Lucy used to be friendly to her, obsequious and fawning even. Lucy is friends with Sarah’s friends. This new Raidah clone is brand-new to Sarah.
C.T. Phipps
Other than they had breakfast, there’s no Radah-ness.
She just says that Sarah is quick to give up on people, which is literally what Sarah advised for something not Walky’s fault.
Carms
Sorry friendo, Lucy did not come to this conclusion independently, she is absolutely echoing Raidah, and Raidah deliberately set this criticism up to make Walky and his connections more accessible to Raidah.
Sarah is abrasive, AND Lucy is uncritically aping a vacuous position opined by a self-interested sophisticate.
Thomas
Ironically, jettisoning people when they’re inconvenient is totally a thing that Raidah does. Ask what happened to her former cronies. Wait what’ll happen to the utterly bland Carl. I wish any of the main characters would notice this.
Needfuldoer
The disappearance of Char and Chan does need to be addressed at some point…
TulipKitten
Well, Char literally called Dina the R-slur, that may have something to do with it.
thejeff
And then months later they weren’t seen hanging around with Raidah any more.
My assumption is they’re still Raidah’s cronies, they’re just being kept at arm’s length for the Jennifer scheme. Probably weren’t capable of faking it well enough.
Re: R-slur and jettisoning Sarah, Raidah still seems to be stuck on the grade-school definition of bigotry where it “doesn’t really count” as bigotry unless it involves slurs or deliberate cruelty. Apathy and ignorance? Just avoid slurs and that’s good enough. ?
Insanenoodlyguy
Thing is, Lucy’s right. I mean not about this idea, this idea is a disaster, but ditching a guy cause his parents you haven’t even met yet are an apparent problem would be pretty crappy. Radiah might not have been on the nose on purpose, but here, now, her words are actually accurate.
darkgloomie
Except that “dicthing a guy” was the last of Sarah’s suggestions, the first being “confront them yourself, if he really matters that much to you.”
So Lucy is completely wrong here.
aelfwine
Sarah mentioned confronting them as her first suggestion, but then went on the that the even *better* idea is to ditch Walky, and she kept on going on about that as her main focus.
So what does it matter that ditching him wasn’t her first suggestion, when it was the suggestion she herself argues is the best suggestion?
AlexaSpuds
you’re clearly missing Sarah’s fucking point here, you’re either as naive as Lucy, or you’re misinterpreting what a character you dislike is saying despite her being 1000% correct, just like many others in this comment section.
fighting to remain with a partner who will not confront their bigoted parents about their views when push comes to shove is a dumb and bad idea because they clearly don’t care or love you enough to put their relationship with their parents at risk for you, and this doesn’t even have to apply with parents, this also applies with friends too.
you also clearly missed the part where Sarah said that if he matters that much to her, she needs to be the one that confronts them for him if he’s too chickenshit to do it himself.
C.T. Phipps
I mean Walky is. That’s why they have a zany plan.
aelfwine
Your interpretation of Sarah’s words isn’t in the text, it’s just your interpretation.
There’s nothing in Sarah’s words about Walky not confronting his bigoted parents about their views when push comes to shove, there’s a lot about it’d being better to ditch him because the current situation is “so much trouble” and requires “all this work”.
She doesn’t tell Lucy to find a guy who will stand up more to his parents, she tells her to find a guy who doesn’t have shitty racist parents in the first place.
Just Karen
Some would argue that this terrible, terrible plan is confronting them with their own biases.
pope suburban
Also, it’s been two weeks at this point. They’ve known each other, not terribly well, for most of a semester. Dealing with racist parents is a big ask at any time, and for a fledgling relationship, it might not be worth the pain or effort. It’s not like they’ve been committed for a year, or they’re living together, or share a child, or anything like that. I take Sarah’s point because if the parents are a dealbreaker- understandable- then there’s really no need to go through a whole huge messy painful thing after a couple of dates and some limerence.
Adept
I agree that the point is “confront them yourself” and “If your boyfriend isn’t willing to defend you, then he’s too much trouble for what he’s worth”.
