it’s gonna be JUST like that if my folks drag me back to church (that I introduced them to because I wanted to spend one more night sleeping over with my church-going best friend every time we had a sleepover so it’s really my own undoing)
((and I’d actually know like… 25% of the folks? MAYBE??? ’cause OLD PEOPLE?????))
Eh, he’s young. Usually at that age they’re just at the ignorant and grasping at whatever looks more “adult” according to the adults in their life stage* rather than the seasoned homophobe savvy to the ways of the secret homosexualist ninjas infiltrating our bedsheets.
*So basically, might yell the f-slur out a window but won’t know what it means.
ESM
The word “fuckboy” is actually kind of homophobic in and of itself.
begbert2
Wait, what? I’m pretty sure that women are also capable of considering younger men disposable fucktoys. In fact that was the first thing I imagined upon reading the term.
Equal opportunity assholery, y’all!
TachyonCode
See, and here I was just now wondering “fuckboy, eh? I wonder if that’s more like a version of cupid whose arrows incite only eros, or a satyromaniacal catamite?” Where your mind goes when reading material that’s open to interpretation is only limited by your imagination. And possibly, your vocabulary.
Chaucer59
“Satyromaniacal”—I LOVE it. Sort of a satyriasis plus nymphomania rendering an equal-opportunity name for hypersexuality. Now I know what to call a really lascivious genderqueer individual.
TachyonCode
For the record – and since I can’t reply to comments further down from my spot in this thread directly – “satyromania” is a legit term derived from Greek origins, yadda yadda, and is the male counterpart to nymphomania (which, iirc, historically is applied only to *women* existing symptoms of “unusually” frequent if not chronic and perhaps uninhibited sexual desires). By the by, “satyromania” is likely a fair application of the Greek root, satyr – as, if memory serves, satyrs were effectively sex-crazed dong-wielding hedonists who would probably bang anything with more than one leg.
Drunken Nordmann
Considering where this slur originates, we’ll have to disagree on that.
Huh, I’m actually curious about the origins. I know it had its origins in hip hop slang, but I’m pretty ignorant beyond that.
Drunken Nordmann
If I remember correctly, it also has roots in prison culture, i.e. being used to describe the inmates not strong enough to defend themselves from being raped.
Damn if that article isn’t pretentious, FallingIvy. Words can, do, and should absolutely take on new meanings if those new meanings are being used by vast communities of people. A word, once used by a person, is not owned by that person.
I’ll admit that I wasn’t aware of the word’s Etymology, and that there can be issues of cultural appropriation, but the fact that the vaguely-defined “Fuckboy” was picked up by people outside of the Hip-Hop community and given a more specific meaning is hardly the act of whitewashing that the Jezebel article makes it out to be.
Kayla
Wow, can’t get more original than the ‘let’s not make it about race’ response. It’s a word the black community came up with and got picked up and misused and now demonized by people outside the community but it’s not whitewashing. Ok
marianne
Except that the black community appropriated it from the gay community, initially in a very homophobic way, which kind of makes this whole “white people appropriated it” argument dramatically fall apart. So your outrage is a bit misplaced here Kayla. I’ve heard that the word “shade” similarly originated in the gay community, was picked up (or “appropriated”) by the black community, and now has some within said community claiming it’s theirs without understanding (or, perhaps, simply acknowledging) its true origins.
Lin
Y’all. Both fuckboy and shade originated in Black and Latinx queer communities. Stop assuming all queer people are white.
bleepbloop
Kayla how can you acknowledge that a word was taken from the black community and demonized by white people making up lies but then say its not whitewashing……And Marianne…..huh???? Most gay culture sayings were taken from black women, and the ones that WERE originated in the gay community were by….you guessed it, black/latinx folk! The word shade dates back decades, its not new, and neither is fuckboy. White people gave it an entirely new definition. Fuckboy is the relatively more polite way of saying fuck(n word) and was used to describe a no good, bummy type of guy. Now people use it anytime they see a boy wearing a snapback and nike slides or some shit. Or a guy whos extremely and grossly misogynist. The words lost all spite! I laugh and cringe when I hear it now, its hardly a good insult anymore because it was flanderized by white people on the internet.
adam
Jezebels wrong.
It was a term of endearment, or not so much, by Gay men.
especially in Daddy relationships. Very Similar to fuckbuddy also from gay men. See also, Fuckboi
It could imply intense affection in mostly physical poly relationship
( or dom-slave ). Or disrespect depending on context.
BUt its a compound of two common English words. Anything who thinks it must have a solo origin or meaning, is heavily deluded about the English.
