Jesus shows up and, like me is very confused by this communion ceremony where is the wine (or “wine”). I really was not prepared to be surprised by another churches communion.
Svata
The cup(s) are generally passed around after the bread at this type of communion.
Skizz
The churches when I was a kid were much more formal. No passing around, lots of kneeling up front, being fed wafers and wine, then blessed. Me, I never liked kneeling to other people and prefer a dry red.
Stairmasternem
The Episcapalian church I went to was like this. The church was hilariously scripted, you could read all the words the Priest was going to say in the paper hand out that week.
Peter
Well, that’s true for a lot of the churches that started as state churches (for instance, the Anglican/Episcopalian church, the churches of Denmark, Sweden and Norway). Only the sermon is unscripted, because the structure of the liturgical year is determined by a top-down process.
Stairmasternem
The last time I went to the Episcopalian church my parents attend (Infrequently, mostly just for Easter) the entire sermon was written down, word for word. I actually spent more time that sermon seeing if he deviated at all. He did not.
vmgx
I’ve only been to two churches (a total of 4 times) and they both did that. I kinda assumed every church was like that. Man, is it easy to generalize stuff when you don’t have any knowledge of something’
Stairmasternem
I’ve been to a couple different denominations over the years, since I really started having an interest in Christianity late high school. Very few are actually scripted outside the Catholic churches and the off-shoots of Catholicism.
The church I went to in college was the least scripted one I’ve ever been to. I felt bad for the worship team (playing the instruments and whatnot) because the Pastor would decide every now and again to forego a typical message in favor of extended worship time. Being in college this annoyed me because the cafe was only open for lunch for a limited time and the longer he went on, the less time I had to eat.
yomi
In normal roman catholic masses, you typically only get a communion wafer, unless it’s a special occasion like Holy Thursday or you’re doing some job at the altar.
The one catholic mass in Byzantine rite had a kind of fnny commnion, though. They put a lot of bread pieces in a large chalice of wine and then it’s teamwork of three persons to give you the communion: one is holding the chalice, a second is snipping the wine-soaked bread pieces into your open mouth with a spoon, and the third is holding a dish beneath your chin on the off chance that something might fall down.
SunshineTheif
Every Roman Catholic church I’ve been to had wine as an option, but not everyone drank it.
Slinks
I have been to several Roman Catholic churches, and there has been wine at every Sunday mass. Not everyone drinks it– in fact often the wine-drinkers are the minority– but it is always offered. Also noteworthy, the bread and wine are held by different people and offered, usually at the front of the church, and never just passed around.
Digi
<—- Son of a Episcopalian priest.
the church has every thing written out in the book of common prayer. It's a way to say we are different people leading unique lives, but these are the core ideas that bring us together.
As far as the homily, that's personal style for the priest. Probably so the congregation can do sick/invalid outreach without a loss of community.
steelplatedheart
in my church there was no wine. Wine was the devil’s vine and many times more potent than in the time of christ. So we had grape juice instead. even the adults.
me
I was curious if our church used wine or grape juice, then one day after service I saw my friend and fellow church member emptying the unused “wine” into his daughter’s sippy cup. Pretty sure it’s grape juice.
Hielario
Can’t speak for other denominations…but catholics down here use exactly that. It’s wine only in name.
They always had us get up to pick up a Wafers and a cup of Grape Juice at my Church.
Ed Rhodes
I’ve been to several Catholic churches as I’ve moved from place to place.
None of them offered wine except on special holy days.
Our family went with my mother-in-law (hold the jokes, she was a WONDERFUL person) to her Baptist church and there was wine in a little vial at the pew. Also the host was a cube of bread rather than the round wafer I was used to.
I grew up going to a Lutheran church, and for communion, they’d bring each row up near the altar where you’d kneel, and be fed a communion wafer. Then they’d bring the wine around. The left side drank from a chalice, the right side they had a tray of shots, so you could choose which one you were more comfortable with.