Walky, at this point, is a very shallow creature. He even acknowledges it himself.
Piph
> but ditching a guy cause his parents you haven’t even met yet are an apparent problem would be pretty crappy.
Would it, though? He’s someone you’ve been dating for a few weeks, at most, and you have only even known for a few months. And now you’ve learned that his parents will never fully accept you, and if you and your boyfriend were to eventually have children, you would have to navigate the issue that one set of their grandparents would resent them for being blacker than their “generically beige” father. Even if Walky were to cut his parents out of his life completely, that’s still a level of fuss that you aren’t obligated to take on.
Insanenoodlyguy
No. But it is in fact jettisoning somebody because their inconvenient. So again what is Lucy saying that’s wrong?
thejeff
OTOH, it’s a college relationship only a couple weeks in. Should you really be basing your plan for the next weeks on how his parents might treat potential children years in the future?
And Sarah is doing nothng but reinforce that narrative by invoking Raidah every time someone calls her on her bullshit.
fridge_logic
Sarah has suffered the terrible curse of the worst person she knows making a great point. It seems like in the specific case Raidah is mad about Sarah was in the right; but it also seems like Raidah caught on to a pattern in Sarah…
Not getting defensive and parroting “Raidah got to you too” every time someone sounds like Raidah would probably help Sarah’s case.
Joe Angel
This isn’t “sounding like”, this is verbatim quoting.
Shogeton
She is. Because Sarah is working very hard to confirm what Raidah said.
Raida says ‘Sarah Jettisons people’
Sarah says ‘Walky is a loser, too much effort, best thing to do is just get someone else’ (Sarah does not actually jettison people who are too much effort, or she’d have jettisoned Joyce. Lucy has no way of knowing this)
Lucy is reminded of the warning Raida gave her, apparently confirmed here, and yes, uses that language.
And Sarah deciding that this is all Raida’s fault without going ‘am I being a jerk’? is not in her favor either.
I like Sarah mind you, she’s a good person at heart. But she has her flaws, and those are in full display here. Lucy is absolutely right to rebuke her.
Lucy and Walky’s plan is still a terrible plan for various reasons though.
Zero
Because Sarah is literally doing the thing those words describe.
Raidah was lying, but Sarah is suggesting it right now.
Freemage
Close, but not quite. Sarah is recommending Lucy do the thing those words describe. She, herself, has only ever ‘jettisoned’ one person (Dina), and that was actually not the intention of her actions (she just wanted Dina to get some goddamned therapy, and Dina’s other ‘friends’, such as Raidah, were utterly fucking worthless on that front).
If Sarah were ~actually~ as willing to jettison difficult or troublesome people as everyone accuses her of being, she and Joyce wouldn’t even be on speaking terms.
Not quite related, but is it just me who wishes I’d gotten unsolicited life advice more often? Like, I’d make a dumb mistake (because too damn autistic to notice someone isn’t trustworthy, or too unaware of my own behaviour), and months after it all crashed and burned and I’m finally somewhat recovered, my so-called friends finally start mentioning how it was obvious to them that it was a bad idea… Why didn’t you tell me?! Like, I might or might not have listened, but I’d gotten the chance to at least consider things! ><
brute
my family did this a lot and it drove me crazy 🙁
khn0
friends and family haven’t the same standpoint. Family think they know your needs when all they know is how you liked pony when you were 12 y.o. hence should find someone owning a riding school and an equestrian facility. Friends thinks they know your needs when all they know is what you told them. Some people need advice (note I don’t say guidance), some people will brush them off, really really few of them would be broken by a heartfelt point of view on a situation. Especially when it’s about a “SO” that’s been there for less than a trimester.
Mark
Not just you. There were a few times that I might have benefitted enormously from timely advice, or information that I lacked. Much better than figuring out what I should’ve done, years too late.
Yeet
I mean, if that advice was delivered in a relevant and non-hostile way, it might be helpful, I don’t know
the vast majority of the unsolicited life advice I’ve received is stuff like “you should try [something that won’t help/is too expensive/relates to an entirely thing]” or “lose weight!”
