I think you may be overestimating the consistency in the quality of college courses.
Not to mention that community/junior college in many states has a minimum requirement of only a master’s degree (not necessarily in the subject area) to teach.
Or that many specialized courses are taught by non-degree holders (of any kind) that merely had the expertise required.
e.g. There is a very popular aerospace mechanics course at our local college taught by a friend of mine in this exact situation. A coworker of his, who he considers to be his equal or superior in the material, took the course. The “student” needed the large number of credits toward his associates. The “instructor” had no qualms about admitted that the coworker “student” literally could have taught the course himself had the “instructor” not had an additional year of seniority with the company. (Never mind that the “student” needed the credits/degree for advancement, more than the short-term financial gain of teaching the course.
Or that apparently many university courses end up essentially taught by masters TAs.
Etc. Etc.
I’d just say there may, indeed, be some exceptions.
Athedia
Not really. I was considering a math major and so had to take a computer science course. The pace was very slow and most of the students had no prior experience. I technically didn’t either but a lot of my friends enjoy programming so I have been exposed. After the first few days I just started writing programs during class, looking up info online when needed. I did decide to become a Computer Science major though because it was so interesting. So I guess there is that.
I’ve known undergraduate TA’s in completely different departments with no experience in a subject to teach a class for a semester. This is standard procedure at major universities, even if the course in question is not BS.
I don’t know, when I had to essentially repeat Psychology in Education due to the second school’s course being named Educational Psychology, the second go-round was dumbed down and a bit redundant. The first course had been dual listed as both undergrad/grad, so…
Wait wait. Not 95%. More like 75%. There -were- a few teachers that actually taught me a lot, unlike the rest of the faculty, who got their degree out of a Cracker Jack box…
I’ve taught math before, including more rigorous versions of classes taught at my university. I’m an undergrad. Exceptions abound. (This has happened for precalculus, calculus, and introductory abstract algebra.)
I was once required to take a computer applications course (read: Microsoft Office), something for which I provide help desk support every day. Fortunately, the asst. prof. and I were friends from a professional organization. The first day he handed me the syllabus and said “Go away! I don’t want you in here every day debating the best way to do things!” The only other time I showed up was for ten minutes about two-thirds of the way through, to hand in my project.
I’m seeing a lot of people who I think are confusing “know enough about this subject” with “could teach this class well”.
Being a GOOD teacher requires a lot more than just being able to get an A+++, like knowing how to break down a textbook, what questions are good to put on tests, etc, and having the fortitude to deal effectively with students who aren’t doing well, or who are resistant to being taught.
It’s hard not to read contempt for the teaching profession into some of what you folks are saying, and a desire to demonstrate your own smarts for the informal but constant Internet IQ measuring contest.
Also, if you think or know you could do a better job than “some” teachers, well, congrats. I’m sure I could perform surgery better than a drunken surgeon who hated his job and barely ever put in any effort too! But that does NOT make me a surgeon.
Zuche
Thank you, Li.
Reepicheep-chan
Yeah, I was about to say. You do not need a doctorate to teach most college courses, but you need a teaching certification or SOME sort of training at the very least. Teaching is hard, regardless of the course material :\
Mercury
To be fair, nobody said anything about teaching well – just teaching. Taken in context of the original post to which these are replies, I’m really not seeing much contempt for the teaching profession, especially since the original post is so explicitly wrong. I don’t know about other fields, but anyone in a technical area knows that there is very little correlation between having a doctorate and having the ability to teach well.
The ability to teach well is an important trait that largely goes unrecognized in society, but I don’t really see much in these replies to indicate they feel otherwise. I feel like it’s better to give people the benefit of the doubt and not make inferences about strangers based on the attitudes of the ignorant majority of society, as it isn’t fair to anyone who falls outside of that majority.
Li
If you don’t see how people saying “I COULD HAVE TAUGHT THAT CLASS, AND I’M JUST AN UNDERGRAD” isn’t showing contempt for the teaching profession, I don’t know how to help you.
I’m also in a technical field. I don’t have a specific teaching certificate, but I have taken tons of classes, and I have years of experience. So, no, certificates aren’t the be-all, end-all. And yes, the original comment made that its explicit criterion. But let’s not pretend that what the certificate represents — training, if not experience, in your field! — isn’t important.
