There is no butt but Butts butt, but Butt’s butt’s butter be the Butte butt stopper.
Demoted Oblivious
They pronounce it “BYE-yoot”
clif
I thought that BYE-yoots was what they called all the cricks in Louisianeer.
Demoted Oblivious
Maybe, but, butt, Butte, I’m just talking a-boot Montana.
clif
Montana? Does Montana abutt Indiana?
All those states in the frozen wastelands north of Oklahoma look the same.
clif
Actually, I would have said, there is no butt but Butt’s butt and Becky is it’s profit, but then I would have probably ended up on an infant-tata list somewhere and been debutticated to make a point.
clif
I mean, some of those Masonic Druidic Hindu groups have no sense of humor.
clif
I WAS BEBUTTICATED AND ALL I HAVE TO SHOW FOR IT ARE THESE BLOODY PREPRINTED GYMN SHORTS.
Ed Rhodes
I’m not certain if I hear that as the closing song from; “You Can’t Stop The Music.” (Trust me, you don’t want to see it.)
Or the last song from “Hairspray.” (A much better musical.)
There are actually extra seats just off screen, but Sal and Carla don’t sit because they are too cool, and Carnotauruses can’t use chairs. Because they are too cool.
I mean there definitely are extra seats offscreen, since Roz, Walky, Booster, Lucy, the Rachels and Bloodrose aren’t accounted for in the group shot, despite this meeting being attended by everyone + 3
No one was elected since Robin dropped out. Her opponent would then have won by acclamation.
Argh. Except that I just learned that’s a Canadianism. Not sure what it’d be called in Indianna. But if it’s uncontested it can hardly be called an election.
I never heard of acclamation being Canadian, and it has certainly been used in business meetings my entire life. But acclamation doesn’t mean elected running unnopposed, it means a decision was made on which everybody agreed. Seldom the case in selecting a political officeholder, but frequently the case in organizations dedicated to a particular purpose.
Maybe Canadians use it differently.
Demoted Oblivious
According to the wikis-pedia, in the canada it’s an officially recognized term for an uncontested electoral position. Certainly other areas use the term, but in the more common sense that a decision is made by verbal vote (ayes & nays).
In a lot of places in the US elections are uncontested. The vast majority of my ballot options for example have only one person running and only a 2 of those uncontested options have write in options.
So the positions I can vote for that have multiple picks are President, Congress, County Commissioner, and three others dealing with our state courts. The other 13 races are all uncontested. I just don’t bother filling those in. No point voting for an uncontested race.
Likely too late for her to officially drop out. Her name would still have been on the ballot. Her withdrawal announcement certainly would have cut into her support though.
It was still an election.
Bicycle Bill
I’m more inclined to believe this. And I also believe she got votes anyway. There are several instances where a candidate who died prior to the election still ended up winning the vote (and just as an aside, how would you like to be the candidate who lost to a dead guy?)
However, to address Garrulous above, even for the work-a-day positions like clerk of court, registrar of deeds, or animal control office (dog-catcher) on the lower end of my ballot here in Wisconsin, there is still room for a write-in vote.
Probably one or more of those minor parties that won’t ever win ran a counter-candidate, so the election probably wasn’t even unconstested even if the result was obvious to everyone paying attention ahead of time.
Yeah, not really a thing in the US. If she dropped out after the ballot was finalized, she’d still be on it. If she dropped out before they were finalized, her party could probably replace her, if not it would just be an uncontested election.
In either case, the election would go on. The only way someone wouldn’t be elected to office would be if zero votes were cast.
No, Dorothy was approached for advice after Becky got the job. The job was open because Roz set up a meet-cute for Robin and Leslie and it worked in the weirdest way possible, because Robin. Robin met Becky in Leslie’s apartment, and Becky acquired Robin’s phone because of said proximity.
So yeah. Roz can take credit for pushing the boulder off the cliff. The collateral damage is mostly Robin’s fault. Actually threading the needle in any kind of way is to Becky’s credit.
Robin chose to withdraw on her own. Becky created a scenario which led to Robin growing as a person, but it is not Becky’s responsibility or fault that Robin did so.