Now Its widely used used on Tinder by heavily promiscuous Heterosexuals to other slutty heterosexuals, to mean “Man that i do not like” . YMMV. ( my use of the word slutty isnt pejorarive )
( esp TO Kayla below )
The ridiculous hand-wringing that its a black only term because it was popularized in a rap song , is only so much much whiteguilt. I think straight white liberals ought to focus on police violence, or terrorism and incitment against LGBT people , instead of playing slang-police. I probably first heard fuckboy before you were born. YMMV
bleepbloop
Fuckboy has been used for literal decades so how old are you. And, again, there are gay folk of color……so……like
See my comment above but in the black community (where it has been used for those literal decades) it meant a guy who aint shit, a scrub. Everyone can keep claiming when and where the word was first used but we sure as hell know it wasnt in a prison. The words been bastardized by (straight) white people to mean,as you said, “guy you just dont like”. I dont deny that it had a different meaning in the gay community, but lbr here if we’re talking about origin.
Mr Ak
Also known as a buster.
Disloyal Subject
Calling people names is typically regarded as wrong. That’s never stopped us before.
HeySo
I’m pretty confused by people arguing over/caring over the etymology of such a meaningless- and generally negative- word, as above.
Who cares who did what with it? It’s a poorly considered, crudely constructed, negatively-spirited word that doesn’t convey a unique meaning, and thus is worthless to use in the first place.
I mean, not like hip hop needs more abusive-minded, empty insults to spam their lyrics with.
ergo, I assert the word is created by, and continues to be propagated by intellectually limited individuals. As such, no re-appropriation took place, since it’s still used by the same core community :’P
Yesterday Willis shared a comic strip of Jesus and a personified Science about to get into a fight.
After seeing that, I’d had the idea that in the Walkyverse, Galasso made a clone of Science–made up of equal parts Madame Curie, Lise Meitner, Jane Goodall, Ada Lovelace and Sally Ride.
I mean. In my church the kids teased each other. The youth pastor teased everyone, especially the kids. “Screw you” might at least raise some eyebrows, especially depending on tone and context and how close insulter and insultee were, and it would maybe result in a private scolding, but no one would just explode.
And “no one cares about you, Marcus”? Shit, we said stuff like that to each other all the time. Teasing is often part of being a family.
I’m not saying that there aren’t churches where Joyce and Becky would get in trouble for something like this, but my church was still pretty conservative, but mostly laid-back. I feel like people here are pretty quick to say “Oh no, this is going to be a problem” when it could just as easily not be. There’s a lot we don’t know about Joyce’s church.
Don’t grow up? Or don’t grow old? We need less Peter/Pan syndrome and more silliness and humour. I’m sick and tired of being told that I’m sick and tired.
You mean the girl whose father was a member of the church before she “got” him sent to prison? I think he’s eyeballing her, but not necessarily in an attracted way.
304 thoughts on “Marcus”
Ana Chronistic
it’s gonna be JUST like that if my folks drag me back to church (that I introduced them to because I wanted to spend one more night sleeping over with my church-going best friend every time we had a sleepover so it’s really my own undoing)
((and I’d actually know like… 25% of the folks? MAYBE??? ’cause OLD PEOPLE?????))
Cerberus
*hugs*
Nathan 223
I’m having flashbacks to my last leave block already
Wheelpath
Wow Marcus, way to be a fuckboy
gkheyf
Desperate? Who’s desperate?? I’m not desperate, you’re desperate!
DarkoNeko
Screw you, Marcus !
Some1
calling someone who can’t be more than 13, at the oldest a fuckboy just seems so very very very wrong.
Drunken Nordmann
Calling anyone a fuckboy is very wrong in general.
Chaucer59
Unless he’s some nazi homophobe piece of shit. In that case “fuckboy” is like a promotion.
Cerberus
Eh, he’s young. Usually at that age they’re just at the ignorant and grasping at whatever looks more “adult” according to the adults in their life stage* rather than the seasoned homophobe savvy to the ways of the secret homosexualist ninjas infiltrating our bedsheets.
*So basically, might yell the f-slur out a window but won’t know what it means.
ESM
The word “fuckboy” is actually kind of homophobic in and of itself.
begbert2
Wait, what? I’m pretty sure that women are also capable of considering younger men disposable fucktoys. In fact that was the first thing I imagined upon reading the term.
Equal opportunity assholery, y’all!
TachyonCode
See, and here I was just now wondering “fuckboy, eh? I wonder if that’s more like a version of cupid whose arrows incite only eros, or a satyromaniacal catamite?” Where your mind goes when reading material that’s open to interpretation is only limited by your imagination. And possibly, your vocabulary.
Chaucer59
“Satyromaniacal”—I LOVE it. Sort of a satyriasis plus nymphomania rendering an equal-opportunity name for hypersexuality. Now I know what to call a really lascivious genderqueer individual.