Lu86
@Li – I freely admit I have contempt for the teaching profession, IN MY COUNTRY, based on my own personal experiences. My good teachers have been few, I could count them with two hands, and the majority of those were part timers without formal training in pedagogy.
Before I get a bunch of replies from Amerocentric people talking about how hard it is to teach, I need to stress that we are not talking about the same system.
Li
I find it interesting that you say you’ve had mostly terrible teachers AND that the teaching profession is therefore unworthy of respect AND that teaching is easy. (Which you imply, when you say “Before I get a bunch of replies from Amerocentric people talking about how hard it is to teach…”)
Why do I find it interesting? Because I think those statements are all kind of contradictory. If teaching were easy, wouldn’t you have had mostly good teachers…?
Seriously. “Amerocentric”? Do you think I am under some delusion that our school system in the USA isn’t deeply troubled? Because I’m not. But that the school system is screwed up and teachers get no money and schools get no money and are closing all the time… does NOT mean that teaching ISN’T HARD.
Especially not teaching well, which of course is explicitly what I said, repeatedly. Again, if you can perform surgery better than the bitter drunken surgeon who hates his job, that doesn’t mean surgery is easy or that you are a GOOD surgeon. It just means that particular surgeon was terrible at his job!
Lu86
Amerocentrism doesn’t have anything to do with how well or badly the U.S.A.’s educational system works. It has to do with judging centered from an American point of view, which is exactly what you’re doing when you mention teachers and schools getting no money, or if teaching were easy everyone would teach well. Here education is officially the single largest federal spending contributor and has been so for most of the last decade, and yet schools keep performing worse and worse. We’ve reached the point where new college students can’t spell or perform basic algebra.
I might have had mostly good teachers if the educational workers union here didn’t make it effectively impossible to fire anyone for any reason. We’ve had teachers molesting students that get swapped around like they were catholic priests. We don’t have performance evaluations or standardized testing (until recently) because the teacher’s union blocked every attempt to introduce reforms for two decades. The head of the union was recently arrested for corruption and embezzlement.
You wanna know how you can have sucky teachers even if teaching isn’t that hard? By removing any sort of stimulus to performing well or consequence to doing a shitty job. I had so many teachers that didn’t give a shit it wasn’t even funny anymore. And by not giving a shit I mean drawing stuff on a blackboard then sitting down to read a newspaper or have coffee, or ordering elementary students to make 5 pages of multiplication tables in silence while they slept away a hangover on their desks.
Does this happen in the U.S. too?
Li
I… Specifically said that America’s system is in need of help, NOT that all systems are, so… no. Still not being Amerocentric.
And while I am sorry you’ve had such terrible experiences, I think you are statistically wrong about the proximate cause. Just “holding teachers more responsible” (as we DO do here) and slamming unions will not fix these problems. It’s not a magic bullet.
You still haven’t remotely proven that teaching is easy, either — just that you’ve had shitty teachers, which I’ve already acknowledged several times is a thing that happens, but which does not make being a GOOD teacher easy.
Lu86
You said I implied it was easy, I never said so. I said “We’re not talking about the same system”, which is what I clarified when I talked about lax standards and teachers unions. I don’t see why I have to prove something you attributed to me but I never actually said.
What you don’t get, and what I referred to when I talked about Amerocentrism is that while in the U.S. the teachers unions are usually the underdog, in Mexico they are a power lobby, with hundreds of thousands of members that can freeze a vital sector of the economy because it is a federal level union.
Not all problems with the educational system would be fixed by getting rid of the union, it has effectively blocked reformed and allowed the situation to spiral out of control to where Mexican education is right now. That and the terrible teachers generate contempt for the teaching profession in general where I live (Ask any parent who had to endure a 7 month teacher strike).
It has NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW EASY OR HARD IT IS TO TEACH. And that’s why I do think you’re being Amerocentric. In America it is common to assume respect for a job correlates with how easy or hard it is, not just results. This is not so in countries where certain professions are politicized. Being a soldier for example is very hard, and yet the profession had widespread contempt for decades as result of the 1968 student massacre.