(the second one isn’t really “advice” per se but people insist it is)
point is, if you’re in a position where people want to give you a lot of unsolicited advice it’s probably going to be crap
sarah’s falling into a common problem with advice here; she doesn’t back it up with good reasoning and includes an insult
“this is a bad idea” is fair
“here’s what I would do” is less helpful! it doesn’t inherently demonstrate why you should do a different thing and sarah doesn’t add that
and finally “your bf sucks” is just an insult in this context (walky’s not abusive or a cheater or anything he’s just not very cool or mature), even if sincerely meant, tbh
so, like, B for effort, D for content on sarah’s part but then most unsolicited advice fails to do better
just say “this plan will make everything worse and probably piss off walky’s sister immensely” sarah, jeez
Nicoleandmaggie
In this case though where was Sarah to interject common sense before Walky and Amber walked off? It’s more like a prequel to I told you so than actually stopping the idiocy.
Insanenoodlyguy
From friends? Sure. From some person I just recently meant I’ve seen be nothing but mean who also insults my boyfriend? Fuck right off
Angel
might be a cultural norm or stigma, i imagine growing up in an asian community/neighborhood all teh aunties/uncles will comment on every little thing, but for some white ppl i’ve noticed, some get snippy with each other for ‘unsolicited’ advice or so, or ppl just doubling down out of spite even if said advice is good (or like, some cases where “can i ask for advice?” even if they may have wanted a 2nd opinion they usually go along with their first thought/already decided and unchanged by it or so)
And it depends on what kinda stuff it is, ppl are extra sensitive about relationships as well like “oh you shouldn’t date him/tehy seem like a bad influence” and then it’s like Michael Scott Voice: “You know what?I ‘m going to date her even harder” or so
/Some/ ppl might be grateful in retrospect but a lot get kinda …uppity? if someone steps in with some life choices and such liek “you had no right to do that” (tho advice is diff than just steering/making decisions for you)
Wouldn’t be surprised if there were a handful of books/vids like “how to be a person” and social skills and stuff but there’s prolly an equal amount of underhanded/manipulative ppl that try to take advantage of ppl who they think is an easy target
So, C.T. Phipps. You’re saying Sarah shouldn’t speak when someone’s making a stupid mistake? She has to shut up and walk away? She’s surrounded by freshman. She’d never be permitted to speak again.
Taffy
Why should Sarah carah in the first place? The closest thing she’s got to a dog in this fight is that Lucy talked to Raidah, who Sarah doesn’t get along with, and that’s such a loose connection a stiff breeze could sever it.
C.T. Phipps
There’s a scene in Mass Effect where Shepard overhears a couple talk about whether they should give their child genetic therapy. Shepard, out of the blue, walks up and gives them advice. It’s incredibly weird and creepy. So is Sarah listening in and giving unsolicited relationship advice to someone she doesn’t like and doesn’t like her back.
Taffy
There’s “You should dump your boyfriend because I’m not attracted to him” and then there’s “Hey, I’m a respected public figure and I happen to have relevant information about this thing that’s actually pretty fucking important to your kid’s future in this futuristic sci-fi setting”.
Chromatic Roses
“someone she doesn’t like and doesn’t like her back” they were friends up until like, earlier this morning. this isnt “sarah walking up to a random person and giving them unsolicited life advice” it’s “sarah walking up to someone she considers her friend and telling her her bad plan is a bad plan”. i also think lucy doesnt “make it clear she is not welcome” but instead is just like. making passive aggressive comments, which again, she only started doing a few hours ago. after she had breakfast with raidah where raidah made essentially those exact same passive aggressive comments.
Walky isn’t a sunk cost. At no point has Walky shown any sign that he feels that his relationship with his parents is more important than his relationship with Lucy. The wacky hijinks plan is dumb for a variety of reasons, but it was one formed in conjunction with Lucy, not one he’s forcing upon her, and with the goal of getting his parents to better accept him dating Lucy.
Chasing a sunk cost would be like spending $20,000 on repairs for a 20 year old car that’s been in four accidents. This would be like getting a brand new car because your current, newish one has a broken taillight.
