Never understood why that’s supposedly such a big thing. It’s not like the seat is that hard to move up or down so why is it a big deal if sometimes the woman has to lower it herself?
Acquired habits. A lady rarely, if ever, needs to raise the toilet seat for use. So after 20-30 years you build habits. You’re tired, gotta pee, go into the bathroom, sit down automatically, and fall in (or sit directly on the bowl).
Jade
What Hutt said. As a woman with four brothers, I’m used to putting the seat down and honestly don’t care, but my female friends who are only children or have only sisters think it’s the evilest trap that can befall a poor naked butt.
Cholma
Which I don’t understand… who leaves the toilet seat COVER open all the time? CLOSE THAT THING BEFORE YOU FLUSH! Ick.
smashman42
That’s just asking for something to stay behind to surprise the next person to open the cover.
Though I may be over vigilant thanks to the ‘water saving’ toilets we have to have that you actually have to flush twice (at least) so end up using slightly more water than the old ones.
Cholma
Hold the lever down when flushing until you hear the actual “swoosh” of the flush, and you’ll never have that problem. (holding the lever keeps the flapper valve in the tank open, so that more of the water in the tank will be used)
smashman42
Doesn’t work when these new ones have a teeny capacity, holding down only lets about another litre out. I’ve tested it with the top off the cistern. It needs two full undersized cisterns to flush properly. Not sure if it is a problem with all the toilets under the new standard here or if ours is just designed badly.
Really I should be shutting the lid, holding down the button, then checking while it refills. But I’m lazy
TheAmazingWeasleman
I feel you on all of that Smash. Low-flow fills me with rage.
SweetJackal
It means your low-flow is a cheap one and as such poorly designed. The more expensive low flow toilets are more expensive because they have a proper flow for the water and operate better than higher flow models, being that they will clear what would clog a higher flow because good low flows course like a raging river.
Investing into a proper low flow toilet will save you a pretty penny on your water bill over the years and if you are renting it would be worth while to inquire with your landlord about it.
Truk2
Of course that assumes a full load number 2 flush is required at the time. The watersaver also cancel out the unnecessary flush volume for number 1’s, and people doing random flushes for other things. It maynot handle everything on one flush, but it significantly reduces waste across the population.
Making you flush twices sometimes is an acceptable price for that.
GreyDefender
This is the only website where I’ve seen a serious discussion about toilets on a web page that has nothing to do with toilets. I am somehow okay with this.
Mishyana
It may help to convince you to close the lid before flushing to look up stats on exactly how many… ‘particulates’ come out of the toilet, and how far they go, when you flush…
Betty Anne
Mythbusters did it. AND they discovered how many of those ‘particulates’ can end up on your toothbrush. :3
weirderthanweird
I just had a rat come up from the toilet pipes. Covers should always be left down
figureaddict
Yes, as a guy, I always close the lid, who the hell wants to walk into a bathroom and look into a toilet, I don’t. And, as stated, yuck, it does spray a little when you flush, so close the lid first, super easy!
wynne
I once read an article about how toilet spray can spread up to 6 feet in all directions after you flush, and since then have been firmly in the “just put down the whole cover, that way everyone’s equal” camp.
A Scientist
The lack of covers in public restrooms irks me because of the spray. Especially where I work, where the flush is so violent if I don’t escape the stall in time, I can feel it.
Gnomita
Absolutely concur. Equal opportunity in my house. Seat lid goes down after each toilet user uses the toilet so that we both are expected to follow the same rules. The only time anything is “left behind” is in the middle of the night when the horrible old plumbing would wake everyone with a single flush. We always can tell someone from outside our household has used out toilet because the lid and sometimes the seat will be up.
beoluves
Your toilets must be huge because I have never fallen into any and it’s not even something I could manage while trying.
That said, it’s a common courtesy to lower the seat, although I thought it was the top one.
de Combys
Last time I fell in a toilet I was a kid. That being said, I know many kid-sized women.
Ana Chronistic
YAY I HAVE A COMPUTER AGAIN
I have *ONLY* ever once *sat* on the bare toilet seat, because I was sleepy and only half-looked, but I have never fallen in. That said, I check EVEN IN THE LADIES’ ROOM because the cleaning crew leaves the seat up to show it’s been cleaned.
