idk if she’d ever admit she was ‘slumming’ it other than in her ‘wild teen years’ or whatever, assuming charles makes more money than her if not as much
I think the larger issue is that there are many different ways to succeed.
Lucy pointed out Walky’s recent artistic achievements, and Linda blew them off.
Linda wants him to *succeed* in such a way that basically turns her son into a “Perfect Parent” Trophy. Something to show off how oh so “good” she is. ?
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
Basically she’s Willy Loman, only shorter, female, made more money apparently, with better connections throughout her career as an entrepreneur-for-the-purpose-of-being-a-snob-and-climber of sorts, apparently…Oh, and she was a LOT colder to the ‘Hap’ of the family…
I really, really like this phrasing. “as if the only way to live in life is to succeed.” Because how can someone possibly succeed at life? Why do we have to frame it in the sense of “failure” and “success” at all?
“Walky, you could be dating someone whiter than Lucy, why aren’t you?”
Chris
I’m not thinking it’ll be them walking out. I’m thinking her husband might just be curious exactly _why_ she thinks Walky is “slumming it”
Archieve
I suppose Charles can still surprise, but so far he’s done nothing to make me think anyone but Linda can count on him.
Adept
Sadly I feel Charles embodies internalised racism.
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
Probably got it from his bigshot family….And Linda married him because A)She was an NPD-haver who needed his brand of CPD, and B)That was the only way Linda was going to get her claws into the Walkerton name and the clout that supposedly went with it…..And none of the girls Mom and Pap-pap Walkerton would approve of more would take Charles, so it was Linda or get sassed for staying single…
Tan
At best, Charles might suggest Linda ‘lighten up’, failing to confront her on her underlying premise in favor of surface-level ‘getting along’, unless Charles has become a radically different character from his previous appearances.
Jerach
That would be an especially unfortunate phrasing, which makes it all the more likely that he goes for it I feel.
TulipKitten
Charles might change here, though. He realized he just basically lost his daughter because he was too passive in these situations.
Zach
He approached Walky privately twice to undermine her. He is NOT going to oppose her.
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
Because of judging a book by it’s cover, no less.
White Flight School of Judging a Book by It’s Cover, since she thought the daughter of a couple from that same fringe ‘hickville’ church whose jobless member, already in trouble with the law for kidnapping his own kid at antique gunpoint, aided that gangster who took her son hostage for the stupidest reasons…Whom wants to study to be a K-12 schoolteacher and simply wants a family of her own, not yachts and crap, simply based on how Northwest European-looking her epidermis was.
lol it does look like they’re both going to go off on her hopefully
tho ‘brilliant young man’ lol i can’t imagine walky willingly sitting through an AP/IB class, maybe the public school he went to didn’t have it but i’m surprised she wouldn’t have been in more control of his schedule to where he started off with premed in the first place
You don’t start off with pre-med. It isn’t offered as a thing. If they are paying for it, she might see what courses he’s taking, but basically at this point he’s taking required freshman courses mostly.
HueSatLight
It probably depends on the school, but starting premed and then switching was not unheard of. It would have been surprising if someone started other and then switched to premed.
thejeff
In most schools, including IU, “pre-med” isn’t actually a thing you take. You don’t get a degree in pre-med.
There are definitely courses that are suggested if you want to go to med school after graduation, but it’s not a specific undergrad degree program.
Roborat
That was one of my favourite ways to piss people off when I was in Uni, they would say they were in pre-med, my reply: “oh in science huh?”. Same for a claim to be in pre-law: “so how is that arts degree going?”.
Leorale
Apparently you can drive Harvard students/grads batty by pretending you don’t know what Harvard is. “Ohhh, is that like a local community college or something?”
jflb96
Oh, you can make a subset of pretty much any group violently annoyed by being deliberately and maliciously wrong about something that they consider basic information
Angel
well, he’s definitely not ‘working his way up to it’, is also what i meant, i can’t imagine walky as a doctor, maybe as an assistant to cheer little kids up but i would not trust walky to do a surgery on anyone lol
HueSatLight
??? I didn’t say it was a degree. Are you calling me a liar or an idiot or what?