Ah, there is an alternate universe where Joyce embraces the chad lady killer we all know is lurking inside her. Probably the same universe where Walky and Billie fuck on the reg. Yup, it all checks out.
Joyce loves it, Dorothy and Becky bond over being able to quote episodes at each other. Dina gets hung up on how the monkeys that Monkey Master uses as ammunition can possibly still be alive.
Sarah says “I hate that you all got me into this” all the way to the convention. (The group cosplay is lovely, and the other four are sworn to secrecy about whose idea it was.)
This is really fantastic, honestly. Do you have a dA or tumblr or anything? Just since I do love your art and sometimes wish there was like, a place to go to look at it in case I miss it in the comments.
yotomoe1 on twitter. Though I rarely post there. And I never post my DOA art there.
Jorb
Is there anywhere good to find your DOA art, or just go through all the old comics comments sections hoping to find them? Iirc you did a whole Walky x Billie/Jennifer comic a while ago but I don’t know if there’s anywhere where it’s all in one spot, for example.
You know, I already shipped Dorothy and Joyce, and then loved the idea of them joining Becky and Dina for a cute poly romance…but the addition of Sarah is a perfection I didn’t know I needed until now.
You won Yotomoe, now my improbable endgame is Joyce/Dorothy/Becky/Dina/Sarah.
I actually don’t like this from Lucy. She’s turning out to be kind of fickle in her opinion of people. One comment from Raidah really turned her against Sarah quick. Not that Sarah’s particularly likable, but stil….
I think Lucy’s too harsh on Sarah by a little, but this strip? This is not a case of it, Sarah’s waaaaaay over the line with the “you should just dump him because his parents are racist assholes” line.
…Lucy should still confront them herself instead of going into the wacky hijinks territory, but more than one person can be wrong at a time.
Chubsius
Just a PSA for the young folks: It’s ok to dump someone. You don’t even have to have a big, fancy reason. Just wanting to, or a feeling is enough. There are so, so many fish in the sea.
I fall in the camp of Sarah has a good point, but is as blunt as the baseball bat she wields. It’s not a sin to suggest that the guy Lucy has been on three dates with, who Sarah knows rather well, is not the guy for her and comes with too much unresolved baggage.
Wraithy2773
Yeah, its fine to dump someone, dating is an At Will status, no need for there to be a reason.
But pushing that option to someone else is a much more difficult line, especially when the amount of baggage that Walky has is that he doesn’t want to get up on his racist parents at the first gate.
It’d be one thing for Sarah to just say “you could always dump him”. But going beyond that to really advocating for that move is just too far.
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Ana Chronistic
“So, Sarah, you’re saying you’re LAZY.”
“I’m saying I know what Sunk Cost Fallacy is.”
C.T. Phipps
Take note Sarah interjects herself into this conversation even though that Lucy, who is friends with everyone, makes it clear she’s not welcome.
Sarah is actually the one giving unsolicited unwanted life criticism to a stranger.
Vanessa
Lucy used to be friendly to her, obsequious and fawning even. Lucy is friends with Sarah’s friends. This new Raidah clone is brand-new to Sarah.
C.T. Phipps
Other than they had breakfast, there’s no Radah-ness.
She just says that Sarah is quick to give up on people, which is literally what Sarah advised for something not Walky’s fault.
Carms
Sorry friendo, Lucy did not come to this conclusion independently, she is absolutely echoing Raidah, and Raidah deliberately set this criticism up to make Walky and his connections more accessible to Raidah.
Sarah is abrasive, AND Lucy is uncritically aping a vacuous position opined by a self-interested sophisticate.
Thomas
Ironically, jettisoning people when they’re inconvenient is totally a thing that Raidah does. Ask what happened to her former cronies. Wait what’ll happen to the utterly bland Carl. I wish any of the main characters would notice this.
Needfuldoer
The disappearance of Char and Chan does need to be addressed at some point…
TulipKitten
Well, Char literally called Dina the R-slur, that may have something to do with it.
thejeff
And then months later they weren’t seen hanging around with Raidah any more.
