I always forget that since Renee’s appearance changed a lot. (Which, I’m glad, since she used to basically just be black Faye, but I think she absorbed Gabby and they melded)
Chronos
… did they get ahold of some Potarra earrings…? I guess Renee is the dominant personality, considering they’re using her name.
Rowen Morland
Does she look that different now, aside from the art changes? She probably does but, would you be willing to link a couple of pages that underline what you mean?
Anything in QC immediately following 1800 just suck. They just. Just suck.
(I was so sad and even a little angry when Marten and Dora broke up, and then Padma came to help Marten along while Dora seemed to be doing pretty well for herself [additional aside: Oh fuck her and Tai are engaaaaaged] and then Marten fucked it all up and it’s rough to read, okay?)
Marisa Mockery
Brun is a treasure and you can’t convince me otherwise. And May is introduced way after 1800 and she is the backbone of this comic. Plus Spookybot. Spookybot is LIFE
Poofdepoof
I think the focus was “immediately after” for Schpoonman
Felix
1812
Seregiel
I have the same problem with how GC started trying to explore character flaws. Highlighting they are there and shifting to the less positive focus of a personality shouldn’t be the same as throwing characters under the bus and removing a lot of life lessons they had already learned from having those flaws so they can be revisited or shown to not be as pure as a minority thought. It was well enough written we knew Marten could be a flop. That being said, I actually liked the Padme arc (not the Dee arc) because he didn’t just accept it and his hard time, he took the Lts. advice and reached out. He was passive with Dora, and aggressive when they broke. He was then passive aggressive and now he’s learning to initiate. Coming to that balance out of a bad spot did feel natural even if other elements in the writing felt more like a “guide to not be a dick” then a daily life comic.
Seregiel
That was supposed to be the joke but I thought with how slight she looked she was more a Faye/Tai hybrid in her original form.
It looks like the only time they’ve been near each other was when Marten invited a bunch of drunk people back from the bar, after Elliot accidentally destroyed Clinton’s hand. Faye and Renee had no interaction while Renee was there, though. The link on my name goes to the list of QC comics that have both Faye and Renee in them.
Roborat
I like that a major conversation thread is about a different comic.
The ‘he smells good’/‘he smells like Dorothy, do all the girls like him because of the Dorothy smell?’ exchange. Alternately, Billie mentioned all the bi vibes she gets off Joyce.
Indeed.
And, as mentioned previously (here and on Its Walky), when I had my wife read the early sections of DoA and then “play Joyce, but mind-wiped and with super powers” she went with “bisexual poly-amorous romantic”. So yeah, Joyce exudes bi-vibes to a great extent – even long before many of these characters started pointing it out. ^^
Mouse
In support of the ace contingent, I’d like to point out that liking and even crushing isn’t the same as thinking of someone sexually.
Ike
No, but having sex dreams about your hunky boyfriend is.
Joyce thought that almost everything Lucy found attractive about Walky were really things about Dorothy. His nice sense of dress, personal hygiene (smell at the time), etc.
If assuming Joyce is bi/ defining her by her bi-ness is Lucy’s worst crime, then she’s still not even in the top TEN most problematic characters. Probably not even top twenty.
I swear the next Slipshine comic is just going to be “Lucy Fantasizes About a Polite Date with Walky Where She Maybe Also Meets Starfire”. She’s just so damn wholesome.
Panel 4 Walky was me reading this. Perceptive one, that Lucy.
I really like that Lucy did cop to it being her way of trying to spend some time with him, that was pretty forthright of her, and I do like that Walky didn’t shit on that or anything, and did give her fair warning. This ought to be interesting.
I guess that between Joyce thinking Lucy was making fun of her by being herself, she figured out they must have a lot in common, and Joyce defining Walky’s attractiveness by her associating him with Dorothy gave the impression that she was into Dorothy, which, is a pretty common take.
Lucy can only really operate on the information she’s been presented with so far, which ended up being a sorta crash course of Joyce, incidentally.
Yeah, even in universe it’s not uncommon to see people think
1) Joyce and Lucy are weird mirrors of each other and
2) Joyce’s sense of typical female friendship behaviors have been skewed by not realizing Becky was gay and crushing. (Also she occasionally has a ‘I’m a friend of Dorothy!’ line or uses a verse from Ruth read at lesbian weddings for lunch notes moment.) If you don’t know about the Becky thing it’s easy to get a false positive bi read off her.
Jon S.
Are we sure it’s a *false* positive…?
Khyrin
I don’t know what the polite, one word term is, but if Joyce is Bi, she hasn’t admitted it to herself, yet.
StClair
I believe that term is “closeted”.
Reltzik
“Closeted” is when you know but don’t tell anyone, or only tell a limited set of people who will keep the secret.