What’s the most infuriating situation Lucy has been in, Billie was being a bit sarcastic with her? I think this is the first situation she’s been in where anger feels warranted. Niceness and lack of spine are not the same thing, I’m glad Lucy has one.
I am very curious, and I think it’d depend on if Linda has a job. If she does have a job, I imagine Walky was probably a latchkey kid while both his parents were at work, probably giving him a hour or two after school to watch his favorite cartoons and snack on doritos before they came home. Aside from eating dinner together and probably fussing at him over school, I honestly can’t imagine there being much else to their relationship or Linda’s raising. Like, at least with Charles we’ve seen him drop the kids off to the bus stop on their first day, and be there for Sal when Marcie was in the hospital so maybe he had bonding moments with Charles about stuff. But Linda… it’s harder to imagine with her.
I feel bad having the reaction of, “Linda, what about Walky has EVER given you the impression he has much to aim for?”
Which is not a slight on his capacity so much as the fact that he’s never wanted to or shown a desire for any of the things she seems to think he’s working toward. Did she even bother noticing his major is in communications?
And honestly, it is a good point what you said about Walky. Which like you, I don’t think is a slight against Walky but moreso his mom. Linda looks at her son and has just decided he’s going to be a successful Doctor like Linda, have you had a conversation with your son? Checked to see what his interests are and decided to nurture that? She’s clearly just projecting what she wants out of him. It makes me wonder what Linda and Charles do for a living.
oh gods irl worst major to be forced into can you even imagine?
Laura
That happened to a friend of mine. Daughter of two doctors. They said she was going to follow in their footsteps. I said, “Wow, I didn’t realize that was what she wanted to do.” Her mom replied, “Regardless of whether it’s what she WANTS to do, it’s what she WILL do.”
《Même si c’est pas ce qu’elle VEUT faire, c’est ce qu’elle VA faire.》
She was 15. Poor girl.
Archieve
Yikes, hope things turned out okey for her
Laura
I think she wound up becoming a doctor. 😐
Miri
One of my friends, at 17*, decided to study Medicine and become a doctor (GP) on the basis that she didn’t really know what she wanted to do, her big sister was doing it and enjoying it, and she’d be guaranteed a good job. She’s retraining as a preschool teacher now, which is something I can picture her doing a LOT easier (she’s incredibly bright, but also quite easy to gross out/most definitely thinks there’s such a thing as TMI… She’s also warm, and gentle and patient and loves kids so she’ll do a fab job starting over at 39/40, having never properly worked as a doctor after spending MANY years studying and training (she’s done the rotations and placement things where you have a supervisor and caseloads? But I think she did an optional extra year abroad, had to repeat a few bits, then went part time because she started a family so I don’t think she ever quite got her final sign-off. Then she had her second baby right before COVID hit and really didn’t want to be back in a hospital after that).
*UK, so you study Medicine then do placements for a few years and need to pass a squillion assessments etc etc. But you don’t typically need to get a different degree first. It’s still like 7 years full-time if you don’t need to redo anything I think.
Miri
There were MULTIPLE people at my school who were applying to do Medicine coz they didn’t really know what to do and it seemed like a good idea ?
I think my face managed to not say how I felt about this…
Laura
Good luck to her, Miri! May her path forward be smooth and promising.
Oatmeal Pie
Between the debt and the stress, it’s one of the worst careers to go into if you don’t really want it. Yikes.