My assumption is they’re still Raidah’s cronies, they’re just being kept at arm’s length for the Jennifer scheme. Probably weren’t capable of faking it well enough.
NGPZ
Re: R-slur and jettisoning Sarah, Raidah still seems to be stuck on the grade-school definition of bigotry where it “doesn’t really count” as bigotry unless it involves slurs or deliberate cruelty. Apathy and ignorance? Just avoid slurs and that’s good enough. ?
Insanenoodlyguy
Thing is, Lucy’s right. I mean not about this idea, this idea is a disaster, but ditching a guy cause his parents you haven’t even met yet are an apparent problem would be pretty crappy. Radiah might not have been on the nose on purpose, but here, now, her words are actually accurate.
darkgloomie
Except that “dicthing a guy” was the last of Sarah’s suggestions, the first being “confront them yourself, if he really matters that much to you.”
So Lucy is completely wrong here.
aelfwine
Sarah mentioned confronting them as her first suggestion, but then went on the that the even *better* idea is to ditch Walky, and she kept on going on about that as her main focus.
So what does it matter that ditching him wasn’t her first suggestion, when it was the suggestion she herself argues is the best suggestion?
AlexaSpuds
you’re clearly missing Sarah’s fucking point here, you’re either as naive as Lucy, or you’re misinterpreting what a character you dislike is saying despite her being 1000% correct, just like many others in this comment section.
fighting to remain with a partner who will not confront their bigoted parents about their views when push comes to shove is a dumb and bad idea because they clearly don’t care or love you enough to put their relationship with their parents at risk for you, and this doesn’t even have to apply with parents, this also applies with friends too.
you also clearly missed the part where Sarah said that if he matters that much to her, she needs to be the one that confronts them for him if he’s too chickenshit to do it himself.
C.T. Phipps
I mean Walky is. That’s why they have a zany plan.
aelfwine
Your interpretation of Sarah’s words isn’t in the text, it’s just your interpretation.
There’s nothing in Sarah’s words about Walky not confronting his bigoted parents about their views when push comes to shove, there’s a lot about it’d being better to ditch him because the current situation is “so much trouble” and requires “all this work”.
She doesn’t tell Lucy to find a guy who will stand up more to his parents, she tells her to find a guy who doesn’t have shitty racist parents in the first place.
Just Karen
Some would argue that this terrible, terrible plan is confronting them with their own biases.
pope suburban
Also, it’s been two weeks at this point. They’ve known each other, not terribly well, for most of a semester. Dealing with racist parents is a big ask at any time, and for a fledgling relationship, it might not be worth the pain or effort. It’s not like they’ve been committed for a year, or they’re living together, or share a child, or anything like that. I take Sarah’s point because if the parents are a dealbreaker- understandable- then there’s really no need to go through a whole huge messy painful thing after a couple of dates and some limerence.
Adept
I agree that the point is “confront them yourself” and “If your boyfriend isn’t willing to defend you, then he’s too much trouble for what he’s worth”.
Walky, at this point, is a very shallow creature. He even acknowledges it himself.
Piph
> but ditching a guy cause his parents you haven’t even met yet are an apparent problem would be pretty crappy.
Would it, though? He’s someone you’ve been dating for a few weeks, at most, and you have only even known for a few months. And now you’ve learned that his parents will never fully accept you, and if you and your boyfriend were to eventually have children, you would have to navigate the issue that one set of their grandparents would resent them for being blacker than their “generically beige” father. Even if Walky were to cut his parents out of his life completely, that’s still a level of fuss that you aren’t obligated to take on.
Insanenoodlyguy
No. But it is in fact jettisoning somebody because their inconvenient. So again what is Lucy saying that’s wrong?
thejeff
OTOH, it’s a college relationship only a couple weeks in. Should you really be basing your plan for the next weeks on how his parents might treat potential children years in the future?
