Only two? I don’t care where you find them, break at least six legs on that asshole.
desolation0
I actually think one particular broken appendage might be enough.
Needfuldoer
Remove all the femurs!
Mr. Bulbmin
“. . . I will break every bone in your body, then take you into my home. I shall care for you, heal you, make sure you love me and consider me your greatest, most beloved friend . . . then, I shall break your every bone again, and abandon you on the roadside.
thejeff
“I’ll be with them asleep or dreaming
I’ll be there when they wake up screaming
At the hour of death I will nurse them
To have a moment more to curse them”
There’s some deep seated misogyny there–not that we didn’t know that but his reaction to this is to go after the people involved rather than go into hiding or distance himself.
Ooh, that’s dark. Kinda had the same thought while I was wondering what was in his hand
Michael Chandra
Nobody dies in DoA, right?
jeffepp
Maybe, but it doesn’t mean he didn’t try. Last we saw of him, he was sneaking into that classroom.
thejeff
Phone in his hand, I assume. That’s what it was last time we saw him.
begbert2
I assumed it was a knife, because how goddamned stupid would he have to be to think that he could successfully murder two people simultaneously without some sort of weapon? I mean, sure he could try to strangle them, but he can’t exactly choke them both at the same time, leaving the other one to run or get help or roundhouse kick his head off.
….. goddammit, there’s a NEW translation for me to keep track of. Grrr.
The verse can be taken a lot of ways. The obvious is “you were idiots to go walking around blind in the dark where I can see you”, and a lot of people will take a passage like that out of context just for the convenience of the easy reference to the immediate situation.
But the larger context of the passage makes it a reference all your works coming to naught, the inevitable pointlessness of worldly accomplishments and virtues, or “no one’s going to miss you”. The wise have eyes to see this and the fools are blind to it, but the outcome is the same regardless. Super-extra creepy.
… given that “Ryan” is, supposedly, a preacher’s son, and given that he’s had quite a bit of time to stew in hate over his exposure, and given that he’s a planner and preparer, I’m guessing he cooked this line up with an eye towards its larger Biblical context.
….. you know, I just realized. The context of this part of the chapter is about finding humility and recognizing that all the power you have wielded is irrelevant.
…. I’m worried that “Ryan” is going to come at this from the “I want to beg forgiveness” angle.
My experience with preachers who have sons like this: they don’t view the bible as a story. They view it as a collection of phrases to use, helpfully numbered for easy reference. Larger context? Only significant if it’s part of one of the big stories. And then, only important for telling that story.
Thus, you get preachers who claim that Jesus was against women preachers, because one of the early letters was written to a church who kept their women ignorant deliberately, and suggested that the women who had been deliberately kept ignorant should not be teaching. And stuff like that.
well i mean maybe he wanted only joyce, but that was before amazi-girl beat him up.
he probably has a hit list now
Reltzik
Except he was blaming Amazi-Girl coming after him on Joyce. Amazi-Girl didn’t distract him from Joyce. It refocused him.
Being exposed? That’s on Joyce too.
I’m reading this as he sees Dorothy as a way of finding where Joyce lives.
Amber is just… a bystander. He’s looking directly at Dorothy. Ignoring Amber completely.
Kole
why wouldn’t he be after Amber or Dorothy? They exposed him lol. Clearly he has a low opinion of women in general for him to be a rape happy piece of scum in the first place.
but i’m not sure that dorothy’s name was that attached to the story going around? although it doesn’t make sense that he’s following her now if it wasn’t. idk. that was something that got pretty heavily debated.
amber. i dunno. i don’t know if the connection between amazi-girl and amber has come together for him. but this might be a slightly more realistic bend on the narrative in that people who’ve seen both amber and amazi-girl recognize them as the same body whereas if you’ve only ever seen amber or amazi-girl that shoe’s not gonna drop
thejeff
The only person so far who’s just recognized Amber as Amazi-Girl without specific clues is Dina. (And she might well have had such clues – or just been standing behind the door when Amber changed._ The only one with known clues is Dorothy.
No one else, including people who’ve known both, has done so.
It would be a major shift if Ryan were just to glance at Amber and know.
Reltzik
Well, to be fair, Danny figured it out with clues.
IDK like. i dunno! it does seem like he might know, but it might be an Red Herring. who knows.
HMH
I mean, he’s a preacher’s son. That pretty much guarantees he has to have a low opinion of women. Treating women as equals directly conflicts with the teachings of the Bible itself. Feminism is a sinner’s game by nature.