Lu86
I am quite aware that teaching well is more than just reading from a single book, getting your students to successfully parrot it back, then invent a test the day before that to have teaching evidence. I do remember at least that much from my educational psychology and special needs education classes (I’m a general psychology major).
But that’s not what I was talking about. Most teachers I had and where I live follow the proceedure I talked about above. Right down to my BD teachers. I’m doing a masters right now and a few of them still work that way (thankfully less of them).
When I say I have contempt for teachers in my country, I mean exactly that. In my country. Under the circumstances in my country. With the level of commitment and competency teachers have in my country. That doesn’t mean teachers everywhere, or that there aren’t individual teachers that do a great job even here, I mentioned them. If you wanna talk about that some more I’d be happy to give you an email adress.
Li
“In America it is common to assume respect for a job correlates with how easy or hard it is, not just results.”
Okay… but in America there is shit respect for teachers. So I’m not sure what you are trying to say, except that I assume it relates to justifying your lack of respect, so I’ll guess you’re saying, “In America you want to say teachers should get respect because their job is hard, without regard for the shitty results they get, but in my country I can’t respect a profession that has so many terrible teachers in it.”
I still don’t think the previous is a particularly American sentiment, though, because if ANYTHING we tend to award respect based on salary size (assuming especially that a company’s CEO must be more worthy of admiration and respect than the people underneath him, even though a CEO has little impact on a company’s success and often gets away without any consequences when a company fails under his watch).
And we definitely blame teachers not just for occasions of poor performance but for things that could be called the “results” of our educational system but which are demonstrably not their fault.
I still want to also make a biiiiiig distinction between expecting respect for the teaching PROFESSION and expecting respect for individual teachers who suck. I never have and never will ask you to respect someone who is bad at their job. All I keep saying is that the existence of BAD teachers doesn’t make teaching easy.
So I’m still gonna have to reject your “Amerocentric” assertion. Of course I have the most experience with my own country’s educational issues, but from the way you speak you have confused the most progressive minority of American opinions for American attitudes as a whole. I assure you that hatred of teacher unions (which we have all but abolished) and “tenured” professors (those who cannot easily be fired) run both wide and deep in the USA.
You also clearly think I am incapable of imagining a scenario where teachers are not “the underdog”; I’m not. I’ve still never talked about how MANY individual teachers are good or bad or deserving of respect. YOU may not be talking about whether or not teaching is easy, but it has been MY explicit point this entire time, so you can’t argue with me without reasonably expecting the ease to be a topic of conversation 😉
Again, I’m not at all asking you to respect people who have done nothing to deserve it. My only point, ever, was that being a good teacher is not easy, so people with no experience teaching should not be so quick to assert that they could do the job.
And yes, I think this remains as true in a country where (say) most teachers are terrible as in a country where most are good.
I would totally have taken more english in college if Bumblebee, of any color, had been the teacher.
Of course I don’t know how that would have worked since my teacher wouldn’t have been able to speak english.
Beige
now, now – that depends on the continutiy your currently in. his ability would switch between semesters 😉
Well you insert the penis into the vagina. or the butt. or anywhere you feel comfortable really, but talk it out with your partner first. Joyce, I need you to pay more attention.
Of course there has to be a penis involved. How heteronormative of you.
No actual offense taken, but if this were a gender studies class… ho-boy. =P
Yotomoe
Well this is lesson 1. We will move into other things that can be inserted into butts, vaginas and penises in further lessons.
Sterling
>implying any sort of insertion needs to be involved
>implying making heterosexual relations “lesson one” isn’t heteronormative at all
>implying gender studies is anything at all related to sex ed
timemonkey
You realise the joke is if ROZ was teaching the class, right?
Yotomoe
Roz is heterosexual though…I mean, I think she’d be most comfortable talking about this first before going into other, non heteronormative. You’re implying that Roz is more accepting, which she may be, but I have no difinitive proof. Roz is kinda young, she probably does not know much. Also I’m joking and I think the words insert, butts and penis are very funny.
