Uke: BL fan slang for a guy who is the ‘bottom’ when engaging in gay sex.
Seme: BL slang for a guy who is the ‘pitcher’ when engaging in gay sex.
SEMME: The name of the top-secret organisation that SP! Mike served in.
Actually, “seme” and “uke” are general terms, not just BL. They may have started as BL terms, but now they encompass any Character A X Character B pairing. (To my knowledge, anyways.)
John Cabot
Not exactly, but if I try to describe how it’s a thing with built in ‘personality traits’ and shit my brain starts screaming and I have to go do something else. The uke is meant to be small and weak, the seme big and strong and it’s a very heteronormative porn trope from Japan.
It keeps getting applied to characters that weren’t designed for it, which leads to things like weepy Iolaus in Hercules’ arms.
Aw dangit, I explained it anyway.
See also: Lemons, limes.
StClair
JC: Just so. It’s “but which one is the man?” all over again. Because actual new, non-binary gender roles would make so many heads asplode.
Wait, the Blu-Rays lack those? Do they come with any other extras instead? I mean, I only have the DVDs because I don’t have a Blu-Ray player (well, except for my PS3, but I use it solely for games).
For a second there I thought he gave them to Joyce, then I thought he would haft to go over to her room to literally fight her over them, then again Joyce looks like she has more muscle mass than him.
For most people, this is dickishness performed on a level that changed not only their lives, but the lives of those around them.
For Mike, it is just Tuesday.
This is also something very commonly done by many parents of high-school/college-aged students. The moment they go away from home, even for a weekend, throw out all their comics and DVDs that they’ve spent years paying for and patiently collecting, because “now you’re an adult, you don’t need all those childish stories”.
Many a potentially very valuable comic collection has been lost this way over the decades. My own dad had a largish collection of DC Comics (mostly Superman) from the ’60s. The moment he went away on a school trip for a week, his mum threw his whole collection of “kiddie comics” out.
This completely ignores not only that such collections can appreciate in value over time, but even the more basic fact of how much money was spent amassing them in the first damn place. xD
The thing I find most appalling about such behavior is a parent stealing and destroying the possessions of their own child. They wouldn’t do that to a stranger; they’d be arrested. If somebody broke into their house and did it to them they’d feel horribly violated. Parents who do this to their kids are both criminals and horrible people.
Maybe the only justified example of this would be in White Teeth: when the kid goes to a book-burning demonstration to burn Salmon Rushdie books (I think), his mom burns all his stuff in the backyard to make a point to him about how wrong it is to burn books.
Yea, my mom let her clients kids (she ran an in house ceramics business) read my comics when I went to university, needless to say, they were shredded. They also destroyed my plastic model collection.
I’m sorry, I didn’t read any of your words because your avatar makes it impossible to look at them long enough.
Jen Aside
Words?
JustCheetoDust
Or anyone who didn’t live under a rock during that weird PR stunt two years ago.
Rutee
Yer kiddin’ right? They were still selling Mike n’ Ikes when I was a kid, and they were popular enough.
Durandal_1707
I think arank11 was referring to the Eisenhower’s “I Like Ike” campaign slogan, although the joke he was referring to probably was referencing the candies.
I like Mike from DoA before I even read SP!. I just find him funny. Sure, it is not someone you would like to hang out with, but it is certainly entertaining to watch.
I feel that way for a number of characters I have read/watched over the years, they’re awesome from an outsider’s POV but they would be annoying, sometimes even horrible people to actually deal wih on a daily basis.
Rutee
Most of them would be a huge pain to deal with daily. Mike’s entertaining as a sometimes food though, as an outsider.
Mind you, while I’m at a loss to understand it, Mike is just another in a long line of folks similar.
Everyone like a charismatic asshole for example take: steven Hyde(that’s 70 show) Bender( futurama)kusco(emperors new grove) master shake(ATHF) DEAD POOL! everybody fucking loves Deadpool
I also forgot Blue from foster home, I’m also counting Stewi from family guy for that entire “where’s my money” thing , till this day that is still funny.
Chrissy
That is a great, true list! But if Mike is being a total jerk to manipulate a situation and have it work out well for people, he shows no indication that’s what he is trying to do. I haven’t read SP! because I want the characters in DOA to stand alone for me, and I think I must be missing some human element with Mike. As far as I can tell, he doesn’t care if his cruelty works out to help people, he is just a huge dick that no one should keep around. If I were Walky I would be submitting a room change request
newllend
And like the guys I mentioned some of us think some of the things he done has had a reason. if he thinks his actions some how have a good effect on people then he isn’t just an asshole,but if he has no idea that he is secretly helping people find guidance and is just doing all this stuff just because then he’s just a straight up dick or he could be chaotic neutral. Stuff like this is the core of these kind of characters their like antiheroes of comedy.
