She was even right about Amazi-Girl escalating things. Amazi-girl is even still trying to escalate things right now. Fortunately, Sal isn’t having any of it– Sal de-escalates it and just leaves.
Eric
Sal did not de-escelate anything. She threatened AG (a gen-u-ine Hollywood style I’m so cool death threat) and did everything she could to put AG on the defensive. In reality this ensures AG would double down on her actions.
Amber is not self-aware enough, certainly not in her AG persona, to see Sal’s ham fisted point. And such a statement coming from someone like Sal when there is clearly no love lost between them, is even less likely to be considered for it’s possible validity.
Sal’s inexperienced, actually really quite awful with people, and thinks she’s smarter than she is (damn but do I know that type) so she may not be doing it intentionally. Worse she’s working overtime to look cool – threaten her life, make my arrogant speech, put on my helmet and ride off on my motorcycle with a tight spin and a spray of gravel, I’m so cool. And ironically Sal’s ‘help’ would make things worse, just as she accuses AG of doing, and for the same reasons that her motivations are clouding her judgement.
Ok, I have to defend Amber a bit here. Joyce called her for help in a situation guaranteed to hit her dad-rage buttons. She knew she was out of her depth and I think would have been happy to draw the passing cops’ attention to the car, even knowing that she probably would have been arrested too. When the police were obviously going the wrong way, she thought it was totally up to her to rescue Becky. Yes, she has a superhero hammer and everything looks like a nail, but what exactly was *Sal’s* plan to stop the car? If they had arrived on a speeding bike with no Amazi-Girl involved, basically you still would have had Toe-dad with a gun, police going in the other direction, and no way to get Becky out. I thought no it’s possible for Amber to have serious issues that affect why and how she engages, but still be pretty darn heroic. She did more to help than anyone else, frankly Joyce included.
Dynonychus
Why would she need a plan to stop the car? She has a motorbike and a mobile… she could follow at a distance and keep the cops updated on the kidnapping-in-progress. That’s kinda her point: she has nothing to prove by playing the hero and she was still better equipped to handle the job. Amber had no plan, no backup, no *thought* except her own need to save someone, and very nearly got everyone killed.
Reaver
Sal discouraged Joyce from going to the POLICE after her near rape because she doesn’t believe in Authority one bit…
As long as there is at least two races, there will always be racism.
Agemegos
Maybe, but I’m not resigned to it.
Clif
I don’t even know where you would go to resign.
As long as there are criminals and a police state there will be bigotry against vigilanties.
(and how and why did my spell correction get turned off)
Rutee
@Plasma Mongoose:
It’s pretty lazy to assume failure.
@Clif:
As there should be. Self Help is not to our advantage unless a state is so far-gone that if leaving is an option, you should take it, and ta that point the useful form of SElf Help is straight revolution. As terribly bigoted as police can be, the public will usually be worse, although not necessarily to the same people. As someone with shitty fucking odds with the police for a number of reasons, I’ll take it, over the days the mob got their way. Vigilantes are like dictators – it’s fine when they’re ‘virtuous’, but the second you get a bad one they’re fucking poison (And they’re basically all bad). Except unlike dictators, vigilantes encourage more vigilantes, thus increasing the number of ‘unvirtuous’ candidates you will get.
Well, at least then I’ll stop hearing my friends (and hell, me too) say “why is my kid growing up so fast?! I want him/her to stay little just a bit longer.”
Clif
His comic book time is affecting the earth and before long a week will last two years?
I only get a check once a month, so at least eight years?
Remember, according to the Buffer Watch he’s already writing strips in February of next year. Sending comics back in time to us is okay because comics are data, which makes this merely an Ontological Paradox.
But according to Pratchett’s L-Space Theorum, information has weight (Information = Knowledge. Knowledge = Power. Power = Energy. Energy = Matter. Matter = Mass.), and all mass distorts the spacetime continuum. So even sending data back in time causes certain ripples.
All in all, I think it’s impressive that Willis has been able to consistently hit the right day, let alone hour, considering that his time travel apparatus is made out of Transformers figures and powered by packets of Taco Bell Fire Sauce.
A certain amount of drift was inevitable, especially since his Flux Capacitor is just Generations Drift.
So, of course, I had to look up if there was a BttF Time Machine Transformer. Apparently there isn’t, but there is a Delorean named Swindler (and the TFWiki does not disappoint in having BttF jokes on his page).
