If she can’t entice girls to seduce Joe, perhaps she can entice Jacob to seduce Joyce
Angel
jacob’s def gonna turn her down considering it didn’t work the first time joyce ‘pretended to be his gf’ lol.
HueSatLight
as complicated as things were, he might care enough about Joyce to tell Sarah to think about what she’s actually doing to her.
Needfuldoer
If he and Joe still work out together, he might already know about them.
I’m hoping this doesn’t work out the way Sarah planned in her head, and he ends up talking her down.
Mark
Did I miss a strip? What is the way Sarah planned this in her head?
I don’t suppose her plan now is simply to get Jacob to convince Joe not to defile poor helpless Joyce.
Needfuldoer
Torpedoing a relationship by throwing a third party at it worked for her last time, why shouldn’t it work for her this time?
Mark
Ah, so we’re guessing — we don’t know her plan.
Needfuldoer
Her goal is to get Joe away from Joyce, and she’s flailing around looking for a means to that end. If that means using Jacob to tempt Joyce away, in her view so be it.
Octo
She pretty much spelled out the plan when she tried to get Dorothy, now she’s just substituting Jacob for Dorothy because the latter isn’t available at the moment.
Laura
And, Joe has already expressed and shown to Jacob how deeply he cares about Joyce.
Gotta admit, my first thought was that she was going to try to get Jacob to seduce Joe. Second was that she was going to try to seduce Jacob herself, to make Joyce jealous, which would… break up Joe and Joyce… somehow? It was only after that I arrived at the presumably obvious Jacob/Joyce.
Sarah should just go back to that second plan. Maybe if she were getting laid, it’d distract her from trying to control Joyce’s relationship decisions. She could even frame it as a shot at Raidah if it made her feel better.
Not gonna find them in America at least. The melanesians are a group where it’s more common. There’s a theory that it comes from mixing with Europeans years ago but it’s so far down the line that it’s negligible in all other aspects
even if he’s mixed i’d assume the darker hair color would be a more dominant gene and it’d be more of the style than color like ‘blasian’ hair being a slightly diff texture
i have seen some black ppl having dark red hair but it’s usually a wig/extensions or dye tho.
that said it would be nice to see joyce’s reaction idk if they’ve talked in a while but hopefully they can have a normal convo ,sarah interference aside. (who knows maybe he could be dating a random girl rn and they can have a double date lol)
One of my cousins is mixed race; his hair has tight curls and brown-with-blond-highlights coloration. His skin is closer to ‘permanent California beach bum tan’, though. Given how dark Jacob appears, I doubt his hair has much by way of natural highlights like that in his hair, either.
and probably unappreciative of sarah’s proposal considering he directly told her and joyce that he didn’t like how some ppl will never see him as more than a sexual object.
The guy that she screwed up her chance with. And the guy that Joyce also screwed up her chance with. And she’s gonna try and bring him back into basically both their lives…
Why no… no, there’s no possible way this could backfire.
But it looks like Jacob has long since moved past that. Maybe we can be a little optimistic?
I feel it’s important to note Sarah never screwed up a chance with him. She just never tried because she didn’t think she deserved him, cause he’s looking for love and she just seems him as a sex object. That’s relevant cause I think her plan has a huge chance of backfiring into herself.
To be honest, I don’t know if it’s even the sex object thing, like she obviously thinks he is hot, but I think her general misanthropy is the issue. She’s ludicrously cynical and bitter, and to want to date Jacob would mean letting someone in and being supremely vulnerable. Sarah does not do vulnerable, at least as of yet.
Imagine a Westworld-like campus, thousands of students and faculty just sitting in their dorms staring into the middle distance until they’re needed as a side or background character.
That’s not actually on Sarah at all. She’s only guilty of having bad intentions. Joyce and Jacob fucked up their situation by themselves. Technically Joe is more responsible for that cause he’s actually the one that introduced them, or even Joyce for ironically trying to help Sarah. Sarah just moved herself out the way and enjoyed that it hurt Raidah.
Sarah 100% pointed Joyce at Jacob and Raidah as a seeker missile solely to hurt Raidah. Sure, this doesn’t absolve Joyce and Jacob of their decisions, but it sure as shit doesn’t let Sarah off the hook either.
thejeff
It doesn’t, but Sarah did think better of it and tell Joyce to stop. Or at least not to do it for her.
It was too late though. Joyce was already doing it for herself.
Sirksome
She didn’t. I feel like people are misremembering the whole thing. Yes, Sarah did have a plot to break up Jacob and Raidah, but she didn’t point Joyce at him. Randomly running into Joe and Jacob having lunch at Galasso’s is not weaponing Joyce or fucking with Jacob’s life. They made plans to hangout before Sarah even hatched a break up plot.
