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Observe
Posted on April 20, 2024 by David M Willis

297 thoughts on “Observe”

  1. Ana Chronistic

    Well how ELSE will she become a Porn Lady if she doesn’t get direct exposure

    …

    ?

    ?

    1. Decidedly Orthogonal

      Pimpness makes perfect!

  2. NGPZ

    *plays “Funky Town” by Lipps on hacked muzak*

    1. Needfuldoer

      The first thing I think of when I hear the name “Funky Town” is the theme park from Doug.

  3. Doctor_Who

    Joyce: Ooh, idea, if we place an angled mirror in the right spot, I’ll just see two of you going at it, that’s even better!

    1. Rose by Any Other Name

      I believe the term is “down bad”.

      1. ktbear

        It certainly would be if you were talking to a dog.

        1. Laura

          Joyce can get pretty dogged about her projects!

      2. BohNo

        Joyce: “no no, i think i put the mirror down here pretty good, it’s really getting your best angles”

  4. IntangibleMatter

    If Joyce had access to regular media and wasn’t incredibly sheltered as a child she would’ve been a Tumblr Shipper™ and you cannot change my mind.

    She also would’ve had all the baggage that comes with that.

    Honestly not much would change.

    1. Dot

      She knows what shipping is. She shipped Billie and Walky early in the school year.

      1. IntangibleMatter

        Oh she definitely ships, but she never got the chance to be a zealous teenage media shipper

        1. Decidedly Orthogonal

          Well she could (have) always jump into tiktok with both feet and become a zealous teenage media stripper.

          …

          Oh. OH. *SHIP*per. I guess I’m thirstier than I thought. Mea gulpa.

        2. Jamie

          I read the second half of this comment first, and I thought you intended “sipper”.

          …what.

      2. TheScreenJockey

        Yeah, but her version of shipping was “They will chastely hold hands and perhaps, after they are married, smooch in the privacy of their bedroom.”

    2. Thag Simmons

      Honestly she might have been anyways

      Just for whatever esoteric fundamentalist kid’s programming she watched. She was popping the biggest bottles when Hymnstity happened tomorrow

    3. Rowan

      Agreed; I was a religion sheltered teenage Tumblr shipper myself.
      What baggage would you say it creates? I think it just introduced me to a couple of kinks.

  5. Sirksome

    This convinces me Joyce would be down to shake the bed if Dorothy was a soaking enthusiast. There’s a term for that person but I’m not in the culture enough to remember that.

    1. Rose by Any Other Name

      Joyce: “I really just want to see You having sex.”
      Dorothy: “I mean, I’m not really with anyone right now. The only action I’ve been getting, dryers aside, is with my dildo.”
      Joyce: “Oh! You could show me that! Then I wouldn’t have to close my eye!”

      1. Jeremiah

        It’s the perfect solution!

      2. Sirksome

        Not to get too technical on a joke, but I wonder if Dorothy actually has a toy? I feel like she wouldn’t have defaulted to using dryers or be so frustrated if she had a toy for herself which is kind of surprising since she seems pretty sex positive overall.

        1. Doopyboop

          I was also pretty surprised she didn’t have a toy, especially since in this strip she made a comment about how Joyce should buy personal lube https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-8/04-of-mike-and-men/halfirritated/ like I’d assume a sex toy would come with the lube unless it’s literally just for the fingers.

        2. TheScreenJockey

          You can get lube in any old supermarket or pharmacy, next to the skincare products. Sex toys tend to require a bit more a direct effort, and some stores will ID you for them (though there’s no legal requirement anywhere in North America to do so).

        3. Hof1991

          Walmart, Target and Amazon all carry them. Not even behind the counter. Walk in, pick them up, self check out. Not that I’d know about that.

        4. John Campbell

          I think the dryers were just for Joyce’s benefit.

        5. thejeff

          Yeah. A way to ease her into it, while bringing out a toy would have scared her off at once.
          And then she tried to take advantage of them herself because she was there and worked up.

        6. Taellosse

          Dorothy may or may not have a dildo, but I’d be astonished if she hasn’t got some sort of vibrator. Maybe just a rabbit or bullet vibe, rather than something designed for insertion – depends how her particular anatomy responds to different sorts of stimuli.

        7. Decidedly Orthogonal

          People don’t generally share sex toys with non-partners. A lot of people don’t share them with partners. That Dorothy didn’t whip out her personal toys, and instead introduced Joyce to something that might work for Joyce *now* isn’t terribly surprising. It’s have been more surprising if she had. Dorothy also likely would have realized Joyce might not have been comfortable jumping into sex toy purchases when she evidently hadn’t even orgasmed yet. Maybe now that is an option. But unless Dorothy and Joyce become intimate, it’s not safe sex to share toys with others.

      3. ValdVin

        Is Other Walky its name?

    2. Thag Simmons

      I want it to be like “operator” or “technician”, something very professional sounding

    3. Dante

      Bicurious? Biromantic Demisexual?

      Though I believe in Joyce’s case she’s just . A very repressed bi. She kind of got indignant about Ruth dating a dude and sone kiddos still think you can’t like both.

  6. General Tekno

    This leads into 20 years later when she has “internet pornlord” as a status title.

  7. GholaHalleck

    If Mike was alive he’d have puppets for this very thing. Dotty and Walky puppets. Lovingly sewn to scale and anatomically accurate.

    I miss mike…

    1. Diner Kinetic

      I’m sure he left joyce sex-ed muppets in his will

      1. Clif

        The fully formed Mike would have, but we only ever got the starter version.

        1. Delmore Slim

          Dumbing of Age Mike’s final form is Dorothy’s VP. She didn’t even choose him, he just sort of took the office and everyone is too afraid to ask him to leave.

