lol well other than not being into any sports or traditional ‘cool’ hobbies, i don’t think he’s ever had to worry about his dad thinking he was lame, or telling him he was too old for cartoons/comics/etc
tho other than the initial temptation/curiosity always thought it was odd for pop culture/society/etc for teen drinking to be considered cool. otehr than cheap beer which is terrible anyways and forcing yourself to enjoy the taste, i feel like most ppl would quit after their first hangover unless their reason for drinking/getting drunk outweighs the terribleness of a hangover but who knows, maybe walky getting drunk and ending up with a breakup with lucy would be better in the long run (tho prolly would be best to have a proper conversation and amicably break up but i don’t think it’d work that way)
Do we know enough of Charles to assess what he considers cool, especially in his collegiate age son? He strikes me as the kind who may have outgrown / checked out of the herd coolness scene awhile ago.
I’ve never had a hangover. However, I do get chronic migraines and have back and shoulder issues.
When I’m feeling cruddy I don’t often want to drink but there’s at least one party I went to with some friends that we had to stay over at a hotel for when I was 20. I’d barely eaten the previous day because the ouch was sapping my appetite, drank merrily – and woke up the next morning feeling great because the ouch had receded significantly. It took me a little while to twig why the friends were being so quiet and eating like it was a duty, when I was happily devouring my breakfast and chattering away.
I always make sure I drink water before going to bed (I hate feeling dehydrated) but yeah… I often think I should drink more… It also makes me better at some games (like Perudo and Double) sometimes!
Never understood why people like beer; it is very bitter. When I drink/drank I enjoyed most non-beer alcohols. Sake, rum, and mead are my favorites. Though I also like margaritas and Mike’s.
I couldn’t imagine how people like any alcohol, honestly. It all tastes basically the same: Like the smell of Nail Polish Remover, turned into a flavor. Possibly with some other notes almost completely buried under that bit of vileness.
I wouldn’t call it bitter exactly, so much as just generally vile.
Every time I tell people I don’t drink, I always end up having the same conversation:
Them: why not?
Me: just never developed a taste for it.
Them: you don’t drink it for the taste!
This response has so far failed to get me to drink.
dinajoyce
People always try to convince me I just haven’t found the right mix of things for me yet. I assure them all I am willing to try one sip of anything, but I’m not going to drink a glass of something that’s just yucky. Mike’s Hard Lemonade is tolerable, but regular lemonade is both tastier and cheaper, so I’ve never seen a reason to switch. At some point in my late 20s, people gave up trying. That might also be because I married a pastor in my mid 20s. Now they assume I’m not allowed to drink or something. It’s usually easier not to correct them.
I haven’t had much occasion to try alcohol, but when I do, I always thought, well, juice tastes better than THAT and is cheaper and I don’t have to designate a driver afterwards
these days, diet says I can only have water anyway, so yay for that I suppose
I’m told coffee, which I don’t drink, is also bitter, and most people apparently like that. Fwiw, not all beers are bitter, and many (including most mega brew) is barely bitter.
If you make it correctly coffee shouldnt be bitter.
danimagoo
Well, it can have bitter notes, but the bitterness shouldn’t dominate. Some people do seem to like that, though. I love coffee. But I don’t like it when it’s overly bitter. Starbucks’ coffee, for example, is suuuuuper bitter. Interestingly, a really good and cheap coffee is McDonalds. It has a strong coffee flavor without being bitter. Also, when you see people dumping tons of sugar and cream into their coffee, it’s usually because they’re trying to kill that bitter taste, or they just don’t like coffee but haven’t admitted that to themselves.
eh, whatever
They’re desperate caffeine addicts.
Kimi
If I remember what I was told correctly, McDonald’s bought the coffee recipe from Tim Hortons, giving McD’s the good tasting coffee and leaving Tim’s to switch to a worse recipe. I had several Canadians grumble to me about that even though I don’t drink coffee. Not sure when that happened though.
I really feel like society pushes you to be caffeine addicts as I find it hard to put in all the hours for work and at home without caffeine (biology undergrad was pretty brutal with that too, and combined with dorm living where people didn’t respect quiet hours). I know that when I was working at a greenhouse in my late teens/early 20s (hot, physical work), I would basically crash when I got home. It was hard to even muster the energy to eat and take a shower, and I didn’t have to cook it at that point or have a long drive back from work. Just seems like something is wrong with society if the majority have to be drugged (caffeine) to be competitive.
