But seriously, especially in his college memories it’s not surprising it’s the tits that stand out. A lot of guys will fixate on breasts whatever they’re attached to. It’s only really a furry thing if that’s the part that works for you.
I’m now thinking of the recent “Cluck Me Harder Family Restaurant” in Something*Positive (Jan 21, 2020), where the owner of the restaurant genuinely didn’t see anything wrong with having a sexy chicken mascot (or even dressing as her) – and the food was actually delicious.
I think it’s great that Mother Bear was trans all the way back then!
Zaxares
Not a furry myself, but I’m told by friends who are into the sub-culture that their defining moment for our generation was “the look” Nala gave Simba in Lion King (the animated one). 😉
And even before that, apparently Disney’s Robin Hood and Maid Marian were another common awakening.
Pylgrim
Don’t forget Lola Bunny and Minerva Mink who were blatant furry bait.
I never became a furry but I would be lying if I said Fifi la Fume from Tiny Toons didn’t give me pause from time to time.
You’ll probably find older furries who got their first faint stirrings from a certain scene in “What’s Opera, Doc?” or possibly “The Big Snooze.”
Rose
Yes, I went to IU and since the beginning Galasso’s has been recognizable as Mother Bear’s hahaha. It’s literally right across the street from campus so it’s a popular place for pizza, and of course everyone thinks the logo is hilarious.
If she’d worn the fursuit even once he’d be down there arguing with the Walkertons that Ross didn’t actually hurt anybody right now, even if he didn’t believe it. And you know what? It would’ve been worth it!
That Hank wanted Carol In a bear suit, – and not in a cat suit (lion, tiger, leopard, cheetah, civet, Manx, lynx, Minx, other, – is telling. I just don’t know what it is telling.
Joyce is terrified of swearing, and her father’s just casually saying tits in front of her. Weird parental hypocrisy or a sign that his worldview has massively shifted?
They’ve already said ‘asshole’ and ‘damn’ in front of each other.
Cattleprod
That was heated, this is a pretty casual situation in comparison.
Nono
Eh, Joyce has been swearing fairly casually since the incident. If Hank hadn’t used any swear words before now it might be more of a shock, but I think this shouldn’t be too bad.
Chris
The shock won’t come from the word per se, but from its implication that her father is a sexual being.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
His long-repressed inner pervert is reemerging.
Leorale
Didn’t Hank and Carol casually reminisce about making out at the fountain or something? Ages and ages ago.
DailyBrad
They also swore casually the conversation where Hank confessed to Joyce he has never liked Ross and tolerated him for Becky’s sake. It was them bonding a little by both cussing in the car together.
Greentree
I feel like saying “tits” in a pretty objectifying way in front of your teenage, but of age, daughter is a bit different than casual swearing. Especially if Dad has always seemed asexual and non-pervy.
Needfuldoer
He also griped about the “goddamn gophers” tearing up his lawn in a bonus comic once.
He has changed a lot since family weekend. Fast enough to be alarming, medically.
Chris Phoenix
Nah. From personal experience, when someone is crazy with fundamentalism and finally realizes they’re crazy and gets tired of it, they can change very quickly. A bunch of things that were unthinkable become normal. A self-supporting edifice of crazy can fall very quickly once the foundation is removed.
Nono
Yeah, it’s like basically cranking it all the way to the other side of the dial. Like people who were very repressed growing up suddenly going very ‘casual sex’ in college.
They usually eventually find some kind of happy medium though after the novelty of it all wears off.
We used to call it: “The minister’s kids go bad in the most entertaining ways.”
Roborat
I remember that in University residence. Every fall the first year girls would realize that they are finally out from under their parents thumbs and go crazy, they usually settled down about the time mid terms started. There seemed to be a direct correlation between religious fundy level and repressed sexuality expression.
Commander Clash
The problem with some fundamentalists is they ignore the mental part.
I seem to remember an earlier conversation between Joyce and her sister (about halloween?) that seemed to imply that the hardcore fundamentalist bent of their parents was a (relatively) recent development and mostly driven by their mother.
While Joyce views her parents as a monolithic entity, I feel like Hank was more going along with the strict religious nonsense out of a desire to keep his marriage together than any real belief in that level of religious fanaticism.
BBCC
I wouldn’t let Hank that far off the hook. He’s the one who enforced strict gender roles at play time and told Joyce not to hang out with Dorothy because she’s an atheist and that Hitler was partly Jewish.
clif
Hitler’s grandfather on his father’s side is unknown, but was very unlikely to have been Jewish. On the other hand there is a fair amount of evidence that Eva Braun did have some jewish ancestry including DNA analysis on what was *probably* some of her hair from a monogramed hairbrush recovered from her apartment by US Intelligence at the end of WWII which shows mitochondrial DNA strongly linked to Ashkenazi Jews.