        2. David DeLaney

          headcanon: ACCEPTED

          –Dave, and _all_ the ambassadors are afraid of him specifically. and not one will say why when asked

        3. Freemage

          And everyone is somehow sure that he was the one who cinched the election, but no one is quite certain how he got all the Deep South states to vote for her.

        4. Jamie

          Yes, please.

  8. Grimey

    Panel 5: When you realize the ‘inexperienced’ best friend is accidentally more kinky than everyone else. By far.

    1. Sirksome

      Virgins can be the most perverted folks you’ll ever know.

      1. StClair

        “Joyce, that’s… that’s not even wrong.“

    2. JA

      Ehh, Joyce was sheltered enough that I think the question was asked earnestly from a position of genuine naivety about how such things work. The booze isn’t helping with logic processing and Joyce’s filters are also down.

      1. Bash

        Probably no one has actually told Joyce how sex works. It seems she has some idea, but the reality is still a bit different.

        1. John Campbell

          I think Joyce’s sex education is a combination of, “The husband rubs his thingie on the wife’s tummy and puts a baby in her belly always every time and if they’re not married they get the AIDS,” and whatever anatomically improbable things are in Amber’s slashfics.

        2. Needfuldoer

          “Anatomically Improbable” is the name of her ten-volume box set.

          A copulation compilation, if you will.

        3. TrueVCU

          *cumpilation

        4. Dante

          She also sought out the Joe/Roz sex tape and researched anatomically correct dick shapes tho

        5. John Campbell

          Oh, yeah, I forgot about how if you want a baby and don’t get one, that’s God punishing you for something you did. If you don’t want a baby and do get one, that’s also God punishing you for something you did. Probably for rubbing his thingie on your tummy when you didn’t want a baby.

  9. Versen

    Ah yes, we’re finally going to new and exciting places.

    Weird, weird places.

    But hey, the washing machine was done totally sober so.

  10. UrsulaDavina

    I don’t remember my dorm room coming with drapes maybe it had Ventian blinds and hey how do you make a venitan blind? bam! Poke em the eyes!

    1. Dday

      Joyce will just bring some drapes its not complicated

      1. David DeLaney

        … those aren’t the drapes she was imagining hiding behind

        –Dave, hint: the carpet matches them

        1. Sajuuk-Khar

          She’s not going to be able to hide Walky’s gross body with Dorothy’s hair! Dorothy’s hair is way too short for that!

        2. butting

          Replacing Walky with Sal will make everything SO MUCH BETTER, Dorothy. It’s what a friend would do.

    2. eh, whatever

      Venetian, meaning “from Venice”

      1. Disastroid

        Don’t accidentally use Venutian blinds. They really heat up the room.

        1. John Campbell

          Clearly the appropriate blinds for the situation would be Venereal blinds.

    3. Rose by Any Other Name

      Alt plan — Joyce puts a lampshade over her head and pretends to be a lamp.

  11. Animedingo

    LET HER COOK

    1. NGPZ

      *plays “Dead Fingers Talking” by Working For a Nuclear Free City on hacked muzak*

  12. Sajuuk-Khar

    “Dorothy, no, it’s cool! It’ll be like I’m your sex tape camerawoman! Who tells Walky to stop talking! And then tells him to stop smiling! And then I’ll put a bag over his head! And then I’ll make him wear a green Lycra bodysuit so I can edit him out!”

  13. Blume

    JOYCE.

    1. Rose by Any Other Name

      DOROTHY

      1. Dara

        Doctor Scott!

        1. butting

          Happy birthday Tim Curry, who made it to midnight without dying!

          (just don’t let him explain, that never ends well)

      2. jeffepp

        Oh, Joyce!

      3. Taffy

        CAGE MATCH

        1. David DeLaney

          ROCKY

          –Dave, … is Taffy a … v-word?

        2. Hacksaw

        3. Hoboturtle

          DONKEY!

        4. Taffy

          V-word?

        5. David DeLaney

          you’ve never seen the Rocky Horror Picture Show?

          –Dave, there’s certain technical terms involved

        6. Taffy

          I’ve seen it several times, but that doesn’t mean I’ve got every line committed to memory.

    2. Andrews

      Donkey!

  14. Samniel

    Dotty’s realizing that instead of giving her a “safe space” to explore her sexuality, she just opened Joyce’s floodgates.

    And this is how the polycule starts

    1. Rose by Any Other Name

      Oh goodness, I do hope so.
      Need more poly in fiction. And real life.

    2. Grimey

      Everyone said Joyce was going to trip into her sexuality. I’m surprised more of us didn’t have her tripping over Dorothy to get there.

      1. Switchchris26

        She didn’t just Trip, she took a trip off the high dive and did several flips on the way down, straight into her Sexuality.

    3. Sajuuk-Khar

      *Kronk voice* It’s all comin’ together.

      1. David DeLaney

        also, why does the bar even HAVE that lever

      2. Devin

        It’s gonna take them all a lot of practice to even try doing that.

        1. Sajuuk-Khar

          EYYYYYYYyyy [genuine enjoyment, fingerguns]

    4. John Campbell

      Joe/Joyce/Dorothy/Walky/Amber OTP.

      (The ‘P’ here stands for “Polymer chain”.)

      1. Devin

        Or Polycule?

        1. John Campbell

          Nah, “polymer chain” emphasizes that this is a linear arrangement, not just like a big blob. ‘Cause Dorothy doesn’t like Joe, Joyce doesn’t like Walky, Dorothy’s bisexuality seems to be only for Joyce, and Amber, strangely, appears to actually be straight… Walky may be bi, but I don’t think Joe is…

        2. Taellosse

          Hmm…Walky’s early knee-jerk homophobic attitudes didn’t read as repressed homosexual tendencies to me – just uncritical regurgitation of societal prejudice. He’s exhibited no symptoms of subconscious attraction to any other males that I can recall.