I guess you havent had a truly good beer? In the US the big beer makers only make beers to get you bu?zed even then hey have low ABVs Budwiser, Coors,Miller Blue Ribon or the worst of the worst Natural Ics are alswill, even the imports like Labbat isn’t great.
lHonestly with the microbrew revolution there are so many beers tailored to specific tastes if you like fruit there are Fruit flavored beers milkshake flavored beers, beers that taste like margaritas. I’d it exists there is a micro brew for that. Also European Beer specfically some Czech and Bavarian beers are works of art.
Point is I like beer sometimes I make my own and go out the way to find the best beer, I like watching g the bubbles I like the fizz the floral, fruity, citrus-like, piney or resinous American-variety hop of IPA, the rich, complex, bready maltiness Czech pilsner, fhe crsip lower bitterness and malt of a golden lager, it’s a social dri k a drink that makes me happy after a long day of work it let’s me rela, I love beer beacuse we wouldn’t have civilization without it.( well really fermented beverages)
Maybe I’ll try a different beer one day. I’m technically not supposed to drink due to my psych meds, but I drink a few times a year. My birthday, Christmas, new years, and Saint Patrick’s Day.
UrsulaDavina
Yeah I don’t drink in excess beacuse of meds and I don’t drink a beer until the end of the day when qnd usually at most a pint which is still not recommended also they type of beer i like costs money so if I’m going to have it better be something Iike.
UrsulaDavina
I was supposed to say when the meds are less effective I know that I really shouldn’t do that.
Liara
A pint is a lot of beer
pig
It’s really not a lot, unless you’re very sensitive to alcohol (which I am, so I get it). A pint is about 1.5 one standard drinks. It’s comparable to a glass and a half of wine or a ~2 oz pour of liquor. For a lot of people, that isn’t even enough alcohol to make them consciously feel any different.
UrsulaDavina
A pint isn’t alot its and also the abv of a beer is far lower then a wine an liquor like even my favorite 2x IPA is like 8.5% compared to a glass of wine at 12.5% or 1.5 oz of whiskey or otber liquor which usually range from 20%-40% sometimes even higher.
Mark
A pint is 16 oz. more than I’ve ever been able to get down.
Kimi
Can’t be worse than my grandma would would drink half a can of beer a day and save the other half in the open can in the fridge for the next day. I find myself that I tend to normally only be able to handle little bits of alcohol before the flavor becomes nothing but bitterness for me. Very few don’t do that, even ones that people say aren’t bitter at all. I think my tastebuds are just weird. My mom had the worse possible experience when she first had alcohol, as it was a daiquiri with an alcohol had from juniper, which she is allergic to. Turned her off alcohol all together.
Mark
There is genetic variation in our taste buds. Some people find that phenylthiocarbamide is intensely bitter, while others can’t taste it at all. Dark green vegetables taste like medicine to some people, and others like them just fine. My wife complains at levels of spice that are “really? there’s pepper in this?” to me.
I have no idea how to make a daiquiri, but I think alcohol flavored with juniper was probably gin.
thejeff
Which shouldn’t be in a daiquiri. Basic daiquiri is just rum, lime juice and sugar water.
There are plenty of variations though, usually adding some kind of fruit flavor, but mixing in some gin isn’t out of the question.
Kimi
It was at someone’s house, not a bar or restaurant, so I can’t say that they were following exact instructions on what goes in what. It could just be that gin was all they had at the time.
eh, whatever
My wife complains at levels of spice that are “really? there’s pepper in this?” to me.
That has nothing to do with taste buds. It’s the pain receptors. They also react to capsaicin and a few other such things, not just to physical injuries.
Maybe try a Belgian White Ale next time you have the inclination. They are generally smooth, rarely bitter at all, and typically have slight citrusy notes.
They’re not even too hard to find, as Blue Moon is owned by Miller/Coors these days, ensuring pretty widespread availability. It’s a pretty reasonable example of the type, too.
My disability has effectively limited my beer intake to less than one per month, but those are pretty much all I drink when I do.
God, I despise the way that IPAs have just completely engulfed the craft beer market in America these days. And the bitterness has become the whole point, too, as they lean into the whole dick-waving machismo angle with names like CROTCHSMASHER SUPER-HOP DEATHZONE and the like
morleuca
I was going to say exactly this. It’s an anti-Renaissance in the industry. There are literally hundreds of styles our there and all anyone wants to make is some sort of pine sap tasting imperial with a choice of hazy, juicy, and dank as adjectives.
jflb96
An IPA is meant to be hoppy, because in the days before refrigeration that was how you got an ale to survive the trip to India.
