If I ever pay for that tier I might have to go for Ethan’s mom with Ruth. If you get it, you win… oh, hell if I know. I already awarded the entire internet to Doctor_Who.
To be perfectly fair, when one is used to waking up early every day it can be hard to sleep in that much. Using myself as an example, since I switched to working just mornings rather than evenings or a mix of mornings and evenings I’ve had trouble sleeping later than 9am on my days off. This has been compounded lately with working a six day schedule, which has left me waking up even earlier on my one day off.
All that being said, I think she maybe did sleep in, seeing as David is awake…
Wishing you all a belated Happy Dumbing Day, which this year was back on Friday the 14th. TLDR: We celebrate DUMBING DAY on whatever date (month and day) in real life that happens to correspond to the current in-story date of DoA (according to the deductions/assumptions of Walkypedia). I’m sorry I missed it, but it was a very busy day for me and it completely flew under my radar. And it was even a very special Dumbing Day, as it occurred on the same weekday (Friday) as in the actual storyline, which has never happened on a previous Dumbing Day. Oh well. See you next year around January 18….
Hmmm….
Looking at the URL from your link in your post you have an extra set of characters on the end, specifically “%E2%80%9D”, which correspond to the Unicode “right quotation mark” symbol as encoded in UTF-8 text encoding.
I’m guessing that somewhere in your system settings an option to replace flat quotation marks with their “nice” looking variant is set. You may be able to find that and disable it, so just typing in HTML markup code like that works as expected, but you can bypass that behavior while leaving it set if you just copy and paste from the displayed HTML tags displayed below the text entry field on this site.
Ruth’s Walkyverse birthday was established as “…y 13”. If that’s to be presumed as January 13 and assuming it stays the same (as it has for the Walkerton twins, born on April 1 in both ‘verses), then yes.
Needfuldoer
Okay, I think something’s off by one here, either the timeline on Walkypedia or my calculations.
“Hompk!” takes place on Ruth’s birthday, established as January 13th.
That would mean Ruth’s birthday was on Wednesday, and this is Sunday the 17th?
Bonus inference: January 13th fell on a Wednesday in 2021, so presumably DoA is following 2021’s calendar now. Good thing their universe exists in a timeline where 2020 lost. Help them all if they’re stuck perpetually living in a world where 2020 won.
Lingo
I think the Wiki timeline might actually be based on my previous deductions from last year. Specifically, they’re based on the previous deductions/assumptions from last semester. If the Wiki is correct in dating the first strip of DOA, a Sunday, on August 29th, then that would place the first day of classes for the Spring semester (Monday) on January 10 (assuming it isn’t, say, a week earlier or a week later). Unfortunately that isn’t compatible with placing Ruth’s birthday on January 13. So either that’s wrong, the deductions/assumptions about the fall semester were wrong, or the timelines for the two semesters simply aren’t compatible.
Needfuldoer
The first semester calculations are correct, “season 1” was definitely timed out around 2010’s calendar. That’s what I based my 66:1 passage of time calculation on way back when.
I think the time skip was long enough to safely obfuscate the difference. It covers almost as much story time as the comic’s first real-time decade, what’s an extra day or two? The second semester / “season two” was always supposed to be a soft reboot anyway, we can realign to the new calendar and handwave away the discrepancy under the MST3K Mantra.
I think you’d actually have to remove a day to make it work. Not sure what you mean by a “soft reboot”. As far as I know, it was only a time skip. So unless the Word of God says otherwise, My preference would be to go with a calendar that doesn’t break continuity.
King Daniel
By “soft reboot”, it’s meant that the beginning of Season Two—which started with Book 11–is intended as a good starting point in the comic for new readers, especially those who might not at first be interested in reading through a solid decade’s worth of precursor strips (including a rather janky art style at the beginning, compared to today). Hence us being given introductions to all of the characters all over again, given summarizations of what happened over the preceding ten years of strips, etc. There was even discussion and speculation back then as a result as to whether Season Two would use 2011’s calendar as Season One used 2010’s, or if—as now seems might be the case—it’d use the present year for calculating the weekdays instead.
Needfuldoer
But if the calendar didn’t break with the first semester’s, the timeline doesn’t fit. Either Dumbiverse Ruth’s birthday is the 12th, or the skip obscured the time discrepancy. There’s one too many chapters to follow 2011’s calendar to the letter given the one-chapter-per-day pace and the assumptions we’re working with.