Technically, not all matter has mass. Two known particles, photons and gluons, are massless, meaning the equation is dependent on the nature of the information being carried. Now, seeing as ‘knowledge’ is a subjective property, we can assume it is dependent on the presence of consciousness. And if it is ever scientifically proven that consciousness itself is a particle (referred to some as a psion, literally ‘thought particle’) then it is likely that consciousness is massless, else it would have been detected in observer-dependent quantum physics experiments. If, however conscioussness is the fifth fundemental force, making knowledge the force-carrier for consciousness, it is possible that knowledge has mass.
As far as the aforementioned time machine goes, it should be fine as long as he used G1 diecast construction (its a lost art), though i think it would run a bit more efficiently on Volcano sauce.
Clif
While photons and such rif-raf have no rest mass, they do have relativistic mass as evidenced by the fact that gravity bends light.
There is no evidence that consciousness is a particle and a moderate amount of evidence it is a brain state. Information on the other hand seems to be negative entropy which links it pretty solidly to the orginization of mass-energy.
Due to quantum theory then, information and anti-information can sponainouly form and cancel, but in the vacentity of a black hole, if the anti-information goes into the black hole it becomes unavailable to the rest of the universe and we are left with a small excess of information. This explains why the miniture black hole hidden in the center of the earth allows there to be enough information for life to exist on its surface. It also explains why the secret civilizations existing below the earth’s surface are more advnced; they have access to more free information.
zach
According to the last What-If, if th e earth was made of protons and the moon electrons, the question falls apart because the energy needed to hold the electrons that close together would make a black hole, despite the particals haveing practicly no mass.
Force of any kind has mass, apparently.
Yeah, and she doesn’t care. Although to be fair there are times when knowing the “why” of a thing is trumped by the “what are we going to do about it”. Which is not to say origins should always be completely disregarded in the face of pragmatism, it’s just that figuring out how a wildfire got going is generally saved for when all the flames are out and the danger has passed.
“You’re a danger to others.”
“But I do this because–”
“No really, dial it back or I’ll do it for you.”
559 thoughts on “Prove”
EdHead
You have no idea
Ana Chronistic
“You mean parental sexist assholishness? WHOA, it’s like we’re TWINS”
…no wait XD
Marie
‘It’s like we’re triplets!’
Wack'd
Four words…
Clif
Sal isn’t wrong. No that’s three words.
a snow ʍousɐ
*Sal is not wrong.
fify
Clif
Sal is not completely wrong. :-P.
a snow ʍousɐ
Your triplet sister, AmaziGirl
Unless AmaziGirl is Walky, in which case “Your twin brother, David”
Clif
That would explain so much.
Inkblot
Sal’s right, though.
Coco Pommel
Sal is always right in my book. ♥
Idon'tcarenomore
Agree, Sal is right.
Gigafreak
She was even right about Amazi-Girl escalating things. Amazi-girl is even still trying to escalate things right now. Fortunately, Sal isn’t having any of it– Sal de-escalates it and just leaves.
Eric
Sal did not de-escelate anything. She threatened AG (a gen-u-ine Hollywood style I’m so cool death threat) and did everything she could to put AG on the defensive. In reality this ensures AG would double down on her actions.
Amber is not self-aware enough, certainly not in her AG persona, to see Sal’s ham fisted point. And such a statement coming from someone like Sal when there is clearly no love lost between them, is even less likely to be considered for it’s possible validity.
Sal’s inexperienced, actually really quite awful with people, and thinks she’s smarter than she is (damn but do I know that type) so she may not be doing it intentionally. Worse she’s working overtime to look cool – threaten her life, make my arrogant speech, put on my helmet and ride off on my motorcycle with a tight spin and a spray of gravel, I’m so cool. And ironically Sal’s ‘help’ would make things worse, just as she accuses AG of doing, and for the same reasons that her motivations are clouding her judgement.