What it doesn’t have to be is the same three hops every single time. You can branch out, brewers! Try something new! You’re doing micro-brew IPAs for the quick turnaround anyway, why not live a little with the flavours?
Miller Blue Ribbon? I believe you have merged two different beers. Miller makes a bunch of different beers, although Miller Lite is their best seller (and a halfway decent pilsner actually, from what I remember–I quit drinking 17 years ago). Blue Ribbon is made by Pabst. It’s pretty bad.
Beer comes in a whole range of bitterness. Bitter beers (specifically IPAs) have been popular for a little while now for a few reasons. 1) people can like bitter beer, just like they can like coffee, pumpernickel, kale, or bitter melon. It’s a matter of preference. 2) people want to look cool and fit in. 3) the same reason mass produced pilsners are served ice cold: to mask mediocre flavors.
I like bitter beer, but I like variety more.
1. a convenient and acceptable source of alcohol.
2. just like coffee gives a pleasant feeling, over time the bitter taste is associated with a positive feeling
3. a bit of a mix of point 1 and 2, it’s easier to get it when you’re young, so there was time to get used to it, plus you have nice memories with beer
4. Bitter, just like spicy, you can like or dislike it, it’s a matter of experimenting with its level
Some people are super tasters and react strongly to bitterness and some are non-tasters and don’t taste much of anything, it’s a genetic thing anyway. There are certain beers to this day, particularly a lot of IPA’s that I won’t drink because they are too bitter, but that leaves quite a few beers with better flavors. Generally speaking paler colored alcohols tend to be less bitter (but there are some exceptions here).
When I was young I deployed to Germany in the army and when I came back I realized how mediocre the most popular brands like Budweiser/Coors etc tend to be in comparison to the better beers out there.
I feel like European food/drink quality tends to ruin your opinion on American brands. I still remember the bread that I had in France, and just nothing really compares in the US or Canada, especially not at the price I can afford.
i don’t mind strawberry margs but i’d rather it be made for me than like a flavored bottle from the store, but coffee was also an acquired taste, tho other than liked bottled starbucks i guess i prefer the strwaberry frappes that tastes more like milkshake than a coffee lol
Sometimes I enjoy beer when it’s not bitter and you get sweeter, malty flavours. Guinness when you’re in the right mood can almost he creamy, with no sickliness. Other ones can be almost but not quite fruity.
But usually my preference is fruity. My husband will very occasionally see and pick up a bottle of cherry lambrini for me – alcoholic cherryade!! But some fruit ciders can be a bit too sickly for me to drink much of ??♀️
I like it favored. Like sorrel red stripe is my favorite thing to drink at Christmas. And I like some of the Seagram’s flavors. I kind of like the bitter fermented flavor of alcohol when its mixed with sweet flavor, for the same reason I like dark chocolate and iced coffee and raw sweet bread dough
I still don’t LIKE Charles due to the Sal stuff, but I will admit he is definitely the “cool” parent who acknowledges eighteen-year-olds away from home are both capable of and willing to acquire alcohol.
“I’m not a normal dad, I’m a CoOL dad!” I think he’s trying too hard. He’s going to ask Wally to introduce him to sexy college girls next. Like that dad who moved into the girls dorms and pimped out the roommates.
I think it’s just banter. He’s not offering to give him alcohol, just teasing him over what is already probably a joke.
Ed Callahan
I agree. Unlike Linda, it turns out Charles has a sense of humor. I think part of the reason for all the conflict between Linda and her daughter is Sal doesn’t have a sense of humor either.
it’s good that they don’t have to worry about walky getting involved with drugs (but y’never know with jennifer being in their friend group unless that kinda stuff was hidden/covered up [tho walky was joking about it like day one so i imagine they have a vague idea]) but sometimes it does seem like ppl are uptight about the age, not that i’d trust an 18 with beer , but 21 doesn’t seem that much diff, considering hte drinking age is 18 or even younger in some cases but other than a glass of wine that ‘pairs well’ with like a meal, i don’t think it’d be that fun then again i wasn’t much of a ‘party person’
If we lowered the drinking age in the us and raised the driving g age, it might give younger folk a chance to figure out what the stuff does to them before they get near a vehicle.
