She seems that way to me too. I think whatever her response, it’ll be done with a lot of compassion and care, which is exactly what she needs right now.
It’s also possible for a sympathetic person, who thinks they are acting with compassion and care but has bad preconceptions or training, to do exactly what would be worst. So it’s entirely possible for Chloe to destroy Ruth and Billie in the next few days.
Anorak
in other words, pudding might be female toedad?
JonRich
I definitely wouldn’t describe Toedad as sympathetic.
Anorak
I meant more on the fact that he thought what he was doing was right, and then he screwed everything up
Liliet
I don’t think there’s any grounds for destroying Billie here. The only reason it’s against the rules for Ruth to sleep with her is in case Billie has been coerced into this relationship. She’s the protected party here in any case.
David
Well, to be fair, Billie has been very much coerced into this relationship by Ruth. Including forced kisses and sports watching. She’s in their relation now of her own volition but Ruth totally crossed a number of lines on the way of getting there.
Liliet
More like, Ruth has tried to coerce her into a relationship, but when that failed spectacularly, Billie started an entirely different one voluntarily.
I just kind of feel like picking nits on this one because… because Ruth was being entirely horrible early on, and should have 100% gotten punished for it, but this just feels entirely different. Billie’s with her DESPITE all her crap, not because of it, you know?
Dean
“Ruth, you forced a student under your care to watch a Leafs game? BEGONE FROM THIS PLACE.”
AustSakuraKyzor
“You could have at LEAST made her watch a GOOD team.”
miados
sports games can be good?!?!
Silly Name
Isn’t there a chance Billie’s underage drinking on campus will get out as well, though?
Liliet
They specifically got rid of the alcohol, Carla and Rachel didn’t know (or at least didn’t seem to blow the whistle) about that one, and nobody will believe Mary now.
Unfortunately, you can be sympathetic and still have to kick someone to the curb as part of your job. I don’t think this lady can just ignore all the crap Ruth has gotten herself into here.
doubleW
This, thus the very sad look she has here. Ruth’s gonna find her stuff packed with an ad for a cheap apartment complex tucked in.
Spencer
That seems unlikely since doing so kicks Ruth out of the cast. What’s probably going to happen is that Ruth gets removed from her position and stuck in another room, maybe push her into counseling if that’s a thing they can do.
Unless she and Becky become wacky roommates.
Ferret
How does it kick her out of the cast? Becky doesn’t even go to Indiana but she’s a main character.
Well I think it’s clear she is fired, but I think pudding maybe someone one who is willing to hide why and help her find something else with a caveat: Ruth (and probably Billie) attend AA and see a therapist. Which since I understand and like Ruth I’d really like to see.
AA, as far as I’ve read, tend to actually make things worse for people…
Fridge_Logik
Yeah, AA is a very shame oriented program. It’s all about asking for forgiveness and promising never to drink again and thus living in fear of alcohol. The fears are reinforced by meetings where they talk about alcohol destroyed their lives, they’re basically collectively obsessing over past mistakes which isn’t too healthy. I’ve seen members get absolutely emotionally destroyed at the thought that they might have lost their ten year coin because they took a sip from the wrong cup at a barbecue.
It’s not an organization the promotes a healthy mental state imo.
It’s a deeply flawed organization but it helped my brother get sober after alcohol did destroy his life and also my mother so I can’t really deal with them too harshly. Complete nonfunctionality was their state and violence while they’re happy and productive now.
SLICEY
well there are alternative chooses of course. I just think Ruth needs to be a cut it out entirely kind of person. With professional help of course.
thejeff
Honestly, I suspect Ruth would have an easier time quitting booze than Billie. Her root problem is the depression – she’s self-medicating on booze. Get her help with that and I expect she’d be able to stop drinking. Not too easily, she’s got physical withdrawal symptoms, which isn’t good at all, but I doubt she’d have much long term trouble – if she can deal with her other issues.
Billie’s shown much less signs of realizing the drinking is a problem for her and has made no apparent effort to stop – with the deal she originally made with Ruth or probably now.
hapax
AA absolutely saved the lives of a couple of friends of mine. I understand that it may not be for everyone, but I can’t think of anything else that has worked as well for the people I know (including the two who tried “moderation” courses and are now dead)
FireSTK
Honestly, I was sure AA was for people who had already hit rock bottom.
