I mean, when I first saw my brother in glasses, it was like this, the “oh, that’s new but also not surprising since LITERALLY EVERYONE ELSE in the family has them”
Given we now live in an age where people are spending an unprecedented number of our daily hours staring at screens held 30cm from our faces, beginning in many cases before our ages reach double digits… I would not be at ALL surprised if nearsightedness has already become the statistical “normal”.
Those handful of people NOT wearing glasses? They’re the freaks now! MWahahaha!
Kryss LaBryn
They realized in I think it was… I want to say Singapore? a few years ago that kids were needing glasses for being nearsighted at a rate that was increasing much faster than could be explained by genetics. So they looked into it, and realized that Australian kids (more or less in the same part of the world, climatically, I guess) weren’t having the same issue, and, in fact, didn’t need glasses that much at all.
So they looked into what might be causing that difference in outcomes, when the kids were living very similar lifestyles (so far as family incomes, and screen times, etc, etc went), and realized pretty soon that the difference was exposure to levels of sunlight.
So that of course made them think that Vitamin D levels might be to blame; but surprisingly, it wasn’t.
Ends up that, what with our eyes still being adapted for an outdoor, hunter/gatherer lifestyle, what our eyeballs need, in our childhoods particularly, is just to be looking around outside, at things in the distance, in sunlight.
It’s the exposure to the sunlight itself that makes the difference, and looking at stuff at the horizon, and not just in one’s immediate environs/within arm’s reach. And it also ends up that you only like fifteen minutes a day of looking around, outside, in daylight (with the sun on your face, not just out a window) to get the full benefits of it.
So they started having young schoolkids spending time outside each day (like we did with recess when I was a kid), and pretty soon they were able to see the impact on the percentage of kids requiring glasses, as I recall.
TL;DR: It’s not looking at screens all day that causes nearsightedness (although that can cause eyestrain); it’s not using our eyeballs the way they were evolved to, and just being outside during daylight hours, looking around at stuff further away, for like 15 minutes a day, is enough for kids to see a real change in their correct eyeball growth. Pun intended. Heh.
–I expect genetics still plays a part, though. But screens, not so much, it happily ends up.
Suzi
Meanwhile, I didn’t even own a screen until I was well into my teens, spent every day outside just about until I was 13, and have been blind as a bat since I was 7. Eyesight finally stopped changing at 17, finally got a laptop at 20, no change in nearsightedness.
Bodies are weird man.
DanSantos
Yeah, I was an outside kid and didn’t have even a TV in the house (weird, cult upbringing) and I was in need of glasses by the time I was 10. I needed them before, but it wasn’t really recognized what my problem was.
If you could find the paper/study that has the sunlight effects on eyesight, I would love to read it. I wouldn’t be surprised to SEE* that there is an effect, but I’m definitely not one of the examples of that effect.
*see** what I did there?
**see*** what I did there?
***se– eh, I’ll stop now.
Ed Rhodes
It’s misshapen eyeballs that cause near-sightedness. I don’t believe staring at a screen is going to cause that to happen.
When I first saw my brother in glasses, I immediately began giving him shit (little brother, gotta follow union rules)… until four months later when it was decreed I needed them as well…
Mary and most of the parents still exist so can’t really see Malaya getting that title.
cmasta1992
Mary is garbage and narratively is treated like garbage. Malaya is garbage and is treated like neutral at worst. That bugs me more.
That Guy
Just my 2 cents here, take it with a grain of salt. Malaya is kind of a garbage person, but she makes no attempt at covering it. In fact she will say directly to your face that she’s not gonna be nice, and fuck off if you don’t like it. There’s a level of honesty to that. Much like Joe being a womanizing douche, he’s never tried to act like he isn’t, so there’s people who accept who he is. Mary is hot garbage and treats everyone else horribly but acts like she isn’t and doesn’t. She acts like she’s a perfect creature and everyone should love and respect her for being so great at what she’s doing, while putting everyone else down for doing anything different, and people the same as her also get scolded for not being good enough. That’s why she’s hated compared to tolerated.
Rainhat
I understand what you’re saying about Malaya, but I think I’ve had enough of “I’m terrible and want credit for being unashamed of my terribleness” for a lifetime at this point.
jam
Yeah, very much in agreement with that. I really don’t get why people they should think- oh, you’re a member of kitten-kicking action group, and you publicly lobby for kicking kittens, and whenever anyone says, hey, maybe don’t kick kittens, it hurts them, you say “Oh, I know it hurts the kittens, but I think it’s more important that I get to kick the kittens than that the kittens don’t get hurt.”? Oh, well, I guess that’s fine then.
Common sense
thats i am pretty suspicious of Booster right now.
if the meeting is anything to go by, we could be looking at another such character. thought its still to early to say for sure.