Kimi
Or remove the forbidden temptation angle and teach them how to enjoy it safely and responsibly. There is some discussion about what it does to developing brains and when the safe age is for exposure to that (if I remember right, brains keep developing into early 20s). I do believe that it is legal for kids to have alcohol in their own house with the consent of parents, which would be the safest spot to learn limits. That runs into cultural issues in the US though.
Banastitudinal Alum
Going to college in wisconsin, the law is as long as you are with your parents, you can drink/be served legally. So my 18 year old sister came out to the bars with my mom and me when I graduated college. Wisconsin also holds majority of spots on lists of cities with most binge drinking (think my college town was #2 on list I saw).
thejeff
Even if it’s not safe to drink before a certain age, that doesn’t really factor in much if making it illegal doesn’t actually make kids drink less.
If making it illegal increases secret binge drinking, it might actually do more harm than good.
197 thoughts on “Our row”
Ana Chronistic
so cool
bumming sips of beverage, sitting in free student seats, amongst parents and birds, shoes on the wrong feet
UrsulaDavina
Doubt Linda will move for reasons we already know, also what type of beer do they serve at Hoosiers games?
Ryan
Only the best: Rolling Rock AND Keystone.
UrsulaDavina
I did read they had Dragonfly IPA from Upland but I have never had that, and they probably charge to much for a pint
ktbear
Shouldnt that be NAPA?
Freezer
*shuffles nevously* I like Rolling Rock
UrsulaDavina
It’s okay to like Rolling Rock
cbwroses
Particularly while being angry at certain video games of yesteryear.
Mark
So the plumbing is hooked up wrong, and no matter which tap is pulled you get both?
Needfuldoer
Only if you drink Rolling Rock on the Roll ‘n Rocker.
Jacob Crawford
Walky, you have never been in danger of your dad thinking you’re cool
Angel
lol well other than not being into any sports or traditional ‘cool’ hobbies, i don’t think he’s ever had to worry about his dad thinking he was lame, or telling him he was too old for cartoons/comics/etc
tho other than the initial temptation/curiosity always thought it was odd for pop culture/society/etc for teen drinking to be considered cool. otehr than cheap beer which is terrible anyways and forcing yourself to enjoy the taste, i feel like most ppl would quit after their first hangover unless their reason for drinking/getting drunk outweighs the terribleness of a hangover but who knows, maybe walky getting drunk and ending up with a breakup with lucy would be better in the long run (tho prolly would be best to have a proper conversation and amicably break up but i don’t think it’d work that way)
ValdVin
Do we know enough of Charles to assess what he considers cool, especially in his collegiate age son? He strikes me as the kind who may have outgrown / checked out of the herd coolness scene awhile ago.
Miri
I’ve never had a hangover. However, I do get chronic migraines and have back and shoulder issues.
When I’m feeling cruddy I don’t often want to drink but there’s at least one party I went to with some friends that we had to stay over at a hotel for when I was 20. I’d barely eaten the previous day because the ouch was sapping my appetite, drank merrily – and woke up the next morning feeling great because the ouch had receded significantly. It took me a little while to twig why the friends were being so quiet and eating like it was a duty, when I was happily devouring my breakfast and chattering away.
I always make sure I drink water before going to bed (I hate feeling dehydrated) but yeah… I often think I should drink more… It also makes me better at some games (like Perudo and Double) sometimes!
Slartibeast Button, BIA
“i feel like most ppl would quit after their first hangover”
That’s certainly what I did.
Kyrik Michalowski
Never understood why people like beer; it is very bitter. When I drink/drank I enjoyed most non-beer alcohols. Sake, rum, and mead are my favorites. Though I also like margaritas and Mike’s.
Kyrik Michalowski
Maybe someone can explain to me why they enjoy beer. Though I have a hard time explaining why I drink the stuff that I do enjoy.
Azhrei Vep
I couldn’t imagine how people like any alcohol, honestly. It all tastes basically the same: Like the smell of Nail Polish Remover, turned into a flavor. Possibly with some other notes almost completely buried under that bit of vileness.
I wouldn’t call it bitter exactly, so much as just generally vile.
Psi baka onna
Every time I tell people I don’t drink, I always end up having the same conversation:
Them: why not?
Me: just never developed a taste for it.
Them: you don’t drink it for the taste!