Disloyal Subject
Billie and Ruth migbt not be at rock bottom yet, but they’re running out of room to fall.
I don’t know the character from any other comics, but her response to hearing Ruth was suicidal was exasperation that an RA had made more work for her. I’m not hopeful.
Lurlock
She sold Walky and Joyce condoms one time. That’s pretty much her sole contribution to the Walkyverse.
[inb4: I was out late hunting a Pokégym that seemed to defy the GPS]
Woobie
i don’t think that’s how you inb4
Ana Chronistic
I got tired of including “ur not 1st comment!” after that
Betty Anne
I don’t think it was exasperation specifically at Ruth, even though she mentioned she thought Ruth was “the one” RA who had her shit together. I read the whole statement as being, “Why can’t I manage to find RAs who have their shit together.” (Chloe, protip: College kids don’t have their shit together, and if they think they do coming in, they find out they don’t by the time they graduate. Good luck.)
Z
This was my thought as well. When she said that, I saw a potential out for Ruth.
IRL, it’s very possible that Ruth would be forced onto medical leave from college entirely. I knew people who had this happen for less. But, plot-wise, I don’t think that’s where this is going.
I also stand by my thought that the RA Manager needs to have better oversight on the RAs. Like you said- they’re college students. They shouldn’t be given that kind of responsibility with just 2 weeks’ training without at least some oversight. Regular check ins. That kind of thing. Like you said- college students don’t have their shit together!
I dont know who that is but i will hope it isn’t an insult. also i just reailzed i was the first post…… how do you like that? i should have waited a little.
I’ve heard of it but not watched it. steven universe sounds like one of those shows i wont love or hate from what little i know. I might end up watching it someday i might not. depends on whats on/what im doing.
Mollyscribbles
Greg Universe is pretty much the most loving and easygoing fictional parent out there, so not an insult.
miados
sometimes people say i seem easy going and i don’t seem to hate anyone. my response of “i’m to lazy to hate people” seems to get a reaction most of the time.
Garrulous
Ya know, given that that describes the way I feel, maybe I should actually quote you at someone sometime. Nah. . . sounds like too much work.
Silence, as Billie lay with hand firmly comforting her beloved and friend she could only imagine a hope for her, that she would again be well. behind the shut lids of her eyes images of “happier” times swam amongst a sea of optimism and misery. A creek, a whisper, the growing light from the crowded hall brought an ache to her chest, she dared a peek. walking in – shadowing the light – Cloe, the R.A. manager with her blond locks and splash of pudding on her head stood there, her form blocking the crowds view of the scene. Billie lays her head back on the pillow, staring into the ocean of ginger.
“Oh, Ruth” Cloe murmurs
Billie’s chest continues to pound, Ruth lays unmoving as she comes to a single thought. It’s over
And sad at the same time. Not sure what will come from this, but it’s not as if she’ll close her eyes and leave. If she’s a nice gal, and I think she is, she can just relocate one or both of them, and not fire Ruth.
310 thoughts on “Over”
miados
maybe its me hoping but i think pudding seems a bit sympathetic.
Cerberus
She seems that way to me too. I think whatever her response, it’ll be done with a lot of compassion and care, which is exactly what she needs right now.
Reltzik
Well it’s not an aha-gotcha-j’accuse moment playing out, so we’re on one of the rightish paths.
Andy
It’s also possible for a sympathetic person, who thinks they are acting with compassion and care but has bad preconceptions or training, to do exactly what would be worst. So it’s entirely possible for Chloe to destroy Ruth and Billie in the next few days.
Anorak
in other words, pudding might be female toedad?
JonRich
I definitely wouldn’t describe Toedad as sympathetic.
Anorak
I meant more on the fact that he thought what he was doing was right, and then he screwed everything up
Liliet
I don’t think there’s any grounds for destroying Billie here. The only reason it’s against the rules for Ruth to sleep with her is in case Billie has been coerced into this relationship. She’s the protected party here in any case.
David
Well, to be fair, Billie has been very much coerced into this relationship by Ruth. Including forced kisses and sports watching. She’s in their relation now of her own volition but Ruth totally crossed a number of lines on the way of getting there.
Liliet
More like, Ruth has tried to coerce her into a relationship, but when that failed spectacularly, Billie started an entirely different one voluntarily.