          On the other hand, Walky’s a notably late bloomer to sexuality in general – recall that he boasted of never having had a crush of any kind early in the first semester, before falling hard for Dorothy. It could simply be that he hasn’t met the right dude to awaken such feelings as yet.

      2. Dante

        That would def qualify against Richard’s “don’t do anything that would make Thanksgivings awkward”.

  15. Nathan

    This is getting very Biblical.

    1. Clif

      It happens a Lot

      1. Amós Batista

        I got this reference

        1. David DeLaney

          I had Noah dea

        2. Laura

          Y’all are just RUTH less!
          NAY,-OH-MY gosh, I just don’t know what to do with youse!

          ?

        3. Laura

          (Meanwhile, Joyce is fiddling with her Zipporah…)

        4. NGPZ

          Let’s hope them girls don’t wake up naked and curse an entire bloodline during their first hangover.

          Well, at least lets not hope for the latter part.

  16. Thag Simmons

    Well, surprised it was Joyce who made the first faux-pas here, was really betting on Dorothy doing something dumb and impulsive

    1. Opus the Poet

      I wasn’t expecting this, but I was expecting Joyce to say something along these lines. Because drunk Joyce has no filter.

      1. Coatl

        indeed

  17. Aslan

    All right, this was not on my bingo card

    1. Clif

      You need a bigger bingo card.

      1. David DeLaney

        my bingo cards for the last several years haven’t even been 2D, they’ve been literally Hilbert spaces

        and still they keep being incomplete. I WANT A REFUND

  18. Proxiehunter

    So basically Joyce you just want to watch Dorothy. Naked and writhing in carnal pleasure.

    1. Mild Lee Interested

      They are obviously just very close friends.

      1. Hoboturtle

        How can you even say say you’re bros if you don’t kiss then on the forehead before going to sleep post-coitus

      2. Reltzik

        Pals. Gals who are pals.

        1. David DeLaney

          oh my GOD, they’ll be _roommates_

    2. Needfuldoer

      Well of course she wants to watch just Dorothy, because she needs to know what to do once she’s in that position. What other motive could she possibly have?

      /s

    3. thejeff

      Let’s be honest though, shipping speculation aside. She doesn’t want to watch Walky, because ew, it’s Walky. But she’s also absolutely lying about covering up his half, because she’s still in the “It’s okay to see girls naked because I am one, but not to see boys naked” stage. Along with a bit of “I wouldn’t want to look at your boy, because he’s yours.”

      1. Imogen

        I feel like this is very plausible as her rationale, but calling the most obvious reading–that Joyce has *incredibly* unsubtle feelings for Dorothy–“shipping speculation” feels a little dismissive in this context. Like, your reading is strong, but it’s also definitely more reaching than “okay, Joyce is extremely gay”. I think your reading is what Joyce tells herself.

        1. thejeff

          It’s a fair cop, and it’s obviously intended to tease that, but I do really think a lot of the signs people are using to claim that are better explained that way.

          Like there’s no way she’s not going to look, even if it’s Walky. That’s pure denial and once you see that the rest follows pretty clearly.

  19. Dara

    WOW

    WOOOOOOOOOOW

    Dorothy gets it!

    And Joyce wants to get it, from Dorothy!

    dang watching all those pieces fall into place in Dorothy’s head is amazing xD

  20. NGPZ

    Happy 4/20 to those who celebrate!!!!

    Even if you ain’t into weed, you should take this day to chill and relax like these Totally Not Gay™ girls.

    A bubble bath, some feel-good music or movies, laying out in the sun, a hike, your favorite comfort food, anything that’ll help you recharge! ^^

    I gotz some new edibles some days back, and just can’t seem to figure out which one to try first LOL (poll ends 4:20 PM EST)

    1. NGPZ

      For reals I’d like to hear what ya’ll have planned for today if anything

      1. M!a

        Personally? Nursing a heartbreak, so not much of anything except looking forward to falling asleep again.

      2. AY

        Going to Chaosium Con with my GM partner to find some new Call of Cthulhu material. Will be sober at least until we are done at the con, then fuck it, weed gummies.

      3. Mark

        Grocery shopping and getting the lawn mower ready to use. The fun never stops!

    2. Woop de doop

      I took a gummy and I watched a movie (Labyrinth) with my friends on discord! I think I’m gonna take another one soon. I also played a strange trippy game called Hylics. I looked up movies to watch while high and may try one of those. Happy 4/20!

      1. David DeLaney

        if Labyrinth was not already on that list you may need to find a more extensive one

    3. Taffy

      I’d love to celebrate, but my current home doesn’t allow it.

    4. NGPZ

      And the winner of the poll is…

      Pink Jesus Pomegranate Gummies!!!

      ???

      1. NGPZ

        say what? only 4:09 oh wait yeah server time LOL

        seems I’m in for quite the trip ?

        https://www.allbud.com/marijuana-strains/sativa-dominant-hybrid/pink-jesus

        1. David DeLaney

          she’s real fine, your 4:09

          –Dave, ‘notes’ emoji

    5. Meeks

      It’s only 2PM here, but around dinner time, I’m gonna take an edible and watch Who Framed Roger Rabbit with my girlfriend <3

  21. Pocky

    jut observe; with a little notepad for taking detailed notes . . like a well adjusted person would.

    1. NGPZ

      Like Dina, she shall also take copious notation!

    2. Holly

      Life drawing practise, if you will

  22. Ray

    ABSOLUTE hysterics.