HMH
…you know, I’m definitely gonna regret this one. I should take better stock of how angry something makes me before I decide to post about it on the internet…
Makkabee
I think it’s fair to say that there are certain factions within the Christian community for whom your comment holds true. We shouldn’t overgeneralize — there are also factions that take the “peace and love” part of the message seriously, and some sects that have strong feminist credentials.
I’d say you overgeneralized — something most of us, me certainly, have done from time to time — but your comment has a firm basis in fact.
begbert2
It’s fair to say that there’s enough stuff in the bible that you can construct darn near *any* narrative and find things in the bible that can be interpreted as supporting it with divine force. Starting with murder, rape, and unprovoked warfare, and proceeding from there.
Reltzik
@begbert2
Now, let’s be fair. That cuts both ways. It’s POSSIBLE to justify feminism out of the Bible. I’ve seen people do it. You have to twist a lot of passages out of their original intent and context, and ignore other passages or dismiss them somehow, but it can be done.
…. it isn’t done very often, or by a significant portion of Christianity, and from what I’ve seen in most of those cases it’s about justifying one’s own leanings rather than actually coming to a compassionate position BECAUSE the Bible “endorses” it.
But it is, technically, possible to construct a positive narrative out of the Bible.
Reltzik
Okay, I’ve met a few preacher’s children who were pretty enlightened. Mostly children of liberal denominations, but a few of the high-church types as well. And I’ve heard stories of people who walk away from despicable things their preacher daddies teach them.
….. 95% of them, though? Yeah, they learn poison at their parents’ knees.
Mr. Bulbmin
One of the most tragic stories I have from experience (I knew the person, talked with them, and worked them through their issues) is of a good person, loving and forgiving, who held religion in their heart even until their unfortunate demise . . . even though said religion was the justification their “friends” and family had for abandoning them.
I generally have a poor opinion of people in general, and those that prove me wrong are the exception, not the rule. Asshattery is not unique to any one group of humans- most of us are bad, a few are decent, and a puny smattering are legitimately good, and this is true in every religion, every race, every creed, every nationality, et cetera, et cetera.
a snow ʍousɐ
@bulbmin Well, that’s depresing.
People have flaws and good points. Some people try to be good, some people don’t care. (And I suppose THAT can depend on context, and therein the line between “decents” and “asshats” gets smudged, because what external circumstances justifies different treatment?) There are also people who are pretty selfless just by their nature. And then there are people who willfully try to screw people over, the Marys of the world. Fuck them. Those are the people who elected Trump (along with the gullibles who just toe the party line and don’t question things).
I would love if this is leading to a year-long series of strips where the punchline to every single one is that a different character gets stabbed in the spleen. It all takes place over one day in comic time and results in the college closing.
517 thoughts on “Reprioritize”
Ana Chronistic
“and *I* see a fool who can start walking with TWO BLACK EYES”
THE FUCK
Opus the Poet
I was thinking more like two broken legs.
Kris
That would be more like a fool crawls in the dark.
djhash
How about making him with TWO scars!!
Doctor_Who
Only two? I don’t care where you find them, break at least six legs on that asshole.
desolation0
I actually think one particular broken appendage might be enough.
Needfuldoer
Remove all the femurs!
Mr. Bulbmin
“. . . I will break every bone in your body, then take you into my home. I shall care for you, heal you, make sure you love me and consider me your greatest, most beloved friend . . . then, I shall break your every bone again, and abandon you on the roadside.
thejeff
“I’ll be with them asleep or dreaming
I’ll be there when they wake up screaming
At the hour of death I will nurse them
To have a moment more to curse them”
Pogues – Rake at the Gates of Hell
Osaru Sensei
This one agrees.
TheAnonymousGuy
I’m sorry, did you just call batman a fool?
Delicious Taffy
If the cape fits…
The Other Mike
Batman doesn’t walk in the dark. He runs, he ziplines, he glides, he takes the Batmobile…
Fart Captor
Where he’s going, he won’t need eyes…
OnyxIdol
+1
zoelogical
you say that, but all i’m thinking of is The Pale Man.
Fart Captor
Well, Even Horizon came out like 20 years ago so GOD DAMN I’M OLD NOW HOW DID THIS HAPPEN
AnvilPro
Fuck you “Ryan”. Not just for being a date-rapist and planning to murder two girls, but for using stupid opening lines like that.
C.T Phipps
There’s some deep seated misogyny there–not that we didn’t know that but his reaction to this is to go after the people involved rather than go into hiding or distance himself.
Dave
“How dare they expose my shitty deeds, clearly they are the ones with a problem and not me.”
Pablo360
Also, “I can totally take them, it’s not like one of them is a vigilante who’s skilled in hand-to-hand combat or anything”
Knuf Wons
Ryan: *commits assault and battery* “You guys blow the things I do way out of proportion. I’m a nice Christian boy!”
thejeff
To be fair, he doesn’t know Amber’s Amazi-Girl.