Like the most proactive thing I can find Sarah doing was encouraging Joyce to wear a pretty dress to church. I think she may have through Becky somehow gotten Jacob to deliver Joyce grape juice once. This is enough that Sarah felt she needed to apologize by the way. Mostly because Joyce initiating her own plans to try and hook Sarah and Jacob up were only getting her closer to him instead. But Sarah didn’t do anything. She didn’t tell Joyce to break her toe trying to workout so Jacob could carry her like a princess.
If there are examples I’ll take it all back by the way. Not trying to be confrontational. I just can’t find or think of anything Sarah actually did. She’s only guilty of hating Raidah but their relationship was sinking as soon as Joyce and Jacob met. You can criticize Sarah for enjoying that, but just having plans doesn’t actually mean anything.
This is what I’m talking about. This happened after Jacob and Joyce already met and made the church date. He even asked Raidah if it was okay and she didn’t see Joyce as a threat. Sarah told Joyce to wear a nice dress once for plans Joyce and Jacob already made. Her big scheme was basically just sitting back and letting their natural chemistry do the work.
Sarah’s definitely an asshole for wanting a relationship to break over a personal rivalry, but blaming her for that feels misplaced.
Schpoonman
I think that’s obfuscating how Sarah initially leaned into it. She noticed Joyce and Jacob’s chemistry and then pushed Joyce more into getting into Jacob’s good graces. Neither Joyce nor Jacob are absolved of their responsibility, but when someone’s teetering on an edge and they’re pushed off, it’s absolutely right to say “Well, the shove didn’t help at all.”
This isn’t a court of law, this is interpersonal relationships and emotional reactions. If he knew Sarah’s intent was to break him and Raidah up, using Joyce if needed, but Sarah didn’t plan the details of having Joyce pretend to be his girlfriend to his brother, I’m pretty sure that would still register as her trying to fuck with his life. Maybe there’s enough time passed that if he knew, he wouldn’t hold a grudge, but “It’s your life, man. Have some respect for your own life,” feels like it would have bothered him at the time.
i read every new strip with one eye closed and holding my fist in front of the other eye obscuring everything but the first panel, then slowly move my hand as i continue reading. SPECIFICALLY for strips like this one
200 thoughts on “Laid-back”
Ana Chronistic
playing hardball now
or just hard lol
(waiting for Sarah to open her eyes and completely forget the whole plan tho)
NGPZ
Take me out to the ball game!!! XD
Thag Simmons
I do not know how you could fit Jacob into this plan. I see a lot of possibilities and they’re all terrible
We just got him back Sarah, don’t scare him away for another three years
PASchaefer
Holy schnikies, it really has been three and a half years. The mind boggles.
Samniel
I’m pretty sure Sarah’s already thinking of several ways she can fit Jacob. Oh, into the plan? Yeah, no, not there
furubatsu
If she can’t entice girls to seduce Joe, perhaps she can entice Jacob to seduce Joyce
Angel
jacob’s def gonna turn her down considering it didn’t work the first time joyce ‘pretended to be his gf’ lol.
HueSatLight
as complicated as things were, he might care enough about Joyce to tell Sarah to think about what she’s actually doing to her.
Needfuldoer
If he and Joe still work out together, he might already know about them.
I’m hoping this doesn’t work out the way Sarah planned in her head, and he ends up talking her down.
Mark
Did I miss a strip? What is the way Sarah planned this in her head?
I don’t suppose her plan now is simply to get Jacob to convince Joe not to defile poor helpless Joyce.
Needfuldoer
Torpedoing a relationship by throwing a third party at it worked for her last time, why shouldn’t it work for her this time?
Mark
Ah, so we’re guessing — we don’t know her plan.
Needfuldoer
Her goal is to get Joe away from Joyce, and she’s flailing around looking for a means to that end. If that means using Jacob to tempt Joyce away, in her view so be it.
Octo
She pretty much spelled out the plan when she tried to get Dorothy, now she’s just substituting Jacob for Dorothy because the latter isn’t available at the moment.
Laura
And, Joe has already expressed and shown to Jacob how deeply he cares about Joyce.
John Campbell
Gotta admit, my first thought was that she was going to try to get Jacob to seduce Joe. Second was that she was going to try to seduce Jacob herself, to make Joyce jealous, which would… break up Joe and Joyce… somehow? It was only after that I arrived at the presumably obvious Jacob/Joyce.
Sarah should just go back to that second plan. Maybe if she were getting laid, it’d distract her from trying to control Joyce’s relationship decisions. She could even frame it as a shot at Raidah if it made her feel better.
davidbreslin101
I was actually struggling to remember who he is!