  23. RassilonTDavros

    PFFFF- – -HAAAAHAHAHAAA

    (forgive my inability to properly transcribe maniacal laughter into text)

    1. David DeLaney

      canonically it’s MUAAA HA HA HA haaaa

      1. TerribleTransit

        No, no. MUAAA HA HA is for diabolical laughter. For maniacal, you want BWAAA HA HA

        1. David DeLaney

          *bows (grateful)*

  24. True Survivor

    Well I guess that is curtains on this episode (just make sure Joyce isn’t watching you from behind them. That little creep).

  25. DailyBrad

    Jesus, Willis, you are a master of your craft.

  26. Jeremiah

    It’s already been said but it bears repeating: There is literally no heterosexual explanation for this.

    1. chuckroast

      “I just… um… want to know… uhhh… how often you moan? Er- to moan, TO MOAN.”

  27. nobodybasically

    Sometimes from behind the drapes, but always dressed as Superman.

  28. Taffy

    Oh, you’ll hold hands while she’s jacking off but this is where you draw the line?

    1. Sajuuk-Khar

      You wanted all this, Poindexter, now you got it

      1. BohNo

        you could have it all…

        my empire of laundry detergent…

    2. shrub

      Bit of a hypocrite is ‘ol Dorothy

      1. Taffy

        That’s not how that works, but okay Chun Li.

    3. Dante

      She’s opened the floodgates and now she dares to complain she’s getting wet?

      … Wait, that sounds wrong.

  29. tenkiforecast

    Welp.
    Welp.
    In a (shocking) twist, the extremely sheltered young adult who has no experience or education is, uh…proposing things that are wild.

    Also I suspect that Joyce would have very selective interest in women. I think her latching onto Dorothy is because Dotty basically adopted her and helped get her out of an extremely abusive environment and a lot of stuff meshed together in weird ways.

    Sheltered people don’t necessarily need to be the weirdest/kinkiest, but they don’t have good exposure to know what is or is not considered ‘normal’. Another fun example in media is Kaguya-sama, where everyone assumes that Kaguya’s going to be into really weird stuff because she was so sheltered/had an insane start to her relationship…and nope, Kaguya’s actually very ‘vanilla’ who wants companionship more than physical interaction.

    1. Coatl

      Hey, what you’re saying makes sense… I wonder what kind of feelings she might have expressed with Sal or Jennifer.

    2. moon

      yup
      ive heard similar observations from ppl with technically “safe for work” fetishes/kinks (e.g. popping balloons) and were once repressed. like because sex was too shameful or unknown their hormone broiled brain latched onto something less direct.

    3. zee

      I mean that was partly fueled by her saying she’s done “it” multiple times, with family even. Until it was clarified that she thought “it” was kisses

      And iino just walking into the student council room at the absolute worst times. I don’t think there was much expressed thought of her as particularly kinky, tho her being a dominatrix was probably rumored amongst the guys bc anime highschool boys are just Like That

  30. HueSatLight

    Dorothy was expecting to watch her cum, so not sure why she’s getting weird about this. other than she’s hoping Joyce is being entirely serious and it’s getting her flustered.

  31. xeno

    honestly I think Joyce is Bi and just hasnt caught up to herself. there have been a few moments that seem like shes subconsciously answers and questions like she is. For example, when she got mad at Billie for being with Asher and said you cant like both, then the repeat dream she keeps having as well as the whole nurse office birth control auto answer backstory she gave the nurse without prompting for Dorothy and her.

    1. Jon

      I think if Joyce ever admitted to liking any girls, ever, Becky may literally explode with jealousy/devastation.

      1. Hacksaw

        I think Becky would just be all “I knew it!” and rib her a bunch. Her lust for Dina is as big as Jupiter.

        1. John Campbell

          That doesn’t mean she’s over Joyce. Because she is so not over Joyce.

        2. Jon

          Becky is so, so painfully obviously not over Joyce yet.

    2. HueSatLight

      what repeat dream? and could you be thinking of her reacting to Ruth and Jason?

  32. Taigan

    Not awkward! Not awkward if we don’t let it be awkward.

  33. Coatl

    That comment woke up Dorothy.

    Many already assumed that Dorothy would reveal something like that, but remember that it is Joyce who has repressed too many things and it is not surprising that she said something about it.

    In the fifth panel, her expression says, “Could it be that she has already seen me before!?” and we’re talking about Joyce…so

    1. Needfuldoer

      Joyce can teleport to Dorothy at any time.

      Any. Time.

  34. Sirksome

    Joyce just wants to see her friend orgasm. That’s kind of sweet in a super perverted way.

  35. Dave Van Domelen

    The porn Polonius. Pornlonius, if you will.

    1. StClair

      well, someone’s gettin’ stabbed. a tapestry may or may not be involved.

      1. David DeLaney

        he ran into my knife TEN. TIMES.

    2. Sajuuk-Khar

      Giggity giggity, I’m a rash intruding fool! Aaaaalllllright!

    3. Fred

      I’m just over here behind the drapes, being to mine own self true.

  36. CrazyJ

    What did Joe say exactly? I don’t remember what Joyce is referencing.

    1. Hazel

      This.

  37. Dday

    Sigh… poor Joe. Or, maybe the opposite…?

    1. Sajuuk-Khar

      If I and several others are right, Joe is about to be rich. In ladies. In a very confusing way for him because how did committed monogamy become his first actual threesome??? And with Dorothy>/i>??? Dan is going to explode???

      1. Sajuuk-Khar

        lol formatting oops

      2. Rose by Any Other Name

        All my kinkiest sex happened after I was in a committed relationship.
        Most of it happened after my partner and I got married.
        So long as both partners agree, committed relationships are often a far better place and time to get weird with stuff.