Strangeshapes
Ok, I have to defend Amber a bit here. Joyce called her for help in a situation guaranteed to hit her dad-rage buttons. She knew she was out of her depth and I think would have been happy to draw the passing cops’ attention to the car, even knowing that she probably would have been arrested too. When the police were obviously going the wrong way, she thought it was totally up to her to rescue Becky. Yes, she has a superhero hammer and everything looks like a nail, but what exactly was *Sal’s* plan to stop the car? If they had arrived on a speeding bike with no Amazi-Girl involved, basically you still would have had Toe-dad with a gun, police going in the other direction, and no way to get Becky out. I thought no it’s possible for Amber to have serious issues that affect why and how she engages, but still be pretty darn heroic. She did more to help than anyone else, frankly Joyce included.
Dynonychus
Why would she need a plan to stop the car? She has a motorbike and a mobile… she could follow at a distance and keep the cops updated on the kidnapping-in-progress. That’s kinda her point: she has nothing to prove by playing the hero and she was still better equipped to handle the job. Amber had no plan, no backup, no *thought* except her own need to save someone, and very nearly got everyone killed.
Reaver
Sal discouraged Joyce from going to the POLICE after her near rape because she doesn’t believe in Authority one bit…
IceMateria
“We’re not so different, you and I…”
Dreadhawk177
Willis, why does your content upload at 12:04?
a4lbi
Keeps us on our toes.
Inkblot
Solely so that we will talk about it, it seems
Ana Chronistic
sorry I broke it by being first too many days in a row, I’ll stop =B
(pfff)
Clif
I can’t figure out if it’s the first line or the second which is the joke. 😉
fallingwaters2
just gonna put this here
Plasma Mongoose
I remember when it used to be 0:01 NY Time but in the last year or so, it became 0:02 then 0:03 and now it’s 0:04.
Vinny
Daylight Losing Time
Plasma Mongoose
Ironically, there seems to be MORE sun than ever over here in Oz.
Shaunock
Sunny days, public health care, sharks.
What is there to complain about, really?
Marie
racismPlasma Mongoose
As long as there is at least two races, there will always be racism.
Agemegos
Maybe, but I’m not resigned to it.
Clif
I don’t even know where you would go to resign.
As long as there are criminals and a police state there will be bigotry against vigilanties.
(and how and why did my spell correction get turned off)
Rutee
@Plasma Mongoose:
It’s pretty lazy to assume failure.
@Clif:
As there should be. Self Help is not to our advantage unless a state is so far-gone that if leaving is an option, you should take it, and ta that point the useful form of SElf Help is straight revolution. As terribly bigoted as police can be, the public will usually be worse, although not necessarily to the same people. As someone with shitty fucking odds with the police for a number of reasons, I’ll take it, over the days the mob got their way. Vigilantes are like dictators – it’s fine when they’re ‘virtuous’, but the second you get a bad one they’re fucking poison (And they’re basically all bad). Except unlike dictators, vigilantes encourage more vigilantes, thus increasing the number of ‘unvirtuous’ candidates you will get.
Plasma Mongoose
What we need is to get people to become too lazy to think in racist terms.
Ryek Hvek
spiders
Disloyal Subject
Drop bears. Spiders. Snakes. Bloodthirsty cassowaries.
Et cetera.
Durandal_1707
I prefer “Daylight Wastings Time.”
lawoot
“Damnyou Willis Time”
The Other Mike
Isn’t that all the time, though?
TheNinthShader
Nah just when the story gets too interesting. ¨You made a car crash!?! Damn you Willis!¨
a snow ʍousɐ
That should be what it’s called when we’re not on DST.
Like now! We’re on Daylight Losing Time until Spring Forward
Clif
The time changes would be less galling if they made them 3-day hollidays.
DarkoNeko
I wouldn’t put it past The Author to purposely randomize the time by a few minutes, just to mess with the firsters XD
Ana Chronistic
but then how would I cockblock them =C
(j/k tbh IDGAF)
Tacos
Cuz the Earth’s rotation is slowing down >.>
David Alexander McDonald
Willis’ rotation is slowing down. It’s age, it is. We all spin more slowly with the passage of years.
Plasma Mongoose
So Willis’ comic book time is affecting our Earth? CRIKEY!
Annie
Crap! Before long a week will last 2 years!
Well, at least then I’ll stop hearing my friends (and hell, me too) say “why is my kid growing up so fast?! I want him/her to stay little just a bit longer.”
Clif
His comic book time is affecting the earth and before long a week will last two years?
I only get a check once a month, so at least eight years?
Damn you Willis!
Toxic
For me, it says that this comic and the first comment on it both happened at 12:01
Clif
Back in the 13th century?