Laura
For sure. I’ve got about 1 more year until my student loans are (fingers crossed! Hopefully!) forgiven. Just gotta steel myself.
probably because he isn’t shirtless in pajama jeans stuffing himself with nachitos and mcnuggets growing up but i wouldn’t be surprised if he did decent enough in school to where he could chill on weekends and just do stuff outta linda’s sight within reason
Yeah, I sympathize with Linda’s fear that her son will goof off during college and, to his later regret, fail to gain the finical or career success he might desire once he enters the world at large (Walky does not seem to have a great grasp on how he plans to gain the money he needs to fulfil his strange yet adorable dreams – largely just being the indolent goof he is now but with cooler stuff).
However, Linda is not having a serious conversation with him about this and instead … doing what ever the heck this nonsense is.
358 thoughts on “Raised”
NGPZ
Projectin’ much, Linda? D:<
Angel
idk if she’d ever admit she was ‘slumming’ it other than in her ‘wild teen years’ or whatever, assuming charles makes more money than her if not as much
Ana Chronistic
as if the only way to live in life is to succeed
Rose by Any Other Name
I think the larger issue is that there are many different ways to succeed.
Lucy pointed out Walky’s recent artistic achievements, and Linda blew them off.
NGPZ
Linda wants him to *succeed* in such a way that basically turns her son into a “Perfect Parent” Trophy. Something to show off how oh so “good” she is. ?
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
Basically she’s Willy Loman, only shorter, female, made more money apparently, with better connections throughout her career as an entrepreneur-for-the-purpose-of-being-a-snob-and-climber of sorts, apparently…Oh, and she was a LOT colder to the ‘Hap’ of the family…
Imogen
I really, really like this phrasing. “as if the only way to live in life is to succeed.” Because how can someone possibly succeed at life? Why do we have to frame it in the sense of “failure” and “success” at all?
clif
He who dies with the most toys wins.
I think that’s how it goes.
NickG
But you’re still dead.
Bedovian
I’m sure this is going to end in a very calm and even-keeled conversation
MM
I’m rooting for tomorrow just being Walky and Lucy walking out.
clif
Well, it looks like Lucy is finally getting it.
She counts as slumming it.
Chris Phoenix
“Walky, you could be dating someone whiter than Lucy, why aren’t you?”
Chris
I’m not thinking it’ll be them walking out. I’m thinking her husband might just be curious exactly _why_ she thinks Walky is “slumming it”
Archieve
I suppose Charles can still surprise, but so far he’s done nothing to make me think anyone but Linda can count on him.
Adept
Sadly I feel Charles embodies internalised racism.
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
Probably got it from his bigshot family….And Linda married him because A)She was an NPD-haver who needed his brand of CPD, and B)That was the only way Linda was going to get her claws into the Walkerton name and the clout that supposedly went with it…..And none of the girls Mom and Pap-pap Walkerton would approve of more would take Charles, so it was Linda or get sassed for staying single…
Tan
At best, Charles might suggest Linda ‘lighten up’, failing to confront her on her underlying premise in favor of surface-level ‘getting along’, unless Charles has become a radically different character from his previous appearances.
Jerach
That would be an especially unfortunate phrasing, which makes it all the more likely that he goes for it I feel.
TulipKitten
Charles might change here, though. He realized he just basically lost his daughter because he was too passive in these situations.
Zach
He approached Walky privately twice to undermine her. He is NOT going to oppose her.
DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
Because of judging a book by it’s cover, no less.
White Flight School of Judging a Book by It’s Cover, since she thought the daughter of a couple from that same fringe ‘hickville’ church whose jobless member, already in trouble with the law for kidnapping his own kid at antique gunpoint, aided that gangster who took her son hostage for the stupidest reasons…Whom wants to study to be a K-12 schoolteacher and simply wants a family of her own, not yachts and crap, simply based on how Northwest European-looking her epidermis was.
Concolor44
Yes, that is what they need to do. Immediately.
James
That would be the smart option, probably, so therefore there’s gonna at least be some intermediary steps before it happens.
Mark
Lucy does not look like someone who’s about to walk out. Or be led out.
gears
100%. That’s not “I’m offended” face, that’s “Raise hell” face.