        1. Sajuuk-Khar

          Oh absolutely, yeah (also congratulations/nice/etc. meant sincerely), I think if that scenario is gonna be successful and not a trash fire a committed relationship is a better idea every time!

          It’s just that poor Joe’s brain is gonna struggle mightily with it, lmao ? But, I mean, he loves and wants to support Joyce, so…

  38. FacelessDeviant

    Uh oh. Inside thoughts becoming outside words!

  39. Icalasari

    Slipshine: Joyce enjoys a peep show

    1. Rose by Any Other Name

      Come on Willis! It’s been too long since I reupped my Slipshine subscription. Give me a reason.
      (Seriously, I’ve been an on-and-off again member for years, and new Willis comic is always the reason I go back).

    2. Dday

      Slipshine: Pay no Attention to the Woman Behind the Curtain

  40. anon

    Joyce has said/done a lot of not very heterosexual things. This may be the least heterosexual of them (so far).

  41. chuckroast

    Dorothy DEFINITELY awakened something in Joyce, it seems.

    1. Coatl

      I think a fetish

  42. Moon

    We’ve seen Joyce be..hmm…voyeuristic before. Thinking back to her decision to seek out the joe ross sex tape.

    Not sure why this is the line in the sand for Dorothy compared to the shit she’s pulled already vis-a-vis the laundry machines.

    1. Bash

      Because they were just sitting on the machines, fully clothed, enjoying the vibrations. Letting Joyce watch her in an intimate moment with her boyfriend would be so much more personal.

      1. Dante

        She did instruct Joyce to read porn while holding hands, though. Def a bit greyer

    2. Mark

      I was going to say: Joyce has seen that Joe x Roz video, what was unclear?

      Wait, no, maybe I don’t want to hear Joyce’s answer.

      1. Rose by Any Other Name

        What was unclear?
        Dorothy wasn’t in it.
        Joyce doesn’t wanna watch Roz. She wants to watch Dorothy.

    3. shrub

      A Joe Ross sex tape…imagine Joyce watching that

    4. Holly

      Because they are drunk and Dorothy, being a little more worldly, probably knows that very drunk ppl cannot give true consent, and Joyce is vulnerable from the spiking incident, and from her innocence (she seems oblivious to the voyeurism AND the queerness of her current line of questioning) I imagine.

  43. FaerwenOfValenwood

    I mean, there is something to be said about learning sex through observation. watching poorly lit, potato quality home videos of regular people goin’ to Poundtown was kinda sorta how my autistic ass learned most of my moves. maybe go watch some (more) amateur pron instead, Joyce!

    1. yak

      same here, I clearly remember finding some videos and being like “ooohhhh so *that’s* what it’s actually like!”

      1. David DeLaney

        as an older-than-most here, NOT SAYING how young I was when first I found my dad’s ad/ordering pamphlets from a company forthrightly named “Swedish Erotica”

        they used 8mm film reels because that’s all there was

    2. Bash

      I think a lot of people learn through porn. Watching your real-life friend is on a different level.

      1. Bruno

        It is not actually good to learn about sex through internet porn.

        1. Woop de doop

          That doesn’t negate what Bash said.

        2. JR

          Some adult industry workers have blogs and podcasts which are fantastic sex ed resources because they are able to explain, from experience, how sex in one’s private life is different from sex on camera. Holly Randall’s podcast has occasional tidbits that make me shout “why did no one mention THAT in middle school?!”

        3. Proxiehunter

          No one mentioned that in middle school because they were too busy telling you that if you even once had sex before marriage you would catch super gonorrheaidsphilis die and go to hell and before you died and went to hell no one would want you because you were like already chewed gum.

        4. Zaxares

          Yep. Porn can help to give you a general breakdown of how the mechanics of it all are supposed to work, but it also teaches a LOT of wrong things, from preparation/foreplay to (the lack of) proper protection to thinking that sex only ever follows particular “styles” (for example, a lot of guys think that going jackhammer is the only way of doing it, when it may not actually be the most comfortable/sensual feel for either men OR women). Then there’s also more subtle effects like distorting your impressions of what your sexual partner is MEANT to look like. There’s nothing WRONG with how porn stars look, but it would be a mistake to assume that your average sex partner will look like THAT.

        5. Rose by Any Other Name

          OP specified amateur porn, which often avoids many of those problems.
          Actual couples turning on a camera and just doing what they normally do is far better about demonstrating actual sexual techniques and expectations than professionally produced porn. More variety too.

        6. Taffy

          Yeah, the variety is the best part. It’s not just 15 minutes of the same close-up angle that looks boring as hell to maintain, and people actually use their damn hips.

        7. Taffy

          So what?

        8. yak

          depends very much on the type. Regular people going at it with their webcam on is very different from professionally produced porn, and IME you can genuinely have a great time if you start off imitating them.

  44. John Campbell

    Yesterday I was going to make a joke about Joyce asking Dorothy to hold her hand while Joe took her virginity, but ended up not posting it.

    I’m no longer sure it would be a joke.

    1. Sajuuk-Khar

      Joyce: Well of COURSE she’s going to hold my hand when that happens, that’s just normal!

      1. David DeLaney

        Dorothy, eyes like saucers, biting lip

    2. Rowan

      Hmm.. Joyce potential future swinger? Handholding with a friend during sex is very possible in those spheres.

  45. Derek

    Dorothy you don’t get to be weirded out by this, you’re the one that forcibly introduced mutual masturbation into your friend dynamic

    1. eh, whatever

      …That would mean giving each other a handjob; it’s not what happened.

      1. David DeLaney

        yep, it was just simultaneous frottage

        –Dave, of COURSE there’s a technical term for it in English. and of *course* the term is French

    2. Taellosse

      In fairness, Dorothy is entitled to be weirded out by whatever she likes.