His worldview has changed, his wife (assuming she donated to Blaine/the church to bail out Ross, which she probably did) inadvertently almost got their daughter killed, and he’s probably staring down a divorce.
Dude’s just in shock and has just dropped all social pretenses while his world is unraveling
I think it’s a lot like Joyce throwing around swears after the first attempted kidnapping – something drastically shook up his world and now the filters are off.
I’m pretty sure a lot of Christians say “tits.” And look at tits. Haven’t there been studies showing the biggest pervs (according to their internet porn searches) in the US live in Utah?
This. I was raised to be a Methodist. Our family had the usual poorly followed moratorium on swear words, so I felt like I had a good handle on what they were. I was fairly shocked in high school to find out that some people considered `tits` to be a swear word.
I think this is where Hank is remembering what it Felt like before he was molded And pressed into a honey-crusted fundie nutbar by Carol and her increasingly severe interpretation of what god wants.
“so i guess soon-to-be-divorced christians get to say “tits”, huh”
From my own experiences with fundamentalist Christian denominations, the overemphasis on masculine social norms tends to mean that Christian males are actually rather open to making crass comments of the sort Hank just engaged in. By my experience, they’re also allowed to openly cuss when it comes to things like sports. The only thing they’re not allowed to do is take the lord’s name in vain, so “goddamn” and the like are generally where the line is drawn.
Not making any real indications towards Hank or the comic, just noting that it didn’t seem at all out of place to me, coming from a Christian with a fundamentalist background. 😛
*Okay, that last line could be misleading, as I phrased it. I meant: The comment didn’t seem out of place coming from Hank. (Rather, the only reason it comes across as notable is because of what we know of Joyce, who is adverse to even the most simple of crude terms. Then again, as I did touch on, there is a gender disparity in such allowances, so who knows whether this is actually new for Hank or not. )
Regalli
There’s a gender disparity with Joyce (and Carol – I expect that she DIDN’T swear much around the kids, if at all,) but also I think Joyce has internalized the fear of damnation and These Are The Rules, Which Must Be Obeyed to a WAY stronger extent. Totally possible to do so even with parents who are in no way enforcing such a strong sense, at least if you’re prone to anxiety.
thejeff
Or who are enforcing it on children, while not on themselves, which isn’t exactly rare.
I followed the link to Mother Bear’s Pizza further up. The tits are definitely of great size, you can also argue that they’re bearded what with all the fur on them. They were not blue, nor crested, and certainly not made of coal.
thejeff
Following that link with the context of this discussion in mind, “Ten Inch Tuesday” really jumped out at me.
Geneseepaws
You did know that the poster was referring to birds, right?
Although Hank may be referring to byrds.
321 thoughts on “Ownership”
Ana Chronistic
“so Hank, what’s your fursona”
“I STAND BY MY ASSERTION”
auroki
Hank, truly a man of culture
Delavan
Hank Ditka, Mike’s lesser-known brother
Roborat
Why does everyone jump to the furry interpretation, might it be more likely that he likes big tits?
thejeff
Mostly I suspect that it’s funnier.
But seriously, especially in his college memories it’s not surprising it’s the tits that stand out. A lot of guys will fixate on breasts whatever they’re attached to. It’s only really a furry thing if that’s the part that works for you.
Stu
I’m now thinking of the recent “Cluck Me Harder Family Restaurant” in Something*Positive (Jan 21, 2020), where the owner of the restaurant genuinely didn’t see anything wrong with having a sexy chicken mascot (or even dressing as her) – and the food was actually delicious.
Librain
Oh yeah! Damn… that was kinda equal parts hilarious and disturbing. At least bear tits was just a sign.
… I mean, unless the restaurants name was, like, some pun on the word “honey”…
BBCC
0.0 I did not expect to hear that.
JetstreamGW
Well. It’s Walky! Hank did refer to the good book, and the really good book.
Wraithy2773
Willing to bet that he’s referring to the type of bird, and this is going to be a fun gag in a bit :D.
TemplarKnight
Nope, other commenters research has yielded a well endowed bear.
https://motherbearspizza.com/
Furries were inevitable.
davidbreslin101
“Ten-Inch Tuesday” at Mother Bear’s Pizza? Wow.
David Doty
I think it’s great that Mother Bear was trans all the way back then!
