Ahh, the halcyon days where you could get your unlicensed game to run on an unmodded console* just by including another cartridge slot for a licensed game on top. Yet another thing the Christian teen experience has in common with Sonic the Hedgehog.
I’m pretty sure Linda’s not going to be at Lucy’s church she hadn’t heard of. She’s more likely to show up at Walky’s dorm room. And then they’ll have to sneak out through the half bath, and Ken and Arnold will make an appearance, ok I’m on board.
do we even know if linda invited them out again anywhere? I assume they wouldn’t go to the church service since walky phrased it in a way that’d be like “i’ll go to church with you and then report to my parents about how you’re a nice churchgoing girl” tho i imagine they might not be fond of religion or at least churches/organized groups if linda was willing to sue joyce’s church after that whole incident
Even then the whole “tell your parents” part was Lucy. I read Walky’s offer as just to do something with Lucy to make up for the meeting with his parents being so awful. Lucy took it in the “scheme to make them like her” direction, but I don’t think Walky had any such ideas.
Yeah, that’s just not how that conversation happened. He never said anything of the sort, he just offered to go, period. Linda is completely uninvolved, has nothing to do with it, wasn’t included in the conversation, and hasn’t been contacted about it on-panel. The only relevance she has is through Lucy’s dumbass need to please the unpleasable.
HueSatLight
That whole relationship is Walky uttering things without saying what he’s thinking, Lucy reading something else into them and saying it out loud, and then Walky choosing not to clarify.
–Dave, if you’re old enough to remember it, no you don’t
RassilonTDavros
I will never forgive Robert Zemeckis for leaving the scene of Principal Strickland crushing students’ confiscated Walkmen (Walkmans?) on the cutting room floor.
“We were Xmas and Easter Christians until we sent my sister away to Catholic boarding school, at which point we considered our obligations to God moot and stopped bothering with religion at all.”
Ummm…None of that is how any of it works, but specifically, Linda used “we locked Sally up in a religious institution” as an excuse to stop being religious? Like she was paying off a debt to God with one of her own kids?
I know we say it pretty often around here, but Linda is a terrible mother.
I mean, Walky is an atheist and only culturally Christian (which is pretty common) so he doesn’t really care whatsoever about what was really motivating all this.
I don’t think we know that he’s an atheist. Just that he’s irreligious. A person can think a god or gods exist and be disinterested in them.
shellshockbp
He called God “sky daddy” when talking to Joyce in a strip right after he started dating Dorothy. I think it’s safe to assume he’s at least agnostic atheist.
HueSatLight
that’s not inconsistent with someone who believes a god or gods exist but they are indifferent to humans. I’ll see if I can find that strip to get the whole conversation though.
I don’t think that was Linda’s actual reason. Someone else suggested that maybe there was too much gossip about the incident. Or maybe they just got tired of going, or it didn’t seem worth it anymore with the family split up.
I’d buy the avoiding church due to gossip angle.. mostly because Linda seemed to only be going for appearances/connections and can’t take any suggestion that she’s a less then perfect parent so just dropped it once it became less then perfectly convenient.
I expect he ran out of “being serious for a moment” and that’s him making a joke because they happened about the same time.
Much more likely they didn’t go to Easter and Christmas services anymore because Linda thought people would see them without Sal and think Linda was a bad parent.
It is extremely common for not-that-religious-but-not-atheist parents to feel like they’re supposed to see that their children are ‘properly’ raised in the church, even against said children’s wishes. It’s also extremely common that as said children grow up, it starts to become more optional. My suspicion would be that that WOULD have been the case for the Walkertons, except Linda seeing that Sal was “on a bad track” figured church was a good influence. Once Sal was shipped off to boarding school, that wasn’t really a concern anymore, and none of them really wanted to go, so it just sort of naturally fell out of the routine.
Of course none of that would’ve been made explicit, certainly not to Walky, so he drew his own connections and attached his own explanation for it.
That kind of makes sense, though I’d expect that to be more the shift from “Church every Sunday” to “Easter/Christmas” than from “Easter/Christmas” to nothing at all. Few would expect a couple sermons a year to make any difference to a kid on a bad track.