Allen Alberti
I would honestly rather see Lucy lay her out.
Angel
lol it does look like they’re both going to go off on her hopefully
tho ‘brilliant young man’ lol i can’t imagine walky willingly sitting through an AP/IB class, maybe the public school he went to didn’t have it but i’m surprised she wouldn’t have been in more control of his schedule to where he started off with premed in the first place
clif
You don’t start off with pre-med. It isn’t offered as a thing. If they are paying for it, she might see what courses he’s taking, but basically at this point he’s taking required freshman courses mostly.
HueSatLight
It probably depends on the school, but starting premed and then switching was not unheard of. It would have been surprising if someone started other and then switched to premed.
thejeff
In most schools, including IU, “pre-med” isn’t actually a thing you take. You don’t get a degree in pre-med.
There are definitely courses that are suggested if you want to go to med school after graduation, but it’s not a specific undergrad degree program.
Roborat
That was one of my favourite ways to piss people off when I was in Uni, they would say they were in pre-med, my reply: “oh in science huh?”. Same for a claim to be in pre-law: “so how is that arts degree going?”.
Leorale
Apparently you can drive Harvard students/grads batty by pretending you don’t know what Harvard is. “Ohhh, is that like a local community college or something?”
jflb96
Oh, you can make a subset of pretty much any group violently annoyed by being deliberately and maliciously wrong about something that they consider basic information
Angel
well, he’s definitely not ‘working his way up to it’, is also what i meant, i can’t imagine walky as a doctor, maybe as an assistant to cheer little kids up but i would not trust walky to do a surgery on anyone lol
HueSatLight
??? I didn’t say it was a degree. Are you calling me a liar or an idiot or what?
Ari
I mean, plenty of “smart” kids ace AP classes without much work, only to do very badly in college-level courses
Thag Simmons
I don’t know if we’ve ever seen Lucy this mad before
Coatl
Sarah did it first apparently
GreyICE
What’s the most infuriating situation Lucy has been in, Billie was being a bit sarcastic with her? I think this is the first situation she’s been in where anger feels warranted. Niceness and lack of spine are not the same thing, I’m glad Lucy has one.
Amós Batista
Nah, it’s DoA. Perharps tomorrow we will see Joyce or Sal again.
Inahc
the chairs behind them being red seems fitting.
Doopyboop
Oh Linda. You barely raised either of your children. Yelling at them and shaking your fist at them doesn’t count.
Angel
makes me wonder if we’ll get flashbacks to walky on his own when sal was off in boarding school what an average week for him was like then
Doopyboop
I am very curious, and I think it’d depend on if Linda has a job. If she does have a job, I imagine Walky was probably a latchkey kid while both his parents were at work, probably giving him a hour or two after school to watch his favorite cartoons and snack on doritos before they came home. Aside from eating dinner together and probably fussing at him over school, I honestly can’t imagine there being much else to their relationship or Linda’s raising. Like, at least with Charles we’ve seen him drop the kids off to the bus stop on their first day, and be there for Sal when Marcie was in the hospital so maybe he had bonding moments with Charles about stuff. But Linda… it’s harder to imagine with her.
Animedingo
UNLEASH THE BEAST
NGPZ
Please Lucy!!!! Give me a reason to play the Doom Music!!! T_T
True Survivor
Kar en tuk?
NGPZ
The only thing they fear is you
Da Boy
Rip and Tear until it’s Done!
NGPZ
Also Happy Birthday Maggie!!!!
? ? ? ? ? ?
Happy birthday to you!!!
The world is a zoo!!!
We wish you a great party!!!
And some sweet presents too!!!
Diane
I like this version of the song a lot.
Happy birthday Maggie, I’m sorry you got a parent trauma comic for your birthday.
Cholma
Happy Birthday, Maggie!
True Survivor
Yes very happy birthday.