Freezer
And Sarah is doing nothng but reinforce that narrative by invoking Raidah every time someone calls her on her bullshit.
fridge_logic
Sarah has suffered the terrible curse of the worst person she knows making a great point. It seems like in the specific case Raidah is mad about Sarah was in the right; but it also seems like Raidah caught on to a pattern in Sarah…
The Blueprint System
She’s repeating Raidah’s exact words when talking about Sarah.
Freezer
Not getting defensive and parroting “Raidah got to you too” every time someone sounds like Raidah would probably help Sarah’s case.
Joe Angel
This isn’t “sounding like”, this is verbatim quoting.
Shogeton
She is. Because Sarah is working very hard to confirm what Raidah said.
Raida says ‘Sarah Jettisons people’
Sarah says ‘Walky is a loser, too much effort, best thing to do is just get someone else’ (Sarah does not actually jettison people who are too much effort, or she’d have jettisoned Joyce. Lucy has no way of knowing this)
Lucy is reminded of the warning Raida gave her, apparently confirmed here, and yes, uses that language.
And Sarah deciding that this is all Raida’s fault without going ‘am I being a jerk’? is not in her favor either.
I like Sarah mind you, she’s a good person at heart. But she has her flaws, and those are in full display here. Lucy is absolutely right to rebuke her.
Lucy and Walky’s plan is still a terrible plan for various reasons though.
Zero
Because Sarah is literally doing the thing those words describe.
Raidah was lying, but Sarah is suggesting it right now.
Freemage
Close, but not quite. Sarah is recommending Lucy do the thing those words describe. She, herself, has only ever ‘jettisoned’ one person (Dina), and that was actually not the intention of her actions (she just wanted Dina to get some goddamned therapy, and Dina’s other ‘friends’, such as Raidah, were utterly fucking worthless on that front).
If Sarah were ~actually~ as willing to jettison difficult or troublesome people as everyone accuses her of being, she and Joyce wouldn’t even be on speaking terms.
Masumi
Not quite related, but is it just me who wishes I’d gotten unsolicited life advice more often? Like, I’d make a dumb mistake (because too damn autistic to notice someone isn’t trustworthy, or too unaware of my own behaviour), and months after it all crashed and burned and I’m finally somewhat recovered, my so-called friends finally start mentioning how it was obvious to them that it was a bad idea… Why didn’t you tell me?! Like, I might or might not have listened, but I’d gotten the chance to at least consider things! ><
brute
my family did this a lot and it drove me crazy 🙁
khn0
friends and family haven’t the same standpoint. Family think they know your needs when all they know is how you liked pony when you were 12 y.o. hence should find someone owning a riding school and an equestrian facility. Friends thinks they know your needs when all they know is what you told them. Some people need advice (note I don’t say guidance), some people will brush them off, really really few of them would be broken by a heartfelt point of view on a situation. Especially when it’s about a “SO” that’s been there for less than a trimester.
Mark
Not just you. There were a few times that I might have benefitted enormously from timely advice, or information that I lacked. Much better than figuring out what I should’ve done, years too late.
Yeet
I mean, if that advice was delivered in a relevant and non-hostile way, it might be helpful, I don’t know
the vast majority of the unsolicited life advice I’ve received is stuff like “you should try [something that won’t help/is too expensive/relates to an entirely thing]” or “lose weight!”
(the second one isn’t really “advice” per se but people insist it is)
point is, if you’re in a position where people want to give you a lot of unsolicited advice it’s probably going to be crap
sarah’s falling into a common problem with advice here; she doesn’t back it up with good reasoning and includes an insult
“this is a bad idea” is fair
“here’s what I would do” is less helpful! it doesn’t inherently demonstrate why you should do a different thing and sarah doesn’t add that
and finally “your bf sucks” is just an insult in this context (walky’s not abusive or a cheater or anything he’s just not very cool or mature), even if sincerely meant, tbh
so, like, B for effort, D for content on sarah’s part but then most unsolicited advice fails to do better
just say “this plan will make everything worse and probably piss off walky’s sister immensely” sarah, jeez
Nicoleandmaggie
In this case though where was Sarah to interject common sense before Walky and Amber walked off? It’s more like a prequel to I told you so than actually stopping the idiocy.