I just kind of feel like picking nits on this one because… because Ruth was being entirely horrible early on, and should have 100% gotten punished for it, but this just feels entirely different. Billie’s with her DESPITE all her crap, not because of it, you know?
Dean
“Ruth, you forced a student under your care to watch a Leafs game? BEGONE FROM THIS PLACE.”
AustSakuraKyzor
“You could have at LEAST made her watch a GOOD team.”
miados
sports games can be good?!?!
Silly Name
Isn’t there a chance Billie’s underage drinking on campus will get out as well, though?
Liliet
They specifically got rid of the alcohol, Carla and Rachel didn’t know (or at least didn’t seem to blow the whistle) about that one, and nobody will believe Mary now.
Historyman68
Sarah, not Toedad.
nothri
Unfortunately, you can be sympathetic and still have to kick someone to the curb as part of your job. I don’t think this lady can just ignore all the crap Ruth has gotten herself into here.
doubleW
This, thus the very sad look she has here. Ruth’s gonna find her stuff packed with an ad for a cheap apartment complex tucked in.
Spencer
That seems unlikely since doing so kicks Ruth out of the cast. What’s probably going to happen is that Ruth gets removed from her position and stuck in another room, maybe push her into counseling if that’s a thing they can do.
Unless she and Becky become wacky roommates.
Ferret
How does it kick her out of the cast? Becky doesn’t even go to Indiana but she’s a main character.
slicey
Well I think it’s clear she is fired, but I think pudding maybe someone one who is willing to hide why and help her find something else with a caveat: Ruth (and probably Billie) attend AA and see a therapist. Which since I understand and like Ruth I’d really like to see.
Darkoneko
AA, as far as I’ve read, tend to actually make things worse for people…
Fridge_Logik
Yeah, AA is a very shame oriented program. It’s all about asking for forgiveness and promising never to drink again and thus living in fear of alcohol. The fears are reinforced by meetings where they talk about alcohol destroyed their lives, they’re basically collectively obsessing over past mistakes which isn’t too healthy. I’ve seen members get absolutely emotionally destroyed at the thought that they might have lost their ten year coin because they took a sip from the wrong cup at a barbecue.
It’s not an organization the promotes a healthy mental state imo.
Charles Phipps
It’s a deeply flawed organization but it helped my brother get sober after alcohol did destroy his life and also my mother so I can’t really deal with them too harshly. Complete nonfunctionality was their state and violence while they’re happy and productive now.
SLICEY
well there are alternative chooses of course. I just think Ruth needs to be a cut it out entirely kind of person. With professional help of course.
thejeff
Honestly, I suspect Ruth would have an easier time quitting booze than Billie. Her root problem is the depression – she’s self-medicating on booze. Get her help with that and I expect she’d be able to stop drinking. Not too easily, she’s got physical withdrawal symptoms, which isn’t good at all, but I doubt she’d have much long term trouble – if she can deal with her other issues.
Billie’s shown much less signs of realizing the drinking is a problem for her and has made no apparent effort to stop – with the deal she originally made with Ruth or probably now.
hapax
AA absolutely saved the lives of a couple of friends of mine. I understand that it may not be for everyone, but I can’t think of anything else that has worked as well for the people I know (including the two who tried “moderation” courses and are now dead)
FireSTK
Honestly, I was sure AA was for people who had already hit rock bottom.
Disloyal Subject
Billie and Ruth migbt not be at rock bottom yet, but they’re running out of room to fall.
Lovely Monsters
I don’t know the character from any other comics, but her response to hearing Ruth was suicidal was exasperation that an RA had made more work for her. I’m not hopeful.
Lurlock
She sold Walky and Joyce condoms one time. That’s pretty much her sole contribution to the Walkyverse.
Darkoneko
OMG spoil
Lurlock
Really? The next comic was called “Joyce and Walky”. I think the statute of limitations on spoilers is long since passed…
Ana Chronistic
huh, same outfit and everything
[inb4: I was out late hunting a Pokégym that seemed to defy the GPS]
Woobie
i don’t think that’s how you inb4
Ana Chronistic
I got tired of including “ur not 1st comment!” after that
Betty Anne
I don’t think it was exasperation specifically at Ruth, even though she mentioned she thought Ruth was “the one” RA who had her shit together. I read the whole statement as being, “Why can’t I manage to find RAs who have their shit together.” (Chloe, protip: College kids don’t have their shit together, and if they think they do coming in, they find out they don’t by the time they graduate. Good luck.)