Pretty much. My mom figured that I should be baptized and confirmed and go to Sunday School, but we only went to church when me or my brother were asked to act as ushers or participate in some other way. As for Christmas, I considered my Mom paying lip service to all of us going to the candlelight service but not following through as a family holiday tradition. I was disappointed the year she didn’t bring it up.
This is Walky’s POV. Consider church as a family outing and a way to be part of the local community. And then you send your kid to boarding school because she tried to rob a store.
How keen would you be to face the community after that? Or how much a family outing would feel like a stab in the wound?
I don’t know if that’s the real reason, but it makes more sense to me. And also Walky tends to have a self-centred perspective which makes him an unreliable narrator when it comes to stuff that hits close to home.
Linda isn’t the Ouroboros of evil that the comments section likes to paint her as. She’s just occasionally shitty just like people can often be, with or without kids.
Considering Walky and Sal were (I think) 13 at the time, I wonder if this is just some bs Linda said and Walky believed, or something he made up and forgot he did so.
They’re Chreasters, which is an actual term. Christmas and Easter.
But were they Catholic Chreasters or was the Catholic boarding school used because there aren’t many evangelical boarding schools? Because Catholics usually hold on to kids through confirmation in high school. Which seems unlikely.
That makes sense. Being absolved of sins when you haven’t committed any is pointless. You’ve got to commit some sins first, or you’re just wasting everyone’s time.
thejeff
One of my favorite ancient heresies was the idea that since God shows His glory and mercy by forgiving sin, we should sin a lot in order to allow Him more opportunity to do so.
Taffy
Wouldn’t wanna deprive ol’ Chuck of a chance to flex his forgiveness, right?
I’m going with Lucy/Walky. With Sal’s realization that her Mom only approved of Danny I think Sal is going to internalize that and see her relationship with Danny as being a manifestation for her mother’s approval, which she will never reslly have, and therefore she should dump Danny.
We’ve already went through how that’s not happening, within a single strip. She’s not gonna let her shitty mom ruin one of the best things she’s got going on right now
185 thoughts on “Normal amount”
Doctor_Who
Lucy, if he downloads a rom of Bible Adventures and plays that naked, it still counts as attending church, so there’s your loophole.
RassilonTDavros
Ahh, the halcyon days where you could get your unlicensed game to run on an unmodded console* just by including another cartridge slot for a licensed game on top. Yet another thing the Christian teen experience has in common with Sonic the Hedgehog.
*Assuming you had a top-loader, anyway.
Cholma
If Lucy’s looking for a loophole, she could take Garfunkle & Oates’ advice!
Durandal_1707
You’ll never get that game’s immortal soundtrack out of your head:
Neh. Neh neh, neh neh neh neh neh neh neh neh neh neh neh. Neh neh. Neh neh neh. Nehnehnehnehnehnehneh, neh neh neh neh
Furie
Do you want succubi? Because THAT is how you get succubi.
Taffy
The fun kind, or the boring “ooga booga scary nightmare monster” kind?
CardinalFan
Yes.
Thag Simmons
Becky never really been one to mince words, eh
C.T. Phipps
Becky: You could have so much fun at church!
Walky: I don’t believe in Primus or Gandalf.
Lucy: I DO!
NGPZ
Surrender to temptation Lucy!
(you’re certainly not gonna regret less time with Linda, just sayin’)
NGPZ
In other words,
“Forget life, play Snood!”
With your girlfriend! NAKED!!!! ?
NGPZ
*plays “Eggplant” from Spelunky Soundtrack on hacked muzak*
Steve C
I want this pin up!
HueSatLight
I’m pretty sure Linda’s not going to be at Lucy’s church she hadn’t heard of. She’s more likely to show up at Walky’s dorm room. And then they’ll have to sneak out through the half bath, and Ken and Arnold will make an appearance, ok I’m on board.
Angel
do we even know if linda invited them out again anywhere? I assume they wouldn’t go to the church service since walky phrased it in a way that’d be like “i’ll go to church with you and then report to my parents about how you’re a nice churchgoing girl” tho i imagine they might not be fond of religion or at least churches/organized groups if linda was willing to sue joyce’s church after that whole incident
thejeff
Even then the whole “tell your parents” part was Lucy. I read Walky’s offer as just to do something with Lucy to make up for the meeting with his parents being so awful. Lucy took it in the “scheme to make them like her” direction, but I don’t think Walky had any such ideas.