We also habitually put the lid down because otherwise shit might fall in (err, the shit you DON’T want falling in, that is).
thejeff
I don’t know. Look before you sit down. On anything.
There might be a cat on it.
When it’s the middle of the night and you have photophobia (an extreme sensitivity to light, not a fear of light, I don’t know what idiot named it that) so the bathroom is pitch black? Good luck looking at anything before you sit down
lightsabermario
Vampires named it that. When you think about it, it makes perfect sense.
Ana Chronistic
nightlight
Breetzy
A phobia is defined as either a fear or an aversion to something, so it makes sense if you use the second definition. Light causes pain, so is therefore avoided.
In my experience, it’s never the toilet seat itself, it’s usually that the toilet seat is part of a pattern of many little problems which boil down to “he can’t be bothered to do small, considerate things.”
Sam
This is likely a part of it. When it is part of a chain of inconsiderate behaviours it can be really really really aggravating as it can be part of a ‘stack’ of things that’d take seconds or five minutes to do.
Leorale
Many generations ago, the rabbis of the Talmud discussed a law that you could divorce somebody because she burned the soup. They decided that this is not about the specific soup — instead, it’s because, if this is the kind of relationship where somebody wants to divorce over something that ridiculously inconsequential, then woah, they should just divorce already.
chris2315
“‘Til soup do us part.”
Seriously, though, this is the kind of stuff that makes me not believe in marriage at all. A marriage is nothing more than a promise to make it a real pain the in a** when you want to break up.
chris2315
*in the
SgtWadeyWilson
Two things:
1.) The word choice of “when you want to break up” sounds more like a commitment problem. Not trying to be rude, but an if/when fits better. It’s a good point, though.
2.) Ideally marriage is a celebration of not wanting to break up that comes with rewards for that devotion.
chris2315
Ideally, yeah. The whole point of a marriage is that, to show your commitment to the other, you literally sign a contract that says you’re going to stay together forever. The entire concept falls apart when it becomes so easy to get out of said contract that a couple can get married and divorced in the same day.
Personally, I’m of the school of thought that the contract (and the ridiculously expensive ceremony) shouldn’t be necessary at all. If you love someone, do you really need to get a priest and your local government involved?
Ana Chronistic
saw this late but have to leave a comment for posterity:
If you love someone, marriage isn’t necessary, no.
But if you want the benefits of having your union recognized by everyone else, so you have a clear delineation of heirs, hospital visitation rights, the ability to claim your spouse as a dependent for taxes or insurance, etc., why wouldn’t you get “that piece of paper”?
Orrrrr you could just marry someone you don’t plan on breaking up with ever? That means getting to know them first, living with them for awhile first so you know if they have any deal-breaking habits, and also none of this wanting to change a person crap. “If I’m a good enough wife/husband, they’ll change” “If they love me enough they’ll change” “If we have kids they’ll change” all of this crap is bullshit and does not belong in a relationship and is probably the biggest reason why relationships fail.
thejeff
I think very few people marry anyone they plan on breaking up with.
And yet, divorces happen. Sometimes after many happy years. There’s even some evidence that those who live together first are more likely to divorce.
Liliet
The more I hear about Jewish law, the more I want to be Jewish…
Adam Black
Slut-shaming has nothing on Kosher
Cheeseburger-shaming, or pepperoni pizza-shaming.
thejeff
Pretty much this. None of the things are a big deal in and of themselves, but when you’re already stressed and in constant contact with someone all the constant tiny irritations pile up until they explode and there’s a big fight about apparently nothing. Pure human nature and it’s hard work to avoid.
Change the fucking empty toilet roll already. Don’t just leave the new one on top; it takes all of SIX SECONDS to do it. I know perfectly well it’s just a passive-aggressive comment on the fact that you think I don’t do enough housework. Well, guess what? I’m already doing all of the housework that anybody does, and you being unwilling to take six seconds to put the new roll on the holder just emphasizes to me, every damn time, that nothing gets done around here unless I do it. No matter how small or simple it is.