Insanenoodlyguy
From friends? Sure. From some person I just recently meant I’ve seen be nothing but mean who also insults my boyfriend? Fuck right off
Angel
might be a cultural norm or stigma, i imagine growing up in an asian community/neighborhood all teh aunties/uncles will comment on every little thing, but for some white ppl i’ve noticed, some get snippy with each other for ‘unsolicited’ advice or so, or ppl just doubling down out of spite even if said advice is good (or like, some cases where “can i ask for advice?” even if they may have wanted a 2nd opinion they usually go along with their first thought/already decided and unchanged by it or so)
And it depends on what kinda stuff it is, ppl are extra sensitive about relationships as well like “oh you shouldn’t date him/tehy seem like a bad influence” and then it’s like Michael Scott Voice: “You know what?I ‘m going to date her even harder” or so
/Some/ ppl might be grateful in retrospect but a lot get kinda …uppity? if someone steps in with some life choices and such liek “you had no right to do that” (tho advice is diff than just steering/making decisions for you)
Wouldn’t be surprised if there were a handful of books/vids like “how to be a person” and social skills and stuff but there’s prolly an equal amount of underhanded/manipulative ppl that try to take advantage of ppl who they think is an easy target
BarerMender
So, C.T. Phipps. You’re saying Sarah shouldn’t speak when someone’s making a stupid mistake? She has to shut up and walk away? She’s surrounded by freshman. She’d never be permitted to speak again.
Taffy
Why should Sarah carah in the first place? The closest thing she’s got to a dog in this fight is that Lucy talked to Raidah, who Sarah doesn’t get along with, and that’s such a loose connection a stiff breeze could sever it.
C.T. Phipps
There’s a scene in Mass Effect where Shepard overhears a couple talk about whether they should give their child genetic therapy. Shepard, out of the blue, walks up and gives them advice. It’s incredibly weird and creepy. So is Sarah listening in and giving unsolicited relationship advice to someone she doesn’t like and doesn’t like her back.
Taffy
There’s “You should dump your boyfriend because I’m not attracted to him” and then there’s “Hey, I’m a respected public figure and I happen to have relevant information about this thing that’s actually pretty fucking important to your kid’s future in this futuristic sci-fi setting”.
Chromatic Roses
“someone she doesn’t like and doesn’t like her back” they were friends up until like, earlier this morning. this isnt “sarah walking up to a random person and giving them unsolicited life advice” it’s “sarah walking up to someone she considers her friend and telling her her bad plan is a bad plan”. i also think lucy doesnt “make it clear she is not welcome” but instead is just like. making passive aggressive comments, which again, she only started doing a few hours ago. after she had breakfast with raidah where raidah made essentially those exact same passive aggressive comments.
Wraithy2773
Walky isn’t a sunk cost. At no point has Walky shown any sign that he feels that his relationship with his parents is more important than his relationship with Lucy. The wacky hijinks plan is dumb for a variety of reasons, but it was one formed in conjunction with Lucy, not one he’s forcing upon her, and with the goal of getting his parents to better accept him dating Lucy.
Chasing a sunk cost would be like spending $20,000 on repairs for a 20 year old car that’s been in four accidents. This would be like getting a brand new car because your current, newish one has a broken taillight.
Taffy
Hell, not even the broken tail light thing. It’s like abandoning your car in a parking lot because your CD is done playing and now the car is quiet.
Ana Chronistic
I’m imagining from Sarah’s point of view, Walky seems to be an energy sink
She DID pointlessly(?) endure THREE “dates” with him to even GET to the “bone zone”
Doctor_Who
So me imagining Lucy as sounding like Dr. Mrs. The Monarch from Ventures Bros. is inaccurate, huh?
Thag Simmons
Probably, unless Raidah has a voice so low it’s beyond the range of human hearing.
Psi baka onna
Or Raidah sounds like Dr Mrs The Monarch confirmed?
C.T. Phipps
A lot of families irrationally hate their in-laws.