The one person in the room personally responsible for the outcome of the election was Joyce. Without Joyce being there, Becky never shows up to become Robin’s campaign manager and so Robin never drops out to prove to Becky that she cares about her as a person.
Without Roz making the connection between Leslie and Robin, Becky never gets the chance to hack Robin’s social media and thus get hired and make that personal connection.
clif
Without Walky and Sal, their mother would have never left the Dean, and so he would have never become the Dean, and so he would never have hired Lesley.
Without Mike …
Demoted Oblivious
Obie’s Trike
Booster-name’s no gimmick
…
Now this looks like a job for Mike
So every tike, just follow Mike
‘Cause we need not another useless like
‘Cause it feels so empty without Mike
clif
I name you poet lariat.
Demoted Oblivious
If I have spit further it’s because I rapped off the shoulders of giants.
Does Roz really get to rub it in if Robin dropped out of the race of her own accord, for totally understandable reasons that even Roz can’t really disapprove of?
I kind of discovered this kinda line of thinking after I became a dirty liberal, and it’s kinda gross. All these fuckin “big picture” folk that want so badly for progress in society and they just… ignore whatever would taint the “big picture.” Roz’s classmate died, her relationship with her sister is FUBAR, other classmates kidnapped, an abusive parent beating the shit out of his daughter, fuggin using her professor as a fucking tool to torpedo her sister’s career.
But we got another progressive candidate in the fucking *House*. Because *that* should be our takeaway, and absolutely should be used to counter a statement about how shitty the previous semester was in front of their classmates that did all the suffering just a handful of weeks ago.
Roz has got a blind spot the size of Jupiter’s GRS, and I’m getting really tired of her not getting the karma for it. She, what, got dunked on by earlier stated professor once?
clif
Not to mention classmates attempting suicide, a classmate getting roofied, an attack on a classmate by a knife wielding attempted rapist, two classmates getting involved in a rumble and to top it off, the defacement of doors by the Ding Dong bandit.
He Who Abides
Does Roz know about Joyce getting roofied, though? I mean, she’s being shitty either way and I’m not saying otherwise, but it’s hard to blame her for ignoring something she doesn’t know about.
clif
My very failable memory suggests it was explained to her in gender studies class after she was complaining about the party being ruined.
thejeff
I don’t think it was explained. Just enough that she got the idea something bad had happened, but not the details.
Yes, a lot of people in the dorm had the worst days of their lives happen in that semester. But things for the entire congressional district and, arguably, nation improved a small amount as well.
Because today is the worst day of a lot of people’s lives.
So was yesterday.
And the day before that. And the day before that.
And even every single day that didn’t happen during a complete dumpster fire of a year too.
Individual tragedies happen all the time. My thought is that Roz is just taking this massively macro view on it, where the good that a better representative in congress will do would outweigh the handful of individual tragedies.
This, of course, is not to say that those tragedies were any less horrific. Of course they were awful and vile and should never have ever fucking happened (……as inevitable as some of them may have been 🙁 ), but just that the world is bigger than this one dorm, and it’s not an awful thing to acknowledge that.
………..that said, Roz is being a complete fucking ass here by rolling a fucking 1 on her diplomacy check. That sorta crap isn’t the thing you say in front of those that are maybe still fucking traumatized by that crap.
Regalli
Yeah, it’s that last one that’s the sticking point. Especially when Ruth’s talking more about their wing, in particular, where the micro view’s more relevant to the conversation. And in this case the micro view is ‘kidnapping at gunpoint; rapist with a knife attempted to invade our dorm and was only stopped by our hallmate stabbing the shit out of him; almost immediately after the Creepy Dude the next wing over’s list of sexual objectification leaked and hey, THAT’S not remotely triggering or anything!; fire alarm got pulled at like 3 AM during midterms week and that was actually the Least Bad Thing to happen to our hall that day because a shitload of people got kidnapped and witnessed a murder; by the way, another person in the building died due to the kidnappers.’
On the macro level, it was just a random semester. For that hall in particular, holy fuckcakes the drama there.
Regalli
Oh, right, and also ‘our RA was blackmailed by a homophobic hallmate until she was suicidal and despite her being transparently not up for the job, she kept it somehow.’ Sure, it’s easy enough to shun Mary after that, but at the same time holy fuck that’s terrible, plus they still had to deal with Ruth.