I want to say “no” but with the amount of nonsensical shit that’s happened in Marvel this past decade…
Beige
not as far as I’m aware, but i haven’t read any marvel in a month and, well, this IS marvel – one month without stupidity is a hard task for them ¬,¬
181 thoughts on “Prank-pulled”
Baroncognito
So, Janeane Garofalo is 18 in this universe?
Plasma Mongoose
Works for me. ^_^
Doctor_Who
I’m trying to picture an 18 year old Janeane Garofalo in my head. I imagine she’d look something like Billie.
Plasma Mongoose
I have a hard time thinking of Janeane Garofalo as a former cheerleader.
Charlie Spencer
I’m having a hard time figuring out who Janeane Garofalo is and what’s with the references to her.
Lurlock
She’s an who looks a lot like the unnamed girl next to Roz in Panel 3.
Lurlock
Err, that’s not how you make a link. Oops. Take two:
She’s an actress who looks a lot like the unnamed girl next to Roz in Panel 3.
Charlie Spencer
Ah, cameo appearance. Gracias.
LiveWire
Charlie, Roz is actually a character from Shortpacked!, but yes, she looks a bit like Janeane Garofalo.
LiveWire
Oops. Didn’t read that correctly. No idea who the second woman is, then, and yes, she looks much more like Jeanane Garofalo than Roz…
Lord Melvin the Bold
a former Head cheerleader
Lu86
To be fair, I’ve been in classes I could teach myself. Mostly english.
Ten
Anyone who says this in college that doesn’t already hold a doctorate in the field is wrong. No exceptions.
Mary Lea
I think you may be overestimating the consistency in the quality of college courses.
Not to mention that community/junior college in many states has a minimum requirement of only a master’s degree (not necessarily in the subject area) to teach.
Or that many specialized courses are taught by non-degree holders (of any kind) that merely had the expertise required.
e.g. There is a very popular aerospace mechanics course at our local college taught by a friend of mine in this exact situation. A coworker of his, who he considers to be his equal or superior in the material, took the course. The “student” needed the large number of credits toward his associates. The “instructor” had no qualms about admitted that the coworker “student” literally could have taught the course himself had the “instructor” not had an additional year of seniority with the company. (Never mind that the “student” needed the credits/degree for advancement, more than the short-term financial gain of teaching the course.
Or that apparently many university courses end up essentially taught by masters TAs.
Etc. Etc.
I’d just say there may, indeed, be some exceptions.
Athedia
Not really. I was considering a math major and so had to take a computer science course. The pace was very slow and most of the students had no prior experience. I technically didn’t either but a lot of my friends enjoy programming so I have been exposed. After the first few days I just started writing programs during class, looking up info online when needed. I did decide to become a Computer Science major though because it was so interesting. So I guess there is that.
QD
I’ve known undergraduate TA’s in completely different departments with no experience in a subject to teach a class for a semester. This is standard procedure at major universities, even if the course in question is not BS.
Quinctia
I don’t know, when I had to essentially repeat Psychology in Education due to the second school’s course being named Educational Psychology, the second go-round was dumbed down and a bit redundant. The first course had been dual listed as both undergrad/grad, so…
Lu86
Exception: I’m Mexican, and I’m not talking about literature or linguistics, but second language proficiency.
Totz the Plaid
Not true. I’ve had a few that I _definitely_ could’ve taught myself.
Foxhack
I knew more English than 95% of my teachers in College.
Then again, I’m in Mexico and half-American, while they weren’t, so… 😛
Foxhack
Wait wait. Not 95%. More like 75%. There -were- a few teachers that actually taught me a lot, unlike the rest of the faculty, who got their degree out of a Cracker Jack box…
Alyssa
I’ve taught math before, including more rigorous versions of classes taught at my university. I’m an undergrad. Exceptions abound. (This has happened for precalculus, calculus, and introductory abstract algebra.)
Charlie Spencer
I was once required to take a computer applications course (read: Microsoft Office), something for which I provide help desk support every day. Fortunately, the asst. prof. and I were friends from a professional organization. The first day he handed me the syllabus and said “Go away! I don’t want you in here every day debating the best way to do things!” The only other time I showed up was for ten minutes about two-thirds of the way through, to hand in my project.