When you make a change, it rerolls your gravatar if you haven’t set one manually.
Lumino
Let’s test, am I still Becky?
Lumino
Seems like there’s more to it.
HeySo
It being case-sensitive, and that being enough, is definitely the case for me. I can’t ever recall what capitalization I use* [no caps, capitalization at start, or capitalization per word], so I generally cycle through three consistent different avatars (Well, consistent up until the system gets tweaked and the avatar associations get shuffled around. Sometimes that’s a win, other times it’s.. not. :P)
*More precisely, I can’t reliably recall which capitalization I need to use to get (whatever avatar association is currently best and not awful). 😛
Diane
Yeah, I changed one cap, and it didn’t change, but I changed it to all caps and suddenly better character than Walky and Becky.
Deanatay
Remember, there’s a limited number of avatars in the system, so it’s possible for one captialization to give you the same avatar as another.
Jo Giggles
I didnt know that workedp
Reltzik
Seriously.
It assigns a grav based on your email address. Keep using the same email address and you keep getting the same grav. Change the email address, the pic changes too. (Probably. Sometimes you’ll get the same one again by luck.) But the grab-assigner is case-sensitive, and email addresses aren’t. So you can change which letters of your email address are capitalized and get a new grav.
Reltzik
Wait, what? How am I Roz now? I had Walky, dammit!
SaraHysaro
Nope, apparently not.
Diane
SAME! I was Carla, now I’m Sarah. I think we added in a Joyce with glasses somewhere, and it changed. I’m actually more happy with my results now, because I love Sarah the most (even if she’s a little mean, she’s not Malaya mean or Ruth mean).
Hilzabub
She’s mean but she cares, even if she doesn’t want to.
Anna
Oohhh. I want to see whom I’ll get this time, then.
Anna
Woh! I used to be Ruth!
SaraHysaro
Huh, am I still Dina?
Tunasammich
Maybe I’m wrong here, but doesn’t that also put your comment in moderation? I got a new computer and totally forgot what email address I was using on this site before, and I got a regular gravitar when I put in the address I use the most, but my comments all had to be approved for a while
I was thinking, isn’t it kinda spoiler-ish to update the cast based on the latest developments in the comic? A new reader starting from the beginning is going to be pretty confused if they check the cast page before they start reading.
Arguably it’s spoilerish to HAVE a cast page. Unless your cast page only has the characters that appeared in the first comic, described as they are in the first comic, it will spoil future character introductions, personalities, histories, and/or relationships.
Given that, the cast list isn’t for first-time readers. If anything, it’s for people who randomly wander into the page and, being insane, elect to just start with what’s in front of them rather than devoting a month and a half to reading several years of backstory.
He Who Abides
The tags have been more spoiler-ish, honestly.
*glares at Jocelyn tag*
He Who Abides
BBCC’s gonna slit my throat for this Gravatar, aren’t they?
Look…undoubtedly Joyce has her strong points. But the level of upkeep and hand-holding required to be her friend would be waaayyyy too much for me, I’d be exhausted after three days.
325 thoughts on “Joyce Life Events”
Ana Chronistic
PROTIP: it’s ALWAYS wrong
Ana Chronistic
I mean, when I first saw my brother in glasses, it was like this, the “oh, that’s new but also not surprising since LITERALLY EVERYONE ELSE in the family has them”
Hinoron
Given we now live in an age where people are spending an unprecedented number of our daily hours staring at screens held 30cm from our faces, beginning in many cases before our ages reach double digits… I would not be at ALL surprised if nearsightedness has already become the statistical “normal”.
Those handful of people NOT wearing glasses? They’re the freaks now! MWahahaha!
Kryss LaBryn
They realized in I think it was… I want to say Singapore? a few years ago that kids were needing glasses for being nearsighted at a rate that was increasing much faster than could be explained by genetics. So they looked into it, and realized that Australian kids (more or less in the same part of the world, climatically, I guess) weren’t having the same issue, and, in fact, didn’t need glasses that much at all.
So they looked into what might be causing that difference in outcomes, when the kids were living very similar lifestyles (so far as family incomes, and screen times, etc, etc went), and realized pretty soon that the difference was exposure to levels of sunlight.
So that of course made them think that Vitamin D levels might be to blame; but surprisingly, it wasn’t.
Ends up that, what with our eyes still being adapted for an outdoor, hunter/gatherer lifestyle, what our eyeballs need, in our childhoods particularly, is just to be looking around outside, at things in the distance, in sunlight.
It’s the exposure to the sunlight itself that makes the difference, and looking at stuff at the horizon, and not just in one’s immediate environs/within arm’s reach. And it also ends up that you only like fifteen minutes a day of looking around, outside, in daylight (with the sun on your face, not just out a window) to get the full benefits of it.