“Egg” was the term that Cerb always uses for this sort of thing. … unless that’s only for trans people who haven’t realized it?
Oh, wait, DENIAL. That’s a word.
But seriously, if Joyce were going to be gay for anyone it would have been Becky. And she just isn’t.
neptune432
Are we SURE Becky is Joyce’s type though? She seems to be more into structured people.
Zee
Also the fact that Joyce attributed walkys attractiveness to the “Dorothy Smell”
162 thoughts on “Proselytize”
Ana Chronistic
that would be like Faye meeting Renee!
Well_Played
They did meet when Angus introduced them
Chronos
Ah, there we go.
DailyBrad
I always forget that since Renee’s appearance changed a lot. (Which, I’m glad, since she used to basically just be black Faye, but I think she absorbed Gabby and they melded)
Chronos
… did they get ahold of some Potarra earrings…? I guess Renee is the dominant personality, considering they’re using her name.
Rowen Morland
Does she look that different now, aside from the art changes? She probably does but, would you be willing to link a couple of pages that underline what you mean?
Ari
New Renee: https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3858
Renee’s first appearance (I think): https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1845
So yeah, the character design has changed substantially in addition to the art style differences
Schpoonman
Anything in QC immediately following 1800 just suck. They just. Just suck.
(I was so sad and even a little angry when Marten and Dora broke up, and then Padma came to help Marten along while Dora seemed to be doing pretty well for herself [additional aside: Oh fuck her and Tai are engaaaaaged] and then Marten fucked it all up and it’s rough to read, okay?)
Marisa Mockery
Brun is a treasure and you can’t convince me otherwise. And May is introduced way after 1800 and she is the backbone of this comic. Plus Spookybot. Spookybot is LIFE
Poofdepoof
I think the focus was “immediately after” for Schpoonman
Felix
1812
Seregiel
I have the same problem with how GC started trying to explore character flaws. Highlighting they are there and shifting to the less positive focus of a personality shouldn’t be the same as throwing characters under the bus and removing a lot of life lessons they had already learned from having those flaws so they can be revisited or shown to not be as pure as a minority thought. It was well enough written we knew Marten could be a flop. That being said, I actually liked the Padme arc (not the Dee arc) because he didn’t just accept it and his hard time, he took the Lts. advice and reached out. He was passive with Dora, and aggressive when they broke. He was then passive aggressive and now he’s learning to initiate. Coming to that balance out of a bad spot did feel natural even if other elements in the writing felt more like a “guide to not be a dick” then a daily life comic.
Seregiel
That was supposed to be the joke but I thought with how slight she looked she was more a Faye/Tai hybrid in her original form.
Chronos
I thought they *had* met by now…
Have they not?
cesium133
It looks like the only time they’ve been near each other was when Marten invited a bunch of drunk people back from the bar, after Elliot accidentally destroyed Clinton’s hand. Faye and Renee had no interaction while Renee was there, though. The link on my name goes to the list of QC comics that have both Faye and Renee in them.
Roborat
I like that a major conversation thread is about a different comic.
butts
she’s GOD DAMN RIGHT
MaddMaxx
No woman that attached to Sal’s hair or Billie’s boobles can be straight.
I’m living proof.
shadowcell
Dumbing of Age Book 9: SNRK!
Keulen
DoA Book 9: I’ve Had Worse
HeySo
DoA Book 9: Absorb All Reality
Tan
I think you all mean Dumbing of Age Book 9: Kind of a Bisexual Version of Me
MaddMaxx
DoA Book 9: I Didn’t Intend to Proselytize
ValdVin
What vibes would Lucy, specifically, witness from Joyce like that?
Yumi
Lucy’s a shipper, so her “can I read this person as bisexual” sense is strong.
purblebirb
Bisexual vibes obvi
Rachel McCall
Bibes
MatthewTheLucky
Lucy had one conversation with her, in which she talked about how Walky is sexy because he has Dorothy’s smell.
Thores
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/02-but-the-sun-still-shines/offbase/
Regalli
The ‘he smells good’/‘he smells like Dorothy, do all the girls like him because of the Dorothy smell?’ exchange. Alternately, Billie mentioned all the bi vibes she gets off Joyce.
LeslieBean4shizzle
Indeed.
And, as mentioned previously (here and on Its Walky), when I had my wife read the early sections of DoA and then “play Joyce, but mind-wiped and with super powers” she went with “bisexual poly-amorous romantic”. So yeah, Joyce exudes bi-vibes to a great extent – even long before many of these characters started pointing it out. ^^
Mouse
In support of the ace contingent, I’d like to point out that liking and even crushing isn’t the same as thinking of someone sexually.