      And, by extension, we are all entitled to find her arbitrary lines of distinction ridiculous and hilarious.

  46. staszu13

    Ew, Joyce

    1. Coatl

      On the one hand, it’s not surprising coming from her, I mean, so much repression built up and now released with alcohol, but yes… that woke up Dorothy.

  47. staszu13

    Dorothy’s turn for the Joyce Face, panel 5

  48. Lightweight Baybee

    every dorm room got the joyce chair

    1. Sajuuk-Khar

      ?SHUT THE COMMENTS SECTION DOWN, WE HAVE A WINNER?

    2. DashWallkick

      A+

    3. David DeLaney

      Mary grumbles as she changes the towel on it

  49. JA

    Joyce the voyeur…this was not the twist I was expecting.

  50. Allison Branford

    DEEP SEATED ISSUES, Yay!

  51. CianM1301

    Welp, we’re getting to the stage of inebriation where the quiet part comes out loud. Now’s the time to bail out, Dorothy, and ASAP.

  52. Furie

    Cannot wait to see what dreams this one brings about.

  53. DarkoNeko

    Yes, just maybe.

  54. TheKelliestKelly

    Dorothy acting like she she didn’t recently teach Joyce how to masturbate

    1. HueSatLight

      It’s not just Becky who may have skewed her idea of what platonic lady friendship should be like.

  55. Bogeywoman

    Who had cuckoldry on their Drunk Shenanigans bingo card?

    1. RocketRelm

      I’m not sure all threesomes or voyeurism counts as cucking by default. Now if Joyce moves in to actively swipe into the relationship, then it might start counting.

      1. Bogeywoman

        Ahh, we meet again, my oldest foe… Semantics…

        1. Florence

          Semantics: hey there Bogeywoman!

    2. BohNo

      “hi this my boyfriend, and this is the guy that cuckolds me :)”

      “we’ve been in a tried for months, sam…”

  56. Nicoleandmaggie

    On a smaller note I like how Joyce knows that Jacob would never be up for being watched. Not sure how I feel about her thinking Walky would have no problem with it.

    1. Mturtle7

      I mean…I’m not sure she’s WRONG about Walky, honestly.

      1. Taellosse

        I can see, hypothetically, Walky agreeing to someone watching him have sex (though I struggle to conjure a concrete example – his mask of casual self-confidence does not extend to such things). I’m not so sure he’d agree to the voyeur being Joyce, though. While the reflexive antagonism that defined their early dynamic has softened considerably, Walky and Joyce are still a very long way from close friends at this point, even if they do both idolize Dorothy. It isn’t inconceivable that their relationship could eventually develop to such a point, but it’s nowhere near there now.

  57. Disastroid

    Can’t wait for Joyce to discover she can’t get in the mood without there being a large household appliance involved.

  58. Amós Batista

    **Joyce appears in Joe’s room**
    Joyce: Joe, I’m ready to give my body for your ** starts to taking of her shirt **
    Joe: Oh, wow, babe, sweet lord. I’ll show you something you will never forget.
    Joyce: But I’m very scary, because it’s my first time. So I brought Dorothy to making love with us.
    Joe: wow, yeah, nice, this is going better than expected !
    Joyce: … and also Walky.
    Joe: erh, … okaaay…
    Walky: When Dotty summoned me, I came more fast than Shadow the Hedgehog, although I think “came” is not a good word to use in a orgy.
    Joe: I don’t have to fuck Walky first, right?
    Joyce: Of course not! You will fudge Jacob.
    ** Jacob, enters the room with a towel **: Hey, they called me for something in a room. Hope it is not a sausage party.
    Joe: Hold on. **Makes the T gesture**
    Danny: room for one more?
    ** Joe leaves the room **

    1. Mturtle7

      Alright, that punchline absolutely SENT ME. Well done.

  59. Amelie Wikström

    Panel 5: Dorothy considers getting a phalloplasty just to be able to rail Joyce the way Joyce wants it

    1. Amelie Wikström

      “Maybe just get a strap-on?” Haha, references.

  60. Florence

    Siri, play “in too deep” by sum 41

    1. ValdVin

      When Siri’s done with that, play the appropriate “Something About You” by Level 42.

  61. Matrix

    Bi Joyce Rising

  62. Suet

    Do I blame the video? Of course not, I don’t think Joyce would watch anybody else. The video was viral for a reason, after all.

    So Joyce, instead of covering Walky’s side, just cut the middleman. And yet, do you feel jealous of Dorothy, being massaged inside in a nice way, or jealous of Walky?

  63. Spacie

    Jeezy Joyce if you are curious and want to watch then go to Roz’s only fans.

  64. Happy

    Watching a man and woman fuck but covering up the man to just see the woman in carnal pleasure somehow feels more lesbian than just watching lesbian sex.

    Seriously this is the gayest thing I’ve ever heard. Bravo.

  65. Mark

    Happy to see that Dorothy is not yet sozzled enough to think this is a fantastic idea and start planning it out.

    I mean, no doubt that would be hilarious, but I think there’s a better story here.

  66. TGS

    Not sure exactly what is going through Dorothy’s brain. I dont think Joyce fully understands what she is saying – its more instinct for her than conscious. Dorothy is faster to tap into conscious thought. I think her sudden desire to start sobering up is to protect herself from doing something that she didnt realize could actually happen until now. It was fine to have some cuddling and sorta flirtatious talks with Joyce bc she didnt really expect anything to come of it. It was fantasy, and there is a safety in knowing that. Only now… Dorothy sees the universe where it can happen, and thats a little scary. When you look into the universe, you dont expect the universe to look back.