Li
I’m seeing a lot of people who I think are confusing “know enough about this subject” with “could teach this class well”.
Being a GOOD teacher requires a lot more than just being able to get an A+++, like knowing how to break down a textbook, what questions are good to put on tests, etc, and having the fortitude to deal effectively with students who aren’t doing well, or who are resistant to being taught.
It’s hard not to read contempt for the teaching profession into some of what you folks are saying, and a desire to demonstrate your own smarts for the informal but constant Internet IQ measuring contest.
Also, if you think or know you could do a better job than “some” teachers, well, congrats. I’m sure I could perform surgery better than a drunken surgeon who hated his job and barely ever put in any effort too! But that does NOT make me a surgeon.
Zuche
Thank you, Li.
Reepicheep-chan
Yeah, I was about to say. You do not need a doctorate to teach most college courses, but you need a teaching certification or SOME sort of training at the very least. Teaching is hard, regardless of the course material :\
Mercury
To be fair, nobody said anything about teaching well – just teaching. Taken in context of the original post to which these are replies, I’m really not seeing much contempt for the teaching profession, especially since the original post is so explicitly wrong. I don’t know about other fields, but anyone in a technical area knows that there is very little correlation between having a doctorate and having the ability to teach well.
The ability to teach well is an important trait that largely goes unrecognized in society, but I don’t really see much in these replies to indicate they feel otherwise. I feel like it’s better to give people the benefit of the doubt and not make inferences about strangers based on the attitudes of the ignorant majority of society, as it isn’t fair to anyone who falls outside of that majority.
Li
If you don’t see how people saying “I COULD HAVE TAUGHT THAT CLASS, AND I’M JUST AN UNDERGRAD” isn’t showing contempt for the teaching profession, I don’t know how to help you.
I’m also in a technical field. I don’t have a specific teaching certificate, but I have taken tons of classes, and I have years of experience. So, no, certificates aren’t the be-all, end-all. And yes, the original comment made that its explicit criterion. But let’s not pretend that what the certificate represents — training, if not experience, in your field! — isn’t important.
Lu86
@Li – I freely admit I have contempt for the teaching profession, IN MY COUNTRY, based on my own personal experiences. My good teachers have been few, I could count them with two hands, and the majority of those were part timers without formal training in pedagogy.
Before I get a bunch of replies from Amerocentric people talking about how hard it is to teach, I need to stress that we are not talking about the same system.
Li
I find it interesting that you say you’ve had mostly terrible teachers AND that the teaching profession is therefore unworthy of respect AND that teaching is easy. (Which you imply, when you say “Before I get a bunch of replies from Amerocentric people talking about how hard it is to teach…”)
Why do I find it interesting? Because I think those statements are all kind of contradictory. If teaching were easy, wouldn’t you have had mostly good teachers…?
Seriously. “Amerocentric”? Do you think I am under some delusion that our school system in the USA isn’t deeply troubled? Because I’m not. But that the school system is screwed up and teachers get no money and schools get no money and are closing all the time… does NOT mean that teaching ISN’T HARD.
Especially not teaching well, which of course is explicitly what I said, repeatedly. Again, if you can perform surgery better than the bitter drunken surgeon who hates his job, that doesn’t mean surgery is easy or that you are a GOOD surgeon. It just means that particular surgeon was terrible at his job!
Lu86
Amerocentrism doesn’t have anything to do with how well or badly the U.S.A.’s educational system works. It has to do with judging centered from an American point of view, which is exactly what you’re doing when you mention teachers and schools getting no money, or if teaching were easy everyone would teach well. Here education is officially the single largest federal spending contributor and has been so for most of the last decade, and yet schools keep performing worse and worse. We’ve reached the point where new college students can’t spell or perform basic algebra.
I might have had mostly good teachers if the educational workers union here didn’t make it effectively impossible to fire anyone for any reason. We’ve had teachers molesting students that get swapped around like they were catholic priests. We don’t have performance evaluations or standardized testing (until recently) because the teacher’s union blocked every attempt to introduce reforms for two decades. The head of the union was recently arrested for corruption and embezzlement.