I have only followed the DoA universe, and I can safely say that Mike is my favorite character.
Yes, he is a major asshole, but I firmly believe there is a point to everything he does. His douche bag-ery is not a collection of empty actions. Each one, I believe, can better the person they immediately affect. The problem with this is that we, the audience, are the only ones with a birds-eye view and comprehension of the various lives of these characters, so what he’s doing can not be internalized as a step in the right direction. at least not now.
A lot of people seem to think that Mike is some kind of Stealth Mentor with an asshole twist but I wonder if he really is or not.
AgentKeen
It’s just another way that he can be an asshole. You never know if he’s helping or not.
Cloverlock
As annoying as his methods for mentoring might be, that has to be the answer. I mean, there have been many moments where characters did not reflect on their words or actions until they it was thrown in their face, along with mud, by Mike. We have yet to see him gain anything, even personal enjoyment, from being so hurtful or even brutally honest, leading me to believe that it’s meant to do something to that person, as if Mike is some pampadoured parent scolding his same-age kids for their emotionally-driven or irrational actions towards others.
Annie
This was great. Some how you found the words to describe how I feel about Mike in the DoA universe without knowing that’s how I felt.
newllend
its Either a 50% chance he is or 50% chance he’s just on the nose of the problem all the time and he’s being an ass just because.
begbert2
I don’t believe for an instant that Mike intends to be a stealth mentor. That’s some Draco in Leather Pants level crap there. The guy did not stick his books in Walky’s backpack due to altruism; he did not try to break up Dotty and Walky due to altruism; he did not ignore and quietly accept Ethan’s choice to make Joyce his beard out of altruism. Mike did all this just because people piss him off and he doesn’t care what happens to them. (Even his best friend!)
Cloverlock
1) In regards to the whole “ignoring the beard” thing, I always just thought that was none of Mike’s business, and that, for lack of a good reason, he has decided to stay out of it for now, a left-field move considering his past actions (or maybe he truly doesn’t think that’s the right move right now, it’s Dave’s story whatever)
2)I never said that Mike is following some doctrine of Altruism. I am not saying that he is some selfless saint. Far from it, perhaps. I wouldn’t be surprised if later on, we find out he gets some sick pleasure from seeing others reflect on choices they can’t change. what I was arguing is that these moments of dick moves might actually be beneficial to the development of the characters, something I considered when I noticed how the characters took to heart his harsh comments. If they were meant to be the words of just another asshole, I do not believe they would have so much effect.
155 thoughts on “Moved”
AHR
Come on Mike, no need to be petty. Just cause Walky left you for someone prettier doesn’t mean you need to take revenge.
Jen Aside
haha Gravatar win
thecanvashat
Prettier than Mike? Ha!
Plasma Mongoose
Clearly screwing mothers for a nickel just doesn’t excite him quite the same way as getting some of that caramel goodness does.
newllend
He could get that from Sal if he wanted,No really if it ment screwing with someone’s head he would do it for That reason only.
Plasma Mongoose
But Walky radiates uke which suits a seme like Mike a lot better.
sps48
Are those typos or something I’m’na hafta look up?
PrincessCarlos
I wouldn’t if I were you.
Plasma Mongoose
Uke: BL fan slang for a guy who is the ‘bottom’ when engaging in gay sex.
Seme: BL slang for a guy who is the ‘pitcher’ when engaging in gay sex.
SEMME: The name of the top-secret organisation that SP! Mike served in.
gangler
That’s some quality punsmanship.
Plasma Mongoose
Danke! A day without puns is like a day without gums, harder to sink your teeth into.
Ancestral Hamster
Actually, I thought “uke” was the noise the bottom makes while his bottom is being plumbed. “Uke uke uke.”
Re: caramel goodness. Mike: Bring me another Walkerton, this one’s full.
Parnifia the Bastard
Actually, “seme” and “uke” are general terms, not just BL. They may have started as BL terms, but now they encompass any Character A X Character B pairing. (To my knowledge, anyways.)
John Cabot
Not exactly, but if I try to describe how it’s a thing with built in ‘personality traits’ and shit my brain starts screaming and I have to go do something else. The uke is meant to be small and weak, the seme big and strong and it’s a very heteronormative porn trope from Japan.
It keeps getting applied to characters that weren’t designed for it, which leads to things like weepy Iolaus in Hercules’ arms.