Jhon
‘our RA body-slammed a coupla jerks but kept her job’
FTFY
Regalli
Ruth was transparently terrible at her job due to being physically abusive, but they already knew her boss didn’t care about that. (Well, the upperclassmen knew but word spreads fast.)
Ruth keeping her job even once it was abundantly clear she couldn’t even perform it TERRIBLY was new.
240 thoughts on “Nuance”
Ana Chronistic
“YOUR butt is a FACE”
“whut”
“FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE”
Chris
Stop the faces.
butts
don’t stop the butts
Emperor Norton II
Your butt is a butt!
clif
There is no butt but Butts butt, but Butt’s butt’s butter be the Butte butt stopper.
Demoted Oblivious
They pronounce it “BYE-yoot”
clif
I thought that BYE-yoots was what they called all the cricks in Louisianeer.
Demoted Oblivious
Maybe, but, butt, Butte, I’m just talking a-boot Montana.
clif
Montana? Does Montana abutt Indiana?
All those states in the frozen wastelands north of Oklahoma look the same.
clif
Actually, I would have said, there is no butt but Butt’s butt and Becky is it’s profit, but then I would have probably ended up on an infant-tata list somewhere and been debutticated to make a point.
clif
I mean, some of those Masonic Druidic Hindu groups have no sense of humor.
clif
I WAS BEBUTTICATED AND ALL I HAVE TO SHOW FOR IT ARE THESE BLOODY PREPRINTED GYMN SHORTS.
Ed Rhodes
I’m not certain if I hear that as the closing song from; “You Can’t Stop The Music.” (Trust me, you don’t want to see it.)
Or the last song from “Hairspray.” (A much better musical.)
Ed Rhodes
Oh, here;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajU1H_X1MfE
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZnt-0fEiT0
FacelessDeviant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pURJDToKA0k
This is what I hear.
maarvarq
You can’t stop the butts, nobody can stop the butts!
Ana Chronistic
better faces then feces
Doctor_Who
There are actually extra seats just off screen, but Sal and Carla don’t sit because they are too cool, and Carnotauruses can’t use chairs. Because they are too cool.
UnfrozenNeanderthal
I mean there definitely are extra seats offscreen, since Roz, Walky, Booster, Lucy, the Rachels and Bloodrose aren’t accounted for in the group shot, despite this meeting being attended by everyone + 3
Doctor_Who
I get the impression from panel 4 that the +3 are just standing against the wall and observing.
And I’ve decided that the reason we can’t ever see Bloodrose is the same reason we can’t see Cambot in MST3K. This is all her POV.
UnfrozenNeanderthal
Eh, we’ve seen her in the background. So unless she has weird vampire powers that’s not it.
Deanatay
As they are your avatar, I must accept both that they have weird vampire powers AND that this is their POV.
Lingo
Not to mention Amber and Malaya.
Blackdrazon
If you think about it, if Carla sat down, she wouldn’t be rollerskating, which is unacceptable.
Bicycle Bill
So who DID we elect?
Proxiehunter
The candidate that wasn’t Robin. Robin dropped out.
Doctor_Who
I believe it was Jacob Manley, the guy Robin had a fling with back in SP. Don’t think he’s appeared in person, but he’s been named.
Demoted Oblivious
No one was elected since Robin dropped out. Her opponent would then have won by
acclamation.
Argh. Except that I just learned that’s a Canadianism. Not sure what it’d be called in Indianna. But if it’s uncontested it can hardly be called an election.
clif
I never heard of acclamation being Canadian, and it has certainly been used in business meetings my entire life. But acclamation doesn’t mean elected running unnopposed, it means a decision was made on which everybody agreed. Seldom the case in selecting a political officeholder, but frequently the case in organizations dedicated to a particular purpose.
Maybe Canadians use it differently.
Demoted Oblivious
According to the wikis-pedia, in the canada it’s an officially recognized term for an uncontested electoral position. Certainly other areas use the term, but in the more common sense that a decision is made by verbal vote (ayes & nays).
Garrulous
In a lot of places in the US elections are uncontested. The vast majority of my ballot options for example have only one person running and only a 2 of those uncontested options have write in options.