Corronchilejano
Never let horniness get in the way of making people hate each other.
clif
Yeah, I didn’t expect this twist. Makes sense tho.
Jo_cubstar
Just wondering “Jen Aside” from like a decade ago was your old screen name, right?
Jo_cubstar
That was meant to be directed at Ana
Amós Batista
everybody in Dumbing of Age is so hot, I’m even considering Ross
Doctor_Who
Weird way to announce a foot fetish, but you do you.
Decidedly Orthogonal
And here I am, all out of reddit gold. Have some unigold awards instead:
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Doctor_Who
I’ll give Sarah this, when she decides to become a disaster she doesn’t do it by halfs.
It’s like if the “This is fine” dog was walking around with a can of gasoline to sprinkle everywhere.
Ophidiophile
On the flip side, she must place a very high value on Joyce if she is willing to stoop this low.
Yumi
Yes, finally, he returns!
Koname
I have been scared for years now that he just left the school entirely after the first semester because of the bit with Joyce.
NGPZ
Oh wow, wait is Jacob a natural blonde or no?
Kyrik Michalowski
I think he has bleached his hair; it is very rare to have blonde hair when the person is black.
Thag Simmons
It does happen sometimes, usually if they’ve got mixed heritage. That said this is clearly bleached
Leorale
Most of the timeskip haircuts were improvements!
I’m not a fan of the blonde top on him. But hey, it’s his head, he’ll do what he likes.
Yumi
Or he could have lost a bet. There are possibilities.
(I actually don’t feel any particular way about his hair, but I’d find it funny if it distracted Sarah from her plan for a strip.)
NGPZ
Distracted? Probably not, given she’s so damn fixated on tearing Joe and Joyce apart enough to even consider turning to Jacob.
NGPZ
*that she considered turning to Jacob.
Thag Simmons
I like having him grow his hair out a bit and while the bleaching isn’t a great look but it’s believable that the character would go for it.
Nono
It’s also rare to pull it off but he does it well.
Yumi
Also to have black roots and natural blonde hair, but that does remind me of a scene from Fruits Basket…
(I know the idea here would be that he’s still dying the shorter hair, but like… that’s not what’s happening, so anyway.)
Dante
[CACKLES]
Oh, that one’s a work of art. Thank you for the flashbacks.
zee
Not gonna find them in America at least. The melanesians are a group where it’s more common. There’s a theory that it comes from mixing with Europeans years ago but it’s so far down the line that it’s negligible in all other aspects
thejeff
That theory doesn’t seem to hold up.
The genetic mechanism for blond hair in melanesians is different from the one in Europeans
Doctor_Who
He’s trying to cheer up his roomie Ethan by pretending to be Mike.
Jacob: “Hey Ethan, look! Grrr, I’m angry and blond! I will make sweet love to your mother for discount prices!”
Ethan: “Weirdly enough, this helps.”
NGPZ
awe fuck, i didn’t even think of it from THAT angle 😮
Nono
Well, Jacob did have sex with a mom in the other universe…
pig
This made me chuckle, thank you!
Angel
even if he’s mixed i’d assume the darker hair color would be a more dominant gene and it’d be more of the style than color like ‘blasian’ hair being a slightly diff texture
i have seen some black ppl having dark red hair but it’s usually a wig/extensions or dye tho.
that said it would be nice to see joyce’s reaction idk if they’ve talked in a while but hopefully they can have a normal convo ,sarah interference aside. (who knows maybe he could be dating a random girl rn and they can have a double date lol)
Freemage
One of my cousins is mixed race; his hair has tight curls and brown-with-blond-highlights coloration. His skin is closer to ‘permanent California beach bum tan’, though. Given how dark Jacob appears, I doubt his hair has much by way of natural highlights like that in his hair, either.
Sirksome
Jacob’s still alive. I guess he’ll be relevant again now.
Angel
and probably unappreciative of sarah’s proposal considering he directly told her and joyce that he didn’t like how some ppl will never see him as more than a sexual object.
Thag Simmons
He’s back! with a timeskip new hairstyle at that
Laura
…And… is that… orange lipstick I see? Very posh! I love that look on him. So smooth.
DiDi
Oh no… Oh Sarah… Holy shit.
The guy that she screwed up her chance with. And the guy that Joyce also screwed up her chance with. And she’s gonna try and bring him back into basically both their lives…
Why no… no, there’s no possible way this could backfire.
But it looks like Jacob has long since moved past that. Maybe we can be a little optimistic?
Sirksome
I feel it’s important to note Sarah never screwed up a chance with him. She just never tried because she didn’t think she deserved him, cause he’s looking for love and she just seems him as a sex object. That’s relevant cause I think her plan has a huge chance of backfiring into herself.