    1. DJTsurugi

      Willis doing nothing to shoot down my poly ship. ~<3

    2. David DeLaney

      The Abyss: “Yeah, I think something could be arranged”

  67. Daibhid C

    I haven’t yet read previous comments, but I suppose people are reading stuff into a perfectly innocent statement like “I want to watch you having sex, as long as I can pretend the guy isn’t there.”

    1. Sajuuk-Khar

      Which is double innocent because the guy is Walky, and no one (named Joyce) wants to see Walky having sex! That would be so gross!

      Now if it were some other, attractive dude, like Jacob (if he weren’t destined for Sarah), or Simon Peter the Apostle (if he were real), or Joe…

      1. thejeff

        Except no Joe having sex with Dorothy because he’s hers.

    2. HueSatLight

      She was just asking about what it’s like to have a dick inside, there’s a bit of “what am I supposed to do, how am I supposed to act/react” in her question. She’s had a problem of crossing boundaries, she’s been drinking don’t-think-clearly juice, and less than a week ago Dorothy, through her actions, said “this is a normal boundary to cross”.

      I think this is a case of her broadcasting signals a lot stronger than she actually feels them.

      1. thejeff

        Yeah, from her point of view this has all been about “what’s it like to have sex with a dude”, because she’s really thinking about that now for some reason.

        1. David DeLaney

          can’t believe I have not yet played Must’ve Been Drunk by Romanovsky & Phillips on the hacked Muzak

          –Dave, NOT the country song you’re expecting

  68. wakeangel2001

    better set up some boundaries before she’s sitting in a cuck chair…taking notes

  69. furubatsu

    It’s not like I don’t want the Joyce/Dorothy ship to sail, it’s just that there’s been so much build up for Joyce/Joe, and it’s been shown that they’ve both been good for eachother, that if things really progress further tonight it’d be a really dissatisfying way to both break up a really nice ship and start another. Or maybe I’m a prude, this isn’t “good ideas of age” after all, I know what I signed up for.

    1. Woof McGee

      I think the more the comments want Dorothy/Joyce to happen – the less likely it becomes.
      At this point, I think it might happen off-panel and be referred to once in a punchline just to aggravate those folks.

    2. Sterling

      I live for the drama. I want Joyce and Dotty to have an ill advised hookup together and Joe finds out and is heartbroken (especially because fucking EVERYONE expected *him* to be the cheater) but for it to also not lead into a healthy positive relationship for Joyce and Dorothy, and for Becky to *also* find out and be *also* heartbroken. Like, bad decisions made, everyone sad, but hey, Walky was right about Joyce and Dorothy’s homoeroticism 😛

      1. Woof McGee

        Well – anything can happen in DOA

    3. Proxiehunter

      The don’t need to break up, they can just add Dorothy. Joe doesn’t even have to be involved with Dorothy if both or either of them don’t want that. “I’m Joe, this is my girlfriend Joyce and this is her girlfriend Dorothy.” is as valid a form of Polyamory as all three of them being into each other. Joe and Dorothy being friends and both loving Joyce while she loves both of them is good enough.

      1. David DeLaney

        This. Plus which Dorothy gets to SEE all of Joe that way, and think – or say out loud – {sfx=Takei}ooOOHH my!{/sfx}

    4. HueSatLight

      Joyce already had the choice between Dorothy and Joe, when Dorothy took her to masturbate together before Joyce had given Joe an answer. She chose Joe then, I’m not seeing her switch her choice now, without any build up to it. This is her wondering how to do a sex.

      And I do not see Dorothy being polyamorous, with how possessive and jealous she is. Plus Joyce said she wanted to be monogamous to Joe, so I’m not sure “oh hey, you’re in a polycule now” would play as well as it does in people’s shipdreams.

    5. Taellosse

      I wouldn’t worry too much. The Good Ship Joyrothy is still under construction, an d nowhere near ready to set sail. Admittedly, Dotty has just become aware of the vessel’s existence – laying down the keel, so to speak – but, despite the seemingly-brazen declaration implicit in Joyce’s musings here, our triangle-smiled ingenue still hasn’t got the faintest clue that she’s got the hots for Dorothy. This isn’t Joyce hitting on Dorothy, it’s Joyce expressing trust and a complete ignorance of personal boundaries.

      That said, while Joyce won’t be acting on her subconscious infatuation with Dotty anytime soon, this exchange has planted a seed in Dorothy’s lonely heart. And while she’s not drunk enough to act on such thoughts yet, the night is not over…

  70. Jdorr

    Well we are learning more about Joyce’s… interests than we need to

    1. Taellosse

      False! This is vital intelligence and we need to hear more!

  71. BohNo

    As a bisexual on the spectrum who also tries to make light of sex, i am living and dying on this comic…

  72. Kaiyalai

    I love these two!

    Also, next slipshine confirmed?

  73. Pseudowolf

    Honestly? Dorothy needs to find and download the 8 episode series “A Girl’s Guide to 21st Century Sex”. It’d be perfect for Joyce to watch with Dorothy there to answer questions she might have that the series doesn’t address.
    If you’ve never heard of it, look it up. It’s a documentary and despite the name, there is a good bit of info in there for men, too.
    (And if you’ve ever wondered what a penis looks like inside a vagina from INSIDE the vagina, they’ve got you covered. Both during sex and ejaculation)

    NOTE: This is a UK series made in 2006. The main focus is on cis-gender heterosexual sex and health. They do have a segment in one episode about homosexual sex and a segment in another about “transsexuals” but I don’t recall how those were handled. Those aren’t really the focus of the series.

  74. raultsi

    joyce wants a three way with Dorothy and Walkie

    not kink shaming the little minx, you go girl

    1. Sajuuk-Khar

      Joyce explicitly does NOT want a three-way with Walky involved! Walky! Ew! Gross!