So the positions I can vote for that have multiple picks are President, Congress, County Commissioner, and three others dealing with our state courts. The other 13 races are all uncontested. I just don’t bother filling those in. No point voting for an uncontested race.
thejeff
Likely too late for her to officially drop out. Her name would still have been on the ballot. Her withdrawal announcement certainly would have cut into her support though.
It was still an election.
Bicycle Bill
I’m more inclined to believe this. And I also believe she got votes anyway. There are several instances where a candidate who died prior to the election still ended up winning the vote (and just as an aside, how would you like to be the candidate who lost to a dead guy?)
However, to address Garrulous above, even for the work-a-day positions like clerk of court, registrar of deeds, or animal control office (dog-catcher) on the lower end of my ballot here in Wisconsin, there is still room for a write-in vote.
Vegetalss4
Probably one or more of those minor parties that won’t ever win ran a counter-candidate, so the election probably wasn’t even unconstested even if the result was obvious to everyone paying attention ahead of time.
Victor
Yeah, not really a thing in the US. If she dropped out after the ballot was finalized, she’d still be on it. If she dropped out before they were finalized, her party could probably replace her, if not it would just be an uncontested election.
In either case, the election would go on. The only way someone wouldn’t be elected to office would be if zero votes were cast.
Chris
What’s this “we”? There is one person in this room who is personally responsible for the outcome of that election.
Matthew Wells
Hey, Roz got Becky hired by ruining all of Robin’s other professional relationships. A team effort.
TemperaryObsessor
Wasn’t that Dorothy?
Jamie
No, Dorothy was approached for advice after Becky got the job. The job was open because Roz set up a meet-cute for Robin and Leslie and it worked in the weirdest way possible, because Robin. Robin met Becky in Leslie’s apartment, and Becky acquired Robin’s phone because of said proximity.
So yeah. Roz can take credit for pushing the boulder off the cliff. The collateral damage is mostly Robin’s fault. Actually threading the needle in any kind of way is to Becky’s credit.
UnfrozenNeanderthal
You could justifiably be talking about either Roz *or* Becky here
Demoted Oblivious
Robin chose to withdraw on her own. Becky created a scenario which led to Robin growing as a person, but it is not Becky’s responsibility or fault that Robin did so.
clif
The one person in the room personally responsible for the outcome of the election was Joyce. Without Joyce being there, Becky never shows up to become Robin’s campaign manager and so Robin never drops out to prove to Becky that she cares about her as a person.
thejeff
Without Roz making the connection between Leslie and Robin, Becky never gets the chance to hack Robin’s social media and thus get hired and make that personal connection.
clif
Without Walky and Sal, their mother would have never left the Dean, and so he would have never become the Dean, and so he would never have hired Lesley.
Without Mike …
Demoted Oblivious
Obie’s Trike
Booster-name’s no gimmick
…
Now this looks like a job for Mike
So every tike, just follow Mike
‘Cause we need not another useless like
‘Cause it feels so empty without Mike
clif
I name you poet lariat.
Demoted Oblivious
If I have spit further it’s because I rapped off the shoulders of giants.
Lingo
Without Toe-Dad, Becky would never have been born….
Jade
Roz: I know a bunch of my dormmates got kidnapped, and two of their dads died in the same day, but at least my sister is out of office.
Cattleprod
Yeah, I feel like Roz might not be the most unbiased source about Robin. No one else can throw losing her job in her face at family gatherings.
Doctor_Who
Does Roz really get to rub it in if Robin dropped out of the race of her own accord, for totally understandable reasons that even Roz can’t really disapprove of?
Aw, who am I kidding, like that would stop her.
Nono
I mean, Riley could, but she would never.
UnfrozenNeanderthal
I mean there are more than three DeSantos
They’re apparently quite numerous
Needfuldoer
Riley is the best DeSanto we’ve met so far. Even in the Walkyverse she was the most even-keeled.
Cholma
Yep. Roz has a seriously selfish point of view here. “Oh sure, it sucked for YOU guys, but for me, I’d call it a Win.”