Aw dangit, I explained it anyway.
See also: Lemons, limes.
StClair
JC: Just so. It’s “but which one is the man?” all over again. Because actual new, non-binary gender roles would make so many heads asplode.
Noel Schornhorst
Now I want Mike X Walky to be the next Slipshine thing!
Tunaro
Even when he’s helping people, Mike can’t stop screwing someone else over.
Nunc Pro Tunc
And thus the balance of the universe if kept in check.
KingMabel
In his defense, those DVD’s have the interviews with the cast AND…
Korean captions.
JustCheetoDust
Even then, those Korean subtitles are just a hidden distress signal from the overworked animators and not a true translation.
KingMabel
I can’t think of a number big enough to give you for this…
ZORK
Wait, the Blu-Rays lack those? Do they come with any other extras instead? I mean, I only have the DVDs because I don’t have a Blu-Ray player (well, except for my PS3, but I use it solely for games).
Wonder Wig
Mike’s face in the last panel gives me pause … there needs to be snow slowly falling outside.
KingMabel
Or maybe his shock allowed him to see the word bubble.
LiaHansen
with a very slight upward tweak of Mike’s eyebrows, that could be the most dramatic panel in DoA history.
StClair
“I did it thirty-five minutes ago.”
Shanunu
Classic.
Gram91
It’s been a while since we’ve had a Mike Moment.
newllend
We need more of those, we need to see more moments of Mike messing with everybody and I mean everybody.
Gnoka
Maybe the skateboarders are sale and friends and this is a plan to force walky to patch things up with his sister
Historyman68
Skateboarders for sale!
newllend
For a second there I thought he gave them to Joyce, then I thought he would haft to go over to her room to literally fight her over them, then again Joyce looks like she has more muscle mass than him.
JeremiahTheBulldog
Evidently, you haven’t seen him nude.
Nick Piers
I don’t know. This seems pretty dickish, even for Mike. Isn’t it?
ShaggyDonahugh
For most people, this is dickishness performed on a level that changed not only their lives, but the lives of those around them.
For Mike, it is just Tuesday.
Iamnoht
So did Mike change his last name to Bison?
Alex
So that’s what the M stands for.
… Wait, I knew that. Mike Bison was the original name for the boxer character.
Yet_One_More_Idiot
This is also something very commonly done by many parents of high-school/college-aged students. The moment they go away from home, even for a weekend, throw out all their comics and DVDs that they’ve spent years paying for and patiently collecting, because “now you’re an adult, you don’t need all those childish stories”.
Many a potentially very valuable comic collection has been lost this way over the decades. My own dad had a largish collection of DC Comics (mostly Superman) from the ’60s. The moment he went away on a school trip for a week, his mum threw his whole collection of “kiddie comics” out.
This completely ignores not only that such collections can appreciate in value over time, but even the more basic fact of how much money was spent amassing them in the first damn place. xD
begbert2
The thing I find most appalling about such behavior is a parent stealing and destroying the possessions of their own child. They wouldn’t do that to a stranger; they’d be arrested. If somebody broke into their house and did it to them they’d feel horribly violated. Parents who do this to their kids are both criminals and horrible people.
Historyman68
But you could argue that the remaining comics wouldn’t be worth as much, maybe not even rare at all, if not for this behavior.
Historyman68
Maybe the only justified example of this would be in White Teeth: when the kid goes to a book-burning demonstration to burn Salmon Rushdie books (I think), his mom burns all his stuff in the backyard to make a point to him about how wrong it is to burn books.
Roborat
Yea, my mom let her clients kids (she ran an in house ceramics business) read my comics when I went to university, needless to say, they were shredded. They also destroyed my plastic model collection.
Chrissy
I don’t understand why people like Mike.
Wack'd
I prefer Ike, personally.
arank11
Only true 50’s kids will understand this
Plasma Mongoose
As a 60s born kid, I also understand it.
Heavensrun
I’m sorry, I didn’t read any of your words because your avatar makes it impossible to look at them long enough.
Jen Aside
Words?
JustCheetoDust
Or anyone who didn’t live under a rock during that weird PR stunt two years ago.
Rutee
Yer kiddin’ right? They were still selling Mike n’ Ikes when I was a kid, and they were popular enough.
Durandal_1707
I think arank11 was referring to the Eisenhower’s “I Like Ike” campaign slogan, although the joke he was referring to probably was referencing the candies.
JustCheetoDust
So did Ice Cube.
Things could be different now that he’s gone from rapping about malt liquor (and starting rap beef among brands) to having arguments with beer bottles.