Taffy
Yeah, that’s just not how that conversation happened. He never said anything of the sort, he just offered to go, period. Linda is completely uninvolved, has nothing to do with it, wasn’t included in the conversation, and hasn’t been contacted about it on-panel. The only relevance she has is through Lucy’s dumbass need to please the unpleasable.
HueSatLight
That whole relationship is Walky uttering things without saying what he’s thinking, Lucy reading something else into them and saying it out loud, and then Walky choosing not to clarify.
Mark
Lucy has been in serious negotiations with Temptation for some time. Surrender is a done deal; now they’re just working out the timing.
Sirksome
Naked gaming has proven to be the better option. Take the out, Walkman.
HueSatLight
Take out “the Walkman”.
Rose by Any Other Name
Take the Walkman out.
David DeLaney
Out-take: the Walkman
–Dave, if you’re old enough to remember it, no you don’t
RassilonTDavros
I will never forgive Robert Zemeckis for leaving the scene of Principal Strickland crushing students’ confiscated Walkmen (Walkmans?) on the cutting room floor.
Van Jealous
Come now…..NO DON’T!
Osopescado
Naked video game sessions are truly second to none in terms of relaxation, fulfillment and self realization.
clif
Not really, but who cares.
Taffy
This response doesn’t make much sense. Was it meant for a different post?
StClair
ohhh myyyy
Viktoria
“We were Xmas and Easter Christians until we sent my sister away to Catholic boarding school, at which point we considered our obligations to God moot and stopped bothering with religion at all.”
Ummm…None of that is how any of it works, but specifically, Linda used “we locked Sally up in a religious institution” as an excuse to stop being religious? Like she was paying off a debt to God with one of her own kids?
I know we say it pretty often around here, but Linda is a terrible mother.
C.T. Phipps
I mean, Walky is an atheist and only culturally Christian (which is pretty common) so he doesn’t really care whatsoever about what was really motivating all this.
HueSatLight
I don’t think we know that he’s an atheist. Just that he’s irreligious. A person can think a god or gods exist and be disinterested in them.
shellshockbp
He called God “sky daddy” when talking to Joyce in a strip right after he started dating Dorothy. I think it’s safe to assume he’s at least agnostic atheist.
HueSatLight
that’s not inconsistent with someone who believes a god or gods exist but they are indifferent to humans. I’ll see if I can find that strip to get the whole conversation though.
HueSatLight
https://www.dumbingofage.com/skywizard/ I’m just getting irreligious and troll out of this, not necessarily atheist.
BBCC
Last time Willis said anything about it, he said the Walkerton family was agnostic/unconcerned about god. Not an atheist, but not a believer either.
EmCaCo
I would call them “apatheist”
Just sort of believe it as a baseline, don’t care enough to get involved or really examine it in any direction.
Jo_Cubstar
Yeah it doesn’t make sense to me
Coatl
With every action Linda has already taken with this pair, it is more evident that it is always a cruel result.
Doctor_Who
I mean, if one kid is getting twice as much church, the other must not need any, stands to reason.
God can’t argue with math, he invented it.
Thag Simmons
I think Walky’s mainly talking for himself there.
Bash
I don’t think that was Linda’s actual reason. Someone else suggested that maybe there was too much gossip about the incident. Or maybe they just got tired of going, or it didn’t seem worth it anymore with the family split up.
Archieve
I’d buy the avoiding church due to gossip angle.. mostly because Linda seemed to only be going for appearances/connections and can’t take any suggestion that she’s a less then perfect parent so just dropped it once it became less then perfectly convenient.
HueSatLight
I expect he ran out of “being serious for a moment” and that’s him making a joke because they happened about the same time.
Much more likely they didn’t go to Easter and Christmas services anymore because Linda thought people would see them without Sal and think Linda was a bad parent.
Tan
It is extremely common for not-that-religious-but-not-atheist parents to feel like they’re supposed to see that their children are ‘properly’ raised in the church, even against said children’s wishes. It’s also extremely common that as said children grow up, it starts to become more optional. My suspicion would be that that WOULD have been the case for the Walkertons, except Linda seeing that Sal was “on a bad track” figured church was a good influence. Once Sal was shipped off to boarding school, that wasn’t really a concern anymore, and none of them really wanted to go, so it just sort of naturally fell out of the routine.