This response has so far failed to get me to drink.
dinajoyce
People always try to convince me I just haven’t found the right mix of things for me yet. I assure them all I am willing to try one sip of anything, but I’m not going to drink a glass of something that’s just yucky. Mike’s Hard Lemonade is tolerable, but regular lemonade is both tastier and cheaper, so I’ve never seen a reason to switch. At some point in my late 20s, people gave up trying. That might also be because I married a pastor in my mid 20s. Now they assume I’m not allowed to drink or something. It’s usually easier not to correct them.
Ana Chronistic
I haven’t had much occasion to try alcohol, but when I do, I always thought, well, juice tastes better than THAT and is cheaper and I don’t have to designate a driver afterwards
these days, diet says I can only have water anyway, so yay for that I suppose
Otl1973
I’m told coffee, which I don’t drink, is also bitter, and most people apparently like that. Fwiw, not all beers are bitter, and many (including most mega brew) is barely bitter.
ktbear
If you make it correctly coffee shouldnt be bitter.
danimagoo
Well, it can have bitter notes, but the bitterness shouldn’t dominate. Some people do seem to like that, though. I love coffee. But I don’t like it when it’s overly bitter. Starbucks’ coffee, for example, is suuuuuper bitter. Interestingly, a really good and cheap coffee is McDonalds. It has a strong coffee flavor without being bitter. Also, when you see people dumping tons of sugar and cream into their coffee, it’s usually because they’re trying to kill that bitter taste, or they just don’t like coffee but haven’t admitted that to themselves.
eh, whatever
They’re desperate caffeine addicts.
Kimi
If I remember what I was told correctly, McDonald’s bought the coffee recipe from Tim Hortons, giving McD’s the good tasting coffee and leaving Tim’s to switch to a worse recipe. I had several Canadians grumble to me about that even though I don’t drink coffee. Not sure when that happened though.
I really feel like society pushes you to be caffeine addicts as I find it hard to put in all the hours for work and at home without caffeine (biology undergrad was pretty brutal with that too, and combined with dorm living where people didn’t respect quiet hours). I know that when I was working at a greenhouse in my late teens/early 20s (hot, physical work), I would basically crash when I got home. It was hard to even muster the energy to eat and take a shower, and I didn’t have to cook it at that point or have a long drive back from work. Just seems like something is wrong with society if the majority have to be drugged (caffeine) to be competitive.
Ryan
Some people like bitter. (see e.g. coffee) College students have a tendency to like cheap and watery. People like what they like.
UrsulaDavina
I guess you havent had a truly good beer? In the US the big beer makers only make beers to get you bu?zed even then hey have low ABVs Budwiser, Coors,Miller Blue Ribon or the worst of the worst Natural Ics are alswill, even the imports like Labbat isn’t great.
lHonestly with the microbrew revolution there are so many beers tailored to specific tastes if you like fruit there are Fruit flavored beers milkshake flavored beers, beers that taste like margaritas. I’d it exists there is a micro brew for that. Also European Beer specfically some Czech and Bavarian beers are works of art.
UrsulaDavina
Point is I like beer sometimes I make my own and go out the way to find the best beer, I like watching g the bubbles I like the fizz the floral, fruity, citrus-like, piney or resinous American-variety hop of IPA, the rich, complex, bready maltiness Czech pilsner, fhe crsip lower bitterness and malt of a golden lager, it’s a social dri k a drink that makes me happy after a long day of work it let’s me rela, I love beer beacuse we wouldn’t have civilization without it.( well really fermented beverages)
Kyrik Michalowski
Maybe I’ll try a different beer one day. I’m technically not supposed to drink due to my psych meds, but I drink a few times a year. My birthday, Christmas, new years, and Saint Patrick’s Day.
UrsulaDavina
Yeah I don’t drink in excess beacuse of meds and I don’t drink a beer until the end of the day when qnd usually at most a pint which is still not recommended also they type of beer i like costs money so if I’m going to have it better be something Iike.
UrsulaDavina
I was supposed to say when the meds are less effective I know that I really shouldn’t do that.
Liara
A pint is a lot of beer
pig
It’s really not a lot, unless you’re very sensitive to alcohol (which I am, so I get it). A pint is about 1.5 one standard drinks. It’s comparable to a glass and a half of wine or a ~2 oz pour of liquor. For a lot of people, that isn’t even enough alcohol to make them consciously feel any different.