So they started having young schoolkids spending time outside each day (like we did with recess when I was a kid), and pretty soon they were able to see the impact on the percentage of kids requiring glasses, as I recall.
TL;DR: It’s not looking at screens all day that causes nearsightedness (although that can cause eyestrain); it’s not using our eyeballs the way they were evolved to, and just being outside during daylight hours, looking around at stuff further away, for like 15 minutes a day, is enough for kids to see a real change in their correct eyeball growth. Pun intended. Heh.
–I expect genetics still plays a part, though. But screens, not so much, it happily ends up.
Suzi
Meanwhile, I didn’t even own a screen until I was well into my teens, spent every day outside just about until I was 13, and have been blind as a bat since I was 7. Eyesight finally stopped changing at 17, finally got a laptop at 20, no change in nearsightedness.
Bodies are weird man.
DanSantos
Yeah, I was an outside kid and didn’t have even a TV in the house (weird, cult upbringing) and I was in need of glasses by the time I was 10. I needed them before, but it wasn’t really recognized what my problem was.
If you could find the paper/study that has the sunlight effects on eyesight, I would love to read it. I wouldn’t be surprised to SEE* that there is an effect, but I’m definitely not one of the examples of that effect.
*see** what I did there?
**see*** what I did there?
***se– eh, I’ll stop now.
Ed Rhodes
It’s misshapen eyeballs that cause near-sightedness. I don’t believe staring at a screen is going to cause that to happen.
Hinoron
Eyesight adapting to what you most use it for made perfect sense to me.
Greebs
When I first saw my brother in glasses, I immediately began giving him shit (little brother, gotta follow union rules)… until four months later when it was decreed I needed them as well…
Greebs
re-rolling…
Roborat
Keep going, you still have glasses.
cmasta1992
The cast page is already updated for anyone else who was curious like me
cmasta1992
NOPE. I will NOT be the worst character in the series
timemonkey
Mary and most of the parents still exist so can’t really see Malaya getting that title.
cmasta1992
Mary is garbage and narratively is treated like garbage. Malaya is garbage and is treated like neutral at worst. That bugs me more.
That Guy
Just my 2 cents here, take it with a grain of salt. Malaya is kind of a garbage person, but she makes no attempt at covering it. In fact she will say directly to your face that she’s not gonna be nice, and fuck off if you don’t like it. There’s a level of honesty to that. Much like Joe being a womanizing douche, he’s never tried to act like he isn’t, so there’s people who accept who he is. Mary is hot garbage and treats everyone else horribly but acts like she isn’t and doesn’t. She acts like she’s a perfect creature and everyone should love and respect her for being so great at what she’s doing, while putting everyone else down for doing anything different, and people the same as her also get scolded for not being good enough. That’s why she’s hated compared to tolerated.
Rainhat
I understand what you’re saying about Malaya, but I think I’ve had enough of “I’m terrible and want credit for being unashamed of my terribleness” for a lifetime at this point.
jam
Yeah, very much in agreement with that. I really don’t get why people they should think- oh, you’re a member of kitten-kicking action group, and you publicly lobby for kicking kittens, and whenever anyone says, hey, maybe don’t kick kittens, it hurts them, you say “Oh, I know it hurts the kittens, but I think it’s more important that I get to kick the kittens than that the kittens don’t get hurt.”? Oh, well, I guess that’s fine then.
Common sense
thats i am pretty suspicious of Booster right now.
if the meeting is anything to go by, we could be looking at another such character. thought its still to early to say for sure.
Transgressingwaffle
how did you change your Pic?
BBCC
Change the capitalization in your email.
Jo Giggles
Seriously?
JetstreamGW
When you make a change, it rerolls your gravatar if you haven’t set one manually.
Lumino
Let’s test, am I still Becky?
Lumino
Seems like there’s more to it.
HeySo
It being case-sensitive, and that being enough, is definitely the case for me. I can’t ever recall what capitalization I use* [no caps, capitalization at start, or capitalization per word], so I generally cycle through three consistent different avatars (Well, consistent up until the system gets tweaked and the avatar associations get shuffled around. Sometimes that’s a win, other times it’s.. not. :P)
*More precisely, I can’t reliably recall which capitalization I need to use to get (whatever avatar association is currently best and not awful). 😛
Diane
Yeah, I changed one cap, and it didn’t change, but I changed it to all caps and suddenly better character than Walky and Becky.
Deanatay
Remember, there’s a limited number of avatars in the system, so it’s possible for one captialization to give you the same avatar as another.
Jo Giggles
I didnt know that workedp
Reltzik
Seriously.