Of course none of that would’ve been made explicit, certainly not to Walky, so he drew his own connections and attached his own explanation for it.
thejeff
That kind of makes sense, though I’d expect that to be more the shift from “Church every Sunday” to “Easter/Christmas” than from “Easter/Christmas” to nothing at all. Few would expect a couple sermons a year to make any difference to a kid on a bad track.
Steve C
Pretty much. My mom figured that I should be baptized and confirmed and go to Sunday School, but we only went to church when me or my brother were asked to act as ushers or participate in some other way. As for Christmas, I considered my Mom paying lip service to all of us going to the candlelight service but not following through as a family holiday tradition. I was disappointed the year she didn’t bring it up.
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This is Walky’s POV. Consider church as a family outing and a way to be part of the local community. And then you send your kid to boarding school because she tried to rob a store.
How keen would you be to face the community after that? Or how much a family outing would feel like a stab in the wound?
I don’t know if that’s the real reason, but it makes more sense to me. And also Walky tends to have a self-centred perspective which makes him an unreliable narrator when it comes to stuff that hits close to home.
Linda isn’t the Ouroboros of evil that the comments section likes to paint her as. She’s just occasionally shitty just like people can often be, with or without kids.
Chubsius
Considering Walky and Sal were (I think) 13 at the time, I wonder if this is just some bs Linda said and Walky believed, or something he made up and forgot he did so.
Hof1991
They’re Chreasters, which is an actual term. Christmas and Easter.
But were they Catholic Chreasters or was the Catholic boarding school used because there aren’t many evangelical boarding schools? Because Catholics usually hold on to kids through confirmation in high school. Which seems unlikely.
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
She’s a two-bit classist climber with control issues. For people like her, what’s the point of believing in a god that isn’t at your beck and call?
Schpoonman
C’mon, Lucy, priorities.
Attend first service THEN skip whatever with Linda and Charles to play video games naked for the rest of the day.
Yotomoe
She wants to sin BEFORE church so that she can be absolved of them later.
deliverything
That makes sense. Being absolved of sins when you haven’t committed any is pointless. You’ve got to commit some sins first, or you’re just wasting everyone’s time.
thejeff
One of my favorite ancient heresies was the idea that since God shows His glory and mercy by forgiving sin, we should sin a lot in order to allow Him more opportunity to do so.
Taffy
Wouldn’t wanna deprive ol’ Chuck of a chance to flex his forgiveness, right?
Schpoonman
“Oh, hell yeah, these are the sins I died for.”
Mark
Nope, Paul addressed that one directly.
thejeff
That’s why it’s a heresy 🙂
darkgloomie
She should oook into absolution IOU
David DeLaney
that’s not video games
–Dave, that’s the Librarian
C.T. Phipps
It seems Lucy has forgiven Walky the ladyboner killer that is his parents.
Suet
Curse you, Hymmel the Hymnal
Yeah, alt, as long as Lucy’s coming on time, that is… *hurriedly plays Could It Be Magic by Donna Summer*
DailyBrad
I do kind of wonder who bones first, Walky and Lucy or Danny and Sal.
Thag Simmons
Leaning Walky/Lucy, neither Danny or Sal are so enthusiastic to fuck as Lucy is and I feel like the music nerds have better long term odds
Proxiehunter
20 quataloons on Danny and Walky.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
40 quatloos on the NewComers!
Needfuldoer
3 bars of latinum on Walky-Lucy.
David DeLaney
I think we’ve got 12:1 on Lucy & Sal, by accident
–Dave, Lucy recalls a previous incarnation in which she was Amazi-Girl, snd it just sort of snowballs helplessly from there
lyzyrdwyzyrd
I’m going with Lucy/Walky. With Sal’s realization that her Mom only approved of Danny I think Sal is going to internalize that and see her relationship with Danny as being a manifestation for her mother’s approval, which she will never reslly have, and therefore she should dump Danny.
zee
We’ve already went through how that’s not happening, within a single strip. She’s not gonna let her shitty mom ruin one of the best things she’s got going on right now
Coatl