@Needfuldoer: Yeah, which is why I’m personally assuming that the post-timeskip timeline is following the 2021 calendar. It would be in keeping with the spirit of the “DoA is always set in 20[present year]” rule to update the calendar to be more current after the soft-reboot, instead of continuing to use the calendar from over a decade ago.
Lingo
And I personally don’t see a need to assume that all the characters’ birthdays are the same across the two universes (though a few may be the same), given that DW changed all their relative ages to begin with. Works better in my head than assuming, say, that DOA is set in a universe in which December has only 30 days.
Thank you, I’m flattered! If I have time, I’ll try to edit that to prove more info and dates. But we should put a big disclaimer on that, because, as discussed above, the dates are based on inferences and assumptions that may be incorrect, or may be incompatible with DW’s own plans for his story. And it’s his story — he can break continuity if he wants.
To be fair to Walky she dropped that bomb on him while there was a bunch going on, he was probably more mentally occupied with not getting the comic gig then anything Joyce was saying
I’ll maintain that, regardless of bedtime apparel, gym shorts are more appropriate walking-around-the-dorm apparel than exposed underwear.
It is odd to me how many characters are seen walking the halls in their underwear, since that is very different from my personal college experience. (I find it a believable thing for college kids to do; it just wasn’t my experience in my particular dorm hall on my particular campus.)
Always thought the worst part of being religious (Christian version) was committing to spend all your Sunday mornings churching it up. Doncha ever wanna play basketball or est waffles or jerk off or whatever?!
199 thoughts on “Roughing”
Jen Aside
Joyce, one of the pros of Not Church is sleeping in and NOT SEEING WALKY UNDERPANTS
The Wellerman
Woah! What is it, change your avatar day?
RassilonTDavros
Is that Liz with Dina’s mom?
…ships never cease to surprise me
Doctor_Who
Her ride is here at last.
RassilonTDavros
…you win the entire internet.
Mr. Random
They are a time traveller.
We have no idea if that’s going to be canon.
King Daniel
No, Ana’s the time traveler. Tairan’s the assassin, while Jen and Sue are…uh…
Clif
Pick your cides.
Deanatay
Jen’s a city planner, expertise in population control.
Sue’s a therapist. Specializes in… well, call her hotline and find out.
Thag Simmons
It’s not a very serious ship and that’s the point
RassilonTDavros
If I ever pay for that tier I might have to go for Ethan’s mom with Ruth. If you get it, you win… oh, hell if I know. I already awarded the entire internet to Doctor_Who.
King Daniel
What did Emperor Norton have to say about that?
Nono
I’d go for, hmm…
JoexDrew.
Delicious Taffy
Would their ship name be Doe or Jrew?
vlademir1
To be perfectly fair, when one is used to waking up early every day it can be hard to sleep in that much. Using myself as an example, since I switched to working just mornings rather than evenings or a mix of mornings and evenings I’ve had trouble sleeping later than 9am on my days off. This has been compounded lately with working a six day schedule, which has left me waking up even earlier on my one day off.
All that being said, I think she maybe did sleep in, seeing as David is awake…
Ana Chronistic
Eh, I got up early every day of MAGFest bc free hotel breakfast
Then I went back to bed lol
Clif
My hero!
Needfuldoer
Free hotel breakfast is the best thing in the world, in the moment.
Once you get some caffeine and carbs into you and your brain finishes booting, you realize it was worth every penny you paid for it.
Ana Chronistic
I had a whole-ass plate of scrambled eggs each day bc I was wary about loading up only on meats even though my doc says I can have it now
Not eating eggs again for a while… ?
Decidedly Orthogonal
Wait… is Ana Chronistic also Jen Aside, or not? ?
Also, Damnit Walkerton, it’s Tuesday, not Sunday. Don’t rub it in.
King Daniel
Not only Jen, but also Tairan Aside and Sue Aside and perhaps more. The Asides are many and varied.
King Daniel
(Both Jen and Sue have even appeared/been referenced as characters in the comic itself!)
Deanatay
Agreed, I still wake up at 4am every morning.
Keulen
One of the good things about being an atheist is you can do whatever you want on Sunday mornings. Unless of course you have to work then or something.
khn0
FiLtHy AthEiSts WoRk On SuNdAyS PrOvE ThEy ArE GrEeDy EvIlS ThAt WoRsHiP mOnEy As MaMmOn AvAtAr AnD tAkE oUr ChRiStIaN jObS.