It assigns a grav based on your email address. Keep using the same email address and you keep getting the same grav. Change the email address, the pic changes too. (Probably. Sometimes you’ll get the same one again by luck.) But the grab-assigner is case-sensitive, and email addresses aren’t. So you can change which letters of your email address are capitalized and get a new grav.
Reltzik
Wait, what? How am I Roz now? I had Walky, dammit!
SaraHysaro
Nope, apparently not.
Diane
SAME! I was Carla, now I’m Sarah. I think we added in a Joyce with glasses somewhere, and it changed. I’m actually more happy with my results now, because I love Sarah the most (even if she’s a little mean, she’s not Malaya mean or Ruth mean).
Hilzabub
She’s mean but she cares, even if she doesn’t want to.
Anna
Oohhh. I want to see whom I’ll get this time, then.
Anna
Woh! I used to be Ruth!
SaraHysaro
Huh, am I still Dina?
Tunasammich
Maybe I’m wrong here, but doesn’t that also put your comment in moderation? I got a new computer and totally forgot what email address I was using on this site before, and I got a regular gravitar when I put in the address I use the most, but my comments all had to be approved for a while
Jamie
Here’s more information than you ever wanted, and also no guarantee that it’s relevant! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_table
Ed Rhodes
My email doesn’t have any capitalization. And I don’t like this picture.
thejeff
Then put some in. Capitalize a letter and see what happens.
Email itself ignores capitalization. The hashing algorithm that picks gravatars doesn’t.
Cattleprod
I had BJ Cat for a week or so there but now I’ve got Julia Gray, I haven’t changed anything at all on my end.
Kaffeeteria
I used to have Billie as my gravatar but now I’m Ruth. Not happy.
Kaffeeteria
Oops, changed again.
brionl
I like professor Robin.
Jamie
We are all professor Robin.
BarerMender
I had Billie. I was happy with Billie. I would like Ruth better. And I grant, Leslie is better than Galasso, who I was for a long damned time.
thejeff
Now I’m Ruth.
I’ll miss Sarah, who I was only so briefly, but I can accept Ruth.
thejeff
One try, just for the fun of it.
Casi
now i want to see if i’ve changed
Casi
I don’t want to be malaya!! Quick i must change again
hof1991
Or you can follow the Get a Gravatar link below and make it whatever you want. You don’t have to leave things to chance.
Diane
But the roulette is fun!
Alopex
Roulette is where we’re at
Jess
I mean, it could be worse. you could be blowjob cat
HeySo
I used to be a blowjob cat like you, but then I took an arrow pointing towards an exit sign under advisment, and now I’m knee-deep in other pursuits.
Ob
I was thinking, isn’t it kinda spoiler-ish to update the cast based on the latest developments in the comic? A new reader starting from the beginning is going to be pretty confused if they check the cast page before they start reading.
William A Egbert
Arguably it’s spoilerish to HAVE a cast page. Unless your cast page only has the characters that appeared in the first comic, described as they are in the first comic, it will spoil future character introductions, personalities, histories, and/or relationships.
Given that, the cast list isn’t for first-time readers. If anything, it’s for people who randomly wander into the page and, being insane, elect to just start with what’s in front of them rather than devoting a month and a half to reading several years of backstory.
He Who Abides
The tags have been more spoiler-ish, honestly.
*glares at Jocelyn tag*
He Who Abides
BBCC’s gonna slit my throat for this Gravatar, aren’t they?
Nicole
Ooo who am I gonna be?
Nicole
Yeah this kinda fits with who I was in freshman year of college
Ivy
Look…undoubtedly Joyce has her strong points. But the level of upkeep and hand-holding required to be her friend would be waaayyyy too much for me, I’d be exhausted after three days.
Nono
Joyce is a great friend during crisis.
Everyday life with her is a crisis.
Rainhat
This isn’t quite as bad as the grape juice thing. But yeah, she’d be exhausting.
It’d be interesting to see someone basically well-disposed to Joyce, but who just can’t keep up with this stuff. (“Do we ever hit bottom on this?”)
Queezle
Oh yes, while it is good for me to have friends that are a little more extroverted than I am, Joyce probably would be a little much for me.
Pagemistress
Well, I think they look good on Joyce.
Pagemistress
Okay, I like this gravatar!
Katherine
I, like sarah, think the colour is nice.
He Who Abides
Those look cute, if a little teal.
Also, Joyce? That is Sarah freaking out.
He Who Abides
Oh c’mon, I liked Fuckface.
LiterallyJustSomeGuy
Oh, did the avatars just reroll to add Joyce-with-glasses to the mix?
King Daniel
Seems like. I miss my Asher-and-Billie pair of gravs (depending on whether I capitalized a letter or not) already. 😛
King Daniel
*Asher-and-Jennifer, I meant. Still getting used to the change.
BBCC