UrsulaDavina
A pint isn’t alot its and also the abv of a beer is far lower then a wine an liquor like even my favorite 2x IPA is like 8.5% compared to a glass of wine at 12.5% or 1.5 oz of whiskey or otber liquor which usually range from 20%-40% sometimes even higher.
Mark
A pint is 16 oz. more than I’ve ever been able to get down.
Kimi
Can’t be worse than my grandma would would drink half a can of beer a day and save the other half in the open can in the fridge for the next day. I find myself that I tend to normally only be able to handle little bits of alcohol before the flavor becomes nothing but bitterness for me. Very few don’t do that, even ones that people say aren’t bitter at all. I think my tastebuds are just weird. My mom had the worse possible experience when she first had alcohol, as it was a daiquiri with an alcohol had from juniper, which she is allergic to. Turned her off alcohol all together.
Mark
There is genetic variation in our taste buds. Some people find that phenylthiocarbamide is intensely bitter, while others can’t taste it at all. Dark green vegetables taste like medicine to some people, and others like them just fine. My wife complains at levels of spice that are “really? there’s pepper in this?” to me.
I have no idea how to make a daiquiri, but I think alcohol flavored with juniper was probably gin.
thejeff
Which shouldn’t be in a daiquiri. Basic daiquiri is just rum, lime juice and sugar water.
There are plenty of variations though, usually adding some kind of fruit flavor, but mixing in some gin isn’t out of the question.
Kimi
It was at someone’s house, not a bar or restaurant, so I can’t say that they were following exact instructions on what goes in what. It could just be that gin was all they had at the time.
eh, whatever
That has nothing to do with taste buds. It’s the pain receptors. They also react to capsaicin and a few other such things, not just to physical injuries.
Ray Radlein
Maybe try a Belgian White Ale next time you have the inclination. They are generally smooth, rarely bitter at all, and typically have slight citrusy notes.
They’re not even too hard to find, as Blue Moon is owned by Miller/Coors these days, ensuring pretty widespread availability. It’s a pretty reasonable example of the type, too.
My disability has effectively limited my beer intake to less than one per month, but those are pretty much all I drink when I do.
Swissaboo
The “good” beers right now are even more bitter than the “bad” ones
Ray Radlein
God, I despise the way that IPAs have just completely engulfed the craft beer market in America these days. And the bitterness has become the whole point, too, as they lean into the whole dick-waving machismo angle with names like CROTCHSMASHER SUPER-HOP DEATHZONE and the like
morleuca
I was going to say exactly this. It’s an anti-Renaissance in the industry. There are literally hundreds of styles our there and all anyone wants to make is some sort of pine sap tasting imperial with a choice of hazy, juicy, and dank as adjectives.
jflb96
An IPA is meant to be hoppy, because in the days before refrigeration that was how you got an ale to survive the trip to India.
What it doesn’t have to be is the same three hops every single time. You can branch out, brewers! Try something new! You’re doing micro-brew IPAs for the quick turnaround anyway, why not live a little with the flavours?
danimagoo
Miller Blue Ribbon? I believe you have merged two different beers. Miller makes a bunch of different beers, although Miller Lite is their best seller (and a halfway decent pilsner actually, from what I remember–I quit drinking 17 years ago). Blue Ribbon is made by Pabst. It’s pretty bad.
UrsulaDavina
I forgot to put a comma between the two
HueSatLight
Beer comes in a whole range of bitterness. Bitter beers (specifically IPAs) have been popular for a little while now for a few reasons. 1) people can like bitter beer, just like they can like coffee, pumpernickel, kale, or bitter melon. It’s a matter of preference. 2) people want to look cool and fit in. 3) the same reason mass produced pilsners are served ice cold: to mask mediocre flavors.
I like bitter beer, but I like variety more.
Francoinblanco
1. a convenient and acceptable source of alcohol.
2. just like coffee gives a pleasant feeling, over time the bitter taste is associated with a positive feeling
3. a bit of a mix of point 1 and 2, it’s easier to get it when you’re young, so there was time to get used to it, plus you have nice memories with beer
4. Bitter, just like spicy, you can like or dislike it, it’s a matter of experimenting with its level
CrazyJ
Some people are super tasters and react strongly to bitterness and some are non-tasters and don’t taste much of anything, it’s a genetic thing anyway. There are certain beers to this day, particularly a lot of IPA’s that I won’t drink because they are too bitter, but that leaves quite a few beers with better flavors. Generally speaking paler colored alcohols tend to be less bitter (but there are some exceptions here).