Because obviously work on sunday is a lifestyle and not economical.
Schpoonman
Jesus fucking Christ, who commissioned Liz and Dina’s mother?
Ana Chronistic
No He didn’t ?
King Daniel
Gravatar checks out
Doctor_Who
Actually, today’s sermon is about the torments of hell, so Walky’s underwear features quite prominently.
Lingo
Wishing you all a belated Happy Dumbing Day, which this year was back on Friday the 14th. TLDR: We celebrate DUMBING DAY on whatever date (month and day) in real life that happens to correspond to the current in-story date of DoA (according to the deductions/assumptions of Walkypedia). I’m sorry I missed it, but it was a very busy day for me and it completely flew under my radar. And it was even a very special Dumbing Day, as it occurred on the same weekday (Friday) as in the actual storyline, which has never happened on a previous Dumbing Day. Oh well. See you next year around January 18….
Lingo
(That link was supposed to go to my comment on that strip. I can never get the links right.)
vlademir1
Hmmm….
Looking at the URL from your link in your post you have an extra set of characters on the end, specifically “%E2%80%9D”, which correspond to the Unicode “right quotation mark” symbol as encoded in UTF-8 text encoding.
I’m guessing that somewhere in your system settings an option to replace flat quotation marks with their “nice” looking variant is set. You may be able to find that and disable it, so just typing in HTML markup code like that works as expected, but you can bypass that behavior while leaving it set if you just copy and paste from the displayed HTML tags displayed below the text entry field on this site.
Lingo
Thank you Vlademir.
Lingo
(Again, being quoted in a tweet feels weird! But appreciated.)
Needfuldoer
How did we finally pin it down to an exact day? Was Ruth’s birthday pre-established?
King Daniel
Ruth’s Walkyverse birthday was established as “…y 13”. If that’s to be presumed as January 13 and assuming it stays the same (as it has for the Walkerton twins, born on April 1 in both ‘verses), then yes.
Needfuldoer
Okay, I think something’s off by one here, either the timeline on Walkypedia or my calculations.
“Hompk!” takes place on Ruth’s birthday, established as January 13th.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/04-hompk/choices/
“Trial and Sarah” is the following Sunday, assuming we didn’t miss any days.
https://imgur.com/z9XO4BP
That would mean Ruth’s birthday was on Wednesday, and this is Sunday the 17th?
Bonus inference: January 13th fell on a Wednesday in 2021, so presumably DoA is following 2021’s calendar now. Good thing their universe exists in a timeline where 2020 lost. Help them all if they’re stuck perpetually living in a world where 2020 won.
Lingo
I think the Wiki timeline might actually be based on my previous deductions from last year. Specifically, they’re based on the previous deductions/assumptions from last semester. If the Wiki is correct in dating the first strip of DOA, a Sunday, on August 29th, then that would place the first day of classes for the Spring semester (Monday) on January 10 (assuming it isn’t, say, a week earlier or a week later). Unfortunately that isn’t compatible with placing Ruth’s birthday on January 13. So either that’s wrong, the deductions/assumptions about the fall semester were wrong, or the timelines for the two semesters simply aren’t compatible.
Needfuldoer
The first semester calculations are correct, “season 1” was definitely timed out around 2010’s calendar. That’s what I based my 66:1 passage of time calculation on way back when.
I think the time skip was long enough to safely obfuscate the difference. It covers almost as much story time as the comic’s first real-time decade, what’s an extra day or two? The second semester / “season two” was always supposed to be a soft reboot anyway, we can realign to the new calendar and handwave away the discrepancy under the MST3K Mantra.
Or maybe the DoA universe had an extra leap day. We’re through the looking glass here, people.
Lingo
I think you’d actually have to remove a day to make it work. Not sure what you mean by a “soft reboot”. As far as I know, it was only a time skip. So unless the Word of God says otherwise, My preference would be to go with a calendar that doesn’t break continuity.