SeanR
At our Methodist church, we have two methods of doing Communion. Most people kneel down at the chancel rail, get a small, individual disposable plastic cup of grape juice, and a square wafer that one or more of the church ladies bake. A few line up to take communion by intinction. Taking a piece of bread that’s torn off of a common loaf, dipping it into a chalice (pewter, I suspect,) and then, if they desire, kneeling for a few moments in prayer. The loaf and chalice serve before the service as, well, I’m sure there is a better term, but I can only think of the term “props”. They’re the ones that the preacher holds up while going through “the cup from which we drink/the bread that we eat”
I’ve gone through both forms of communion. I’m more comfortable with the kneeling and individual elements, as it’s what I’ve always known, but the intinction line is much shorter, and sometimes I need to get through quickly.
Also, our liturgy, with the exception of the Sermon, is typed out, and you can read it out of the bulletin or off the screens, except our current liturgist tends to take the prepared liturgy as more of a suggestion, and an unwelcome one at that, and ad-libs better than half the time for anything that’s not a responsive reading.
a snow ʍousɐ
Jesus shows up and is very confused because his crucifix time machine took him 2 millennia into the future instead of 3 days. He readjusts his spacetime coordinates.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
His calibration was thrown way off by all the time travelers trying to come back and see, prevent, or unprevent the crucifixion.
An Angel of the Lord appears in a grey silk suit and alligator Ferregamo Oxfords, carrying a wafer-thin attaché case. He floats through the pews, coming to a halt in front of Carol. From his case he draws a packet of papers with a blue cover sheet and hands it to Carol. With a voice like distant thunder, he speaks, “Carol, the Lord Jesus Christ herewith orders you to cease and desist all uses of His illustrious name in attempts to justify your personal prejudices. In brief, STFU. And close your mouth—you’re beginning to drool.” Then he disappears in a cloud of righteousness.
Screwball
I believe the proper reply for this is…
HALLELUJAH!! 😛
Reltzik
Wait, so there are lawyers in heaven?
Baronbrian
Gotta be at least a few over the centuries who made it.
SeanR
Our church pianist is a judge. He’s a very good pianist. I hope never to have to see how good a judge he is.
me
Ours is a truck driver. She’s very versatile. Her son is an excavator (professional ditch digger ) and sometimes covers for our preacher when he’s away.
Hielario
Religious law and tribunals used to be a thing in catholic countries.
Better- *jesus appears, says nothing, throws rock at Carol, leaving her to figure it out*
Carol wouldn’t know that authority-questioning hippy if he bit her in the behind. “That guy was Jesus? Guess he got what was coming to him.”
Paul1963
I’m guessing that if Jesus appeared in that church, looking like Jesus probably would have looked IRL, half the congregation would start screaming “AAAAHH!! TERRORIST!! WE’RE GONNA DIE!!”
NotPiffany
Only half? I think you’re being overly optimistic. Even Carol acknowledged racism in her neighborhood; Joyce not hating black people was something to brag about.
N0083rP00F
Well the other half would just chase out the obviously Jewish person who did not belong there.
I thought that said whittles…as in you were making the crosses.
Moon
Completely off topic Ember, but your grav is both awesome and terrifying… i have never seen a train made into a cyclops that looks like it’s cow catcher is the really bad beards from Disney’s Hercules. What is that from?
Neeks
The webcomic paranatural! I want to provide more context than that, but part of the fun in reading paranatural is the wtf we find along the way. Excellent read, delightful art, if you haven’t read it yet go and remedy that posthaste!
Moon
Thanks Neeks, i’ll definitely check it out soon, already have the homepage bookmarked 😀 just have to finish reading my current book, can’t seem to binge webcomics and read novels at the same time anymore lol.
Slinks
Also the tropes. Be prepared to laugh out loud on, like, every page.
Man, if there’s only one thing I envy Catholics for, it’s that they usually get actual BOOZE for Communion (raised Presbyterian, now nondenominational and non-literalist)
SeaAlgae
Just from an ex-Catholic perspective, it wasn’t very good wine
David
From a Catholic perspective, it wouldn’t have been wine at all.
wwwhhattt
From a Scottish perspective, communion wine is really popular among students. Not that I know any church that would actually use Buckfast.
bleepbloop
From a Methodist who went to Catholic school perspective, both the grape juice in those little pre packaged IHOP jelly looking containers and the communion wine were trash. There was only like, two drops of grape juice and drinking out of the same cup of wine as your mean, smelly teachers (read: enemies) was too gross to get past.
Meowserita
Also an ex-Catholic, sometimes it was pretty good.
A Scientist
Ours was white wine. They did a great job of really selling that transubstantiation at my church!