TachyonCode
For the record – and since I can’t reply to comments further down from my spot in this thread directly – “satyromania” is a legit term derived from Greek origins, yadda yadda, and is the male counterpart to nymphomania (which, iirc, historically is applied only to *women* existing symptoms of “unusually” frequent if not chronic and perhaps uninhibited sexual desires). By the by, “satyromania” is likely a fair application of the Greek root, satyr – as, if memory serves, satyrs were effectively sex-crazed dong-wielding hedonists who would probably bang anything with more than one leg.
Drunken Nordmann
Considering where this slur originates, we’ll have to disagree on that.
Cerberus
Huh, I’m actually curious about the origins. I know it had its origins in hip hop slang, but I’m pretty ignorant beyond that.
Drunken Nordmann
If I remember correctly, it also has roots in prison culture, i.e. being used to describe the inmates not strong enough to defend themselves from being raped.
Fallingivy
http://jezebel.com/the-definition-of-fuckboy-is-not-what-bad-trend-pieces-1725157828
Maxy
Damn if that article isn’t pretentious, FallingIvy. Words can, do, and should absolutely take on new meanings if those new meanings are being used by vast communities of people. A word, once used by a person, is not owned by that person.
I’ll admit that I wasn’t aware of the word’s Etymology, and that there can be issues of cultural appropriation, but the fact that the vaguely-defined “Fuckboy” was picked up by people outside of the Hip-Hop community and given a more specific meaning is hardly the act of whitewashing that the Jezebel article makes it out to be.
Kayla
Wow, can’t get more original than the ‘let’s not make it about race’ response. It’s a word the black community came up with and got picked up and misused and now demonized by people outside the community but it’s not whitewashing. Ok
marianne
Except that the black community appropriated it from the gay community, initially in a very homophobic way, which kind of makes this whole “white people appropriated it” argument dramatically fall apart. So your outrage is a bit misplaced here Kayla. I’ve heard that the word “shade” similarly originated in the gay community, was picked up (or “appropriated”) by the black community, and now has some within said community claiming it’s theirs without understanding (or, perhaps, simply acknowledging) its true origins.
Lin
Y’all. Both fuckboy and shade originated in Black and Latinx queer communities. Stop assuming all queer people are white.
bleepbloop
Kayla how can you acknowledge that a word was taken from the black community and demonized by white people making up lies but then say its not whitewashing……And Marianne…..huh???? Most gay culture sayings were taken from black women, and the ones that WERE originated in the gay community were by….you guessed it, black/latinx folk! The word shade dates back decades, its not new, and neither is fuckboy. White people gave it an entirely new definition. Fuckboy is the relatively more polite way of saying fuck(n word) and was used to describe a no good, bummy type of guy. Now people use it anytime they see a boy wearing a snapback and nike slides or some shit. Or a guy whos extremely and grossly misogynist. The words lost all spite! I laugh and cringe when I hear it now, its hardly a good insult anymore because it was flanderized by white people on the internet.
adam
Jezebels wrong.
It was a term of endearment, or not so much, by Gay men.
especially in Daddy relationships. Very Similar to fuckbuddy also from gay men. See also, Fuckboi
It could imply intense affection in mostly physical poly relationship
( or dom-slave ). Or disrespect depending on context.
BUt its a compound of two common English words. Anything who thinks it must have a solo origin or meaning, is heavily deluded about the English.
Now Its widely used used on Tinder by heavily promiscuous Heterosexuals to other slutty heterosexuals, to mean “Man that i do not like” . YMMV. ( my use of the word slutty isnt pejorarive )
( esp TO Kayla below )
The ridiculous hand-wringing that its a black only term because it was popularized in a rap song , is only so much much whiteguilt. I think straight white liberals ought to focus on police violence, or terrorism and incitment against LGBT people , instead of playing slang-police. I probably first heard fuckboy before you were born. YMMV
bleepbloop
Fuckboy has been used for literal decades so how old are you. And, again, there are gay folk of color……so……like
See my comment above but in the black community (where it has been used for those literal decades) it meant a guy who aint shit, a scrub. Everyone can keep claiming when and where the word was first used but we sure as hell know it wasnt in a prison. The words been bastardized by (straight) white people to mean,as you said, “guy you just dont like”. I dont deny that it had a different meaning in the gay community, but lbr here if we’re talking about origin.
Mr Ak
Also known as a buster.
Disloyal Subject
Calling people names is typically regarded as wrong. That’s never stopped us before.
HeySo
I’m pretty confused by people arguing over/caring over the etymology of such a meaningless- and generally negative- word, as above.
Who cares who did what with it? It’s a poorly considered, crudely constructed, negatively-spirited word that doesn’t convey a unique meaning, and thus is worthless to use in the first place.