King Daniel
By “soft reboot”, it’s meant that the beginning of Season Two—which started with Book 11–is intended as a good starting point in the comic for new readers, especially those who might not at first be interested in reading through a solid decade’s worth of precursor strips (including a rather janky art style at the beginning, compared to today). Hence us being given introductions to all of the characters all over again, given summarizations of what happened over the preceding ten years of strips, etc. There was even discussion and speculation back then as a result as to whether Season Two would use 2011’s calendar as Season One used 2010’s, or if—as now seems might be the case—it’d use the present year for calculating the weekdays instead.
Needfuldoer
But if the calendar didn’t break with the first semester’s, the timeline doesn’t fit. Either Dumbiverse Ruth’s birthday is the 12th, or the skip obscured the time discrepancy. There’s one too many chapters to follow 2011’s calendar to the letter given the one-chapter-per-day pace and the assumptions we’re working with.
https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/monthly.html?year=2011&month=1&country=1
King Daniel
@Needfuldoer: Yeah, which is why I’m personally assuming that the post-timeskip timeline is following the 2021 calendar. It would be in keeping with the spirit of the “DoA is always set in 20[present year]” rule to update the calendar to be more current after the soft-reboot, instead of continuing to use the calendar from over a decade ago.
Lingo
And I personally don’t see a need to assume that all the characters’ birthdays are the same across the two universes (though a few may be the same), given that DW changed all their relative ages to begin with. Works better in my head than assuming, say, that DOA is set in a universe in which December has only 30 days.
Decidedly Orthogonal
DoA Wiki Article on ‘Dumbing Day’ has been created.
Thank you Lingo, for the content.
Lingo
Thank you, I’m flattered! If I have time, I’ll try to edit that to prove more info and dates. But we should put a big disclaimer on that, because, as discussed above, the dates are based on inferences and assumptions that may be incorrect, or may be incompatible with DW’s own plans for his story. And it’s his story — he can break continuity if he wants.
Alanari
Interesting difference in reaction to “walky in underwear” and “Joe in underwear”
Thag Simmons
Walky has a hoodie on
Doctor_Who
Joe’s like a foot taller, it was much closer to eye height for Joyce.
Reltzik
I think the abs are what do it.
Nono
Doesn’t Walky canonically have abs?
Fay
He did at the start of the school the year, who knows if he still does by now.
Needfuldoer
Everybody does.
Walky probably just looks more toned than he is because he’s somehow scrawny despite his diet. Joe actually works out.
Reltzik
Yes, and they’re sculpted caramel.
Roborat
Well, if anyone would know, it would be Lucy.
Bladeglory
“You want less Walky underwear? Okay that can-”
“I’ll call Ruth.”
“Putting pants on now.”
alongcameaspider
To be fair to Walky she dropped that bomb on him while there was a bunch going on, he was probably more mentally occupied with not getting the comic gig then anything Joyce was saying
Ray Radlein
tbf, there was lots of underwear in her church, it was just generally not seen due to intervening pants
Ray Radlein
“Intervening Pants” is the third-best song on the new Guided by Voices album, btw
Clif
There may of been a lot of underwear at her church, but the point is, it wasn’t Walky’s underwear.
Ed Rhodes
What Cliff said!
Ray Radlein
…as far as YOU know
Needfuldoer
Sounds like the name of an indie rock band that released two EPs before disbanding because someone’s class schedule changed.
BBCC
Walky is very relatable, although I usually wear pyjama pants.
Kyrik Michalowski
I probably spend more time in lounge pants than I should, especially on the weekend.
Doctor_Who
I maintain that basketball shorts are the comfiest bedtime apparel.
The Quirk
I’m a sweatpants guy. No underwear.
LiterallyJustSomeGuy
I’ll maintain that, regardless of bedtime apparel, gym shorts are more appropriate walking-around-the-dorm apparel than exposed underwear.
It is odd to me how many characters are seen walking the halls in their underwear, since that is very different from my personal college experience. (I find it a believable thing for college kids to do; it just wasn’t my experience in my particular dorm hall on my particular campus.)
Bunny
Joyce, Honey, your roots are showing. Leave that Christian judgyness in church where they distill it, bottle it and use it for Molotov cocktails.
Andy
In fairness, I don’t want to see random people’s undies either. Doubly so when they’re people I don’t like all that much anyways.
Reaver
No, no she’s allowed to judge the dude walking around the halls in PUBLIC in his underpants.
Barf Ninjason
Always thought the worst part of being religious (Christian version) was committing to spend all your Sunday mornings churching it up. Doncha ever wanna play basketball or est waffles or jerk off or whatever?!