Warcodered
Well let’s face she lasted about as long as she possibly could, which is just incredibly sad.
quark
walky can have a few red trauma panels. as a treat
Proxiehunter
I think these are going to be Lucy’s trauma panels.
Chaucer59
Sic her, Lucy.
C.T. Phipps
I feel bad having the reaction of, “Linda, what about Walky has EVER given you the impression he has much to aim for?”
Which is not a slight on his capacity so much as the fact that he’s never wanted to or shown a desire for any of the things she seems to think he’s working toward. Did she even bother noticing his major is in communications?
Doopyboop
Oh she has definitely noticed his major, she just seems to think she’s gonna change his mind somehow and nag him into premed. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/footforward/
And honestly, it is a good point what you said about Walky. Which like you, I don’t think is a slight against Walky but moreso his mom. Linda looks at her son and has just decided he’s going to be a successful Doctor like Linda, have you had a conversation with your son? Checked to see what his interests are and decided to nurture that? She’s clearly just projecting what she wants out of him. It makes me wonder what Linda and Charles do for a living.
Dara
oh gods irl worst major to be forced into can you even imagine?
Laura
That happened to a friend of mine. Daughter of two doctors. They said she was going to follow in their footsteps. I said, “Wow, I didn’t realize that was what she wanted to do.” Her mom replied, “Regardless of whether it’s what she WANTS to do, it’s what she WILL do.”
《Même si c’est pas ce qu’elle VEUT faire, c’est ce qu’elle VA faire.》
She was 15. Poor girl.
Archieve
Yikes, hope things turned out okey for her
Laura
I think she wound up becoming a doctor. 😐
Miri
One of my friends, at 17*, decided to study Medicine and become a doctor (GP) on the basis that she didn’t really know what she wanted to do, her big sister was doing it and enjoying it, and she’d be guaranteed a good job. She’s retraining as a preschool teacher now, which is something I can picture her doing a LOT easier (she’s incredibly bright, but also quite easy to gross out/most definitely thinks there’s such a thing as TMI… She’s also warm, and gentle and patient and loves kids so she’ll do a fab job starting over at 39/40, having never properly worked as a doctor after spending MANY years studying and training (she’s done the rotations and placement things where you have a supervisor and caseloads? But I think she did an optional extra year abroad, had to repeat a few bits, then went part time because she started a family so I don’t think she ever quite got her final sign-off. Then she had her second baby right before COVID hit and really didn’t want to be back in a hospital after that).
*UK, so you study Medicine then do placements for a few years and need to pass a squillion assessments etc etc. But you don’t typically need to get a different degree first. It’s still like 7 years full-time if you don’t need to redo anything I think.
Miri
There were MULTIPLE people at my school who were applying to do Medicine coz they didn’t really know what to do and it seemed like a good idea ?
I think my face managed to not say how I felt about this…
Laura
Good luck to her, Miri! May her path forward be smooth and promising.
Oatmeal Pie
Between the debt and the stress, it’s one of the worst careers to go into if you don’t really want it. Yikes.
Laura
For sure. I’ve got about 1 more year until my student loans are (fingers crossed! Hopefully!) forgiven. Just gotta steel myself.
(I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV.)
Angel
probably because he isn’t shirtless in pajama jeans stuffing himself with nachitos and mcnuggets growing up but i wouldn’t be surprised if he did decent enough in school to where he could chill on weekends and just do stuff outta linda’s sight within reason
True Survivor
Yeah, I sympathize with Linda’s fear that her son will goof off during college and, to his later regret, fail to gain the finical or career success he might desire once he enters the world at large (Walky does not seem to have a great grasp on how he plans to gain the money he needs to fulfil his strange yet adorable dreams – largely just being the indolent goof he is now but with cooler stuff).
However, Linda is not having a serious conversation with him about this and instead … doing what ever the heck this nonsense is.
BBCC
Telecommunications. He wants to work in tv. Linda doesn’t care.