You wanna know how you can have sucky teachers even if teaching isn’t that hard? By removing any sort of stimulus to performing well or consequence to doing a shitty job. I had so many teachers that didn’t give a shit it wasn’t even funny anymore. And by not giving a shit I mean drawing stuff on a blackboard then sitting down to read a newspaper or have coffee, or ordering elementary students to make 5 pages of multiplication tables in silence while they slept away a hangover on their desks.
Does this happen in the U.S. too?
Li
I… Specifically said that America’s system is in need of help, NOT that all systems are, so… no. Still not being Amerocentric.
And while I am sorry you’ve had such terrible experiences, I think you are statistically wrong about the proximate cause. Just “holding teachers more responsible” (as we DO do here) and slamming unions will not fix these problems. It’s not a magic bullet.
You still haven’t remotely proven that teaching is easy, either — just that you’ve had shitty teachers, which I’ve already acknowledged several times is a thing that happens, but which does not make being a GOOD teacher easy.
Lu86
You said I implied it was easy, I never said so. I said “We’re not talking about the same system”, which is what I clarified when I talked about lax standards and teachers unions. I don’t see why I have to prove something you attributed to me but I never actually said.
What you don’t get, and what I referred to when I talked about Amerocentrism is that while in the U.S. the teachers unions are usually the underdog, in Mexico they are a power lobby, with hundreds of thousands of members that can freeze a vital sector of the economy because it is a federal level union.
Not all problems with the educational system would be fixed by getting rid of the union, it has effectively blocked reformed and allowed the situation to spiral out of control to where Mexican education is right now. That and the terrible teachers generate contempt for the teaching profession in general where I live (Ask any parent who had to endure a 7 month teacher strike).
It has NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW EASY OR HARD IT IS TO TEACH. And that’s why I do think you’re being Amerocentric. In America it is common to assume respect for a job correlates with how easy or hard it is, not just results. This is not so in countries where certain professions are politicized. Being a soldier for example is very hard, and yet the profession had widespread contempt for decades as result of the 1968 student massacre.
Lu86
I am quite aware that teaching well is more than just reading from a single book, getting your students to successfully parrot it back, then invent a test the day before that to have teaching evidence. I do remember at least that much from my educational psychology and special needs education classes (I’m a general psychology major).
But that’s not what I was talking about. Most teachers I had and where I live follow the proceedure I talked about above. Right down to my BD teachers. I’m doing a masters right now and a few of them still work that way (thankfully less of them).
When I say I have contempt for teachers in my country, I mean exactly that. In my country. Under the circumstances in my country. With the level of commitment and competency teachers have in my country. That doesn’t mean teachers everywhere, or that there aren’t individual teachers that do a great job even here, I mentioned them. If you wanna talk about that some more I’d be happy to give you an email adress.
Li
“In America it is common to assume respect for a job correlates with how easy or hard it is, not just results.”
Okay… but in America there is shit respect for teachers. So I’m not sure what you are trying to say, except that I assume it relates to justifying your lack of respect, so I’ll guess you’re saying, “In America you want to say teachers should get respect because their job is hard, without regard for the shitty results they get, but in my country I can’t respect a profession that has so many terrible teachers in it.”
I still don’t think the previous is a particularly American sentiment, though, because if ANYTHING we tend to award respect based on salary size (assuming especially that a company’s CEO must be more worthy of admiration and respect than the people underneath him, even though a CEO has little impact on a company’s success and often gets away without any consequences when a company fails under his watch).
And we definitely blame teachers not just for occasions of poor performance but for things that could be called the “results” of our educational system but which are demonstrably not their fault.
I still want to also make a biiiiiig distinction between expecting respect for the teaching PROFESSION and expecting respect for individual teachers who suck. I never have and never will ask you to respect someone who is bad at their job. All I keep saying is that the existence of BAD teachers doesn’t make teaching easy.
So I’m still gonna have to reject your “Amerocentric” assertion. Of course I have the most experience with my own country’s educational issues, but from the way you speak you have confused the most progressive minority of American opinions for American attitudes as a whole. I assure you that hatred of teacher unions (which we have all but abolished) and “tenured” professors (those who cannot easily be fired) run both wide and deep in the USA.