Shade
“This is the white blood cells of Christ.”
DonDueed
Plasma of Christ, donated for thee.
A Scientist
These are good replies. I like these replies.
Bunny
It was really bitter, if I remember correctly. Just like my experiences whenI was Catholic.
Kryss LaBryn
Our Anglican church had a really sweet red wine that I really liked (also kneeling and the priest places a round tasteless wafer directly in your mouth for you; passing it around like a collection plate looks really weird to me. And you know at least one kid went and touched it all). Years later I ran into a cheap , low-alcohol blackberry Merlot that was very similar.
Roborat
Oh behave!
Undrave
I’m technically Catholic and I’ve been to a few masses with communion… only the Priest gets booze. Everybody else just gets a wafer. And you have to wait in line and there’s actually a whole decorum of what you need to say and how you place your hands and the one you then use to eat… or the older way was just get on your knees and to stick out your tongue and the person in charge of distribution would just slap the wafer there!
Yeah, communion “under both species” (I think that’s the term) is usually reserved for special occasions. IDK if it’s the cost of wine, the fear of germs being spread mouth to cup to mouth, or what.
730 thoughts on “Remembrance”
Ana Chronistic
*Jesus appears*
“John 8:7, and gosh, Becky, why don’t you have this nice rock I found!”
Svata
Better- *jesus appears, says nothing, throws rock at Carol, leaving her to figure it out*
SmilingNid
Jesus shows up and, like me is very confused by this communion ceremony where is the wine (or “wine”). I really was not prepared to be surprised by another churches communion.
Svata
The cup(s) are generally passed around after the bread at this type of communion.
Skizz
The churches when I was a kid were much more formal. No passing around, lots of kneeling up front, being fed wafers and wine, then blessed. Me, I never liked kneeling to other people and prefer a dry red.
Stairmasternem
The Episcapalian church I went to was like this. The church was hilariously scripted, you could read all the words the Priest was going to say in the paper hand out that week.
Peter
Well, that’s true for a lot of the churches that started as state churches (for instance, the Anglican/Episcopalian church, the churches of Denmark, Sweden and Norway). Only the sermon is unscripted, because the structure of the liturgical year is determined by a top-down process.
Stairmasternem
The last time I went to the Episcopalian church my parents attend (Infrequently, mostly just for Easter) the entire sermon was written down, word for word. I actually spent more time that sermon seeing if he deviated at all. He did not.
vmgx
I’ve only been to two churches (a total of 4 times) and they both did that. I kinda assumed every church was like that. Man, is it easy to generalize stuff when you don’t have any knowledge of something’
Stairmasternem
I’ve been to a couple different denominations over the years, since I really started having an interest in Christianity late high school. Very few are actually scripted outside the Catholic churches and the off-shoots of Catholicism.
The church I went to in college was the least scripted one I’ve ever been to. I felt bad for the worship team (playing the instruments and whatnot) because the Pastor would decide every now and again to forego a typical message in favor of extended worship time. Being in college this annoyed me because the cafe was only open for lunch for a limited time and the longer he went on, the less time I had to eat.
yomi
In normal roman catholic masses, you typically only get a communion wafer, unless it’s a special occasion like Holy Thursday or you’re doing some job at the altar.
The one catholic mass in Byzantine rite had a kind of fnny commnion, though. They put a lot of bread pieces in a large chalice of wine and then it’s teamwork of three persons to give you the communion: one is holding the chalice, a second is snipping the wine-soaked bread pieces into your open mouth with a spoon, and the third is holding a dish beneath your chin on the off chance that something might fall down.
SunshineTheif
Every Roman Catholic church I’ve been to had wine as an option, but not everyone drank it.
Slinks
I have been to several Roman Catholic churches, and there has been wine at every Sunday mass. Not everyone drinks it– in fact often the wine-drinkers are the minority– but it is always offered. Also noteworthy, the bread and wine are held by different people and offered, usually at the front of the church, and never just passed around.
Digi
<—- Son of a Episcopalian priest.
the church has every thing written out in the book of common prayer. It's a way to say we are different people leading unique lives, but these are the core ideas that bring us together.