And I’d be a lot more willing to run with that whole “you’re unemployed now, so you do all the housework” bit if (a) when I was employed, it wasn’t still all on me; (b) when I had longer hours than you (but wasn’t making as much money, which was the important metric), it was still all on me; (c) when we worked the same hours but I made more (but your job was more stressful, that being the important metric), it was still all on me; and (d) when I was working full time, supporting us both, and you were unemployed, it was still all on me.
Honestly, I don’t know how we’ve lasted as long as we have. The toilet seat (or the toilet paper roll) and how much annoyance it causes is probably an excellent metric of how a marriage is doing. >:(
This was 80% of the reason I left my husband. It ruined our marriage. It’s damaged our friendship. I’m sorry you have to deal with this, and I wish you luck.
For me it’s a big deal because you should completely (cover and all) close the toilet before flushing or you are misting the entire bathroom in whatever you just sent down the toilet.
I get why people care, but I still judge them for missing it (and I’m a cis woman).
I guess I’m a pretty paranoid person, but I don’t think I’d ever sit down anywhere, let alone on a toilet without looking first at what I was about to sit on.
smashman42
Had a snake in the bowl before. Not looking is dangerous. (just a python but still, those teeth down there?!)
de Combys
Where the hell do you live??
chris2315
I would assume Australia.
smashman42
Ya, the land down under where everything wants to kill you
RIP12081990
Unfortunately this can be true worldwide if anyone in the same road as you owns a pet snake and it escapes I had the same experience and I live in England
I’ve encountered live centipedes in the bowl before, and those things are venomous. Bleh. (and yes I mean real centipedes not those house centipede things)
Kamino Neko
House centipedes are real centipedes…thankfully relatively tiny ones, but still…real centipedes.
Kryss LaBryn
Not tiny where my friend in Michigan was; those bastards were eight inches long. She’d squish them with her bare hands; I would have screamed and run away.
It can be seen as being inconsiderate over all because if we assume you are in a one male, one female living situation, 75% of the time the toilet seat will have to be down for use, and they’re more likely to need it next if you have just gone.
For me, it is bothersome because it means you are flushing without putting the lid down which is gross as it can send germs all about the room.
a snow mous e
But does that lead to more germs than leaving it up? Doesn’t Bernoulli’s principle mean that it will rush in through narrow spaces like the one between the seat and lid?
Random832
Germs being sent all over the room is a foregone conclusion anyway (though, I’m not sure what toilets all the people who say this this are using that flush with high enough pressure to “spray” anything), and putting the lid down runs the risk of it overflowing and you noticing too late.
Random832
I mean, commercial toilets, sure, but those don’t even have lids.
Random832
That works if the goal is to maximize the number of times that it’s already in the position for what the next person needs it for (it’d still work even if I didn’t grant your assumption that “#2” comprises 50% of times any given person needs to use the restroom), but not if the goal is to equalize the division of toilet-seat-moving labor.
Because it’s not primarily a gender issue, it’s a health one. It looks gross and is unhygienic. And having everybody put the seat/lid back down as part of the toilet-using-procedure is equitable. No one complains about having to close the refrigerator door. It’s part of the process of using the fridge. I truly don’t care what people do in their own homes, but…just leave things as you find them when you’re a guest in others’? It’s very appreciated. 🙂
Raibean
I’m gonna be honest… Sometimes, when people leave the lid down, I don’t notice and then my bare ass is on the toilet lid. And I don’t know where the cleaner is in a stranger’s house.
Random832
The problem with that is that a toilet with the seat down but the lid up doesn’t actually look less gross than one with the seat up, assuming the bowl rim is clean (and why wouldn’t it be? literally nothing ever touches it) and the bowl interior being visible is what your objection is to… and very few people seem to clearly advocate for putting the lid down (even you just now said “seat/lid” as if they’re in any way equivalent… to people whose objection is “I sometimes sit on the toilet blind” the lid down is just as bad as the seat up, and Raibean here is not by any means the first person I’ve heard it from)
Kryss LaBryn
I fell in once when I was about five. I have learned to feel to verify the seat position in the dark, no matter how tired I am, which works for lid down as well as seat up.