You also clearly think I am incapable of imagining a scenario where teachers are not “the underdog”; I’m not. I’ve still never talked about how MANY individual teachers are good or bad or deserving of respect. YOU may not be talking about whether or not teaching is easy, but it has been MY explicit point this entire time, so you can’t argue with me without reasonably expecting the ease to be a topic of conversation 😉
Again, I’m not at all asking you to respect people who have done nothing to deserve it. My only point, ever, was that being a good teacher is not easy, so people with no experience teaching should not be so quick to assert that they could do the job.
And yes, I think this remains as true in a country where (say) most teachers are terrible as in a country where most are good.
/shrug
begbert2
I’ve been in classes I could teach as well as the professor. But that says more about them than me.
Black Bumblebee
<–psssst. College English teacher.
Dark_Razor
I would totally have taken more english in college if Bumblebee, of any color, had been the teacher.
Of course I don’t know how that would have worked since my teacher wouldn’t have been able to speak english.
Beige
now, now – that depends on the continutiy your currently in. his ability would switch between semesters 😉
Giant Speck
Oooh, Roz/Leslie drama…
Ragnal
Let me guess; “Well, Roz, if you’re so smart, let’s see YOU give a lecture on gender studies! What could possibly go wrong?!”
Yotomoe
Well you insert the penis into the vagina. or the butt. or anywhere you feel comfortable really, but talk it out with your partner first. Joyce, I need you to pay more attention.
Spiridion
Of course there has to be a penis involved. How heteronormative of you.
No actual offense taken, but if this were a gender studies class… ho-boy. =P
Yotomoe
Well this is lesson 1. We will move into other things that can be inserted into butts, vaginas and penises in further lessons.
Sterling
>implying any sort of insertion needs to be involved
>implying making heterosexual relations “lesson one” isn’t heteronormative at all
>implying gender studies is anything at all related to sex ed
timemonkey
You realise the joke is if ROZ was teaching the class, right?
Yotomoe
Roz is heterosexual though…I mean, I think she’d be most comfortable talking about this first before going into other, non heteronormative. You’re implying that Roz is more accepting, which she may be, but I have no difinitive proof. Roz is kinda young, she probably does not know much. Also I’m joking and I think the words insert, butts and penis are very funny.
Bunivasal
Quick, be needlessly hostile! That’ll teach them!
p
I love you.
Andiemus
If Sterling is any indication it’s about learning to be self-righteous.
Doom Shepherd
>baawing.
Gold
I think you have this place confused for Shit Reddit Says, Sterling.
Go post there.
Yotomoe
c’mon y’all. Don’t gang up on Sterling. He/She had good intentions probably. Go easy on them.
Andy
And the road to hell is paved with what?
Avenger_Reloaded
Congress intending to do something.
Mr. V
10 minutes later the campus is on fire and overrun with wolverines.
Yotomoe
It’s over run with wolverines on fire.
Doctor_Who
Nah, Cyclops is on fire. Wolverines getting free candy from his pockets.
Yotomoe
BUT THEN WHAT ABOUT JEAN!?
bookwormdalek
She’s busy having a telepathy fight with Mike.
Zach
Psychic fight. It must be scary in Mikes head.
andiemus
She’s dead. Again…
Beige
unfair. she’s only died twice 😉
Notebooked
She’s the reason he’s on fire. Phoenix, remember?
DrunkenGator
She’s in a theoretical science class trying to both prove and disprove Schroedinger.
Charlie Spencer
Wouldn’t that be Schroedinger’s Shadowcat?
AsimovSideburns
“As you can see, she is both inside and outside the box at the same time.”
Zach
She’s banging Gambit on the side again. In retrospect, she was a three timing bongo. Get it together lady!
Joh
wait, is that canon?
Totz the Plaid
I want to say “no” but with the amount of nonsensical shit that’s happened in Marvel this past decade…
Beige
not as far as I’m aware, but i haven’t read any marvel in a month and, well, this IS marvel – one month without stupidity is a hard task for them ¬,¬
RobHagen
Suddenly, I feel empty without a Billie/Ruth strip….
timemonkey
I’m sure Joe will be happy to fill the void they left.
RobHagen
Ba-dum-tish!
Josh