As far as the homily, that's personal style for the priest. Probably so the congregation can do sick/invalid outreach without a loss of community.
steelplatedheart
in my church there was no wine. Wine was the devil’s vine and many times more potent than in the time of christ. So we had grape juice instead. even the adults.
me
I was curious if our church used wine or grape juice, then one day after service I saw my friend and fellow church member emptying the unused “wine” into his daughter’s sippy cup. Pretty sure it’s grape juice.
Hielario
Can’t speak for other denominations…but catholics down here use exactly that. It’s wine only in name.
SonicBlueRanger
They always had us get up to pick up a Wafers and a cup of Grape Juice at my Church.
Ed Rhodes
I’ve been to several Catholic churches as I’ve moved from place to place.
None of them offered wine except on special holy days.
Our family went with my mother-in-law (hold the jokes, she was a WONDERFUL person) to her Baptist church and there was wine in a little vial at the pew. Also the host was a cube of bread rather than the round wafer I was used to.
qman
I grew up going to a Lutheran church, and for communion, they’d bring each row up near the altar where you’d kneel, and be fed a communion wafer. Then they’d bring the wine around. The left side drank from a chalice, the right side they had a tray of shots, so you could choose which one you were more comfortable with.
SeanR
At our Methodist church, we have two methods of doing Communion. Most people kneel down at the chancel rail, get a small, individual disposable plastic cup of grape juice, and a square wafer that one or more of the church ladies bake. A few line up to take communion by intinction. Taking a piece of bread that’s torn off of a common loaf, dipping it into a chalice (pewter, I suspect,) and then, if they desire, kneeling for a few moments in prayer. The loaf and chalice serve before the service as, well, I’m sure there is a better term, but I can only think of the term “props”. They’re the ones that the preacher holds up while going through “the cup from which we drink/the bread that we eat”
I’ve gone through both forms of communion. I’m more comfortable with the kneeling and individual elements, as it’s what I’ve always known, but the intinction line is much shorter, and sometimes I need to get through quickly.
Also, our liturgy, with the exception of the Sermon, is typed out, and you can read it out of the bulletin or off the screens, except our current liturgist tends to take the prepared liturgy as more of a suggestion, and an unwelcome one at that, and ad-libs better than half the time for anything that’s not a responsive reading.
a snow ʍousɐ
Jesus shows up and is very confused because his crucifix time machine took him 2 millennia into the future instead of 3 days. He readjusts his spacetime coordinates.
Slartibeast Button, BIA
His calibration was thrown way off by all the time travelers trying to come back and see, prevent, or unprevent the crucifixion.
David
“Jesus, he who is without sin. You’re intemperate and besides, you carry the sin of the world.” “Oh, right.” [Hands the rock over to Mary]
Orion Fury
Boom.
Chaucer59
An Angel of the Lord appears in a grey silk suit and alligator Ferregamo Oxfords, carrying a wafer-thin attaché case. He floats through the pews, coming to a halt in front of Carol. From his case he draws a packet of papers with a blue cover sheet and hands it to Carol. With a voice like distant thunder, he speaks, “Carol, the Lord Jesus Christ herewith orders you to cease and desist all uses of His illustrious name in attempts to justify your personal prejudices. In brief, STFU. And close your mouth—you’re beginning to drool.” Then he disappears in a cloud of righteousness.
Screwball
I believe the proper reply for this is…
HALLELUJAH!! 😛
Reltzik
Wait, so there are lawyers in heaven?
Baronbrian
Gotta be at least a few over the centuries who made it.
SeanR
Our church pianist is a judge. He’s a very good pianist. I hope never to have to see how good a judge he is.
me
Ours is a truck driver. She’s very versatile. Her son is an excavator (professional ditch digger ) and sometimes covers for our preacher when he’s away.
Hielario
Religious law and tribunals used to be a thing in catholic countries.
maxyai
“Jesus has spoken” *rock drop*
David
Carol wouldn’t know that authority-questioning hippy if he bit her in the behind. “That guy was Jesus? Guess he got what was coming to him.”
Paul1963
I’m guessing that if Jesus appeared in that church, looking like Jesus probably would have looked IRL, half the congregation would start screaming “AAAAHH!! TERRORIST!! WE’RE GONNA DIE!!”
NotPiffany
Only half? I think you’re being overly optimistic. Even Carol acknowledged racism in her neighborhood; Joyce not hating black people was something to brag about.