DailyBrad
To be honest, I don’t know if it’s even the sex object thing, like she obviously thinks he is hot, but I think her general misanthropy is the issue. She’s ludicrously cynical and bitter, and to want to date Jacob would mean letting someone in and being supremely vulnerable. Sarah does not do vulnerable, at least as of yet.
Angel
Jacob gets to exist again!
HueSatLight
Imagine a Westworld-like campus, thousands of students and faculty just sitting in their dorms staring into the middle distance until they’re needed as a side or background character.
Just an Armadillo
Good to see Jacob again. Bad to see Sarah showing up to fuck with his life again.
Alongcameaspider
Is he even aware of her part in that whole debacle?
Sirksome
That’s not actually on Sarah at all. She’s only guilty of having bad intentions. Joyce and Jacob fucked up their situation by themselves. Technically Joe is more responsible for that cause he’s actually the one that introduced them, or even Joyce for ironically trying to help Sarah. Sarah just moved herself out the way and enjoyed that it hurt Raidah.
Lumino
Bullshit.
Sarah 100% pointed Joyce at Jacob and Raidah as a seeker missile solely to hurt Raidah. Sure, this doesn’t absolve Joyce and Jacob of their decisions, but it sure as shit doesn’t let Sarah off the hook either.
thejeff
It doesn’t, but Sarah did think better of it and tell Joyce to stop. Or at least not to do it for her.
It was too late though. Joyce was already doing it for herself.
Sirksome
She didn’t. I feel like people are misremembering the whole thing. Yes, Sarah did have a plot to break up Jacob and Raidah, but she didn’t point Joyce at him. Randomly running into Joe and Jacob having lunch at Galasso’s is not weaponing Joyce or fucking with Jacob’s life. They made plans to hangout before Sarah even hatched a break up plot.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/02-everything-youve-ever-wanted/corner/
Jacob liked Joyce. He heard about her and admired her for saving Becky from Ross kidnapping attempt 1.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/02-everything-youve-ever-wanted/boyspizzaretreat/
Like the most proactive thing I can find Sarah doing was encouraging Joyce to wear a pretty dress to church. I think she may have through Becky somehow gotten Jacob to deliver Joyce grape juice once. This is enough that Sarah felt she needed to apologize by the way. Mostly because Joyce initiating her own plans to try and hook Sarah and Jacob up were only getting her closer to him instead. But Sarah didn’t do anything. She didn’t tell Joyce to break her toe trying to workout so Jacob could carry her like a princess.
If there are examples I’ll take it all back by the way. Not trying to be confrontational. I just can’t find or think of anything Sarah actually did. She’s only guilty of hating Raidah but their relationship was sinking as soon as Joyce and Jacob met. You can criticize Sarah for enjoying that, but just having plans doesn’t actually mean anything.
thejeff
How about this?
Sirksome
This is what I’m talking about. This happened after Jacob and Joyce already met and made the church date. He even asked Raidah if it was okay and she didn’t see Joyce as a threat. Sarah told Joyce to wear a nice dress once for plans Joyce and Jacob already made. Her big scheme was basically just sitting back and letting their natural chemistry do the work.
Sarah’s definitely an asshole for wanting a relationship to break over a personal rivalry, but blaming her for that feels misplaced.
Schpoonman
I think that’s obfuscating how Sarah initially leaned into it. She noticed Joyce and Jacob’s chemistry and then pushed Joyce more into getting into Jacob’s good graces. Neither Joyce nor Jacob are absolved of their responsibility, but when someone’s teetering on an edge and they’re pushed off, it’s absolutely right to say “Well, the shove didn’t help at all.”
HueSatLight
This isn’t a court of law, this is interpersonal relationships and emotional reactions. If he knew Sarah’s intent was to break him and Raidah up, using Joyce if needed, but Sarah didn’t plan the details of having Joyce pretend to be his girlfriend to his brother, I’m pretty sure that would still register as her trying to fuck with his life. Maybe there’s enough time passed that if he knew, he wouldn’t hold a grudge, but “It’s your life, man. Have some respect for your own life,” feels like it would have bothered him at the time.
RassilonTDavros
…I suppose I should have expected a new ‘do for his first post-timeskip appearance, but I definitely wasn’t expecting this particular one.
Thag Simmons
I was expecting something like a Killmonger cut, which this sort of resembles but the exact details are pretty surprising
quark
:O!!! jacob!!!!!
quark
i read every new strip with one eye closed and holding my fist in front of the other eye obscuring everything but the first panel, then slowly move my hand as i continue reading. SPECIFICALLY for strips like this one
Nono
I just realised both residents of that room have “dated” Joyce before. Wonder if that led to any awkward conversations.
BBCC