Rowen Morland
We hope.
Inspector Hound
I dunno — he seems like the obsessive type, and may be the sort of person who could see through the disguise.
I suspect he’s going after Dorothy, and viewing Amber as inconsequential. But Amber’s been figured out before.
jeffepp
I fear that they aren’t his first this day. We may be less one character, already.
kevlulz
Ooh, that’s dark. Kinda had the same thought while I was wondering what was in his hand
Michael Chandra
Nobody dies in DoA, right?
jeffepp
Maybe, but it doesn’t mean he didn’t try. Last we saw of him, he was sneaking into that classroom.
thejeff
Phone in his hand, I assume. That’s what it was last time we saw him.
begbert2
I assumed it was a knife, because how goddamned stupid would he have to be to think that he could successfully murder two people simultaneously without some sort of weapon? I mean, sure he could try to strangle them, but he can’t exactly choke them both at the same time, leaving the other one to run or get help or roundhouse kick his head off.
Reltzik
Ecc. 2:14. New Living Translation.
….. goddammit, there’s a NEW translation for me to keep track of. Grrr.
The verse can be taken a lot of ways. The obvious is “you were idiots to go walking around blind in the dark where I can see you”, and a lot of people will take a passage like that out of context just for the convenience of the easy reference to the immediate situation.
But the larger context of the passage makes it a reference all your works coming to naught, the inevitable pointlessness of worldly accomplishments and virtues, or “no one’s going to miss you”. The wise have eyes to see this and the fools are blind to it, but the outcome is the same regardless. Super-extra creepy.
… given that “Ryan” is, supposedly, a preacher’s son, and given that he’s had quite a bit of time to stew in hate over his exposure, and given that he’s a planner and preparer, I’m guessing he cooked this line up with an eye towards its larger Biblical context.
butting
Folk who attempt daterape and who get their bros to try to beat up anyone who challenge them really shouldn’t be quoting wisdom literature, yeah?
Reltzik
… well, I’m hesitant to say that they get to do ANYTHING, but I’ve got a low opinion of the Bible’s moral and/or wisdom content, so I’m conflicted.
And in practical terms, the refuge in audacity has served them well in the past.
.. nah, Ryan shouldn’t get to do anything except be neutralized as a threat to anyone.
Minotaur
You mean neutered?
Reltzik
I think he’d go on a revenge rampage if that was all that was done to him, so, no.
Temperaryobsessor
I prefer the term eunified.
zoelogical
ecclesiastes is kind of depression wisdom literature but sure
Kamino Neko
I’m not sure 20 years still counts as ‘new’ even for bible translations…
Reltzik
Of course it’s new! It says so right in its name!
Pablo360
So does the NIV.
Reltzik
….. you know, I just realized. The context of this part of the chapter is about finding humility and recognizing that all the power you have wielded is irrelevant.
…. I’m worried that “Ryan” is going to come at this from the “I want to beg forgiveness” angle.
…. and I’m worried that Joyce will fall for it.
Tgape
My experience with preachers who have sons like this: they don’t view the bible as a story. They view it as a collection of phrases to use, helpfully numbered for easy reference. Larger context? Only significant if it’s part of one of the big stories. And then, only important for telling that story.
Thus, you get preachers who claim that Jesus was against women preachers, because one of the early letters was written to a church who kept their women ignorant deliberately, and suggested that the women who had been deliberately kept ignorant should not be teaching. And stuff like that.
Halpful
Darmok, at Tanagra! 😉
Twirls
Amen to that
OnyxIdol
I don’t think he’s planning murder, “just” intimidation.
Reltzik
Yeah, he’s not after Dorothy. Or Amber. He wants Joyce. And maybe Amazi-Girl and Sal, but mostly Joyce.
zoelogical
well i mean maybe he wanted only joyce, but that was before amazi-girl beat him up.
he probably has a hit list now
Reltzik
Except he was blaming Amazi-Girl coming after him on Joyce. Amazi-Girl didn’t distract him from Joyce. It refocused him.
Being exposed? That’s on Joyce too.
I’m reading this as he sees Dorothy as a way of finding where Joyce lives.
Amber is just… a bystander. He’s looking directly at Dorothy. Ignoring Amber completely.