Zaxares
Not a furry myself, but I’m told by friends who are into the sub-culture that their defining moment for our generation was “the look” Nala gave Simba in Lion King (the animated one). 😉
And even before that, apparently Disney’s Robin Hood and Maid Marian were another common awakening.
Pylgrim
Don’t forget Lola Bunny and Minerva Mink who were blatant furry bait.
I never became a furry but I would be lying if I said Fifi la Fume from Tiny Toons didn’t give me pause from time to time.
DSL
You’ll probably find older furries who got their first faint stirrings from a certain scene in “What’s Opera, Doc?” or possibly “The Big Snooze.”
Rose
Yes, I went to IU and since the beginning Galasso’s has been recognizable as Mother Bear’s hahaha. It’s literally right across the street from campus so it’s a popular place for pizza, and of course everyone thinks the logo is hilarious.
ValdVin
I did not expect Sarah to react more 0.0 than Joyce did.
jeffepp
When you find out you and your future father in law have the same kink…
J
That’s a superweird ship, but I’m 100% okay with it. Also I love Sarah’s reaction.
Doctor_Who
Reasons Hank and Carol’s marriage is falling apart:
1) Her generally inflexible and judgmental nature.
2) Supporting a church that had an armed kidnapper released.
3) Her defense of same, even after said criminal endangered their daughter and her friends lives for the second time.
4) Wouldn’t wear a fursuit, even on Hank’s birthday.
Kyrik Michalowski
Number 4 is the real reason they’re going to have a divorce. 1, 2 and 3 are just the excuses needed.
Sirksome
If she’d worn the fursuit even once he’d be down there arguing with the Walkertons that Ross didn’t actually hurt anybody right now, even if he didn’t believe it. And you know what? It would’ve been worth it!
RowenMorland
Noah’s Ark was not realised in their marital bed.
Geneseepaws
That Hank wanted Carol In a bear suit, – and not in a cat suit (lion, tiger, leopard, cheetah, civet, Manx, lynx, Minx, other, – is telling. I just don’t know what it is telling.
butts
so i guess soon-to-be-divorced christians get to say “tits”, huh
Cattleprod
Joyce is terrified of swearing, and her father’s just casually saying tits in front of her. Weird parental hypocrisy or a sign that his worldview has massively shifted?
Nono
They’ve already said ‘asshole’ and ‘damn’ in front of each other.
Cattleprod
That was heated, this is a pretty casual situation in comparison.
Nono
Eh, Joyce has been swearing fairly casually since the incident. If Hank hadn’t used any swear words before now it might be more of a shock, but I think this shouldn’t be too bad.
Chris
The shock won’t come from the word per se, but from its implication that her father is a sexual being.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
His long-repressed inner pervert is reemerging.
Leorale
Didn’t Hank and Carol casually reminisce about making out at the fountain or something? Ages and ages ago.
DailyBrad
They also swore casually the conversation where Hank confessed to Joyce he has never liked Ross and tolerated him for Becky’s sake. It was them bonding a little by both cussing in the car together.
Greentree
I feel like saying “tits” in a pretty objectifying way in front of your teenage, but of age, daughter is a bit different than casual swearing. Especially if Dad has always seemed asexual and non-pervy.
Needfuldoer
He also griped about the “goddamn gophers” tearing up his lawn in a bonus comic once.
butts
Tbh it seems pretty compatible with standard parental hypocrisy to me
Agemegos
He has changed a lot since family weekend. Fast enough to be alarming, medically.
Chris Phoenix
Nah. From personal experience, when someone is crazy with fundamentalism and finally realizes they’re crazy and gets tired of it, they can change very quickly. A bunch of things that were unthinkable become normal. A self-supporting edifice of crazy can fall very quickly once the foundation is removed.
Nono
Yeah, it’s like basically cranking it all the way to the other side of the dial. Like people who were very repressed growing up suddenly going very ‘casual sex’ in college.
They usually eventually find some kind of happy medium though after the novelty of it all wears off.
DSL
We used to call it: “The minister’s kids go bad in the most entertaining ways.”
Roborat
I remember that in University residence. Every fall the first year girls would realize that they are finally out from under their parents thumbs and go crazy, they usually settled down about the time mid terms started. There seemed to be a direct correlation between religious fundy level and repressed sexuality expression.
Commander Clash
The problem with some fundamentalists is they ignore the mental part.
Concolor44
Can confirm.
ANeM
I seem to remember an earlier conversation between Joyce and her sister (about halloween?) that seemed to imply that the hardcore fundamentalist bent of their parents was a (relatively) recent development and mostly driven by their mother.
While Joyce views her parents as a monolithic entity, I feel like Hank was more going along with the strict religious nonsense out of a desire to keep his marriage together than any real belief in that level of religious fanaticism.