Plasma Mongoose
I think they like Mike more for what they remember from SP! than for what he has done in DoA.
Heatth
I like Mike from DoA before I even read SP!. I just find him funny. Sure, it is not someone you would like to hang out with, but it is certainly entertaining to watch.
Plasma Mongoose
I feel that way for a number of characters I have read/watched over the years, they’re awesome from an outsider’s POV but they would be annoying, sometimes even horrible people to actually deal wih on a daily basis.
Rutee
Most of them would be a huge pain to deal with daily. Mike’s entertaining as a sometimes food though, as an outsider.
Mind you, while I’m at a loss to understand it, Mike is just another in a long line of folks similar.
newllend
Everyone like a charismatic asshole for example take: steven Hyde(that’s 70 show) Bender( futurama)kusco(emperors new grove) master shake(ATHF) DEAD POOL! everybody fucking loves Deadpool
Plasma Mongoose
That’s so true it hurts.
newllend
I also forgot Blue from foster home, I’m also counting Stewi from family guy for that entire “where’s my money” thing , till this day that is still funny.
Chrissy
That is a great, true list! But if Mike is being a total jerk to manipulate a situation and have it work out well for people, he shows no indication that’s what he is trying to do. I haven’t read SP! because I want the characters in DOA to stand alone for me, and I think I must be missing some human element with Mike. As far as I can tell, he doesn’t care if his cruelty works out to help people, he is just a huge dick that no one should keep around. If I were Walky I would be submitting a room change request
newllend
And like the guys I mentioned some of us think some of the things he done has had a reason. if he thinks his actions some how have a good effect on people then he isn’t just an asshole,but if he has no idea that he is secretly helping people find guidance and is just doing all this stuff just because then he’s just a straight up dick or he could be chaotic neutral. Stuff like this is the core of these kind of characters their like antiheroes of comedy.
Annie
Also Dr. Romano from ER. He was awesome, but it was also kind of awesome and satisfying to see him crushed by a helicopter.
Cloverlock
I have only followed the DoA universe, and I can safely say that Mike is my favorite character.
Yes, he is a major asshole, but I firmly believe there is a point to everything he does. His douche bag-ery is not a collection of empty actions. Each one, I believe, can better the person they immediately affect. The problem with this is that we, the audience, are the only ones with a birds-eye view and comprehension of the various lives of these characters, so what he’s doing can not be internalized as a step in the right direction. at least not now.
Plasma Mongoose
A lot of people seem to think that Mike is some kind of Stealth Mentor with an asshole twist but I wonder if he really is or not.
AgentKeen
It’s just another way that he can be an asshole. You never know if he’s helping or not.
Cloverlock
As annoying as his methods for mentoring might be, that has to be the answer. I mean, there have been many moments where characters did not reflect on their words or actions until they it was thrown in their face, along with mud, by Mike. We have yet to see him gain anything, even personal enjoyment, from being so hurtful or even brutally honest, leading me to believe that it’s meant to do something to that person, as if Mike is some pampadoured parent scolding his same-age kids for their emotionally-driven or irrational actions towards others.
Annie
This was great. Some how you found the words to describe how I feel about Mike in the DoA universe without knowing that’s how I felt.
newllend
its Either a 50% chance he is or 50% chance he’s just on the nose of the problem all the time and he’s being an ass just because.
begbert2
I don’t believe for an instant that Mike intends to be a stealth mentor. That’s some Draco in Leather Pants level crap there. The guy did not stick his books in Walky’s backpack due to altruism; he did not try to break up Dotty and Walky due to altruism; he did not ignore and quietly accept Ethan’s choice to make Joyce his beard out of altruism. Mike did all this just because people piss him off and he doesn’t care what happens to them. (Even his best friend!)
Cloverlock
1) In regards to the whole “ignoring the beard” thing, I always just thought that was none of Mike’s business, and that, for lack of a good reason, he has decided to stay out of it for now, a left-field move considering his past actions (or maybe he truly doesn’t think that’s the right move right now, it’s Dave’s story whatever)
2)I never said that Mike is following some doctrine of Altruism. I am not saying that he is some selfless saint. Far from it, perhaps. I wouldn’t be surprised if later on, we find out he gets some sick pleasure from seeing others reflect on choices they can’t change. what I was arguing is that these moments of dick moves might actually be beneficial to the development of the characters, something I considered when I noticed how the characters took to heart his harsh comments. If they were meant to be the words of just another asshole, I do not believe they would have so much effect.
Wack'd
Thank what now?
Mr K