I had to cut my mother out of my life for almost ten years because she never quite believed I’d choose my wife over her.
Steamweed
These two are getting along just fine!
C.T. Phipps
Sarah notably starts up the conversation after making it clear she was eavesdropping.
Steamweed
All the better to (with any good luck) shorten the conversation. Sarah being allergic to people.
Yotomoe
https://imgur.com/a/A0aRsBj
Joyce’s polyamory.
Drew this a while back and now making it public.
Sirksome
Ah, there is an alternate universe where Joyce embraces the chad lady killer we all know is lurking inside her. Probably the same universe where Walky and Billie fuck on the reg. Yup, it all checks out.
System_Anomaly
Love it!
Kyrik Michalowski
Fantastic, we can only imagine what hi-jinks occurred before they all fell asleep.
Radiance
All-night Dexter & Monkey Master marathon?
Joyce loves it, Dorothy and Becky bond over being able to quote episodes at each other. Dina gets hung up on how the monkeys that Monkey Master uses as ammunition can possibly still be alive.
Sarah says “I hate that you all got me into this” all the way to the convention. (The group cosplay is lovely, and the other four are sworn to secrecy about whose idea it was.)
DailyBrad
This is really fantastic, honestly. Do you have a dA or tumblr or anything? Just since I do love your art and sometimes wish there was like, a place to go to look at it in case I miss it in the comments.
EpochFlame
seconding this
Yotomoe
yotomoe1 on twitter. Though I rarely post there. And I never post my DOA art there.
Jorb
Is there anywhere good to find your DOA art, or just go through all the old comics comments sections hoping to find them? Iirc you did a whole Walky x Billie/Jennifer comic a while ago but I don’t know if there’s anywhere where it’s all in one spot, for example.
Mewzard
You know, I already shipped Dorothy and Joyce, and then loved the idea of them joining Becky and Dina for a cute poly romance…but the addition of Sarah is a perfection I didn’t know I needed until now.
You won Yotomoe, now my improbable endgame is Joyce/Dorothy/Becky/Dina/Sarah.
Angel
nice lol i don’t think i could sleep comfortably like that but even a platonic group sleepover with friends would be fun
NGPZ
??? Thank you this looks awesome Porn Lord Yoto!
Jeff K!
Aww, heckin adorable!
Clif
You are my hero.
AlexaSpuds
This is super cute, I always like seeing your art from this alt universe where the gang are more sexually fluid and active
Amós Batista
Lord, I’m making a request: please, make this cannon. Amen.
Sirksome
I actually don’t like this from Lucy. She’s turning out to be kind of fickle in her opinion of people. One comment from Raidah really turned her against Sarah quick. Not that Sarah’s particularly likable, but stil….
Karla Jean
It’s almost like everybody in the world is hypocritical at times.
C.T. Phipps
Sarah basically walks up to her and says she should dump her boyfriend because of his parents.
She’s on her worst behavior with Lucy without the excuse of them being friends or roommates.
Wraithy2773
Thiiiiiiis.
I think Lucy’s too harsh on Sarah by a little, but this strip? This is not a case of it, Sarah’s waaaaaay over the line with the “you should just dump him because his parents are racist assholes” line.
…Lucy should still confront them herself instead of going into the wacky hijinks territory, but more than one person can be wrong at a time.
Chubsius
Just a PSA for the young folks: It’s ok to dump someone. You don’t even have to have a big, fancy reason. Just wanting to, or a feeling is enough. There are so, so many fish in the sea.
I fall in the camp of Sarah has a good point, but is as blunt as the baseball bat she wields. It’s not a sin to suggest that the guy Lucy has been on three dates with, who Sarah knows rather well, is not the guy for her and comes with too much unresolved baggage.
Wraithy2773
Yeah, its fine to dump someone, dating is an At Will status, no need for there to be a reason.
But pushing that option to someone else is a much more difficult line, especially when the amount of baggage that Walky has is that he doesn’t want to get up on his racist parents at the first gate.
It’d be one thing for Sarah to just say “you could always dump him”. But going beyond that to really advocating for that move is just too far.