BBCC
I wouldn’t let Hank that far off the hook. He’s the one who enforced strict gender roles at play time and told Joyce not to hang out with Dorothy because she’s an atheist and that Hitler was partly Jewish.
clif
Hitler’s grandfather on his father’s side is unknown, but was very unlikely to have been Jewish. On the other hand there is a fair amount of evidence that Eva Braun did have some jewish ancestry including DNA analysis on what was *probably* some of her hair from a monogramed hairbrush recovered from her apartment by US Intelligence at the end of WWII which shows mitochondrial DNA strongly linked to Ashkenazi Jews.
june gloom
Took me a bit to dig this up but here’s said conversation https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/03-sometimes-the-sky-was-so-far-away/cablenews/
JetstreamGW
I think it’s more that he wouldn’t talk the way he wanted to in front of his wife.
Droewyn
The first thing my dad did when my mom left was go skydiving, because he’d always wanted to and she’d never let him.
This has the same energy to me.
Proto
His worldview has changed, his wife (assuming she donated to Blaine/the church to bail out Ross, which she probably did) inadvertently almost got their daughter killed, and he’s probably staring down a divorce.
Dude’s just in shock and has just dropped all social pretenses while his world is unraveling
deathjavu
I think it’s a lot like Joyce throwing around swears after the first attempted kidnapping – something drastically shook up his world and now the filters are off.
NotPiffany
I’m pretty sure a lot of Christians say “tits.” And look at tits. Haven’t there been studies showing the biggest pervs (according to their internet porn searches) in the US live in Utah?
Some Ed
This. I was raised to be a Methodist. Our family had the usual poorly followed moratorium on swear words, so I felt like I had a good handle on what they were. I was fairly shocked in high school to find out that some people considered `tits` to be a swear word.
Bunny
I think this is where Hank is remembering what it Felt like before he was molded And pressed into a honey-crusted fundie nutbar by Carol and her increasingly severe interpretation of what god wants.
It feels like Hank is about to reclaim himself.
Needfuldoer
I think bittersweet memories of dates with Carol at Mother Bear’s Pizza are flashing through his mind right now.
JessWitt
Honey-Crusted Fundie Nutbars! Now more holier than thou!
Roborat
I was thinking it was Hank starting to treat his daughter like an adult.
HeySo
“so i guess soon-to-be-divorced christians get to say “tits”, huh”
From my own experiences with fundamentalist Christian denominations, the overemphasis on masculine social norms tends to mean that Christian males are actually rather open to making crass comments of the sort Hank just engaged in. By my experience, they’re also allowed to openly cuss when it comes to things like sports. The only thing they’re not allowed to do is take the lord’s name in vain, so “goddamn” and the like are generally where the line is drawn.
Not making any real indications towards Hank or the comic, just noting that it didn’t seem at all out of place to me, coming from a Christian with a fundamentalist background. 😛
HeySo
*Okay, that last line could be misleading, as I phrased it. I meant: The comment didn’t seem out of place coming from Hank. (Rather, the only reason it comes across as notable is because of what we know of Joyce, who is adverse to even the most simple of crude terms. Then again, as I did touch on, there is a gender disparity in such allowances, so who knows whether this is actually new for Hank or not. )
Regalli
There’s a gender disparity with Joyce (and Carol – I expect that she DIDN’T swear much around the kids, if at all,) but also I think Joyce has internalized the fear of damnation and These Are The Rules, Which Must Be Obeyed to a WAY stronger extent. Totally possible to do so even with parents who are in no way enforcing such a strong sense, at least if you’re prone to anxiety.
thejeff
Or who are enforcing it on children, while not on themselves, which isn’t exactly rare.
HeySo
Ugh, so true.
Nono
Never would have expected Hank’s first wandering eyes to be some bear tiddies, but here you go.
Reltzik
Who says that’s his first wandering eyes?
David
It was a set consisting of great tits, blue tits, bearded tits, crested tits and coal tits.
Sunny
I followed the link to Mother Bear’s Pizza further up. The tits are definitely of great size, you can also argue that they’re bearded what with all the fur on them. They were not blue, nor crested, and certainly not made of coal.
thejeff
Following that link with the context of this discussion in mind, “Ten Inch Tuesday” really jumped out at me.
Geneseepaws
You did know that the poster was referring to birds, right?
Although Hank may be referring to byrds.
Roborat
Did he then graduate to blue footed boobies?
Chris
I think Joyce just learned something about her father.
Laladoria
HANK WHAT??? lmao hank consistently reminds me of my own father and I think if my dad said that I would lose my mind.
clif