Z
This was my thought as well. When she said that, I saw a potential out for Ruth.
IRL, it’s very possible that Ruth would be forced onto medical leave from college entirely. I knew people who had this happen for less. But, plot-wise, I don’t think that’s where this is going.
I also stand by my thought that the RA Manager needs to have better oversight on the RAs. Like you said- they’re college students. They shouldn’t be given that kind of responsibility with just 2 weeks’ training without at least some oversight. Regular check ins. That kind of thing. Like you said- college students don’t have their shit together!
Teddae
Pudding: adding sympathy to your taste buds!
miados
well since i have a super tongue that would be nice.
Uncertainty Moth
I want to see Ethan’s super tongue in actionmiados
well ok i used the wrong term but i meant this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supertaster
MathiasMindblade
In my head, you sounded like Greg Universe, out of the blue.
miados
I dont know who that is but i will hope it isn’t an insult. also i just reailzed i was the first post…… how do you like that? i should have waited a little.
Psyme
Don’t watch Steven Universe? I recommend it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCdLB9bCtvU
miados
I’ve heard of it but not watched it. steven universe sounds like one of those shows i wont love or hate from what little i know. I might end up watching it someday i might not. depends on whats on/what im doing.
Mollyscribbles
Greg Universe is pretty much the most loving and easygoing fictional parent out there, so not an insult.
miados
sometimes people say i seem easy going and i don’t seem to hate anyone. my response of “i’m to lazy to hate people” seems to get a reaction most of the time.
Garrulous
Ya know, given that that describes the way I feel, maybe I should actually quote you at someone sometime. Nah. . . sounds like too much work.
TheAnonymousGuy
Silence, as Billie lay with hand firmly comforting her beloved and friend she could only imagine a hope for her, that she would again be well. behind the shut lids of her eyes images of “happier” times swam amongst a sea of optimism and misery. A creek, a whisper, the growing light from the crowded hall brought an ache to her chest, she dared a peek. walking in – shadowing the light – Cloe, the R.A. manager with her blond locks and splash of pudding on her head stood there, her form blocking the crowds view of the scene. Billie lays her head back on the pillow, staring into the ocean of ginger.
“Oh, Ruth” Cloe murmurs
Billie’s chest continues to pound, Ruth lays unmoving as she comes to a single thought. It’s over
Cerberus
It’s over, isn’t it? Isn’t it over?
BloodLily16
Oh thank goodness, I’m not the only one who thought this. (I literally started humming the song when I saw the title.)
Disloyal Subject
This was a triumph.
I’m making a note here…
(No idea what song you guys meant, but this one feels appropriately melancholy)
DRA2840
And sad at the same time. Not sure what will come from this, but it’s not as if she’ll close her eyes and leave. If she’s a nice gal, and I think she is, she can just relocate one or both of them, and not fire Ruth.
Jason
Dammit, am I the only one who sees ice cream rather than pudding?!
miados
the law of large numbers would say no.
Spaz
I love that we’re calling her pudding now.
Cerberus
It makes the whole comment thread sound like a pack of Harley Quinns.
Bagge
Hmmm. “Pack” is not quite the right word.
Flock? School? Horde? Delight?
A Delight of Harley Quinns.
I’m getting close, I can feel it.
Amazi-Stool
Pride of Harley Quinns?
The Phantom's Belch
A murder of Harley Quinns. That sounds very appropriate.
miados
a battering of harley quinns
StClair
Troupe.
Edhead
Just noticed Ruth is little spoon.
Amber
Same
newllend(henryvolt)
I applaud you for that joke, not for making it but for doing it at the right time.
Carolyn
Sometimes you just need to be the little spoon.
miados
i…….. want to be A spoon at this point in life. I hope i can prove i am worth being a spoon before to long.
Tarpo
I just want someone to be my jetpack
Darkoneko
Better stock on beans then.
Leorale
Billie is kinda trying to shield Ruth from the world. Especially nice with the light from the opening door. I like it.
Riku
Well she was somewhat of a sub in the slipshine comic…
Reltzik
Little spoon is no match for big pudding.
AnvilPro
This can only end well. I see no possible bad endings.