It was cold and wet and I couldn’t get out. I had to call my mum to pull me out. 🙁
That said, though, the rim is usually the grossest part of any toilet I’ve seen, because people inevitably sprinkle (or spray, if the seat is down) onto it, and it gets nasty quickly if it’s not wiped up immediately.
I think the real question is: Why are people with penises treating toilets like they are urinals? Stand at a urinal; sit on a toilet. The rule holds for any gender.
ChrisHerself
I agree, seat down but lid up is still gross. I should have said seat+lid instead of seat/lid. I meant them as a package deal but the slash could have easily read as ‘or’. Whoops.
We always had cats when I was a kid, including one that loved to drink faucet. He’d jump from the floor to the toilet, then up to the sink, without really paying attention to the path.
*Drink from the faucet. He didn’t actually drink faucets, that would be weird.
Thorbjorn
Drinking the faucet would mean the cat had fire breath so he could melt it, and have a stomach that could process very high temperatures and liquid metals.
Actually a cat that could drink a faucet would be pretty cool.
I have one of those cats right now! And he gets VERY angry (though so far thankfully not very “wet”) when a guest is in our house and the toilet lid is left up.
Ana Chronistic
My parents got cats after I moved out (whyyyyyyy), and one of them legit drinks straight from the toilet, so my mother leaves the seat up for him.
377 thoughts on “Linger”
Ana Chronistic
he forgot to leave the seat down
*wonders how many terrible relationships actually ended over something like that*
Heff
I’m glad you’re back as the top comment. It was jarring to see another name.
darkoneko
Pfff.
MichaelLanting
Never understood why that’s supposedly such a big thing. It’s not like the seat is that hard to move up or down so why is it a big deal if sometimes the woman has to lower it herself?
Huttj509
Acquired habits. A lady rarely, if ever, needs to raise the toilet seat for use. So after 20-30 years you build habits. You’re tired, gotta pee, go into the bathroom, sit down automatically, and fall in (or sit directly on the bowl).
Jade
What Hutt said. As a woman with four brothers, I’m used to putting the seat down and honestly don’t care, but my female friends who are only children or have only sisters think it’s the evilest trap that can befall a poor naked butt.
Cholma
Which I don’t understand… who leaves the toilet seat COVER open all the time? CLOSE THAT THING BEFORE YOU FLUSH! Ick.
smashman42
That’s just asking for something to stay behind to surprise the next person to open the cover.
Though I may be over vigilant thanks to the ‘water saving’ toilets we have to have that you actually have to flush twice (at least) so end up using slightly more water than the old ones.
Cholma
Hold the lever down when flushing until you hear the actual “swoosh” of the flush, and you’ll never have that problem. (holding the lever keeps the flapper valve in the tank open, so that more of the water in the tank will be used)
smashman42
Doesn’t work when these new ones have a teeny capacity, holding down only lets about another litre out. I’ve tested it with the top off the cistern. It needs two full undersized cisterns to flush properly. Not sure if it is a problem with all the toilets under the new standard here or if ours is just designed badly.
Really I should be shutting the lid, holding down the button, then checking while it refills. But I’m lazy
TheAmazingWeasleman
I feel you on all of that Smash. Low-flow fills me with rage.
SweetJackal
It means your low-flow is a cheap one and as such poorly designed. The more expensive low flow toilets are more expensive because they have a proper flow for the water and operate better than higher flow models, being that they will clear what would clog a higher flow because good low flows course like a raging river.
Investing into a proper low flow toilet will save you a pretty penny on your water bill over the years and if you are renting it would be worth while to inquire with your landlord about it.
Truk2
Of course that assumes a full load number 2 flush is required at the time. The watersaver also cancel out the unnecessary flush volume for number 1’s, and people doing random flushes for other things. It maynot handle everything on one flush, but it significantly reduces waste across the population.
Making you flush twices sometimes is an acceptable price for that.
GreyDefender
This is the only website where I’ve seen a serious discussion about toilets on a web page that has nothing to do with toilets. I am somehow okay with this.
