resulting from spending several years planning nuclear wars for the Air Force.
John Campbell
I’ll take that quarter, thanks.
I mentioned the other day that I have a huge and eclectic music collection. It includes All The EL&P. Including “Space Gospel”, a bootleg pre-release version of EL&Po.
Opus the Poet
I’m a secular humanist and I have lots of songs that other people know, but not many people.
True Survivor
Do you mean you have songs in the sense that you are a musician and/or songwriter thus have a portfolio of music or do you mean that own a collection of songs by other people? If the former, is there a place I could enjoy your works? If the later, what’s you favorite sandwich??
Opus the Poet
Rueben… with extra sauerkraut.
Mym
D o r o t h y
Amós Batista
definitely hearing the wall
Joe Moose
Well, someone seems happy.
Zaxares
Along with Sarah and Tony, that makes two sexually satisfied couples waking up this morning. 😉
Steamweed
Tomorrow we cut to panel 1, showing happy Dorothy waking up, panel 2 is surprised reaction seeing smiling Becky on her left, panel 3 is more surprised reaction seeing smiling Dina on her right, panel 4 is wondering, and panel 5 is panic.
Astariel
What happened to Walky?
Proxiehunter
He’s the one who convinced Becky and Dina to do that so he could see the look on Dorothy’s face.
Joe Moose
Then the next comic is Dorothy waking up. XD
DailyBrad
I am glad that, unlike Joyce initially, we can probably safely assume Joe washed his hand after taking care of her, since he’s in a different shirt. 😛
GholaHalleck
The sweater vest took the full force of the explosion.
*Presses F To respect.*
Alongcameaspider
So out of curiosity I looked up Paramore because I haven’t actually listened to them for a while and apparently they released a new album just a couple years ago
Thag Simmons
shit, 2023 is already a couple years ago
Dana W
My last new album was Daft Punk, Random Access memories. 2023 is like yesterday.
Freezer
I can’t remember the last time I bought an album that wasn’t the greatest hits or a collection.
Wait… Yes I do: It was “Bad Meets Evil” in 2012.
Dana W
I bought that album because it is the most 70sbalbum made since the actual 70s.
jonathan young
that Daft Punk album feels like the Art of Noise and Enigma stuff that was coming out back in the 1990s like it’s retro weird and cool
Dana W
I’m a 70s kid. Every time I hear that album, in my mind I see a turntable and speakers. Its so 70s it hurts. thats one of the reasons its packed with 70s talent. Georgio Moroder, Paul Williams and Nile Rogers to name three,
Opus the Poet
You do know that Daft Punk did the soundtrack for Tron: Legacy, don’t you?
Dana W
Of course. 🙂
Kamino Neko
That soundtrack was so disappointing.
I was expecting Daft Punk…I got a standard movie score, just a little more electronic.
Dana W
Trying to build on Wendy Carlos’s work from the previous film no doubt.
Mr D
You do know that soundtrack came out before RAM, right?
Kamino Neko
Last album I bought came out less than a month ago. Not often I’m on the cutting edge. >_>
(Ghost – Skeletá, FTR.)
Azrael
Same. Though I also bought Myles Kennedy’s The Art of Letting Go, Tremonti’s The End Will Show Us How, and another album at the same time that I can’t remember along with Skeleta over the weekend.
Azhrei Vep
You’ve certainly got me beat. My last album came out … sometime during a previous life, if I had one.
Jon
Thanks to streaming, I don’t remember when I last bought an album. I think it might have been Type O Negative’s World Coming Down? Not really certain on that.
The 25th
Joyce is breaking me and Dorothy’s hearts
Pocky
I too enjoy knowing songs that other humans enjoy
EtchJetty
from the discord im in the three reactions i see when i open the doa thread:
yeah. Aough
Enkrod
Is that onomatopoeia of the Wilhelm Scream?
deliverything
According to the Rusty & Co. webcomic, it’s spelled “aawaagh”.
https://rustyandco.com/comic/level-8-71/
Nymph
I can hear it in my head when I read this, so this makes sense to me.
Nono
I had to take a second of mental math to remember that yes, even with the sliding timescale these guys were already born when the song came out.
For now.
SaraHysaro