Kole
why wouldn’t he be after Amber or Dorothy? They exposed him lol. Clearly he has a low opinion of women in general for him to be a rape happy piece of scum in the first place.
zoelogical
i mostly meant, like, before they exposed him
but i’m not sure that dorothy’s name was that attached to the story going around? although it doesn’t make sense that he’s following her now if it wasn’t. idk. that was something that got pretty heavily debated.
amber. i dunno. i don’t know if the connection between amazi-girl and amber has come together for him. but this might be a slightly more realistic bend on the narrative in that people who’ve seen both amber and amazi-girl recognize them as the same body whereas if you’ve only ever seen amber or amazi-girl that shoe’s not gonna drop
thejeff
The only person so far who’s just recognized Amber as Amazi-Girl without specific clues is Dina. (And she might well have had such clues – or just been standing behind the door when Amber changed._ The only one with known clues is Dorothy.
No one else, including people who’ve known both, has done so.
It would be a major shift if Ryan were just to glance at Amber and know.
Reltzik
Well, to be fair, Danny figured it out with clues.
…. pretty BIG clues, but clues.
zoelogical
IDK like. i dunno! it does seem like he might know, but it might be an Red Herring. who knows.
HMH
I mean, he’s a preacher’s son. That pretty much guarantees he has to have a low opinion of women. Treating women as equals directly conflicts with the teachings of the Bible itself. Feminism is a sinner’s game by nature.
HMH
…you know, I’m definitely gonna regret this one. I should take better stock of how angry something makes me before I decide to post about it on the internet…
Makkabee
I think it’s fair to say that there are certain factions within the Christian community for whom your comment holds true. We shouldn’t overgeneralize — there are also factions that take the “peace and love” part of the message seriously, and some sects that have strong feminist credentials.
I’d say you overgeneralized — something most of us, me certainly, have done from time to time — but your comment has a firm basis in fact.
begbert2
It’s fair to say that there’s enough stuff in the bible that you can construct darn near *any* narrative and find things in the bible that can be interpreted as supporting it with divine force. Starting with murder, rape, and unprovoked warfare, and proceeding from there.
Reltzik
@begbert2
Now, let’s be fair. That cuts both ways. It’s POSSIBLE to justify feminism out of the Bible. I’ve seen people do it. You have to twist a lot of passages out of their original intent and context, and ignore other passages or dismiss them somehow, but it can be done.
…. it isn’t done very often, or by a significant portion of Christianity, and from what I’ve seen in most of those cases it’s about justifying one’s own leanings rather than actually coming to a compassionate position BECAUSE the Bible “endorses” it.
But it is, technically, possible to construct a positive narrative out of the Bible.
Reltzik
Okay, I’ve met a few preacher’s children who were pretty enlightened. Mostly children of liberal denominations, but a few of the high-church types as well. And I’ve heard stories of people who walk away from despicable things their preacher daddies teach them.
….. 95% of them, though? Yeah, they learn poison at their parents’ knees.
Mr. Bulbmin
One of the most tragic stories I have from experience (I knew the person, talked with them, and worked them through their issues) is of a good person, loving and forgiving, who held religion in their heart even until their unfortunate demise . . . even though said religion was the justification their “friends” and family had for abandoning them.
I generally have a poor opinion of people in general, and those that prove me wrong are the exception, not the rule. Asshattery is not unique to any one group of humans- most of us are bad, a few are decent, and a puny smattering are legitimately good, and this is true in every religion, every race, every creed, every nationality, et cetera, et cetera.
a snow ʍousɐ
@bulbmin Well, that’s depresing.
People have flaws and good points. Some people try to be good, some people don’t care. (And I suppose THAT can depend on context, and therein the line between “decents” and “asshats” gets smudged, because what external circumstances justifies different treatment?) There are also people who are pretty selfless just by their nature. And then there are people who willfully try to screw people over, the Marys of the world. Fuck them. Those are the people who elected Trump (along with the gullibles who just toe the party line and don’t question things).
Eyebrow
He seems to have a weapon in his right hand.
Eldritch Gentleman
It’s extra disgusting that he is quoting religious stuff. The sheer hypocrisy should give him an aneurysm… assuming he has a working brain.
IllogicalBobcat
“Nothing worse than a monster who thinks he’s right with god.”
Jago
Wait, murder? What did I miss?
Lala
I’m missing something. Who did he try to murder?
General Tekno
So he’s a fool then.
Temperaryobsessor
Pretty much.
athan1214
Bro’s got a knife…That’s going straight into his spleen. In fact, spleen stabbings for everyone! here here!
Shiro
Is it a knife? I don’t see a blade. Guess it could be folded, though.
DinaWho
So that’s what he’s holding? I couldn’t really figure it out – my guess was flashlight. (Would not surprise me too much if it was a weapon though)
AnvilPro
I would love if this is leading to a year-long series of strips where the punchline to every single one is that a different character gets stabbed in the spleen. It all takes place over one day in comic time and results in the college closing.