Mishyana
It may help to convince you to close the lid before flushing to look up stats on exactly how many… ‘particulates’ come out of the toilet, and how far they go, when you flush…
Betty Anne
Mythbusters did it. AND they discovered how many of those ‘particulates’ can end up on your toothbrush. :3
weirderthanweird
I just had a rat come up from the toilet pipes. Covers should always be left down
figureaddict
Yes, as a guy, I always close the lid, who the hell wants to walk into a bathroom and look into a toilet, I don’t. And, as stated, yuck, it does spray a little when you flush, so close the lid first, super easy!
wynne
I once read an article about how toilet spray can spread up to 6 feet in all directions after you flush, and since then have been firmly in the “just put down the whole cover, that way everyone’s equal” camp.
A Scientist
The lack of covers in public restrooms irks me because of the spray. Especially where I work, where the flush is so violent if I don’t escape the stall in time, I can feel it.
Gnomita
Absolutely concur. Equal opportunity in my house. Seat lid goes down after each toilet user uses the toilet so that we both are expected to follow the same rules. The only time anything is “left behind” is in the middle of the night when the horrible old plumbing would wake everyone with a single flush. We always can tell someone from outside our household has used out toilet because the lid and sometimes the seat will be up.
beoluves
Your toilets must be huge because I have never fallen into any and it’s not even something I could manage while trying.
That said, it’s a common courtesy to lower the seat, although I thought it was the top one.
de Combys
Last time I fell in a toilet I was a kid. That being said, I know many kid-sized women.
Ana Chronistic
YAY I HAVE A COMPUTER AGAIN
I have *ONLY* ever once *sat* on the bare toilet seat, because I was sleepy and only half-looked, but I have never fallen in. That said, I check EVEN IN THE LADIES’ ROOM because the cleaning crew leaves the seat up to show it’s been cleaned.
We also habitually put the lid down because otherwise shit might fall in (err, the shit you DON’T want falling in, that is).
thejeff
I don’t know. Look before you sit down. On anything.
There might be a cat on it.
Or a dead mouse. Or some vomit. 🙂
Dragon_Nataku
When it’s the middle of the night and you have photophobia (an extreme sensitivity to light, not a fear of light, I don’t know what idiot named it that) so the bathroom is pitch black? Good luck looking at anything before you sit down
lightsabermario
Vampires named it that. When you think about it, it makes perfect sense.
Ana Chronistic
nightlight
Breetzy
A phobia is defined as either a fear or an aversion to something, so it makes sense if you use the second definition. Light causes pain, so is therefore avoided.
Kindra
In my experience, it’s never the toilet seat itself, it’s usually that the toilet seat is part of a pattern of many little problems which boil down to “he can’t be bothered to do small, considerate things.”
Sam
This is likely a part of it. When it is part of a chain of inconsiderate behaviours it can be really really really aggravating as it can be part of a ‘stack’ of things that’d take seconds or five minutes to do.
Leorale
Many generations ago, the rabbis of the Talmud discussed a law that you could divorce somebody because she burned the soup. They decided that this is not about the specific soup — instead, it’s because, if this is the kind of relationship where somebody wants to divorce over something that ridiculously inconsequential, then woah, they should just divorce already.
chris2315
“‘Til soup do us part.”
Seriously, though, this is the kind of stuff that makes me not believe in marriage at all. A marriage is nothing more than a promise to make it a real pain the in a** when you want to break up.
chris2315
*in the
SgtWadeyWilson
Two things:
1.) The word choice of “when you want to break up” sounds more like a commitment problem. Not trying to be rude, but an if/when fits better. It’s a good point, though.
2.) Ideally marriage is a celebration of not wanting to break up that comes with rewards for that devotion.
chris2315
Ideally, yeah. The whole point of a marriage is that, to show your commitment to the other, you literally sign a contract that says you’re going to stay together forever. The entire concept falls apart when it becomes so easy to get out of said contract that a couple can get married and divorced in the same day.
Personally, I’m of the school of thought that the contract (and the ridiculously expensive ceremony) shouldn’t be necessary at all. If you love someone, do you really need to get a priest and your local government involved?