When I was young I deployed to Germany in the army and when I came back I realized how mediocre the most popular brands like Budweiser/Coors etc tend to be in comparison to the better beers out there.
Kimi
I feel like European food/drink quality tends to ruin your opinion on American brands. I still remember the bread that I had in France, and just nothing really compares in the US or Canada, especially not at the price I can afford.
Angel
i don’t mind strawberry margs but i’d rather it be made for me than like a flavored bottle from the store, but coffee was also an acquired taste, tho other than liked bottled starbucks i guess i prefer the strwaberry frappes that tastes more like milkshake than a coffee lol
Amós Batista
…also, I feel like hangover by beer are worse than another drink.
Miri
Sometimes I enjoy beer when it’s not bitter and you get sweeter, malty flavours. Guinness when you’re in the right mood can almost he creamy, with no sickliness. Other ones can be almost but not quite fruity.
But usually my preference is fruity. My husband will very occasionally see and pick up a bottle of cherry lambrini for me – alcoholic cherryade!! But some fruit ciders can be a bit too sickly for me to drink much of ??♀️
Miri
(and fruit-flavoured beers can be not bitter at all and basically beer-based alcopops!)
zee
I like it favored. Like sorrel red stripe is my favorite thing to drink at Christmas. And I like some of the Seagram’s flavors. I kind of like the bitter fermented flavor of alcohol when its mixed with sweet flavor, for the same reason I like dark chocolate and iced coffee and raw sweet bread dough
Regalli
I still don’t LIKE Charles due to the Sal stuff, but I will admit he is definitely the “cool” parent who acknowledges eighteen-year-olds away from home are both capable of and willing to acquire alcohol.
Vanessa
“I’m not a normal dad, I’m a CoOL dad!” I think he’s trying too hard. He’s going to ask Wally to introduce him to sexy college girls next. Like that dad who moved into the girls dorms and pimped out the roommates.
Bash
I think it’s just banter. He’s not offering to give him alcohol, just teasing him over what is already probably a joke.
Ed Callahan
I agree. Unlike Linda, it turns out Charles has a sense of humor. I think part of the reason for all the conflict between Linda and her daughter is Sal doesn’t have a sense of humor either.
Angel
it’s good that they don’t have to worry about walky getting involved with drugs (but y’never know with jennifer being in their friend group unless that kinda stuff was hidden/covered up [tho walky was joking about it like day one so i imagine they have a vague idea]) but sometimes it does seem like ppl are uptight about the age, not that i’d trust an 18 with beer , but 21 doesn’t seem that much diff, considering hte drinking age is 18 or even younger in some cases but other than a glass of wine that ‘pairs well’ with like a meal, i don’t think it’d be that fun then again i wasn’t much of a ‘party person’
Bash
There are some parents who would want to believe that their kids would never try alcohol, drugs, or sex even when they’re old enough to do it legally.
morleuca
If we lowered the drinking age in the us and raised the driving g age, it might give younger folk a chance to figure out what the stuff does to them before they get near a vehicle.
Kimi
Or remove the forbidden temptation angle and teach them how to enjoy it safely and responsibly. There is some discussion about what it does to developing brains and when the safe age is for exposure to that (if I remember right, brains keep developing into early 20s). I do believe that it is legal for kids to have alcohol in their own house with the consent of parents, which would be the safest spot to learn limits. That runs into cultural issues in the US though.
Banastitudinal Alum
Going to college in wisconsin, the law is as long as you are with your parents, you can drink/be served legally. So my 18 year old sister came out to the bars with my mom and me when I graduated college. Wisconsin also holds majority of spots on lists of cities with most binge drinking (think my college town was #2 on list I saw).
thejeff
Even if it’s not safe to drink before a certain age, that doesn’t really factor in much if making it illegal doesn’t actually make kids drink less.
If making it illegal increases secret binge drinking, it might actually do more harm than good.
RassilonTDavros
I sometimes feel like everyone in the world drank underage but me.
Otl1973
When I was in college (a very long time ago) the drinking age was 18, so almost all college students were legal.
Ray Radlein
Same here; and as a result, bars generally accepted college IDs, which made things pretty convenient for me when I went off to university at 16
Kyrik Michalowski
I had a friend who didn’t drink until he was 21; he had the same principle with waiting until marriage before he had sex.
Jo_cubstar