Oh, no. It’s happening already.
Ahhhhhhhh!!!
Doctor_Who
Remember, according to the Buffer Watch he’s already writing strips in February of next year. Sending comics back in time to us is okay because comics are data, which makes this merely an Ontological Paradox.
But according to Pratchett’s L-Space Theorum, information has weight (Information = Knowledge. Knowledge = Power. Power = Energy. Energy = Matter. Matter = Mass.), and all mass distorts the spacetime continuum. So even sending data back in time causes certain ripples.
All in all, I think it’s impressive that Willis has been able to consistently hit the right day, let alone hour, considering that his time travel apparatus is made out of Transformers figures and powered by packets of Taco Bell Fire Sauce.
A certain amount of drift was inevitable, especially since his Flux Capacitor is just Generations Drift.
MatthewTheLucky
I miss when things were just timey-wimey.
merbrat
I <3 this ^
merbrat
(well…now, both Doctor_Who and MtL)
AgentKeen
So, of course, I had to look up if there was a BttF Time Machine Transformer. Apparently there isn’t, but there is a Delorean named Swindler (and the TFWiki does not disappoint in having BttF jokes on his page).
MrZombieScordo
I call it Kyōma’s Nostalgia Drive! Real name TBA.
Ana Chronistic
Future Gadget 204, 2nd Edition Ver. 2.31!
Arkious Vade
Technically, not all matter has mass. Two known particles, photons and gluons, are massless, meaning the equation is dependent on the nature of the information being carried. Now, seeing as ‘knowledge’ is a subjective property, we can assume it is dependent on the presence of consciousness. And if it is ever scientifically proven that consciousness itself is a particle (referred to some as a psion, literally ‘thought particle’) then it is likely that consciousness is massless, else it would have been detected in observer-dependent quantum physics experiments. If, however conscioussness is the fifth fundemental force, making knowledge the force-carrier for consciousness, it is possible that knowledge has mass.
As far as the aforementioned time machine goes, it should be fine as long as he used G1 diecast construction (its a lost art), though i think it would run a bit more efficiently on Volcano sauce.
Clif
While photons and such rif-raf have no rest mass, they do have relativistic mass as evidenced by the fact that gravity bends light.
There is no evidence that consciousness is a particle and a moderate amount of evidence it is a brain state. Information on the other hand seems to be negative entropy which links it pretty solidly to the orginization of mass-energy.
Due to quantum theory then, information and anti-information can sponainouly form and cancel, but in the vacentity of a black hole, if the anti-information goes into the black hole it becomes unavailable to the rest of the universe and we are left with a small excess of information. This explains why the miniture black hole hidden in the center of the earth allows there to be enough information for life to exist on its surface. It also explains why the secret civilizations existing below the earth’s surface are more advnced; they have access to more free information.
zach
According to the last What-If, if th e earth was made of protons and the moon electrons, the question falls apart because the energy needed to hold the electrons that close together would make a black hole, despite the particals haveing practicly no mass.
Force of any kind has mass, apparently.
fallingwaters2
Is it bad that I understood everything you just said there?
Clif
Very bad.
xKiv
You just got it disappeared and then replaced with something even more complex.
fallingwaters2
I also got everything that Clif, Arkious Vade, and zach said, too.
This is very, very bad.
zoelogical
this is brilliant.
Mr.fat
this might be the best comment on this thread
Mindlink
On my screen, it says 12:01, why are we seeing different digits ?
Shawn L.
Because we’re all hitting the server at the stroke of midnight to get the latest strip. Then hit reload when it isn’t there. Repeat.
We’re lucky the server doesn’t shut down, thinking it’s under a DoS attack, and not just delay the strip by 4 minutes.
brumagem
My guess is too many people refreshing the page every ten seconds. Like a mini-DDOS attack.
Inkblot
Slay
otusasio451
Ohhhhh, Sal. You have NO idea.
neeks
Yeah, and she doesn’t care. Although to be fair there are times when knowing the “why” of a thing is trumped by the “what are we going to do about it”. Which is not to say origins should always be completely disregarded in the face of pragmatism, it’s just that figuring out how a wildfire got going is generally saved for when all the flames are out and the danger has passed.
“You’re a danger to others.”
“But I do this because–”
“No really, dial it back or I’ll do it for you.”
^my take on this strip
AgentKeen