      Now a three-way with Dorothy, sure, but hold the Walky

      1. David DeLaney

        Yes, let Dorothy hold the Walky, Joyce’s hands have other Dorothy-involved missions

        –Dave, *Dorothy’s arm and finger: proceeding as before*

  75. Asky

    I mean, I wish Dorothy and Walky were still together because it was one of the few relationships in this smooch ouroboros that was actually a kinda sorta healthy relationship all things considered. Certainly better than Walky and Lucy were… are? Nah, were.

    Now that I think about it, Walky and Sal both have/had the healthiest relationships amongst the entire crew; good for them – after everything they’ve been through in a different universe that doesn’t affect them, they deserve it.

    1. Coatl

      “It’s up to you him”
      With this it is clearly understood that Dorothy still has feelings for him, but after what happened, it seems that she does not want to push things and that is fine.

      In fact, they still manage to interact wonderfully despite everything, but Walky must clarify things properly with Lucy first, that’s why Dorothy said that, but yes, I also wish they would come back, but it’s better to take things slow, but only time will tell. Dreaming is free

  76. zee

    Been a minute since a page made me let out an actual laugh

  77. StClair

    “I You make lots of weird faces.”

  78. Dante

    …….. Last night I was having a migraine of hell and I’m only reading this bext afternoon. I can’t believe it. I’m going to need MORE TIME to process it before the next strip dgddkfv Holy shit, Joyce. Girlie really said the quiet part out loud, innit. Somewhere at the dorms Becky woke up in a cold sweat, and in another room, Ruth is having an unprompted rush of vindicated Told You So.

    Only a matter of time before Joyce realizes her 100% Ideal fantasy (this far) is Joe and Dorothy teaching her, together. Nothing will happen TONIGHT but this alone will seed SO MUCH DRAMA it’s truly the perfect compromise.

    1. FlamestAndLight

      my big hope is that they do just that. Joyce doesn’t wanna choose. Dorothy decides that having girlfriend is worth putting up with Joe (but only just barely) but then Dorothy initiates a hate-fuck with Joe and then it stops being hate and then the three of them live happily ever after. And I think this will happen in the comic (okay i hope) and it will only take 10 more IRL years

      1. David DeLaney

        meanwhile, Carl: … la la laaa… i wonder if Booster might hold my OTHER hand?

        –Dave, *looks down to find she is being comfort-hugged with Booster’s head on her shoulder, fast asleep, mirroring did they only know it J&D in the bar*

        1. David DeLaney

          *Carla. …BAD fingers

        2. Dante

          I did feel #vibes at some point when she was insisting Booster had to help her, tbh. That was inchersting.

      2. Dante

        That would be damn ideal for ME too tbh. No matter how long it takes. I’m a patient person, I’ve been here since the beginning, gdi. Let me dream X’DD

  79. HueSatLight

    alternate title: Tomatoes

  80. CardinalFan

    This one may age me a bit.

    Joyce: In vino veritas.
    Dorothy: Age quod agis

    1. Dante

      Oh god I got that one sdklgjs

      But also I can’t but feel like there’s a pun somewhere in there

      1. CardinalFan

        Well…not really a pun :). Though I did leave out the rest of the conversation since it doesn’t apply to Joyce and Dorothy. Just included the “There is truth in the wine” “Do what you do.”

  81. Nicoleandmaggie

    Maybe someone could introduce Joyce to slipshine?

  82. Kaz

    Cuckholery was not where I was expecting this to go

    1. Kaz

      And that’s not misspelled, she’d be covering up the D 😛

      1. Morleuca

        but wouldn’t that imply a relationship of some sort between Joyce and Walky? In this universe?

    2. The Jighole Man

      this is voyeur, not cuckold.

  83. Rabisch

    Dorothy seems really worried about what Joyce might ask her if this continues. I wonder if her concern is about what she might hear or what she might feel inside herself about more extreme proposals. It’s certainly a situation to handle with care.

  84. Proxiehunter

    Honestly at this point I’m 90% sure the issue with Becky isn’t that Joyce isn’t bi. It’s that at some point in their childhood Becky got slotted into Joyce’s brain as family and while Joyce’s church was practically a cult they weren’t that kind of cult.

    1. Dante

      +1, Joyce declared they were sisters when Jocelyne and her helped Becky retrieve her papers (without knowing Jo was also her sister, I mean). And I’m betting that feeling started way before

    2. FlamestAndLight

      absolutely! and it’s *really* gonna hurt when she has to deal with the fact that it’s not just because she’s a girl

    3. StClair

      the Westermarck Effect is a bongo.

  85. Needfuldoer

    Seems like some time has passed between yesterday’s strip and today’s; their enunciation is clearer.

  86. Maddie B

    That’s pretty gay, Joyce, ngl.

  87. Mark

    Did I miss it, or does no one else read this as: Joyce has the hots for Joe and is seriously considering doing something about it, but feels unprepared and unsure of herself?

    1. thejeff

      Yup. Fits in with the previous question.

      The other thing might be there as well, but it’s not what she’s consciously thinking about.
      Whether she’s actually seriously considering doing it or not is more questionable, but she’s definitely thinking and wondering about it.

    2. HueSatLight

      that’s how I’m reading it, that she’s inadvertently propositioning Dorothy.

  88. Rocketboy1313

    This fits into my experiences that conservative upbringings lead to a lot of kink as an adult. Especially voyeurism.

  89. Pergola

    Where is Malaya when we need her?

  90. Pinkie

    Best case scenario, Dotty teaches Joyce to watch porn online?

  91. Felian

    Wow. i think, before i was sexually active, i’d have been MORE scared of watching others have sex, rather than just having the sex myself 😀

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