I mean, not like hip hop needs more abusive-minded, empty insults to spam their lyrics with.
ergo, I assert the word is created by, and continues to be propagated by intellectually limited individuals. As such, no re-appropriation took place, since it’s still used by the same core community :’P
bleepbloop
yikes…..so anyway
TheAnonymousGuy
a love interest for roz little sister, and by love interest I mean fellow cereal enthusiast.
Sam
You mean a fellow pancereal.
JepMZ
Lol, my first time hearing that word was toward a certain dude in a KH 2.8 demo video
Reaver
That might not even be Marcus, that could be someones kid
Doctor_Who
Are we sure Marcus isn’t the offspring of Danny? I’m sensing Wilcox genes.
(My comment was totally gonna be “Fuckin’ Marcus, man”, but the alt text had to ruin it.)
Stephen R. Bierce
Probably just the same barber.
Lack of haircare diversity can ruin the style of an entire community, you know.
butts
He’s eerily reminding me of a tiny Ryan.
Tandel
You’re not the only one.
Hellothere
Thankfully Joyce is not the kind of person who lets herself be stomped forever.
In many ways she is one of the strongest characters in DoA.
begbert2
I’m pretty sure Carla could eat her for lunch and then skate away backwards with two fingers upraised.
Mr k
Given that he appears to be around 10, that would mean Danny had him when he was 8. Let’s not go there.
HeySo
You can’t tell now, but danny was all about the Thug Life as a kid. 😛
Van Jealous
We hate Marcus….already!
-Sentinel-
Damn right. Stick a fork in a power outlet, Marcus.
nobodybasically
So Joyce just said “Screw you.”
To a child.
In a church.
I am not seeing good things coming in the next comic.
JustCheetoDust
I’m hoping for over the top cursing, like the “bullshit” scene in The Return of Captain Invincible.
Brasca1
Well they’re in the right place for the gospel choir for the following song “We Need a Hero.”
Sporky
The zigzaggy tail of the speech bubble indicates she was mumbling, so probably not.
CC
Joyce may have been mumbling, but Becky was almost certainly not. Bad things are likely coming indeed.
Pastafarian
The looks she and Becky seemed to be getting in the first panel aren’t comforting, either.
marianne
Alternate (to silence) dialogue for those two:
“Oh my gosh, it’s Princess Peach!”
“Really!? …Hey, do you think she likes all moustachioed men, or…?”
TheAnonymousGuy
historical Jesus shows up, it gets weird but, in an awesome way.
Stephen R. Bierce
Yesterday Willis shared a comic strip of Jesus and a personified Science about to get into a fight.
After seeing that, I’d had the idea that in the Walkyverse, Galasso made a clone of Science–made up of equal parts Madame Curie, Lise Meitner, Jane Goodall, Ada Lovelace and Sally Ride.
Clif
Wait. I though Dana was personified Science.
Griffin
I mean. In my church the kids teased each other. The youth pastor teased everyone, especially the kids. “Screw you” might at least raise some eyebrows, especially depending on tone and context and how close insulter and insultee were, and it would maybe result in a private scolding, but no one would just explode.
And “no one cares about you, Marcus”? Shit, we said stuff like that to each other all the time. Teasing is often part of being a family.
I’m not saying that there aren’t churches where Joyce and Becky would get in trouble for something like this, but my church was still pretty conservative, but mostly laid-back. I feel like people here are pretty quick to say “Oh no, this is going to be a problem” when it could just as easily not be. There’s a lot we don’t know about Joyce’s church.
Opus the Poet
Sure just ignore the people that have been gone for like a month now Marcus.
Showler
You know how Joyce just dismissed a lot of the people as old? Guess who fits into that category for Marcus?
Zach
Marcus apologists are the worst!!!
Spencer
They need to check their Marcus privilege.
Cerberus
Yup, Joyce just learned a lesson about growing up today.
Clif
Don’t?
Geneseepaws
Don’t grow up? Or don’t grow old? We need less Peter/Pan syndrome and more silliness and humour. I’m sick and tired of being told that I’m sick and tired.
miados
was the older guy in the first panel checking out becky? or is that just me seeing things?
Doctor_Who
Probably not used to seeing interesting hair.
That or everyone had heard about the little incident with Toedad.
Random832
Maybe it was a double take because he’s never seen her in a dress before.
Willoughby Chase
He’s a writer for Vogue. Red hair with a pink dress?
Clif
Plausible theory is plausible.
Nemirthel
The guy with the mustache? He’s either checking her out or shocked by her haircut. Probably both.
Kris
You’re all wrong. He’s clearly appreciating her arm freckles.
Saxa
I’m gonna think that he was eyeing Joyce.
Mr Ak
You mean the girl whose father was a member of the church before she “got” him sent to prison? I think he’s eyeballing her, but not necessarily in an attracted way.
Jack