Ike
No, but having sex dreams about your hunky boyfriend is.
drs
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/02-but-the-sun-still-shines/offbase/
Thanks to /tag/lucy+joyce/
Schpoonman
Joyce thought that almost everything Lucy found attractive about Walky were really things about Dorothy. His nice sense of dress, personal hygiene (smell at the time), etc.
ValdVin
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit remembering important comics!
Regalli
Search function does all the magic.
Cholma
As long as you remembered to keep sniffing glue!
Tualha
LOL. https://archiveofourown.org/works/15230934
ValdVin
Okay, I’ve never been to AO3, but that someone whipped up an SU/Airplane fic has piqued my interest.
Tualha
Hmm, well. +160 hits, +1 kudos. Wonder how many didn’t get the pun and how many got it and didn’t like it? Ah well.
Freezer
If I had to guess, she’s seen Joyce fangirl Sal and no-so-secretly lust after Jacob, and made some guesses.
Aelfwine
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/02-but-the-sun-still-shines/offbase/
She thought girls were attracted to Walky because he smelled like Dorothy.
That sort of thing definitely implied that Joyce was attracted to Dorothy.
Stephen Bierce
Bustin’ makes me feel GOOD!
Delicious Taffy
I ain’t afraid of no sleep. I ain’t afraid of no bed.
Felix
An invisible bed. Freaky Ghost bed. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Woomy
Way to define people by their sexualities, Lucy!
Most problematic character, stg.
Meta
If assuming Joyce is bi/ defining her by her bi-ness is Lucy’s worst crime, then she’s still not even in the top TEN most problematic characters. Probably not even top twenty.
Chronos
I assumed Woomy was being sarcastic, if for no other reason than their last line.
butts
yeah this is so patently a joke comment
Jon Rich
Stg?
Bladeglory
swear to god
Rowen Morland
I don’t know why I was stuck on it being an abbreviation for Stargate.
Felix
SGC for StarGate Command.
Needfuldoer
Some say his comments are hyperbolic, and that he can be disassembled for convenient storage. All we know is he’s called The Stg!
Regalli
I do love Walky’s reaction.
ShinyNeen
That kind of honesty/straightforwardness sure gets some interesting reactions out of people sometimes.
Catman
Oh my goodness Lucy! You are absolutely definitely on my list of characters I refer to as ‘the best’.
Lucy is the best
NerdHerder
I swear the next Slipshine comic is just going to be “Lucy Fantasizes About a Polite Date with Walky Where She Maybe Also Meets Starfire”. She’s just so damn wholesome.
Dr_D
Right now, Lucy’s at the top of the DOA Leader board.
DailyBrad
I liked her, anyhow, but I think I end up liking her more each time she appears.
DailyBrad
Panel 4 Walky was me reading this. Perceptive one, that Lucy.
I really like that Lucy did cop to it being her way of trying to spend some time with him, that was pretty forthright of her, and I do like that Walky didn’t shit on that or anything, and did give her fair warning. This ought to be interesting.
Yumi
I’m really hung up on the phrase “a bisexual version of me.” I can’t decide how I feel about it.
DailyBrad
I guess that between Joyce thinking Lucy was making fun of her by being herself, she figured out they must have a lot in common, and Joyce defining Walky’s attractiveness by her associating him with Dorothy gave the impression that she was into Dorothy, which, is a pretty common take.
Lucy can only really operate on the information she’s been presented with so far, which ended up being a sorta crash course of Joyce, incidentally.
Regalli
Yeah, even in universe it’s not uncommon to see people think
1) Joyce and Lucy are weird mirrors of each other and
2) Joyce’s sense of typical female friendship behaviors have been skewed by not realizing Becky was gay and crushing. (Also she occasionally has a ‘I’m a friend of Dorothy!’ line or uses a verse from Ruth read at lesbian weddings for lunch notes moment.) If you don’t know about the Becky thing it’s easy to get a false positive bi read off her.
Jon S.
Are we sure it’s a *false* positive…?
Khyrin
I don’t know what the polite, one word term is, but if Joyce is Bi, she hasn’t admitted it to herself, yet.
StClair
I believe that term is “closeted”.
Reltzik
“Closeted” is when you know but don’t tell anyone, or only tell a limited set of people who will keep the secret.
“Egg” was the term that Cerb always uses for this sort of thing. … unless that’s only for trans people who haven’t realized it?
Oh, wait, DENIAL. That’s a word.
But seriously, if Joyce were going to be gay for anyone it would have been Becky. And she just isn’t.
neptune432
Are we SURE Becky is Joyce’s type though? She seems to be more into structured people.
Zee
Also the fact that Joyce attributed walkys attractiveness to the “Dorothy Smell”
Chronos