N0083rP00F
Well the other half would just chase out the obviously Jewish person who did not belong there.
TheAnonymousGuy
That moment you realize you have nothing to say, but still want be part of the conversation.
neon5162
mmm pizza
miados
and for some reason i just thought of this thing my brother would say at times
“jesus loves you, but i’m his favorite.”
wwwhhattt
I used to have that on a t-shirt, I don’t think anyone at my church got offended by it, hopefully…
Ana Chronistic
I think you should have this card: http://www.thoughtviper.com/inexob/arch72.html
(I, uh, mean to give out of course!)
Calimbandil
God works in awesome ways.
Edhead
I just know joyce/becky are gonna get crucified.
Maveric1984
Always look on the bright side of life. *whistles*
Ember
I thought that said whittles…as in you were making the crosses.
Moon
Completely off topic Ember, but your grav is both awesome and terrifying… i have never seen a train made into a cyclops that looks like it’s cow catcher is the really bad beards from Disney’s Hercules. What is that from?
Neeks
The webcomic paranatural! I want to provide more context than that, but part of the fun in reading paranatural is the wtf we find along the way. Excellent read, delightful art, if you haven’t read it yet go and remedy that posthaste!
Moon
Thanks Neeks, i’ll definitely check it out soon, already have the homepage bookmarked 😀 just have to finish reading my current book, can’t seem to binge webcomics and read novels at the same time anymore lol.
Slinks
Also the tropes. Be prepared to laugh out loud on, like, every page.
Kim
I was wondering the same thing! 😀
Reltzik
Then why is it that CAROL’s the one getting cross?
*rimshot*
Michael Steamweed
Nailed it!
inqntrol
If a verbal conflict starts, they could try to solve it with canons.
Dara
Carol’s host is all dry and crumbly and she lacks cheez whiz to fix it.
Shade
Come on guys this is a really thorny situation, this could be Carol’s crowning moment to improve as a person.
TheAnonymousGuy
I feel like we need a contingency plan, you know, incase things get to serious.
Dr. T
😀
miados
huh they eat it as they get it? my churches always waited for the pastor to say a thing after we all had it.
Mollyscribbles
Same here. Also we just got cubes of white bread and tiny glasses of Welch’s grape juice, so it didn’t really feel biblical.
BeckyHop
Man, if there’s only one thing I envy Catholics for, it’s that they usually get actual BOOZE for Communion (raised Presbyterian, now nondenominational and non-literalist)
SeaAlgae
Just from an ex-Catholic perspective, it wasn’t very good wine
David
From a Catholic perspective, it wouldn’t have been wine at all.
wwwhhattt
From a Scottish perspective, communion wine is really popular among students. Not that I know any church that would actually use Buckfast.
bleepbloop
From a Methodist who went to Catholic school perspective, both the grape juice in those little pre packaged IHOP jelly looking containers and the communion wine were trash. There was only like, two drops of grape juice and drinking out of the same cup of wine as your mean, smelly teachers (read: enemies) was too gross to get past.
Meowserita
Also an ex-Catholic, sometimes it was pretty good.
A Scientist
Ours was white wine. They did a great job of really selling that transubstantiation at my church!
Shade
“This is the white blood cells of Christ.”
DonDueed
Plasma of Christ, donated for thee.
A Scientist
These are good replies. I like these replies.
Bunny
It was really bitter, if I remember correctly. Just like my experiences whenI was Catholic.
Kryss LaBryn
Our Anglican church had a really sweet red wine that I really liked (also kneeling and the priest places a round tasteless wafer directly in your mouth for you; passing it around like a collection plate looks really weird to me. And you know at least one kid went and touched it all). Years later I ran into a cheap , low-alcohol blackberry Merlot that was very similar.
Roborat
Oh behave!
Undrave
I’m technically Catholic and I’ve been to a few masses with communion… only the Priest gets booze. Everybody else just gets a wafer. And you have to wait in line and there’s actually a whole decorum of what you need to say and how you place your hands and the one you then use to eat… or the older way was just get on your knees and to stick out your tongue and the person in charge of distribution would just slap the wafer there!
Brigid Keely
Yeah, communion “under both species” (I think that’s the term) is usually reserved for special occasions. IDK if it’s the cost of wine, the fear of germs being spread mouth to cup to mouth, or what.