Ana Chronistic
saw this late but have to leave a comment for posterity:
If you love someone, marriage isn’t necessary, no.
But if you want the benefits of having your union recognized by everyone else, so you have a clear delineation of heirs, hospital visitation rights, the ability to claim your spouse as a dependent for taxes or insurance, etc., why wouldn’t you get “that piece of paper”?
Dragon_Nataku
Orrrrr you could just marry someone you don’t plan on breaking up with ever? That means getting to know them first, living with them for awhile first so you know if they have any deal-breaking habits, and also none of this wanting to change a person crap. “If I’m a good enough wife/husband, they’ll change” “If they love me enough they’ll change” “If we have kids they’ll change” all of this crap is bullshit and does not belong in a relationship and is probably the biggest reason why relationships fail.
thejeff
I think very few people marry anyone they plan on breaking up with.
And yet, divorces happen. Sometimes after many happy years. There’s even some evidence that those who live together first are more likely to divorce.
Liliet
The more I hear about Jewish law, the more I want to be Jewish…
Adam Black
Slut-shaming has nothing on Kosher
Cheeseburger-shaming, or pepperoni pizza-shaming.
thejeff
Pretty much this. None of the things are a big deal in and of themselves, but when you’re already stressed and in constant contact with someone all the constant tiny irritations pile up until they explode and there’s a big fight about apparently nothing. Pure human nature and it’s hard work to avoid.
darkoneko
Oh, that’s an interesting point, haha.
Kryss LaBryn
Change the fucking empty toilet roll already. Don’t just leave the new one on top; it takes all of SIX SECONDS to do it. I know perfectly well it’s just a passive-aggressive comment on the fact that you think I don’t do enough housework. Well, guess what? I’m already doing all of the housework that anybody does, and you being unwilling to take six seconds to put the new roll on the holder just emphasizes to me, every damn time, that nothing gets done around here unless I do it. No matter how small or simple it is.
And I’d be a lot more willing to run with that whole “you’re unemployed now, so you do all the housework” bit if (a) when I was employed, it wasn’t still all on me; (b) when I had longer hours than you (but wasn’t making as much money, which was the important metric), it was still all on me; (c) when we worked the same hours but I made more (but your job was more stressful, that being the important metric), it was still all on me; and (d) when I was working full time, supporting us both, and you were unemployed, it was still all on me.
Honestly, I don’t know how we’ve lasted as long as we have. The toilet seat (or the toilet paper roll) and how much annoyance it causes is probably an excellent metric of how a marriage is doing. >:(
Lovely Monsters
This was 80% of the reason I left my husband. It ruined our marriage. It’s damaged our friendship. I’m sorry you have to deal with this, and I wish you luck.
Kryss LaBryn
Thanks. It pisses me off no end.
justsayingxxx
For me it’s a big deal because you should completely (cover and all) close the toilet before flushing or you are misting the entire bathroom in whatever you just sent down the toilet.
Kinoko
I get why people care, but I still judge them for missing it (and I’m a cis woman).
I guess I’m a pretty paranoid person, but I don’t think I’d ever sit down anywhere, let alone on a toilet without looking first at what I was about to sit on.
smashman42
Had a snake in the bowl before. Not looking is dangerous. (just a python but still, those teeth down there?!)
de Combys
Where the hell do you live??
chris2315
I would assume Australia.
smashman42
Ya, the land down under where everything wants to kill you
RIP12081990
Unfortunately this can be true worldwide if anyone in the same road as you owns a pet snake and it escapes I had the same experience and I live in England
Dragon_Nataku
I’ve encountered live centipedes in the bowl before, and those things are venomous. Bleh. (and yes I mean real centipedes not those house centipede things)
Kamino Neko
House centipedes are real centipedes…thankfully relatively tiny ones, but still…real centipedes.
Kryss LaBryn
Not tiny where my friend in Michigan was; those bastards were eight inches long. She’d squish them with her bare hands; I would have screamed and run away.