Abdomino
I kind of discovered this kinda line of thinking after I became a dirty liberal, and it’s kinda gross. All these fuckin “big picture” folk that want so badly for progress in society and they just… ignore whatever would taint the “big picture.” Roz’s classmate died, her relationship with her sister is FUBAR, other classmates kidnapped, an abusive parent beating the shit out of his daughter, fuggin using her professor as a fucking tool to torpedo her sister’s career.
But we got another progressive candidate in the fucking *House*. Because *that* should be our takeaway, and absolutely should be used to counter a statement about how shitty the previous semester was in front of their classmates that did all the suffering just a handful of weeks ago.
Roz has got a blind spot the size of Jupiter’s GRS, and I’m getting really tired of her not getting the karma for it. She, what, got dunked on by earlier stated professor once?
clif
Not to mention classmates attempting suicide, a classmate getting roofied, an attack on a classmate by a knife wielding attempted rapist, two classmates getting involved in a rumble and to top it off, the defacement of doors by the Ding Dong bandit.
He Who Abides
Does Roz know about Joyce getting roofied, though? I mean, she’s being shitty either way and I’m not saying otherwise, but it’s hard to blame her for ignoring something she doesn’t know about.
clif
My very failable memory suggests it was explained to her in gender studies class after she was complaining about the party being ruined.
thejeff
I don’t think it was explained. Just enough that she got the idea something bad had happened, but not the details.
Wraithy2773
But is it a selfish point of view?
Yes, a lot of people in the dorm had the worst days of their lives happen in that semester. But things for the entire congressional district and, arguably, nation improved a small amount as well.
Because today is the worst day of a lot of people’s lives.
So was yesterday.
And the day before that. And the day before that.
And even every single day that didn’t happen during a complete dumpster fire of a year too.
Individual tragedies happen all the time. My thought is that Roz is just taking this massively macro view on it, where the good that a better representative in congress will do would outweigh the handful of individual tragedies.
This, of course, is not to say that those tragedies were any less horrific. Of course they were awful and vile and should never have ever fucking happened (……as inevitable as some of them may have been 🙁 ), but just that the world is bigger than this one dorm, and it’s not an awful thing to acknowledge that.
………..that said, Roz is being a complete fucking ass here by rolling a fucking 1 on her diplomacy check. That sorta crap isn’t the thing you say in front of those that are maybe still fucking traumatized by that crap.
Regalli
Yeah, it’s that last one that’s the sticking point. Especially when Ruth’s talking more about their wing, in particular, where the micro view’s more relevant to the conversation. And in this case the micro view is ‘kidnapping at gunpoint; rapist with a knife attempted to invade our dorm and was only stopped by our hallmate stabbing the shit out of him; almost immediately after the Creepy Dude the next wing over’s list of sexual objectification leaked and hey, THAT’S not remotely triggering or anything!; fire alarm got pulled at like 3 AM during midterms week and that was actually the Least Bad Thing to happen to our hall that day because a shitload of people got kidnapped and witnessed a murder; by the way, another person in the building died due to the kidnappers.’
On the macro level, it was just a random semester. For that hall in particular, holy fuckcakes the drama there.
Regalli
Oh, right, and also ‘our RA was blackmailed by a homophobic hallmate until she was suicidal and despite her being transparently not up for the job, she kept it somehow.’ Sure, it’s easy enough to shun Mary after that, but at the same time holy fuck that’s terrible, plus they still had to deal with Ruth.
Jhon
‘our RA body-slammed a coupla jerks but kept her job’
FTFY
Regalli
Ruth was transparently terrible at her job due to being physically abusive, but they already knew her boss didn’t care about that. (Well, the upperclassmen knew but word spreads fast.)
Ruth keeping her job even once it was abundantly clear she couldn’t even perform it TERRIBLY was new.
Sirksome
It’s a really tone deaf take. I’m a little surprised she even said it.
StClair
It’s Roz. I’m not.
Jade
OH I FORGOT: ALSO, MIKE DIED!
clif
Followed shortly thereafter by Ethan, Jacob, Jason, Joyce.s mom and most recently Billie.
Reltzik
Plot twist: Mike’s alive and in witness protection. The cover story is that he’s dead but his best friends know better.
clif
And everyone pretends that Booster doesn’t look exactly like Mike except for the glasses.
Needfuldoer