Sam
It can be seen as being inconsiderate over all because if we assume you are in a one male, one female living situation, 75% of the time the toilet seat will have to be down for use, and they’re more likely to need it next if you have just gone.
For me, it is bothersome because it means you are flushing without putting the lid down which is gross as it can send germs all about the room.
a snow mous e
But does that lead to more germs than leaving it up? Doesn’t Bernoulli’s principle mean that it will rush in through narrow spaces like the one between the seat and lid?
Random832
Germs being sent all over the room is a foregone conclusion anyway (though, I’m not sure what toilets all the people who say this this are using that flush with high enough pressure to “spray” anything), and putting the lid down runs the risk of it overflowing and you noticing too late.
Random832
I mean, commercial toilets, sure, but those don’t even have lids.
Random832
That works if the goal is to maximize the number of times that it’s already in the position for what the next person needs it for (it’d still work even if I didn’t grant your assumption that “#2” comprises 50% of times any given person needs to use the restroom), but not if the goal is to equalize the division of toilet-seat-moving labor.
ChrisHerself
Because it’s not primarily a gender issue, it’s a health one. It looks gross and is unhygienic. And having everybody put the seat/lid back down as part of the toilet-using-procedure is equitable. No one complains about having to close the refrigerator door. It’s part of the process of using the fridge. I truly don’t care what people do in their own homes, but…just leave things as you find them when you’re a guest in others’? It’s very appreciated. 🙂
Raibean
I’m gonna be honest… Sometimes, when people leave the lid down, I don’t notice and then my bare ass is on the toilet lid. And I don’t know where the cleaner is in a stranger’s house.
Random832
The problem with that is that a toilet with the seat down but the lid up doesn’t actually look less gross than one with the seat up, assuming the bowl rim is clean (and why wouldn’t it be? literally nothing ever touches it) and the bowl interior being visible is what your objection is to… and very few people seem to clearly advocate for putting the lid down (even you just now said “seat/lid” as if they’re in any way equivalent… to people whose objection is “I sometimes sit on the toilet blind” the lid down is just as bad as the seat up, and Raibean here is not by any means the first person I’ve heard it from)
Kryss LaBryn
I fell in once when I was about five. I have learned to feel to verify the seat position in the dark, no matter how tired I am, which works for lid down as well as seat up.
It was cold and wet and I couldn’t get out. I had to call my mum to pull me out. 🙁
That said, though, the rim is usually the grossest part of any toilet I’ve seen, because people inevitably sprinkle (or spray, if the seat is down) onto it, and it gets nasty quickly if it’s not wiped up immediately.
I think the real question is: Why are people with penises treating toilets like they are urinals? Stand at a urinal; sit on a toilet. The rule holds for any gender.
ChrisHerself
I agree, seat down but lid up is still gross. I should have said seat+lid instead of seat/lid. I meant them as a package deal but the slash could have easily read as ‘or’. Whoops.
Gholateg
The true course is to close the lid completely. We all go down the path to Hell together.
Plasma Mongoose
To be fair, upped toilet seats have claimed more women’s lives than lightning strikes.
Some1
I have very, very, very good aim…I am a true hero!
Needfuldoer
We always had cats when I was a kid, including one that loved to drink faucet. He’d jump from the floor to the toilet, then up to the sink, without really paying attention to the path.
The seat stayed down or else the cat took a swim.
Needfuldoer
*Drink from the faucet. He didn’t actually drink faucets, that would be weird.
Thorbjorn
Drinking the faucet would mean the cat had fire breath so he could melt it, and have a stomach that could process very high temperatures and liquid metals.
Actually a cat that could drink a faucet would be pretty cool.
Shadlyn Wolfe
I have one of those cats right now! And he gets VERY angry (though so far thankfully not very “wet”) when a guest is in our house and the toilet lid is left up.
Ana Chronistic
My parents got cats after I moved out (whyyyyyyy), and one of them legit drinks straight from the toilet, so my mother leaves the seat up for him.
Lovely Monsters
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH WHY DOES THAT BATHROOM HAVE CARPET
WHY WOULD ANYONE CARPET A BATHROOM EVER AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
Ana Chronistic
the ’70s